00:04 heh, just caught an unintentional information leak in my object lookup -- looked up "wand of wishing" and it happily tells me that this kind of object is made of iron. Well, thanks for the info! 00:10 [hdf-us] [slex] Rune (Gra Uni Mal Neu), 24507 points, T:2232, killed by a monster (shadow) 00:17 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of telepathy", on T:57315 00:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Bin Inc Mal Non), 25 points, T:3, killed by a water moccasin 00:30 Wait, doesn't everyone have clubs? 00:31 Yeah, everyone has clubs. 00:32 Oh, lol 00:33 [Demo]: More importantly for the subject at hand, SLASH'EM has *torches* :P 00:37 I like that torch implementation. 00:38 I never noticed that before. 00:39 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:59233 00:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Bin Inc Mal Non), 1434 points, T:1480, killed by a bolt of fire 01:11 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:62249 01:21 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3511410 points, T:62996, killed by a green dragon (with the Amulet) 01:25 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:26 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:29 -!- Elronnd has quit [Quit: stack overflow: feedback loop tried to call itself SHIT too many times] 01:29 -!- Elronnd has joined #hardfought 01:30 -!- Elronnd is now known as earenndil 01:41 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:41 aosdict: sex 01:41 @ You feel unclean when lawful 01:55 . 01:55 LarienTelrunya: Message from @riker at 2018-02-18 21:24 EST: lol herbalist healers start with literally just everything in the healer inventory doubled 01:56 !tell riker yeah, that's how the herbalist race works ;) 01:56 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 02:14 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 03:24 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 03:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 04:00 YASI: instead of items conveying reflection, put beam reflector guns into the game. If a reflectable beam (or arrow/bolt/whatever, but in vanilla those never hit you anyway once your AC reaches a certain value) hits you and you have a beam reflector gun, you can then fire it at the direction the beam is coming from to reflect it back at whoever shot it. This costs a turn. Taking any other action will cause the beam to hit 04:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Bin Inc Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4221 04:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Bin Inc Mal Non) averted death, on T:4290 04:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Bin Inc Mal Non), 5405 points, T:4291, killed by a bolt of fire 04:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Bin Inc Mal Non), 264 points, T:559, killed by an electric shock 04:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Bin Hum Mal Non), 1101 points, T:1849, killed by a gas spore's explosion 04:43 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 05:14 -!- rumflump has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:30 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:36 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 05:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 05:39 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:39 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 05:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 05:43 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:45 -!- rumflump has joined #hardfought 05:51 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:29432 06:00 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:46627 06:48 [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1882 points, T:2256, killed by a gnome's bolt of cold 06:48 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 07:11 [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1426 points, T:1478, killed by a gnomish mage, while asleep 07:19 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:24 [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 880 points, T:1169, killed by a gnomish lord 07:26 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Raisse suddenly disappears!] 07:27 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 08:05 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:34237 08:09 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:05 [hdf-us] [4k] Tangles (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) entered the Minetown temple, on T:2192 09:08 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:11 My pet died a couple of levels back.. how am I going to rob this hardware store? 09:11 You see here a figurine of a kitten (107 zorkmids). 09:11 :) 09:13 I always imagined figurines as action figures. 09:13 <@Tone> But how do you steal the figurine? 09:14 I had enough gold for the figurine (and the magic whistle that was conveniently sitting next to it) 09:15 now you just need a potion of holy water 09:15 <@Tone> If it's like most of the hardware stores I find, I'm sure all that's left to loot is four lock picks 09:15 no... just a fortne cookie :) 09:15 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:60135 09:15 or a fresh newt corpse 09:16 Aren't hardware stores contractually obligated to have at least two completely worthless tools, like mirrors or whatnot? 09:17 Bells. 09:17 Tin whistles. 09:17 Nom nom nom 09:17 Tin openers. 09:17 Happy Chaoflux to You all! Hail Eris! 09:19 <@Tone> oh is that why all the banks are closed? :P 09:25 Banks are closed because it's Monday. 09:26 They post official hours for Monday, but they're never actually open on Monday. If you try to go to the bank on Monday, they're always closed. 09:29 !gift APic a scroll labeled FNORD and 09:29 oh wait this isn't #nethack 09:31 <@riker> . 