00:00 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 speed boots", on T:43312 00:09 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:27 -!- rumflump has joined #hardfought 00:39 -!- bug_sniper_ has joined #hardfought 00:42 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:19068 00:53 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:14 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 01:15 -!- [Demo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:16 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 01:26 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 01:42 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:51 -!- rumflump has quit [Quit: rumflump] 01:54 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Hea Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:20373 01:57 . 01:57 LarienTelrunya: Message from @riker at 2018-02-05 16:01 EST: not yet I'm still on an old version (first with the new roles iirc) 01:57 LarienTelrunya: Message from @riker at 2018-02-05 16:01 EST: willl update later 01:57 LarienTelrunya: Message from jonadab at 2018-02-05 21:41 EST: Does slex have the Variant Reader's Codex and the Lost Orb of Phantastacoria as artifacts? 01:57 !tell riker well I was going to push some more commits today but I left the goddamn USB drive at home, so I can't push anything :( 01:57 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 01:58 !tell jonadab nope, but those sound like potential fake artifact names, will add, thanks :) 01:58 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 01:58 the lost orb of phanastacoria lol 01:59 also, someone on reddit suggested that I rename my variant "Sadistic Levels of Endless X-Citement" or something, maybe I'll do that? ;) 01:59 the lost orb of phanastacoria is actually from a webcomic called darths and droids 01:59 it's their name for the star wars' globe of peace 02:00 and the variant reader's codex is from a comic too I guess? 02:01 i don't remember exactly but probably 02:02 yeah 02:03 -!- rumflump has joined #hardfought 02:07 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:09 where's the complete list of slex items at 02:11 -!- Tarmunora__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:11 objects.c 02:11 /src/objects.c for the code and /src/invent.c for the in-game item descriptions (and /include/artilist.h for the artifacts) 02:12 i like how the only complete list is the source code itself 02:22 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:22 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 02:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 02:27 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:31 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:56996 02:32 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 02:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 03:22 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:38 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:63624 03:43 !whereis demobot 03:43 FIQ: [hdf-us] DemoBot [nh]: (Val Dwa Fem Law) T:63624 The Elemental Planes level: -1 (with Amulet) 03:44 wait 03:44 did he not farm 03:45 not that much scire 03:45 score 03:46 and only a single wand 03:59 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law), 11688770 points, T:64851, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DemoBot/nh343/dumplog/1517881848.nh343.txt 04:00 aw 04:00 he did farm 04:00 but I wonder for how long 04:02 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 04:06 !asc demobot 04:06 FIQ: demobot has ascended 4 times in 138 games (2.90%): nh:4 (2.90%) 04:18 ah 04:18 pet djinni ruined the farm 04:20 but it still went for 25k turns 04:51 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:25226 05:13 -!- rumflump has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:13 [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 13 points, T:32, killed by a kobold werejackal 05:42 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 05:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 05:44 -!- rumflump has joined #hardfought 05:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 05:56 jonadab: are you here *bundlebundlebundle*? I seem to recall you either thinking about a system that assigns levels to items in Nethack Fourk or implemented it already; how do you do that code-wise? Add a "level" variable for all the items in objects.c, so that e.g. potions of gain level can't be found unless the dungeon level is at least 20? 06:01 LarienTelrunya: compiling worked flawlessly with the GNUmakefile 06:01 ah, hi bhaak! did you run the game yet? 06:02 only shortly 06:03 you should check out the new sheol levels I made :) 06:03 granted, nobody ever gets that far in a real slex game, but I made new levels for Sheol anyway :P 06:04 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 06:04 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 06:14 [hdf-us] [nh4] emt (robinisbored) (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 21942 points, T:1058, killed by a gnome 06:19 <[Demo]> make an ice lethe sanctum 06:19 <[Demo]> i like lethe sanctum 06:21 you start on a level that looks like the lethe sanctum (and has the elder priest to boot!) when playing in wonderland mode in slex :D 06:22 "wonderland" 06:23 the name is from Steamband, an Angband variant 06:23 hmm, what happened to the blackmarket? 