00:09 !tell rikersan Female drow do get khakkharas to start. Males don't, though. 00:09 Chris_ANG: Message from @riker at 2018-02-15 11:01 EST: make up your mind. am I 'prying open the door'? or am I "bashing down the door"? am I "the door breaks open"? am I the fact that the watch and the shk don't mind the broken door? :D 00:09 Chris_ANG: Message from @riker at 2018-02-15 22:41 EST: suggestions for drow: 1. quarterstaff is replaced with silver khak in starting inv? might be too OP though, idk. 00:09 Chris_ANG: Message from @riker at 2018-02-15 22:41 EST: 2. spell of light is 'darkness', same rules but makes dark not light. maybe scroll too but at least spell. if not this, then def replace in starting inventories for wiz/priest 00:09 Will do, Chris_ANG! 00:09 Oh, hm. 00:09 Didn't know the door thing. 00:13 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 00:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 00:19 !tell rikersan Didn't know about the door thing. Messaging is a bit odd, but it is intended to destroy the door. There is a call to add_damage, but I confirmed that the shks don't get mad :( 00:19 Will do, Chris_ANG! 01:00 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:06 -!- raisse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:06 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 01:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v theRaisse] by ChanServ 01:07 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 01:34 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 01:38 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:47 !tell K2 pushed a fix to slex's currently bugged room-joining code; can you update the server? :) 01:47 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 01:51 [hdf-us] [slex] StatueSurfer (Ana Hum Fem Law), 1043 points, T:1085, killed by a monster (pikabud) 01:56 "Don't be ridiculous! Your current form cannot realistically wield a weapon!" -> is currently wielding a weapon 01:56 yeah, even if your race normally can't wield weapons, the ones you start with may still start out wielded 02:06 difficulty = 1965060965 02:06 seems slightly excessive... 02:07 well the things you turn into as a missingno are created by the game reading random bits as monster data; since the variable field for the difficulty is no longer a signed integer, it can reach very high values now 02:08 that's also the reason they often have undefined attacks and other such silliness; the missingno race is really meant as a joke mode and not for seriously playing the game ;) 02:13 [hdf-us] [slex] StatueSurfer (Mar Mis Mal Law), 2652 points, T:2039, killed by a monster (gnome academic) 02:13 awwwwwwww... I hoped the buttsally would get the last hit 02:15 maybe i should try playing as a bleeder next time... 02:15 why not? they're harder than hard but have access to a lot of skills 02:15 how exactly does the bleedout damage work 02:16 the wiki says that by the time of the quest it's excessively high, but doesn't exactly specify why 02:16 or after the quest rather 02:16 is that because of your level, the turn count, or the monsters on said quest 02:16 there are monsters on the quest whose attacks will permanently increase the bleedout damage if they hit you, and the nemesis also has such an attack 02:17 that's it? 02:17 so if you can kill everything before it can hit you, you'll probably be fine 02:17 simple solution: don't get hit by those monsters 02:17 yeah 02:18 other than that, there's a 1 in 7500 chance per turn that the bleedout damage goes up by one by itself 02:18 uh-huh 02:18 so it goes up by 1 every 3750 turns on average 02:18 or something 02:18 yeah that was wrong 02:19 and a 1 in 500 chance to take rnz(bleedout) damage, because of course that is controlled by rnz :D 02:19 i was thinking of something else 02:19 i don't know what's so special about the vaunted rnz 02:19 eh, I'd say just play a bleeder and see how far you can get :) the main problem is that they take double damage, which means their HP is really half of what it says 02:20 FIQ: StatueSurfer asks what's so special about the vaunted rnz? 02:20 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 02:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 02:22 !tell jonadab your EPI about Lou Gehrig's disease is because it causes "AMYotrophic Lateral Sclerosis", right? :P 02:22 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 02:22 what 02:23 i don't even know where to start asking about that 02:28 [hdf-us] [slex] StatueSurfer (Ble Hum Mal Law), 8 points, T:53, killed by bleeding out 02:30 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:34 [hdf-us] [slex] StatueSurfer (Ble Hum Mal Law), 124 points, T:688, killed by a monster (jumping jellyfish) 02:34 ...why'd you not use the phase door technique? 