00:17 <@Tone> lol 00:29 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 00:49 -!- rumflump has joined #hardfought 00:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Bin Hum Mal Non), 1110 points, T:1947, killed by a boiling hot corpse 00:56 ^ dang 01:05 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:12665 01:08 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "blessed greased rustproof +5 mitre of holiness", on T:33192 01:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Bin Hum Mal Non), 171 points, T:353, killed by a gnome, while praying 01:46 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:56 [hdf-us] [nh4] chinese guy (Luxidream) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 261796 points, T:41372, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack4/dumplog/2018-02-18%2006%3A56%3A41%2C%20chinese%20guy-Sam-Hum-Mal-Law%2C%20ascended.txt 02:20 [hdf-us] [slex] Rune (Fem Dev Fem Cha), 389 points, T:579, killed by a monster (Shelob) 02:23 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 02:34 [hdf-us] [slex] Rune (Pro Dop Mal Neu), 1489 points, T:687, betrayed by a monster (Elif called Elif) 02:57 [hdf-us] [nh4] Valk (Nobbs) (Val Hum Fem Law), 29685 points, T:2081, killed by a wand 03:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Bin Hum Mal Non), 0 points, T:133, killed by a dart 03:02 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Bin Hum Mal Non), 566 points, T:1449, killed by a small mimic 03:20 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:52 aosdict: wtf, male characters get a chance to do extra damage when using the kick command in your YASI? it should be female characters wearing high heels :D was that YANI on purpose to see how I'd react? 04:07 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:11 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:22663 04:11 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:22663 04:11 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:22666 04:11 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "7 blessed wax candles", on T:22674 04:11 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 uncursed scrolls of genocide", on T:22674 04:12 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of telepathy", on T:22680 04:13 [hdf-us] [nh4] Valk (Nobbs) (Val Hum Fem Law), 36557 points, T:3407, killed by a vampire 04:15 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 04:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Bin Hum Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3431 04:23 [hdf-us] [nh4] Valk (Nobbs) (Val Hum Fem Law), 26092 points, T:548, killed by a magic missile 04:27 [hdf-us] [nh4] Valk (Nobbs) (Val Hum Fem Law), 20708 points, T:672, killed by a vrock 04:34 [hdf-us] [nh4] Valk (Nobbs) (Val Hum Fem Law), 18118 points, T:1195, killed by a water moccasin 04:38 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:48 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 04:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 05:29 -!- rumflump has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:48 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Ixoth, on T:34911 05:48 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34913 06:00 -!- rumflump has joined #hardfought 06:58 [hdf-us] [4k] Tangles (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) heard a rumor from The Oracle, on T:23782 07:24 [hdf-us] [4k] Tangles (Wiz Syl Fem Cha), 22470 points, T:24865, killed by a tengu, while praying 07:29 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 07:50 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:38397 07:57 [hdf-us] [4k] Tangles (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) entered the Minetown temple, on T:2457 08:07 hi 08:07 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 08:14 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 08:16 randomly found in the minetown temple (possibly deathdropped by one of the gnomish wizards)... j - the blessed +7 Valerian (weapon in hand) 08:16 That will help with the early game. 08:20 not so much... 08:20 [hdf-us] [4k] Tangles (Wiz Syl Fem Cha), 14106 points, T:3127, killed by a gnome king 08:23 :( 08:24 hows it going other than the game? 08:41 [hdf-us] [4k] Tangles (Wiz Syl Fem Cha), 5712 points, T:1107, killed by a gnome 08:41 heh same old. 08:41 i hear ya 08:42 havent heard in awhile, your oldest get all settled in to the new place? 08:42 spent the whole weekend cleaning up my back yard. 08:42 Yeah they are all here now. It's busy. 08:42 :) 08:42 i will get to start in on my backyard here in about 3 months 08:43 i'll have to partition off some areas where the dogs walk alot, grass doesnt grow there anymore, and it becomes mud 08:44 yeah... mine was quite overgrown. Spent most of the day on the chainsaw. 