06:23 FIQ: play steamband! *bundlebundlebundle* (just kidding) 06:23 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:31413 06:24 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:31416 06:24 never heard of 06:24 bhaak: oh you're actually wizmoding now? the black market (and many other special levels for that matter) don't always exist in every game 06:24 the status line says "Blk:34" but it's a generic level 06:24 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 uncursed scrolls of genocide", on T:31421 06:24 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of telepathy", on T:31423 06:24 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed wand of death", on T:31424 06:25 [Demo]: where are the build instructions 06:25 yeah, in your particular game the black market does not exist and is replaced with a random level 06:25 for this bot 06:25 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 shield of reflection", on T:31472 06:25 you're cruel 06:26 that is actually one of slex' earliest features 06:26 bhaak: welcome to slex :D it has always bugged me that regular SLASH'EM hands you several ascension kits on a silver platter even before you get to the castle! 06:26 and a depressing one 06:26 at that 06:33 LarienTelrunya: to be fair, vanilla is not much better. my foggy design ideas for a gehennom redesign are along the lines of making gehennom much shorter and adding more optional side branches for the completionists and those that need more stuff before going for the amulet 06:33 LarienTelrunya: as the usual player will ascend when they reach the castle. 06:33 ah, is that why you made Sheol - to have an extra branch in Gehennom? 06:34 no, Adeon made Sheol. to have a more challenging branch in nethack 06:34 my dungeon overhaul proposal also includes making more Gehennom branches, but I need to finish some other things first, i.e. flesh out the regular dungeon, before I can make more branches 06:37 Regarding assigning levels to items, that sounds like something aosdict might've done for ais523's thiefstone idea. 06:37 jonadab: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-02-06 01:58 EST: nope, but those sound like potential fake artifact names, will add, thanks :) 06:38 jonadab: oh, so you haven't actually done such a thing in Fourk? :( because I want to implement a similar thing in slex for one specific playable race only, and was wondering whether I could steal it from Fourk 06:38 Thiefstones would be ultra-low-priority for Fourk, because Fourk already has magic chests. 06:38 But I believe aosdict implemented it in xnethack. 06:39 So you might be able to nab it from there. 06:39 remind me what the thiefstone does again? why does it require items to have levels? 06:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:41 The thiefstone has a specific level and coordinates where it sends the items it "steals". 06:43 ah... well, that's different then, what I meant was an Angband-like thing where each item has a "depth" level associated with it and is next to impossible to randomly generate above that 06:43 so e.g. potions of gain level are level 20 and thus very rarely seen on dungeon level 19 or above 06:44 Oooh, you meant not individual items, but item types. 06:44 Yeah. 06:44 Yeah, that's completely different. I _do_ want to do something along those lines in Fourk, but probably not until after rebase. 06:44 Or possible for .5 at the earliest. 06:45 ah, so I guess you don't have actual code that would make it work? 06:45 probably requires adding an additional field in the objects.c array that stores the level 06:46 THat's how I would do it, yes: add a field in objects.c 06:46 I _do_ have code that makes randomly generated spellbooks biased toward low-level ones on early dungeon levels. 06:46 But that's specific to spellbooks, which already have a level. 06:47 yeah, that's what I tried to do yesterday as well, but I can't figure out how to link the specific field in objects.c to objclass.h because it lists the flags and bitfields in a different order... 06:48 Well, you have to add it to the macros. 06:49 and the macros automatically know that e.g. the "color" field corresponds to objclass.h's "oc_color" field? 06:49 No. 06:50 # define OBJECT(obj,bits,prp,sym,prob,dly,wt,cost,sdam,ldam,oc1,oc2,nut,color) \ {0, 0, (char *)0, bits, prp, sym, dly, COLOR_FIELD(color) \ prob, wt, cost, sdam, ldam, oc1, oc2, nut} 06:50 ugh this is all so confusing :P 06:50 The first part of the macro definition lists the fields in the order you're going to list them when calling the macro; the second part, the business end of the macro, is what that gets turned into, and must list the fields in the same order they're in in the struct definition in objclass.h 06:51 ah, so if I added "oc_minlvl" in objclass.h after "oc_color" then it must go after COLOR_FIELD(color) in the macro? 