02:35 !lastgame 02:35 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/StatueSurfer/slex/dumplog/1518766103.slex.txt 02:35 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AmyBSOD/slex/dumplog/1518723877.slex.txt 02:35 oh i forgot about that 02:35 sometimes that ice box comes filled with corpses, in which case it's probably best to drop it 02:36 the twen corpse increases max HP if eaten, which is particularly useful as a bleeder 02:39 um why do i keep seeing random messages pop up 02:39 maybe there was a loudspeaker on the level 02:39 those will periodically broadcast fake messages to confuse the player :D 02:40 the last one was pretty long too 02:40 yeah, thanks to the magic of an extended buffer size, those messages can theoretically be up to, I think 2000 characters in length? 02:40 LarienTelrunya: StatueSurfer: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Rnz 02:41 oh i see 02:41 the most used random number function in slex 02:41 and the most random one in general :) 02:43 [hdf-us] [slex] StatueSurfer (Ble Hum Mal Law), 184 points, T:559, killed by a monster (gnome zombie) 03:32 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:47 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:50 -!- Crawldragon has joined #hardfought 04:18 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 04:40 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:52 K2: yeah, that would be cool. go for it 04:53 -!- Angani has joined #hardfought 04:55 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:56 -!- Angani has quit [Client Quit] 05:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Bin Hum Mal Non), 73 points, T:603, killed by a goblin 05:41 [hdf-us] [nh] pavelek (Val Hum Fem Law), 477 points, T:966, killed by a gnome lord 05:50 [hdf-us] [nh] pavelek (Val Hum Fem Law), 496 points, T:628, killed by a dwarf 06:00 jonadab: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-02-16 02:22 EST: your EPI about Lou Gehrig's disease is because it causes "AMYotrophic Lateral Sclerosis", right? :P 06:00 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4150 06:11 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) averted death, on T:10602 06:19 -!- Crawldragon has quit [Quit: Derezzed] 06:33 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:6774 06:39 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:684 06:39 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:685 06:39 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 shield of reflection", on T:698 06:39 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:699 06:39 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 speed boots", on T:701 06:39 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 uncursed scrolls of genocide", on T:746 06:59 !whereis HDFBot 06:59 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-02-16 01:47 EST: pushed a fix to slex's currently bugged room-joining code; can you update the server? :) 06:59 K2: [hdf-us] HDFBot [nh]: (Sam Hum Fem Law) T:15978 The Dungeons of Doom level: 22 07:02 [hdf-us] [nd] munterplant (Val Hum Fem Law) averted death, on T:748 07:03 Slash'EM Extended updated (us and eu) 07:03 [hdf-us] [nd] munterplant (Val Hum Fem Law), 285 points, T:762, killed by a water demon 07:03 thanks K2! 07:04 \o/ 07:04 the scoreboard tracks 2.1.7 now also 07:04 just us server tho 07:04 ah, cool! 07:04 !players 07:04 K2: [hdf-us] arnibald [gh] HDFBot [nh] pavelek [nh] DemoBot [nh] 07:04 K2: [hdf-eu] No current players 07:05 maybe I'll play again later, but I'm not sure what character to try this time, maybe an evilvariant form changer that will certainly die early 07:06 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 07:19 HDFBot is pudding farming hah 07:42 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 07:46 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "7 blessed wax candles", on T:78552 07:46 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of telepathy", on T:78552 07:46 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 shield of reflection", on T:78557 07:46 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed wand of death", on T:78561 07:46 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:78561 07:47 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed wand of death", on T:78658 08:04 LarienTelrunya: as a variant developer, you should also be in ##nethack-variants 08:06 bhaak: I'll think about it; I'm about to leave in a few minutes anyway, but maybe later 08:07 * LarienTelrunya is wondering how often (or rarely) slex gets mentioned in channels she isn't in 08:08 bhaak did you catch my message regarding hdf unnethack game messages going to #unnethack ? 