08:44 and mini-me's swing set will prob have to come down, its not very sturdy anymore (got it used) 08:44 wooo chainsaw 08:44 :) 08:44 slex needs a chainsaw 08:45 oh yeah I just pulled down an old trampoline yesterday. Have a lot of stuff to take to the metal recyclers. 08:46 oh something else to look forward to - all the trees that came down in last falls windstorm need to be cut and the wood stacked 08:46 yeah. 08:46 i'll prob pay to have a lot of that done 08:47 some of those trees were huge i dont have the gear to handle it all 08:47 yeah 08:47 it's a lot of work cutting up trees. 08:47 ugh yes 08:48 esp when your chain gets dull and you suck at sharpening them 08:48 hah yes! 08:48 heheh 08:49 Anyway... bed time. talk to you later. 08:49 see you 08:50 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:19 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:38428 09:21 [hdf-us] [nd] Noah (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 906 points, T:2808, killed by a dwarf 09:26 LarienTelrunya: no, it's male characters *receive* extra damage from kicks. 09:26 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 09:26 And this wasn't a slex idea, so high heels aren't a thing anyway. 09:27 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:38599 09:29 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:38614 09:46 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Lord Surtur, on T:41631 09:47 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:41631 09:47 [hdf-us] [fh] Jacqueline (Noah) (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 18144 points, T:1329, killed by a large mimic 10:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:00 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 10:18 <@kritixilithos> aosdict: according to https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Cancellation#Cancellation_of_monsters, cancellation does have an effect on drain life 10:22 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:43125 10:30 [hdf-us] [fh] Jacqueline (Noah) (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 40131 points, T:2089, killed by a pony, while engraving 10:32 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 502 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:43388 10:33 Then I guess you were just unlucky enough not to get past the vampire lord's monster MR 10:42 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3440 10:44 <[Demo]2> !asc DemoBot 10:44 [Demo]2: DemoBot has ascended 15 times in 301 games (4.98%): nh:15 (4.98%) 10:50 aosdict: ah, I guess I misread it then 11:06 it's vaguely worded, will fix it next time I update the page 11:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:24 <@riker> !role dnh 11:24 @riker: archeologist 11:24 <@riker> !race dnh 11:24 @riker: yuki-onna 11:27 oc_oc1 and oc_oc2 are perhaps the worst named struct variables in the game 11:27 <@riker> what do they do? 11:27 seems like multipurpose variables 11:27 [hdf-us] [nd] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3489 points, T:5530, killed by a bolt of lightning 11:27 oc_oc1 is AC and to-hit bonus, oc_oc2 is MC and spellbook level 11:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 11:33 <[Demo]2> wow 11:35 <@riker> wut 11:40 <@riker> huh, orcrist was a randomly generated artifact 11:40 <@riker> "the gnome swings orcrist at you!" 11:40 <@riker> or rather "a runed broadsword named orcrist" 11:51 [hdf-us] [nd] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 406 points, T:1317, killed by strangulation 11:57 [hdf-us] [nd] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 145 points, T:416, killed by a hobbit, while sleeping 12:16 <[Demo]2> goodbye, goodbye. server running my irc forwarder is going down. May not be back for a while if i break things badly 12:16 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:17 -!- [Demo]2 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:17 <@Tone> Good luck 12:17 <@riker> !tell Chris_ANG apparently black puddings convey piercing resistance (pokedex) 12:17 Will do, @riker! 12:17 <@riker> !lotg Demo 12:17 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, Demo! 12:20 okay this is weird... the is_weptool() macro uses a value called "oc_weptool" but such a thing is never defined. 12:20 Well, never declared in objclass.h, or anywhere else. 12:26 aosdict: That version of the macro is commented out for me. 12:26 Chris_ANG: Message from @riker at 2018-02-18 12:17 EST: apparently black puddings convey piercing resistance (pokedex) 12:27 Oh, I failed to notice that. 12:27 Okay, so it's whether it has a weapon skill, which makes sense. 