06:51 THe _names_ of the fields in the macro are arbitrary (though in some cases they are mnemonic) and exist so that the active part of the macro can use the fields out-of-order compared to how the macro is called. 06:51 Yep. 06:52 The macro gets expanded by the preprocessor, _before_ compilation, without reference to any other files except the one being processed. 06:52 (Except it knows about #defines, because the preprocessor does those.) 06:53 And yes, the way NetHack uses preprocessor macros is a bit confusing in places. 06:53 ah, so I did in fact put my new field in the right place yesterday, nice :) now "all" I have to do is add an actual minlvl field to every single of the 3000+ objects in objects.c and assign levels to all of them :P 06:54 Wait, slex only has 3000 objects? 06:55 Why aren't there as many objects as monsters? 06:55 <@🍕> maybe many different monsters use the same objects 06:55 <@🍕> just look differently 06:56 <@🍕> and have other stats 06:56 These are "objects" in the ordinary mainstream English-language sense of the term. 06:57 oh by the way, I find it funny how the random monster generator perlscript was originally meant to mock slex and ended up supplying stuff for slex's monst.c :D 06:57 Not OOP-paradigm objects. This is pre-ANSI C. 06:57 So everything's structs, except for what's just preprocessor macros built on top of preprocessor macros built on top of preprocessor macros in a defines-all-the-way-down paradigm. 06:58 LarienTelrunya: Yeah, me too. 07:02 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:03 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:28860 07:40 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:25094 07:44 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:54691 07:46 that was to be expected. that's just Germans and their not understanding of any kind of humor 07:51 Eh, I can understand not understanding humor. I don't think most American humor is funny at all. My ancestors have lived in Ohio since 1815 on my mom's side, and in Georgia since at least the mid ninteenth century, probably longer, on my dad's side. But I don't "get" American humor. 07:52 And _nobody_ gets British humor, except the British. 07:57 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 08:01 jonadab: That's not funny. Signed, the British. 08:01 :) 08:03 elenmirie: I may be willing to retract my statement, if you can explain to me why Absolutely Fabulous is considered funny. 08:03 it just is! :p 08:04 To me, it's about as funny as an Adam Sandler flick. Or a swift kick in the kidneys. 08:04 heh 08:04 happy gilmore was awesome 08:04 dont you mock adman sandler! 08:04 adam 08:04 blah 08:05 IMO, it is not necessary to mock Adam Sandler. 08:05 I got into a big discussion a while ago with a friend who took exception with my saying a joke he repeated from some comedian wasn't funny 08:05 because clearly, it was funny to some people 08:05 you just mocked adam sandler 08:05 ! 08:05 I used him as a point of reference. 08:05 lol 08:05 who the f*ck is adam sandler? 08:06 i'm messing with you jonadab 08:06 elenmirie: American comedy actor in the "the stupider it is, the more hilarious it must be" school of comedy. 08:06 ah 08:06 elenmirie: he got his start on saturday night live 08:06 * elenmirie googles 08:06 Ugh, that explains a lot. 08:06 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:56380 08:06 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "7 blessed wax candles", on T:56380 08:07 _Nothing_ that comes out of Saturday Night Live has _ever_ been worth watching. 08:07 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed wand of death", on T:56381 08:07 granted his brand of comedy is not high brow 08:07 but 08:07 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:56383 08:07 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed wand of death", on T:56384 08:07 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:56385 08:07 sometimes you just need to laugh at stupid stuff 08:08 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fireproof historic bag of holding", on T:31484 08:08 I've never heard of any of his films... does that make me out of it, or cool? 08:08 neither 08:09 It means you don't hang out with people with an IQ below 50. 08:09 lol 08:09 happy gilmore was prob his best film 08:09 waterboy was bleh 08:09 _Now_ I have mocked Adam Sandler. 08:09 K2: Weren't both of those quite a while ago? 08:09 yes 08:10 he hasn starred in a film in quite some time 08:10 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed wand of death", on T:56478 08:13 Also, 50 is an exaggeration. Many Adam Sandler fans, in fact, have an IQ in the high 70s or low 80s. 08:16 i liked adam sandler when he was at SNL 08:16 and a couple of his films were funny overall 08:17 last time i was tested i scored a 138 on an IQ test :P admittedly that score has probably dropped since then... 08:18 why, too much nethack? 