08:09 anyway, time for me to leave, see you later guys :) 08:09 cya 08:09 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:09 yes, but you obviously didn't see my reply :) 08:09 K2: yeah, that would be cool. go for it 08:10 no i must not have 08:10 my bad :) 08:10 so how it works on our end - beholder can send variant-specific livelog messages to another bot via a private message 08:11 then its up to that bot what to do with those messages 08:11 can demogorgon relay pm's? 08:12 <[Demo]2> dammit lol 08:12 AFAIK it can't 08:13 ok 08:13 Elronnd's ro-bot in #em.slashem.me can relay pm's - dunno how similar his bot is to demogorgon 08:15 demogorgon is a custom implementation in clojure IIRC 08:16 clojure 08:16 oh my 08:16 maybe its related to bothack :P 08:18 captains of opposing factions, on one side, the player, on the other side, the most powerful demon prince 08:18 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:92609 08:19 but anyways - if demogorgon ever gets the ability to relay pm's, we can easily send hdf (us and eu) unnethack livelogs its way 08:22 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) averted death, on T:93949 08:22 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) averted death, on T:93986 08:22 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) averted death, on T:94007 08:22 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law), 9330288 points, T:94022, killed by a jabberwock 08:22 omh HDFbot is getting owned by demo, yeeno and orcus. 08:22 Tangles: Message from hothraxxa at 2018-02-12 19:36 EST: beholder doesn't recognize velkommen as a greeting. sad! 08:23 oh the jabberwock finished it. 08:23 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:24 wow 08:25 !lastgame HDFBot 08:25 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/H/HDFBot/nh343/dumplog/1518781117.nh343.txt 08:26 crazy 08:26 hiya Tangles 08:27 [hdf-us] [nh] pavelek (Val Hum Fem Law), 38737 points, T:9520, killed by a troll, while helpless 08:27 Hi K2 08:29 <@kritixilithos> I reached level 14 and spoke with my quest leader, she told me I'm ready, how do I proceed to the next level? 08:30 there's a downstairs nearby on that level 08:30 you'll now be able to go down them 08:31 <@kritixilithos> I'll try searching outside the tower then 08:31 @kritixilithos and milestone! nice progress 08:31 !players 08:31 K2: [hdf-us] HDFBot [nh] DemoBot [nh] jonadab [4k] Tangles [4k] 08:31 K2: [hdf-eu] kritixilithos [nd] 08:31 !whereis kritixilithos 08:31 K2: [hdf-us] kritixilithos is not currently playing on this server. 08:31 K2: [hdf-eu] kritixilithos [nd]: No details available 08:31 ah right dev doesnt have whereis 08:31 @kritixilithos whats your role? 08:32 <@kritixilithos> thanks :) 08:32 <@kritixilithos> I'm a wizard 08:32 the downstairs is in a room in the tower/keep 08:32 its nearby 08:33 <@kritixilithos> oh inside, I guess I'll try putting on the ring of searching then 08:34 its in the room top right 08:34 adjacent to the quest leaders room 08:34 search for a hidden door, stairs are in a closet 08:34 err small room 08:35 <@kritixilithos> ah, hidden room, thanks found it :D 08:35 :) 08:36 * aosdict still doesn't understand why someone decided to imply the entire quest takes place in the basement of the Lonely Tower 08:36 heh 08:42 so I've kinda been interested in a proper job for a while, but haven't looked into it too much (since I'm still in uni) 08:43 the last few days, I got not one, but two, job offers (via my linkedin profile) 08:43 huh 08:44 nice :) 08:44 doing what? 08:47 one offered a developer job working in ruby on rails and angularJS, coffeescript 08:47 didnt know you were a ruby on rails guy 08:48 one offered one of 2 positions -- web frontend (html/js -- which I'm not interested in) and backend (MySQL/node) 08:48 K2: I have messed with Ruby but it was years ago, I don't have it mentioned as something I have experience with 08:49 Have done some tinkering with javascript on the side, though 08:51 anyway I replied to the first one and I think I'll go on a job interview 08:51 which will probably go to shit because I have zero experience with that, but meh 08:51 worth a try, and sometime