12:27 @riker: Yup, pokedex bug: it is impossible code-wise to convey the physical damage resistances like that. 12:27 <@riker> yep 12:27 <@riker> sadly 12:28 <@riker> I'd love to be immune to elemental damages and then 1/4 physical 12:28 <@riker> with MR, blessed ?oRes, 1/2 phys damage, you can get pretty close tho 12:28 <@riker> chris: also, I'm trying to figure out how to let Drow have a "darkness' spell instead of light 12:29 <@riker> do you know where spbks are handled in the code? 12:29 <@riker> i.e. casting 12:29 <@riker> I've found the SPE_LIGHT mention in zap.c for the effects 12:29 There's a very *limited* number of spell slots left, so it would be better to make the existing light spell dual-use. 12:30 If memory serves the actual illuminating effect is done via the flood-fill code, which uses a callback. 12:30 I think what riker is trying to do is make the spell of light cast darkness if you are a drow. 12:30 Not add a new spell. 12:30 <@riker> that works then 12:30 <@riker> I wanted to rename it tho 12:30 <@riker> I've got teh easy bit: what asodict said 12:32 Oh, actually even easier: call litroom with FALSE as the first argument. 12:32 I forget what the macro is that checks for darkvision, 12:33 <@riker> already fixed that 12:33 <@riker> I've got a PR for that actually 12:33 Ah, ok. 12:33 <@riker> it's just the handler in zap.c, un-negates the obj->cursed arg 12:33 <@riker> in the call to litroom 12:33 Yup 12:34 Oh, spellbooks, I get the question now >_< 12:34 SPE_LIGHT is "Spellbook of Light" 12:34 <@riker> yep 12:34 <@riker> figured that out :p 12:34 Oh, ok. 12:35 Maybe I don't get the question then? 12:35 The as far as the code is concerned, 12:35 casting a spell is "zapping" a spellbook of that spell. 12:36 <@riker> I wanted to know where the spbks are handled in the Z (what do you want to cast) menu 12:36 The spell-casting-code actually creates and then destroys a dummy spellbook item to achieve that affect. 12:36 <@riker> so I can rename "Light" to "Darkness' if it's a drow casting 12:36 Ah 12:36 Hm 12:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:5182 12:37 dospellmenu 12:37 spell.c 12:37 <@riker> should I even do that tho? 12:37 <@riker> since on second thought 12:37 <@riker> I don't think I can rename it in the inventory 12:38 <@kritixilithos> or rename it only in the spellcast menu 12:38 <@kritixilithos> wait nvm, that doesn't make sense 12:39 <@riker> ^ 12:39 <@riker> it does 12:39 <@riker> that's my original thought 12:39 <@riker> but that would be irritating like that : 12:39 <@riker> so I'll just make "Light" reversed >.> 12:39 Probably would have to replace the spellname() macro with a function of the same name, so that you can more easily do more complex handling. 12:39 Actually, 12:40 Hm 12:40 Well, maybe not. 12:40 This might not be a solution, 12:40 but check out how I handle guns for non-Ana roles. 12:41 <@riker> nah 12:41 kk 12:41 <@riker> I'll just ask you to merge the current PR 12:41 <@riker> :p 12:41 <@riker> also: why the heck does a drow priest start with a lvl 6 clercial spell :p 12:41 <@riker> (create fam) 12:42 Summon spiders? 12:42 <@riker> oh does it do that? 12:42 <@riker> TIL 12:42 (to summon spiders) 12:42 Yup 12:42 <@riker> starts casting 12:42 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 12:42 <@riker> I got a tame razorvine 12:42 <@riker> nice one chris 12:42 <@riker> and then a friendly fog cloud 12:42 lol 12:42 <@riker> what 12:43 Might just be *biases* towards spiders. 12:43 I'll have to check. 12:43 <@riker> then a friednly gray unicorn 12:43 *biased 12:43 <@riker> hey i got a unihorn though 12:43 <@riker> ok so I'm 3/3 no spiders or domestic 12:43 what's the right repo again? not "dnethack", but like "dvanilla" or something? 12:43 <@riker> and then a friendly spider 12:43 <@riker> DNAO 12:44 <@riker> great one chris 12:44 <@riker> now I've got a tame razorvine 12:44 Yes, it's a 1/3rd bias, not 100% 12:44 <@riker> who multiples and produces hostile ones 12:44 <@riker> >.> 12:44 <@riker> and I don't want to take teh taming rap 12:45 @riker of course, now people will start clamoring for the ability to cast darkness as non-drow. 12:45 Also that's the proper functioning of the spell. Though it should probably not create immobile monsters for you. 12:45 <@riker> 7 casts, 1 spider 12:45 <@riker> wasn't even tame 12:46 <@riker> chris yo rng is borked 12:46 <@riker> finally 12:46 <@riker> tame one 12:46 <@riker> nvm he's friendly again 12:46 7 is too small a sample size from which to draw conclusions :P 12:46 <@riker> yeah it shuldn't create sessile things 12:46 <@riker> 9 now and still 2 spidesr 12:46 <@riker> whatever 12:46 <@riker> anyway larger issue: razorvine is higher mlvl than the spiders 12:46 <@riker> so I can't get anything to stay 'tame' 12:47 <@riker> >_> 12:48 <@kritixilithos> if the spellbook of light casts darkness for drows, what about wands of light? 12:49 <@kritixilithos> shouldn't those do too? 12:49 Well, in that case, you could argue it's a magic item and its magic isn't different even if different races use it. 12:49 sounds more like a "could" than a "should" 12:49 <@riker> there are already darkness wands 12:50 <@riker> thats why :p 12:50 whereas casting darkness is probably just saying one different magic word than light 12:50 Huh. Is there a macro for checking if a monster is sessile? 