09:31 @riker: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-02-19 01:56 EST: yeah, that's how the herbalist race works ;) 09:43 aosdict: ktnx anyhow 😸 09:45 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 09:47 [hdf-us] [nh] pavelek (Val Hum Fem Law), 21605 points, T:4327, killed by an invisible minotaur 09:50 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:54 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:60392 09:58 <@Tone> Invisible minotaur that early... yikes 09:59 <@Tone> Although I suspect they zapped it with a wand hoping for teleport 09:59 <@Tone> !lastgame pavelek 09:59 @Tone: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/pavelek/nh343/dumplog/1518812802.nh343.txt 10:00 <@Tone> Yep 10:11 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 10:18 also seemed to be diving: Dlvl 26 in 4327 turns? 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:53034 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "7 blessed wax candles", on T:53036 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed wand of death", on T:53036 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of enchant armor", on T:53037 10:29 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of enchant armor", on T:53045 10:41 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:51 <@Tone> aosdict Yeah they were definitely diving. Somewhat unlucky to land next to a minotaur, but that's the nature of diving, something is bound to get you most attempts 10:52 <@Tone> I actually have some diving stuff I've been wanting to try out for a speed ascension attempt 10:56 <@kritixilithos> by real time or turncount? 10:56 <@riker> generally they go together 10:57 @riker if I were going to do a speed ascension by turns, it would be a very long game in realtime 10:57 <@riker> hm true 10:59 <@riker> so i try grunthack 10:59 <@riker> walk like 1 square into mines 10:59 <@riker> pet is instantly killed and I have to pray away sickness 11:00 [hdf-us] [gh] rikersan (Val Dwa Fem Law), 457 points, T:987, killed by a gnomish werejackal 11:00 <@riker> ^ ok 11:00 <@riker> @g?zombie 11:00 zombie (Z) | Lvl: 4 | Diff: 5 | Spd: 6 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 8 | Attacks: 1d8 claw physical, 2d1 bite drain int | Alignment: -3 | Flags: genocidable, breathless, mindless, undead, stalker 11:00 ah, grunthack. have fun! 11:00 <@riker> already did :p 11:01 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:60458 11:01 also, don't expect your pet to survive past about level 2 in grunthack 11:01 <@riker> I really like gh's object properties/materials though 11:01 <@riker> ah ok that makes me feel better 11:01 <@riker> I'd play the heck out of fiqhack if it added wishable properties and object materials 11:02 <@riker> !tell FIQ YANI for armor (weapon maybe) object property: enchantment value is doubled, so it provides much more/less AC (or damage). applies to positive and negative enchants 11:02 Will do, @riker! 11:03 that sounds... considerably dnethackier than I'd expect fiqhack to go 11:04 <@Tone> @kritixilithos Turn count. I haven't attempted anything real time yet 11:05 <@Tone> Not that I've attempted any legitimate turn count runs either 11:05 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:60479 11:05 <@Tone> I've hit 12k but that was just playing "normal" while actively conserving turns 11:07 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:60498 11:08 <@Tone> And to aosdict's point, I think real time speed runs often involve things that consume a lot of in-game turns but are fast to do in real-time 11:08 <@Tone> Like digging through mazes in gehennom 11:08 <@Tone> I don't have much experience with that though 11:09 I can't imagine trying to play through Gehennom _without_ digging. 11:09 That'd be painful. 11:09 <@Tone> You probably won't see a 60k turn real-time speed ascension though, so yeah they do go together for the most part. 11:10 <@Tone> jonadab Indeed. I usually use wands of digging I collect off of minotaur corpses 11:10 I've been noticing in all of my recent games that if I'm willing not to tear through every single wall in a path from < to >, I don't need to bring a pickaxe; wands of digging are plentiful enough if you use them strategically. 11:10 <@Tone> Although I don't dig straight lines between the stairs 11:11 <@Tone> I generally find 2 or 3 points to cut through to make a mostly direct route between the two 11:11 <@Tone> Yeah, exactly aosdict. I haven't used a pickaxe in gehennom in a while 11:12 @riker too OP 11:12 FIQ: Message from @riker at 2018-02-19 11:02 EST: YANI for armor (weapon maybe) object property: enchantment value is doubled, so it provides much more/less AC (or damage). applies to positive and negative enchants 11:12 <@Tone> but I still carry one because I'm a packrat :P 11:12 fiqhack used to have wishable properties 11:12 it was removed from being too much in the player's favour 11:12 YANI for gehennom: cavern level with 1-3 defensive fortifications consisting of a usually undiggable wall that stretches across the map, and has turrets or guardhouses staffed with demons, and drawbridges. 11:12 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:60543 11:13 (not grunthack-style, that'd be ridiculous, but it had dyna-level wish abilities) 11:15 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:60555 11:20 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Ran Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed master key of thievery", on T:40510 11:21 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:60578 11:21 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the high priest of Odin, on T:60578 11:25 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:60612 11:43 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) averted death, on T:60619 11:44 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:60621 11:48 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:60640 11:52 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:60655 11:56 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:60671 12:04 <@kritixilithos> YANI: an object with the item property of wishing and death, at the end of every turn you get to wish for something, but die immediately after you make the wish. Of course, if you have an amulet of life saving, you get to survive just that death. 