has to be the first 08:51 (that = interviewing, not the work itself) 08:51 if you go into an interview thinking you'll do badly, you will 08:51 yeah 08:52 so dont think you'll do badly 08:52 I feel that too 08:52 so I'll try to not think of it 08:52 just be up front and honest, let the interviewer know its your first one 08:52 mhm 08:53 anyway, I'm not sure what will come out of this 08:53 but eh, worth a try to follow up on IMO 08:53 if anything you gain experience 08:54 yeah 08:54 even if I don't end up with a job, even going to an interview would be a good experience for the future 08:55 helps having gone through it before, etc 09:13 \o/ 09:14 <@kritixilithos> I didn't expect it to be this easy :P 09:14 <@kritixilithos> a couple of magic missiles and he was done 09:15 he really is a pushover 09:15 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 09:20 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:21 [hdf-us] [4k] Tangles (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) entered the Rogue tribute level, on T:17771 09:36 [hdf-us] [4k] Jonadab (jonadab) (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Sokoban zoo, on T:4279 09:43 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:00 [hdf-us] [nh] pavelek (Val Hum Fem Law), 7921 points, T:2169, poisoned by an orcish arrow 10:03 YASI: doors can be polymorphed by zapping them with the wand. 10:04 Not sure what they should turn into, though. 10:04 maybe fall under tool category 10:04 * K2 is on hold with VMware 10:05 ugh, is there any way to protect yourself against being turned to stone if your ridden steed suddenly polymorphs into something that petrifies on touch? because that just happened to me 10:06 be an acidic monster? 10:06 well I was thinking wearing armor or something, i.e. cover the body part that touches the monster 10:06 there are no pants in nethack 10:08 huh, according to mon.c I would have had to pass a rnl(3) check to avoid being petrified, which I didn't do, and therefore my status was changed to statue 10:14 EPI: the floor under your feet can randomly polymorph into cockatrice skin. If you aren't wearing boots, you turn to stone. 10:16 oh by the way jonadab, you were the one who suggested a "sane" polymorpher role, right? one who starts with poly control and gets polymorphitis at XL5? 10:16 hah 10:16 vorpal jabberwock please 10:16 because I'm playing it right now :) 10:16 or arch lich 10:26 jonadab has suggested a druid role like that, yes. 10:27 mmm druids 10:27 well the slex implementation of it is underwhelming so far :( 10:27 when i used to play everquest online (the very first one back in the late 90's) i played a druid and would always change into a tree 10:27 in the weirdest places 10:28 <@luxidream> poly control role = dsm at level 5 10:29 jonadab: if you make a druid, it has to have the ability to change into a tree 10:29 which monsters should ignore 10:29 <@luxidream> doesn’t sound balanced...? 10:29 or could subsequently grab an axe and chop down said tree 10:30 or burn it 10:30 <@luxidream> you can’t burn trees in NH 10:30 <@luxidream> wands of fire bounce right off 10:30 huh 10:30 <@luxidream> Melee with fire brand does nothing 10:31 jonadab: is it worth sticking an oots reference into nethack wherein dwarves don't go near trees if they can help it? 10:31 "Palim-Palim, AmyBSOD! Welcome again to Mured-oog's hardware store!" <--- bhaak: that was your idea, which I implemented :) 10:33 o_O 10:33 I don't remember :-) 10:33 while halucinating? 10:33 no, while playing in evilvariant mode 10:34 ah finally I managed to polymorph successfully... and promptly shredded my plate mail and asbestos cloak :( 10:48 I mean, do you *want* to wear an asbestos cloak? 10:50 <@riker> . 10:50 <@riker> !tell Chris_ANG another reminder: tone down starting tripe for hlf knights, they're burdened as soon as they try to ride. 10:50 Will do, @riker! 10:50 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:51 <@riker> cuz then you die after riding downstairs 10:54 <@riker> !tell Chris_ANG in addition, can pseudodragons (at least smaller sizes) get the "eats meaty treats" like cats and dogs? 10:54 Will do, @riker! 10:56 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 11:17 aosdict: sure :) 11:37 [hdf-us] [nh] pavelek (Val Hum Fem Law), 19241 points, T:4724, killed by a giant zombie 11:38 LarienTelrunya: Actually, the druid role suggestion originally came from ais523. 11:39 really? I thought it was your idea 11:39 I think it's a good role idea, though. 11:39 The idea is several years old, at laast. 