12:50 <@riker> anyway finally got create fam to 0% fail and got another spider 12:50 <@riker> no clue 12:51 There's one for the stationary flag, but that was added by SLASH'EM. 12:51 if its speed equals zero 12:51 looks funky :P 12:52 Also, I think this explains why rogues can backstab mold. 12:52 aosdict: ABRA KA DABRA NAH 12:53 or HACKEM LESSE 12:53 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 12:53 DNORF 12:54 dnorfhack has a nice ring to it 12:54 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:50974 12:54 dnorf fortress 12:55 ugh, C macros 12:55 C preprocessor macros, technically. 12:55 20 minutes of debugging to figure out all my woes came from MACRO (foo) rather than MACRO(foo) 12:55 Wait, really? Wow. 12:55 I had no idea whitespace would matter there. 12:56 I would _think_ any given macro would either be defined as taking arguments, or not. 12:56 I expect now that I know there's a difference, the former will simply expand MACRO to a literal (foo) 12:57 Please tell me you can't have two different macros, one that's MACRO without arguments and another one that's MACRO(foo) with an argument, and they do different things. 12:57 <@riker> similar funcs are in teh source 12:58 <@riker> rndcurse() and curse(foo) iirc 12:58 Also, I'm miffed that there's no is_weptool equivalent for object classes. The existing one can only be called on an actual object. 12:58 <@riker> !tell LarienTelrunya if you cast create famaliar while hallu, you should summon a tame gang member, who just says "wassup fam" 12:58 Will do, @riker! 12:59 @riker at least we don't have function overloading. 12:59 riker: heh, I can make it so that whatever it summons will say that ;) 12:59 LarienTelrunya: Message from @riker at 2018-02-18 12:58 EST: if you cast create famaliar while hallu, you should summon a tame gang member, who just says "wassup fam" 12:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 29889 points, T:8914, killed by a bolt of cold 12:59 <@riker> well fuck 12:59 <@riker> bounced off the wall and oneshot me I think 13:00 <@riker> !lastgame rikerw 13:00 @riker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rikerw/dnethack/dumplog/1518973273.dnh.txt 13:00 yo riker, do you want to give slex 2.1.7 a spin? *bundlebundlebundle* 13:00 <@riker> already did 13:00 <@riker> gladiator 13:00 Let me guess: you died. 13:00 <@riker> !lastgame rikersan slex 13:00 @riker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rikersan/slex/dumplog/1518884671.slex.txt 13:00 <@riker> yes 13:01 <@riker> how did you know 13:01 <@riker> I could've ascended for all you know :p 13:01 also, just for clarification, does writing riker ping you or do I have to write @riker? 13:01 I was guessing. 13:01 <@riker> riker doesn't ping me 13:02 <@riker> I will read it though 13:02 <@riker> when I get back to discord I search "riker" in the backscroll 13:02 <@kritixilithos> I wonder if wishing for an object named "@Someone" would ping that person in discord (via beholder) 13:02 <@riker> lol 13:02 <@riker> only one way to find out 13:03 @riker you can't set a "hilight" on your name or something? 13:03 <@kritixilithos> (whoops accidental ping) 13:03 So it automatically shows you messages that mention you? 13:03 [hdf-us] [fh] . (rikerw) (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 partly eaten historic greased silver saber named @kritixilithos", on T:1 13:03 <@riker> jonadab: not in discord 13:03 I mean, IRC users take this for granted. 13:03 <@riker> that's what pings are for 13:03 <@riker> it doesn't autoshow those no 13:03 Yes, but sometimes you also want to watch for other words besides your nick. 13:03 <@riker> you can't :p 13:03 e.g., I get hilighted any time Fourk is mentioned. 13:03 <@riker> you can search when you get back tho 13:04 <@riker> I generally do that for "riker", "chris", and "dnh" 13:04 <@kritixilithos> riker: ಠ_ಠ, how did you get a wish on your first turn anyways? 13:04 <@riker> it does tell me if my msgs have been read tho 13:04 that sounds... tedious. 13:04 <@riker> kritixi: explore mode :p 13:04 * LarienTelrunya would like to get highlighted when slex is mentioned, obviously 13:04 Yes, but I'd want the hilight, because that turns the channel pink instead of white, even if I'm online, at the time, plus yes, requires less effort. 13:04 Fire up the Discord bug tracker and file an RFE. 13:04 I get highlighted whenever someone talks about Black Jesus, or muffins 13:04 LarienTelrunya: /hilight slex 13:04 jonadab: I know you're probably tired of me asking, but I'd love a grepped list of your logged channels for "slex", "LarienTelrunya" and "Amy" as keywords ;) 13:04 [hdf-us] [fh] . (rikerw) (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 greased silver dragon scale mail named jonadab is a discord hater", on T:2 13:05 I should probably set up an xnethack hilight, but jonadab is more or less the only person who mentions it anyway 13:05 [hdf-us] [fh] . (rikerw) (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:2 13:05 jonadab: [19:05] == HILIGHT Unknown command 13:05 LarienTelrunya: /hilight Amy 13:05 Wat? 13:05 Ok, that is terrible, get a real IRC client. 