08:19 one can never play too much nethack! 08:19 Don't worry k2, I always disregard it when people report their own IQ's 08:19 I'm sure you are plenty clever 08:20 elenmirie: too much rum 08:20 heh 08:20 K2, for me too much whiskey but same thing really 08:20 Grasshopper: i probably just got lucky on test day 08:20 I did the test about 4 times and it kept coming back with the same results 08:21 but I won't tell you 'cos of what I just said 08:21 heh 08:21 the score probably told you what you already knew 08:21 yeah well... IQ scores are only a fragment of the intelligence story anyway 08:22 yup 08:22 there should be a test for common sense 08:22 that would be interesting! 08:22 oh wait there is one 08:22 its called 'life' 08:22 hehe 08:22 how far can you make it? :P 08:23 isn't that the Darwin awards that you're thinking of? 08:23 yeah! 08:23 i saw an example of failing at common sense on my drive in to work this morning 08:23 do tell... 08:24 its snowing, there's ice and snow on the road, and there's a kid in front me driving a little sports car with what looks like summer tires and he's purposely revving it up and fish tailing right on the back bumper of the car in front of him 08:24 he almost caused to accidents 08:25 ugh 08:25 future darwin award recipient 08:25 to = two 08:25 let's hope he a) receives the award before he manages to reproduce, and b) doesn't take anyone with him 08:26 agreed 08:26 heh, I used to deliberately fish-tail my old ute in the wet or on dirt roads 08:26 Grasshopper: I actually don't think IQ is a good measure of intelligence. I think it's mostly a measure of how good you are at taking IQ tests. 08:27 heh 08:27 well 08:27 fishing-out can be lots of fun, only for the truly intelligent obviously :P 08:27 we cant use how successful you are as an indicator of high intelligence 08:27 (read: president trump) 08:28 Also, any "IQ Test" that doesn't ask your age, is made up by people who don't know what IQ is. 08:28 jonadab, agreed with caveats 08:28 K2: I actually favor the SAT reasoning test. 08:28 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: *bundlebundlebundle*] 08:29 i never took the SAT 08:29 is the reasoning portion a new thing? 08:29 No. 08:29 or has it been around for a bit? 08:29 If you just say "the SAT" without specifying, you're almost certainly thinking of the reasoning test. 08:29 ah 08:29 But technically there are other tests with the SAT brand as well, which are less well known. 08:30 yeah. college wasnt a priority for me back when it should have been 08:30 Ah. 08:30 A lot of poeple around here take the ACT instead. 08:30 thats what I took 08:30 I took both. The ACT is mostly facts. It tests what you know. 08:31 The SAT tests how you think. 08:31 Whether you can figure stuff out. 08:31 is it still on a 1600 point scale or has it changed? 08:31 ACT is a good test for how you're going to do in college, if you go to the kind of college where most of your professors want you to memorize facts and parrot answers. 08:32 K2: The scale was rejiggered in, umm, the nineties I think. It still goes to the same numbers, but they don't mean the same thing. 08:32 i am pretty much out of the loop in that regard 08:32 (Too many students were getting low scores, not enough were getting high scores, so they rescaled it to be more realistic for modern students.) 08:32 lol 08:32 in 10-12 years i will need to get back into the proverbial loop (my kid will be close to college age then) 08:33 lol wow jonadab 08:33 elenmirie: not a joke, unfortunately. 08:33 thats WRONG 08:33 oh the standards are too high? lets adjust the standards 08:33 yep 08:33 got to fit it to a bell curve 08:34 https://research.collegeboard.org/programs/sat/data/equivalence/sat-individual 08:34 looks so nice and neat that way 08:35 mmmm curves 08:35 So e.g. my SAT math score would be an 800 on today's scale (i.e., the scale no longer goes high enough to measure my math ability). 08:35 true intelligence includes the ability to appreciate nice curves 08:36 Not that my pre-college SAT score would be considered relevant now, anyway, given that I majored in math in college. 08:36 is the GRE similar to the SAT? 08:37 I believe my Bachelor's level math education was somewhat sub-par, because my school's math program was small and not very emphasized. 