11:39 *least 11:39 well I'm currently polymorphed into a "Restoring Hanger Hosteling", which is one of your script-generated monsters :D 11:40 ho boy, time to tackle 9 days of yanis 11:41 <@riker> lol 11:41 <@riker> somebody eli5 the druid role? 11:42 <@Tone> In D&D druids are a class that's really in touch with nature and have a strong affinity for animals/wildlife and could even transform into beasts 11:43 <@riker> ya 11:43 <@riker> I'm playing a d&d druid right now :p 11:43 <@Tone> Actually I don't know if the transformation part was in D&D 11:43 <@riker> it is 11:43 <@riker> wild shape 11:43 <@Tone> Cool, it's been a while since I've played 11:43 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:4304 11:44 <@riker> what would the nethack role me? 11:44 <@riker> *be 11:44 <@Tone> I played a druid for the one long-running D&D campaign I played 11:44 <@riker> just a "turn into beasts with 30 pw"? 11:44 riker: "Form Changers are a polymorphitis role that does start with polymorph control, but none of the special effects of the doppelganger/shapeshifter. They also acquire polymorphitis later on, and since their polymorph control has a chance of failing, system shock or ripping valuable armor pieces apart are possible." that's the slex implementation; it's up to jonadab to list what it does in his original proposal 11:44 I can see the druids having a limited form of polymorph control: they can become anything that has M1_ANIMAL, but not, like, a master mind flayer. 11:44 <@riker> ^ 11:45 <@riker> or m1_beast 11:45 <@riker> since that's more accurate to d&d 11:45 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Ran Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:33531 11:45 well, nethack uses M1_ANIMAL already. 11:45 <@riker> isn't there a MA_BEAST tag or smth? 11:45 And polymorphitis, which I think is in the original proposal, wouldn't work too well either... druids should be able to polymorph at will... maybe they have limited #polyself access as well? 11:45 <@riker> huh apparently not 11:45 YANI: ^^ 11:46 <@riker> I'm thinking: polyself at will, no polymorphitis 11:46 <@riker> can poly into anything or lesser or equal base level than them 11:46 <@riker> @?master mind flayer 11:46 master mind flayer (h) | Lvl: 13 | Diff: 19 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 90 | Generates: sheol gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Attacks: 1d8 weapon physical, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int | Alignment: -8 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, flies, seeinvis, infravisible 11:46 and trees 11:46 <@riker> hm, that needs a buff >.> 11:46 dont forget trees 11:46 <@riker> ok k2 I won't forget trees 11:46 druids == trees 11:47 clearly, the only reason you would have to polymorph into a tree is to scare away all the dwarves. :) 11:47 heheh 11:47 <@riker> lol 11:48 How would polying into a tree work? Monsters that can normally track you via smell can come up and sniff the tree, but it would now smell like a tree. 11:49 so maybe make it so polymorphing into an object doesnt prevent you from being ignored by hostiles 11:49 I assume it wouldn't be like when the hero mimics something by eating a mimic corpse. Or maybe it should be? 11:49 but maybe since you'd be immobile and at rest, regen hp/pw more quickly 11:50 <@kritixilithos> and maybe trees have a lot of hp 11:50 " so maybe make it so polymorphing into an object doesnt prevent you from being ignored by hostiles" <-- so many negatives in this sentence... 11:51 * K2 shrugs 11:51 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 12:00 mmm cashews w/ sea salt 12:02 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:18729 12:02 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:18731 12:02 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:18733 12:02 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of remove curse", on T:18735 12:02 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "7 blessed wax candles", on T:18797 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 uncursed scrolls of genocide", on T:18976 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed wand of death", on T:19029 12:05 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 12:09 !whereis HDFBot 12:09 K2: [hdf-us] HDFBot [nh]: (Sam Hum Fem Law) T:20609 The Dungeons of Doom level: 5 12:14 [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:13562 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:36480 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:36481 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:36483 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:36486 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Mal Law) wished for "7 blessed wax candles", on T:36494 12:26 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 speed boots", on T:36629 12:34 . 