13:05 [hdf-us] [fh] . (rikerw) (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 greased scroll of genocide named slex is cool down with nh4 & co.", on T:3 13:05 Or a znc account, or something. 13:06 riker: wtf, are you wizmoding or exploremoding on the server or something? 13:06 i also get highlighted if my ex logs in to any channels i'm in, or speaks 13:06 just in case 13:06 [hdf-us] [fh] . (rikerw) (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 greased cloak of magic resistance named seriously though discord isn't that bad", on T:4 13:07 <@riker> larien; explodemode fiqhack 13:07 [hdf-us] [fh] . (rikerw) (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 greased speed boots named goodbye cruel world", on T:5 13:07 <@kritixilithos> YANI: ban riker from discord, let him only communicate via wishes 13:07 * aosdict wants to try explodemode fiqhack 13:07 explode mode :D 13:07 aww, Demo is gone, he'd probably love an explode mode 13:07 "You are in non-scoring explode mode. It explodes!" 13:08 [hdf-us] [fh] . (rikerw) (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed scroll of genocide named if this doesn't show a death msg", on T:136 13:08 <@riker> whoops I accidentally hit "no" to die so whatever" 13:08 [hdf-us] [fh] . (rikerw) (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 3588 points, T:138, quit, in explore mode 13:11 I wonder if anyone's done analysis to see what your odds are of starting the game in a room with some interesting piece of furniture, (altar, sink, or... I think that's it.) 13:11 <@riker> fountain, throne 13:11 <@riker> throne would be 0% but hey tha't sa number 13:11 how did paxed do the analysis of gold generated? 13:12 Some sort of windowport that didn't actually play the game and just dumped a bunch of info? 13:18 Probably related to his fuzzer. 13:18 Though I have tracking-of-generated-gold in Fourk xlogfile now. 13:19 Yeah, throne can't occur in same room as stairs, I believe. 13:19 Not sure altar can either. 13:19 You can definitely get altars in the starting room. 13:19 Oh, can you? Ok. 13:19 Wasn't sure about altar.s 13:21 Ugh, my name_to_otyp function isn't matching "ring of increase accuracy" but it will match "increase accuracy". 13:23 Makes sense. 13:23 That's what its name is in objects.c 13:23 The "ring of" you usually get is courtesy of some function in objnam.c 13:23 Similarly, the RIN_ prefix on the object constant is courtesy of makedefs. 13:24 Mhm. 13:24 I was attempting to not have to figure out 40% of readobjnam to extract painfully 13:26 Hmm, readobjnam does parse out the "foo of" by the time it gets to rnd_otyp_by_namedesc though. 14:10 [hdf-us] [nd] ellipsis (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 31750 points, T:16159, killed by an Angel of Issek 14:10 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 14:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 14:24 [hdf-us] [nd] cobalt9 (Val Hum Fem Law), 352 points, T:1316, killed by a kitten 14:49 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 14:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 143 points, T:651, killed by a gnome 14:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 32 points, T:56, killed by shredding of the soul 15:00 Good old Beholder. ☺ 15:00 Chris_ANG: what is a shredding of the soul? Binder-specific? 15:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 91 points, T:141, killed by a sewer rat 15:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 4 points, T:136, killed by a kobold 15:02 aosdict: Sorta. Dying from the level drain inflicted by breaking a spirit taboo. 15:02 So anyone can get it, since anyone can learn spirit seals, but since they only drain 1* level, 15:03 you need to get the seals early in the game for it to be likely. 15:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 67 points, T:125, killed by a newt 15:03 <@luxidream> don't think I saw that one in last year's junethack 15:03 1*: Messing up with Void Chime, Jack, and Numina can drain like 10. 15:04 <@luxidream> dying with jack drains 10? 15:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 4 points, T:51, killed by a jackal 15:04 <@luxidream> what 15:04 No, it drains 1. 15:05 <@luxidream> oh, is that the penalty for entering planes with jack? 15:05 Also only 1. 15:05 Void Chime prevents a binding from breaking, but doesn't protect vs the level drain. 15:05 And activating it binds any spirits in your Pen to you for 5 turns. 