08:37 elenmirie: Not sure, I have no experience with the GRE. 08:37 I stopped with a B.S. 08:37 I think it's structured similarly 08:37 Wouldn't surprise me. 08:38 I took the GRE and maxed all three parts 08:38 but I test well generally 08:38 Yeah, I also tend to test well. 08:38 when I did high school in Queensland in the mid-80's they had a fixed number of scores to give out - so you could do really well, but still get a crap score because (1) there were a lot of students in your year and (2) your school had a lot of dumb kids 08:38 the third part consisted entirely of my favourite type of logic problems 08:39 My year had many many students, and my school had a lot of dumb kids... 08:39 so if I did school the year before I would have gotten a much higher score 08:39 wouldn't it be worse if the school had a lot of smart kids? 08:39 <@luxidream> ew, they had logic problems on tests? I would have hated that 08:39 My high school graduating class was chock full of slackers. Worked to my benefit, because I graduated third in a class of 200, which looked really good on my college financial aid application :-) 08:40 :) 08:40 i was lucky to graduate 08:40 elenmirie, they allocated a set of scores to each school, depending on how well their kids did in an earlier test 08:40 oh, that sounds screwed up! 08:40 totally 08:41 but I still got into the science/economics degree I wanted so not to disastrous 08:41 to/too 08:41 well, that's good 08:41 what a rigged system! 08:41 yeah but no Vet/pharmaceutical study for me 08:41 i was kicked out of college after year 2 08:42 luxidream: the year I took the GRE that section was new, so there were no old exams and no one knew what to expect 08:42 I lucked out :D 08:42 K2: you got kicked out? what did you do? 08:43 at least I finished university before they got rid of free tertiary education 08:43 got adrunk and skipped class. a lot 08:43 ah 08:43 :) 08:43 <@luxidream> remind me not to do that 08:43 <@luxidream> lol 08:43 K2: life education 08:43 i have a bullshit degree now, took 24 years to get it 08:44 Grasshopper yup 08:44 University of Hard Knocks 08:44 i have an associates degree (2 yr) in general bullshit 08:44 with all the rights and privileges thereof! 08:44 I used to take a schooner (big glass) of beer up to my afternoon economics and comp sci lectures 08:44 i got it because i wanted to be able to to tell my kid i actually got a degree 08:45 sit up the back 08:45 lol Grasshopper 08:45 hahah 08:45 <@luxidream> must be nice 08:45 <@luxidream> 😛 08:45 i was enrolled at the uni here to wrap up a BS in cybersecurity 08:45 prep on calculating angles before lectures by playing pool in the bar 08:45 but then my job changed, no time :/ 08:47 Grasshopper: that makes me think of how the heavy-duty D&D players would be flunking everything except probability 08:47 K2: rats 08:48 elenmirie, yeah 100%, playing D&D gave me an intuitive sense of probability 08:48 yes 08:48 which I welcome for playing NH 08:48 and a superhuman ability to do dice problems in your head, no doubt 08:48 i actually enjoyed my stats/prob class 08:48 wife hated it 08:49 yeah, that and/or you just memorise common probability matrices 08:50 loved stats, my favourite 08:50 good for stock market investing too (helps you to evaluate risk/reward) 08:51 hm, yes it would 08:59 elenmirie: [backscroll] fortunately darwin awards are only granted to people who have not managed to reproduce 09:00 jonadab: I know a lot of older people and teachers who are nostalgic for the old SAT analogies section (the one where you pick X in a statement of A:B::X:D), but it's really little more than a vocab test. 09:10 So, I scored myself an early WoW 09:11 well not that early, lv19 or so 09:11 lucky me - I never expect that to happen 09:12 anyways, it solved my boh problem so now my healer has everything she needs really 09:14 and it was a WoW (0:3) too! 09:19 -!- Menche has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:20 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 09:25 sweet 09:25 my orc ranger in unnethack just cleared the VotD and dragon caves last night 09:25 about to send him into gehennom 09:25 the wand in the castle was 1:2 09:25 not bad for unnethack :P 09:26 aosdict: The SAT that I took had the analogies. They were... pretty rough, for the test taker. 09:26 And no, it wasn't just vocab. 09:27 Because the analogies were quite stretched. 09:27 YOu could know all the words and still have no clue what they were going for. 09:27 I had one that involved the words "walk" and "butter", which I never figured out. 09:27 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed rustproof eye of the aethiopica", on T:31501 09:28 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof eye of the aethiopica", on T:31501 09:29 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof eye of the aethiopica", on T:31504 09:29 third time's the charm 09:29 \o/ 09:54 Jonadab is suddenly moving faster. 09:54 ^^ new pet minotaur 09:58 gah where did my magic whistle go? 10:39 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Raisse suddenly disappears!] 