12:34 Chris_ANG: Message from @riker at 2018-02-16 10:50 EST: another reminder: tone down starting tripe for hlf knights, they're burdened as soon as they try to ride. 12:34 Chris_ANG: Message from @riker at 2018-02-16 10:54 EST: in addition, can pseudodragons (at least smaller sizes) get the "eats meaty treats" like cats and dogs? 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh] HDFBot (Sam Hum Fem Law), 3828378 points, T:44964, killed by invisible Orcus 12:35 bleh 12:39 Hm. riker, are you around discord at the moment? 12:40 @riker 12:41 YANI/TDTTOE: shuddering a boulder on sokoban by zapping it with polymorph gives -1 luck. (Because I just did that and didn't get a penalty.) 12:41 We need to get Beholder to proxy Discord's equivalent of /whois so we can check people's away status and idle time and junk. 12:42 Will Beholder deliver messages to people in the Discord, or should I leave it for his IRC name? 12:42 EPI: teleporting a boulder in Sokoban incurs the luck penalty. 12:42 Chris_ANG: Umm, there was some discussion about setting that up, I think they _might_ have, but I'm not 100% certain. 12:43 !tell @riker If you get this, lemmy know XD 12:43 Will do, Chris_ANG! 12:44 !tell @riker Er, you also have a message in the IRC as rikersan 12:44 Will do, Chris_ANG! 12:44 FIQ: you had a recent idea for a "suspicious-looking" tile that hints to the player that there might be something there to search. How could this be done in ASCII? 12:44 yes !tell works both ways 12:45 Oh, ok then 12:45 Chris_ANG how does dnethack development? i've seen some new github traffic today 12:45 goes 12:46 !tell @riker Er, I've been informed that you WILL get these, so.... Re: "can pseudodragons get the "eats meaty treats" like cats and dogs?", how do you mean? I believe they already have carnivore and domestic, which should be all they need (tested that at least some behavior is the same) 12:46 Will do, Chris_ANG! 12:47 K2: It has moved forward some, though I haven't pushed the latest stuff to github. 12:48 I have decided on gimmicks for most of the new neutral quest monsters, and have coded quite a bit of them. 12:49 nice 12:51 I think the Release Checklist has grown more than it shrank, but some stuff has been crossed off as done: 12:51 https://etherpad.net/p/dNethack_Release_Checklist 12:52 *nod* 13:00 jonadab: alright, I'm gonna wrest this wand of teleportation to teleport the boulder without luck penalty :D 13:09 <@riker> chris you still here 13:09 @riker: Message from Chris_ANG at 2018-02-16 12:43 EST: If you get this, lemmy know XD 13:09 @riker: Message from Chris_ANG at 2018-02-16 12:44 EST: Er, you also have a message in the IRC as rikersan 13:09 @riker: Message from Chris_ANG at 2018-02-16 12:46 EST: Er, I've been informed that you WILL get these, so.... Re: "can pseudodragons get the "eats meaty treats" like cats and dogs?", how do you mean? I believe they already have carnivore and domestic, which should be all they need (tested that at least some behavior is the same) 13:10 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 13:10 . 13:10 rikersan: Message from Chris_ANG at 2018-02-16 00:09 EST: Female drow do get khakkharas to start. Males don't, though. 13:10 rikersan: Message from Chris_ANG at 2018-02-16 00:19 EST: Didn't know about the door thing. Messaging is a bit odd, but it is intended to destroy the door. There is a call to add_damage, but I confirmed that the shks don't get mad :( 13:11 <@riker> !tell chris_ANG door is more broken: daggers "break" the door when they shouldn't (I think?), same with swords and other pointy things. probably should be only bludgeoning 13:11 Will do, @riker! 13:11 <@riker> !tell Chris_ANG ah ok I was a male drow wiz 13:11 Will do, @riker! 13:12 <@riker> !tell Chris_ANG they don't seem to catch, when they do they drop it. same things seems to happen with a dog tho so ignore me 13:12 Will do, @riker! 13:12 <@riker> rip kritixi 13:12 <@riker> but that's what you get for doing gh 13:12 I was just seeing how the gameplay was 13:12 <@riker> !tell Chris_ANG but the tripe rations burdening you think is a real problem >.> (my last game I was actually stressed when riding) 13:12 Will do, @riker! 