15:06 And Numina's taboo is you being less than level 30. 15:06 So the common way to mess up is to carry Jack into gehennom on the Pen (because you were using it as a lightsource), 15:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 100 points, T:349, killed by a goblin 15:07 activate Void Chime for whatever reason (perhaps to do the invocation), 15:07 and bang, now Jack and Numina are both draining 1 level per turn for the duration of the Chime. 15:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 0 points, T:111, killed by a newt 15:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 232 points, T:556, killed by Ms. Walbrzych, the shopkeeper 15:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 0 points, T:26, killed by a jackal 15:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Vam Mal Non), 8 points, T:14, killed by a sewer rat 15:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 0 points, T:11, killed by a jackal 15:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 206 points, T:229, killed by a system shock 15:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 58 points, T:185, killed by a newt 15:21 things i recognize from the last 20 minutes: dying, level drain, early in the game 15:21 junethack, gehennom, invocation 15:21 and level 30 15:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 7 points, T:41, killed by a fox 15:24 Then you should play dNethack. I offer exciting new frontiers in dying due to level drain early in the game ;) 15:24 heh 15:24 i'm fascinated by the discussions. it's all foreign to me 15:25 TROPHY GET!!! holy shit was that quest a motherfucker 15:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 144 points, T:309, killed by a jackal 15:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 162 points, T:85, killed by a goblin 15:28 and K2 is the only one of my pets who survived the carnage 15:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 211 points, T:214, killed by a jackal 15:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 4 points, T:38, killed by a fox 15:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 0 points, T:24, killed by a sewer rat 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh4] WTF BOOM (Luxidream) (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 273728 points, T:43186, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack4/dumplog/2018-02-18%2020%3A38%3A15%2C%20WTF%20BOOM-Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha%2C%20ascended.txt 15:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 113 points, T:257, killed by a carnivorous bag 15:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 24 points, T:73, killed by a goblin 15:50 [hdf-us] [slex] Wolfen (Fai Cur Mal Cha), 0 points, T:36, killed by a burning wagon 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh4] Rince Win (Luxidream) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 36483 points, T:2202, killed by a dwarf lord 15:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 24 points, T:39, killed by a newt 15:53 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Wolfen (Bin Elf Mal Non), 28 points, T:293, killed by a jackal 15:57 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Ran Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed scrolls of charging", on T:39462 16:08 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:12 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:53865 16:12 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:53866 16:15 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 16:18 [hdf-us] [nd] HotSauce (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 386 points, T:810, killed by an Angel of Issek 16:23 <[Demo]> ok so server back up partially doing backups bad things happened 16:56 [hdf-us] [nd] dotdotdot (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 17:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:13 <@riker> this poor guy wolfen 17:13 <@riker> he keeps trying binders and then slex 17:13 <@riker> and ofc he keeps dying 17:13 <@riker> larien: you here? 17:14 <@riker> also, I see the new slex name: > Sadistic Levels of Endless X-Citement 17:14 <@Tone> heh 17:14 <@Tone> not bad 😄 17:18 [hdf-us] [nd] dotdotdot (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 1652 points, T:2501, quit 17:19 Ideally, the "endless" would come first. 