10:39 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 10:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v theRaisse] by ChanServ 10:46 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 10:51 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:59 !who 10:59 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] DemoBot [nh] Grasshopper [nd] Delraven [un] k2 [un] 10:59 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex] 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:73938 11:24 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:25 !lastgame 11:25 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/robinisbored/nethack4/dumplog/2018-02-06%2011%3A13%3A36%2C%20emt-Rog-Hum-Mal-Cha%2C%20died.txt 11:25 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AmyBSOD/slex/dumplog/1517932970.slex.txt 11:29 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:38 yay, orctown! 11:46 evil 12:07 -!- oh6_ has joined #hardfought 12:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6_] by ChanServ 12:10 T:3 Foo bites the kobold werejackal. The kobold werejackal hits Foo. Foo is killed! 12:10 go grunthack 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:80624 12:19 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 12:29 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 12:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v theRaisse] by ChanServ 12:44 -!- Tarmunora__ has joined #hardfought 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Cha), 19073278 points, T:81925, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DemoBot/nh343/dumplog/1517909649.nh343.txt 12:54 a robot is better than me at nethack 12:54 hah no 12:54 not even 12:55 i was running the same bot (different name) 12:55 it does some tremendously stupid stuff 12:55 it can ascend, i can't 12:55 keep at it 12:55 is it just a cluster of if statements or is there some sort of neural network at work? 12:55 it took me on/off about 20 yrs to earn my first ascension 12:56 https://github.com/krajj7/BotHack 12:58 deadnoob when did you start playing nethack? 13:02 being on irc and reading the wiki are the best two things you can do anyway 13:05 Evil Patch Idea: Why would the orcs only ransack Minetown and nothing else? Maybe they've also taken over the top level of Sokoban and stolen the prize, ransacked Delphi and killed the Oracle, or maybe even gotten into your quest and killed your quest leader! 13:09 I do like the Anachrononaut home level in that it has monsters besieging the quest leader. I don't like that the game is unwinnable if they manage to kill her, though. 13:10 YANI: a quest where the leader has been captured, so you actually receive the quest from an underling, and you have to go save the leader. 13:12 That could work, potentially. Lock the leader in a cell. 13:12 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Gno Fem Neu) killed the ghost of ZappyFace, the former Thaumaturge, on T:11205 13:15 Heck, does it even need a nemesis? Just make it hard to get the leader there and back. 13:16 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:33042 13:16 <[Demo]> yo that's a role 13:16 You only get the QA when you return the leader. (Would probably need a "follow you closely while not being a pet" monster AI, though <-- YANI) 13:16 <[Demo]> but instead of leader god 13:16 <[Demo]> and instead of quest, entire game 13:16 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Gno Fem Neu), 51805 points, T:11247, killed by an owlbear 13:20 so god is imprisoned and i have to rescue him/her/it? 13:21 what kind of god is that? i aschew theism 13:22 er 13:22 eschew. i ESCHEW theism! 13:22 i engrave on your altars with impunity 13:26 <[Demo]> ilsensine 13:45 k2: late reply I first played it around 2 years ago, began taking it more 'seriously' in the past year 13:46 although after every personal best splat I get a little salty and don't play for a while and spend too much time thinking about every mistake I made 13:47 understandable 13:47 !booze deadnoob 13:47 * Beholder tosses deadnoob a tumbler of grappa, fermented by Arsinoe at 20 degrees Celsius. 13:53 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:51490 14:05 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:51710 14:08 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:22 <@luxadream> hi 14:22 Hello @luxadream, Welcome to #hardfought 14:22 <@luxadream> dammit autocorrect 14:23 <@luxidream> hi 14:23 Hello @luxidream, Welcome to #hardfought 14:23 <@luxidream> that's better 14:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Lol (Nob Vam Mal Cha), 5552 points, T:4229, killed by a plains centaur, while fainted from lack of food 14:24 heh 14:24 spelt hi wrong 14:24 it's worthh 4 more points in scrabble 14:25 YASI: scrabble branch where you place monsters on the map 14:25 <@luxidream> hope you didn't geno e 14:26 eh we can use elementals 14:27 I can see this being a devnull sort of challenge though. You have 7 statues/figurines and pick them up and drop them on the map to score points 14:27 <@luxidream> who are you playing against? 14:27 the game? 14:28 at the end of the game, all yours turn into pets and all theirs turn into hostiles >:) 14:29 <@luxidream> game spells "ALLELE" 14:29