13:12 especially the spellcasting and memory bit 13:12 <@riker> ya 13:13 <@riker> I like gh's properties more than fiqhack I think 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:40370 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 shield of reflection", on T:40372 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Mal Law) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of enchant armor", on T:40381 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:40393 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:40394 13:14 but I would say my mistake was using shift+movement key, I move in the same direction and stopped too late in the middle of lots of monsters 13:17 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Val Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a circular amulet on an altar, on T:7072 13:17 the spell memory thing makes sense, I used to wonder why one would forget a spell even after using it frequently 13:17 SHIT, put all of my wands in the bag of holding and the one called "most probably create monster" turned out not to be create monster after all and now I no longer have a bag of holding :( 13:18 <@riker> :( 13:18 <[Demo]2> :(((( 13:18 <@riker> how much did you lose? 13:18 <@riker> anythign great? 13:18 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed wand of death", on T:40652 13:19 well, this is slex, so the contents are scattered like in unnethack (thanks bhaak for that idea :D), but I really wanted to have a bag of holding :( also, all the potions shattered of course 13:19 <@riker> :/ 13:20 didn't you engrave-test? 13:20 no, I just assumed that it was going to be create monster, which was obviously not the best idea 13:21 [hdf-us] [nd] munterplant (Val Hum Fem Law) averted death, on T:3229 13:21 the monster that dropped the wand was one that usually spawns with some item of create monster, I was so sure the wand would be it :( 13:22 lesson learned: always test wands before putting them in the bag! 13:26 !rng backtrack to mines | go deeper in the dungeon 13:26 LarienTelrunya: backtrack to mines 13:26 <@riker> !tell Chris_ANG I like your ideas for wishes (reading your checklist), I assume all of those wishes would haev a 100% sucess rate? 13:26 Will do, @riker! 13:28 <@riker> !tell Chris_ANG I like the idea of adding some properties. would be interesting to have a couple potions of wonder ala fiqhack randomly placed in places, i.e. lairs or maybe just in vaults. maybe as rare as wands of wishing, but among potions? 13:28 Will do, @riker! 13:30 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 13:31 [hdf-us] [nd] munterplant (Val Hum Fem Law), 3404 points, T:3277, killed by a dog 13:35 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:36 -!- aaron__ has joined #hardfought 13:39 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 13:40 Back 13:40 Chris_ANG: Message from @riker at 2018-02-16 13:11 EST: door is more broken: daggers "break" the door when they shouldn't (I think?), same with swords and other pointy things. probably should be only bludgeoning 13:40 Chris_ANG: Message from @riker at 2018-02-16 13:11 EST: ah ok I was a male drow wiz 13:40 Chris_ANG: Message from @riker at 2018-02-16 13:12 EST: they don't seem to catch, when they do they drop it. same things seems to happen with a dog tho so ignore me 13:40 Chris_ANG: Message from @riker at 2018-02-16 13:12 EST: but the tripe rations burdening you think is a real problem >.> (my last game I was actually stressed when riding) 13:40 Chris_ANG: Message from @riker at 2018-02-16 13:26 EST: I like your ideas for wishes (reading your checklist), I assume all of those wishes would haev a 100% sucess rate? 13:40 Chris_ANG: Message from @riker at 2018-02-16 13:28 EST: I like the idea of adding some properties. would be interesting to have a couple potions of wonder ala fiqhack randomly placed in places, i.e. lairs or maybe just in vaults. maybe as rare as wands of wishing, but among potions? 13:41 Yeah, based on the messages bladed weapons should probably open doors, or at least have further messages explaining why the door is now gone. 13:41 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:41 The way it's coded (I stole the code from SLASH'EM, I think) it seems that all weapons are intended to destroy the door. 13:41 <@riker> I am very sorry to spam you the heck full of msgs 13:41 meh :) 13:41 <@riker> :/ 13:42 <@riker> the other thing I really liek about your wish changes: means sacrificing is much more important 13:42 <@riker> and that you'll sometimes have to make do with what you have 13:42