17:19 <@riker> anybody know how slex sets hybrids in the rc? 17:22 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 17:32 [hdf-us] [slex] rikerw (Sco Ang Mal Cha) killed Nightshade, Farmer Maggot's cousin, on T:983 17:34 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:56047 17:35 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:56048 17:35 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:56052 17:48 [hdf-us] [slex] rikerw (Sco Ang Mal Cha), 17234 points, T:2276, killed by a monster (cave error) 17:48 !lastgame 17:48 rikersan: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rikerw/slex/dumplog/1518992674.slex.txt 17:48 rikersan: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/kritixilithos/nhdev/dumplog/1518594897.nhdev.txt 17:48 sounds right 17:49 3d16 monster on dlvl5 17:51 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:20 [hdf-us] [nd] ellipsis (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 918 points, T:2734, killed by a giant ant 18:20 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 18:24 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:56248 18:48 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:57471 18:48 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:57471 18:51 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:57823 18:55 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:58427 18:59 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 19:01 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:59117 19:03 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 19:23 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 19:37 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:39133 19:40 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:59875 19:41 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:59876 20:40 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:40693 20:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Bin Hum Mal Non) completed Sokoban, on T:14843 20:46 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 21:07 [hdf-us] [slex] rikerw (Che Vee Mal Cha), 4181 points, T:917, quit 21:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Bin Hum Mal Non), 14597 points, T:16060, killed by a knife 21:09 [hdf-us] [slex] rikerw (Che Vee Mal Cha), 32 points, T:13, killed by an orcish arrow 21:12 -!- Mandevil has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:18 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 21:18 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:31992 21:18 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:31994 21:19 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:31995 21:19 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:31997 21:19 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of remove curse", on T:32004 21:19 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Ran Gno Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:22301 21:21 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:21 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 21:24 <@riker> !tell LarienTelrunya lol herbalist healers start with literally just everything in the healer inventory doubled 21:24 Will do, @riker! 21:27 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:35 -!- Schrubber has joined #hardfought 21:37 -!- Schrubber1 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:38 YANI: Torches! dip a club into a potion of oil for a lightsource that can double as a melee weapon that deals fire damage. 21:39 (Especially handy in dnh, where some monsters resist weapon damage. Not sure what % of said monsters ALSO resist fire damage) 21:49 [hdf-us] [slex] rikerw (Fox Add Mal Cha), 2242 points, T:1671, quit 21:53 Hmm, it'd be best if the game had pitch that you could apply to a club. 21:54 Would it morph the club into a torch (i.e. torch is its own base item)? 21:55 I'm thinking torches would also work nicely with my sconce idea. 22:04 <[Demo]> uh hmm 22:11 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:42406 22:13 Yeah, I'd say it would be its own base item. 22:13 A weapon tool with the same base stats as a club. 22:14 And eventually it burns out and can't be relit? 22:14 Can the player accidentally set themselves on fire? 22:15 Pitch is more realistic, but using a potion of oil instead would add a new use for an existing item, rather than a new item that would then need interactions with a bunch of other stuff. 22:15 I'd say it would probably burn out like a candle. 22:16 I don't think any other light source can set the player on fire, so probably not? 22:16 Though you could make them dangerous to fall down stairs holding. 22:39 <[Demo]> slashem has clubs 22:49 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 22:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 22:57 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 uncursed scrolls of genocide", on T:50312 22:57 -!- Mandevil has joined #hardfought 22:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Mandevil] by ChanServ 23:07 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:13 Ugh. There is no good way to properly show the base damage of all weapons, given that certain ones have special cases in dmgval. 23:32 Blech. 55 lines spent on putting it in switch statements that are now obsoleted if dmgval ever changes. I feel unclean. 23:33 (YANI: "You feel unclean" is a real message related to religion somehow)