12:04 <@riker> lol 12:04 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 12:08 <@kritixilithos> so basically it's whether you value a wish or an "oLS more 12:09 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law), 3636184 points, T:60686, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/E/Eleven/nhdev/dumplog/1518796558.nhdev.txt 12:09 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 184721 points, T:28596, killed by a jabberwock 12:09 well, you can polypile amulets into "oLS, so it seems like a pretty great way to farm wishes 12:10 -!- hothraxxa_ has joined #hardfought 12:11 help ghost 12:12 oops 12:12 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:13 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:14 -!- hothraxxa_ is now known as hothraxxa 12:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hothraxxa] by ChanServ 12:18 <@kritixilithos> you take a turn to wear another "oLS, in which you would already be dead 12:19 <@kritixilithos> maybe it should be player move, rather than one full move, in the case that the player is fast 12:27 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 12:28 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 12:32 anyway, it's truly a YASI 12:32 especially if you need to abuse the speed system to make it work 12:36 If it were an EPI, it wouldn't grant you wishes, only death. 12:40 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:40 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 12:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 12:54 <@kritixilithos> or simply a death wish, followed by, death as you say 12:59 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:00 make it a wand of wishing OR the only death ray in the game 13:08 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 306 points, T:1705, killed by a wand 13:15 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:67993 13:28 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:56 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:71728 14:12 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 460 points, T:1917, killed by a little dog, while praying 14:26 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 14:29 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 14:54 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:75535 14:54 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:75549 14:54 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:75562 14:58 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1240 points, T:4038, killed by a rothe, while frozen by a monster's gaze 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:75667 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law), 20417750 points, T:75683, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DemoBot/nh343/dumplog/1519037576.nh343.txt 15:09 Oh hey, the devteam is responding to (some) issues on github now. 15:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 15:22 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:35 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 1638 points, T:3710, killed by a rock piercer 16:01 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 16:01 hi 16:01 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 16:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hothraxxa] by ChanServ 16:05 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +5 boots of speed", on T:50376 16:09 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:50395 16:10 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "3 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:50401 16:12 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:50407 16:36 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:19 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:23 <@Tone> High roller with those +5 boots 😄 17:42 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 18:05 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:50493 18:09 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 18:13 YASI: wield a tin of monster meat and read enchant weapon to make it turn into spinach 18:45 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 4509 points, T:8554, killed by a soldier ant 18:49 aosdict: That should make it into a rustproof tin, IMO. 18:58 Tins are metal, they can't rust anyway. 18:58 And that would be _confused_ enchant weapon. 18:58 Regular enchant weapon would, of course, just increment spe. 19:00 Ah. 19:00 I see. 19:00 Yeah, I was thinking confused. 19:05 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:27 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 19:54 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 20:11 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 20:46 [hdf-us] [nd] Wolfechu (Cav Hum Mal Law), 4991 points, T:4013, killed by a bolt of lightning 20:54 [hdf-us] [nd] Wolfechu (Kni Hum Fem Law), 628 points, T:1079, killed by a large kobold, while reading a book 21:12 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Arc Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3414 21:29 [hdf-us] [nd] Wolfechu (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2476 21:31 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 21:32 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Arc Hum Fem Law), 3348 points, T:3849, killed by a pony 21:35 -!- Schrubber1 has joined #hardfought 21:37 -!- Schrubber has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:39 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 22:18 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Ran Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:27672 22:26 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 22:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 23:03 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:04 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 23:04 -!- rumflump has quit [Quit: rumflump] 23:24 -!- Schrubber has joined #hardfought 23:26 -!- Schrubber1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:59 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]