00:22 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:24 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 00:55 -!- aosdict_ has joined #hardfought 01:00 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: Quit] 01:01 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 01:06 @luxidream try f with polearms some day 01:06 it's basically tab-hitting 01:06 in fiqhack that is 01:06 works with autoswap too 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh4] K2 (k2) (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 47412 points, T:6461, killed by a large dog 01:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:47 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:56 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 02:03 !tell StatueSurfer Go Team Nastytrap! (Also, the trap that prevents you from moving in the same direction twice in a row? Just wait a turn between moves :D) 02:03 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 02:04 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 02:04 hey 02:04 Hello StatueSurfer, Welcome to #hardfought 02:04 StatueSurfer: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-01-16 02:03 EST: Go Team Nastytrap! (Also, the trap that prevents you from moving in the same direction twice in a row? Just wait a turn between moves :D) 02:12 hi StatueSurfer 02:12 hi 02:12 Hello StatueSurfer, Welcome to #hardfought 02:12 good luck finding an unicorn horn in your fh game 02:12 please 02:12 i've got green dragon scale mail 02:13 and healing spells are an adequate substitute for a unihorn 02:13 stun 02:13 conf 02:13 hallu 02:13 blind 02:13 there's a cure blindness spell 02:13 ooh someone actually using the cure blindness spell 02:13 hallucination is uncommon anyway 02:14 and grayswandir blocks it 02:14 stunlocking will be even worse than ill I think 02:14 since there is no cure at all beyond unihorn 02:14 and waiting 02:15 fiqhack shimmering DSM gives you stun res 02:15 also you probably want to wish for an unihorn lategame if you get that fa 02:15 r 02:15 LarienTelrunya: a monster genocided u in StatueSurfer's game 02:16 lol 02:16 told you it's a bad idea to let monsters read those scrolls :D 02:16 he is/was playing knight 02:16 so yeah 02:16 probably due to the pet 02:16 yeah 02:16 now i'm seriously considering running ki-rin post-castle over black dragon 02:17 heh 02:17 at least slex screws you over in rational, fair ways, such as having monsters throw tron stones and melee prefix stones at you! :D 02:17 I mean, dragon mounts are fun 02:17 since ki-rin has the distinct property of being ungenocidable 02:17 LarienTelrunya: "fair" 02:17 > slex being fair 02:17 FIQ: btw, you might want to look at https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/8a0ce53d8d98ac5873ca5a7b114c7c54cf0ff5b2 - there's new messages about FIQhack! 02:17 nasty traps which don't reveal themselves and afflict you with random garbage 02:18 StatueSurfer: works as intended, also, in this case the nasty trap effects came from cursed gray stones in your inventory 02:18 LarienTelrunya: but you never got to astra 02:18 l 02:19 FIQ: true, some of the messages are based on other players' experiences and of course my judgement might be off 02:19 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:19 fiq did you make quasits naturally invisible 02:19 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 02:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 02:19 LarienTelrunya: also you can't die by zapping death at yourself as a demon 02:19 StatueSurfer: yes 02:19 ... 02:19 it was a 4k change 02:19 attempting to make them more interesting 02:19 I don't think it worked 02:20 it makes them more annoying 02:20 and i have telepathy anyway 02:21 LarienTelrunya: there are plenty of defenses vs slow monster 02:21 FIQ: heh, maybe the incubus's "wand of death" is special and ignores the demon's immunity? :D 02:21 free action makes it not work 66% of the time 02:21 blue DSM completely prevents it 02:21 quaffing blessed speed monster makes it go away 02:21 what, the speed monster potion has to be blessed? I was hoping uncursed would be enough... 02:22 because blessing things lategame is so hard 02:22 it's probably best to have a bunch of already blessed speed monster potions, and of course stuff weigh way too much so they'll weigh you down :P 02:22 what if you cast speed monster 02:23 not that i'll be able to do that 02:23 StatueSurfer: will not help 02:23 :[ 02:24 LarienTelrunya: slow monster isn't that common 02:24 yeah i know 02:24 certainly more common than slex's wand of inertia though :) 02:25 oh, what if a monster zaps the spell of slow monster? same effect? 02:25 of course 02:25 well kind of 02:25 hahaha 02:25 duration might be different 02:25 due to wand skill vs lack of it 02:25 but beyond that, yeah 02:25 sounds like fun 02:25 it isn't that bad 02:26 you haven't even been to fiqhack's astrla 02:26 *astral 02:26 I don't suppose you have a precompiled FIQhack binary for Windows that I could use to wizmode? 02:26 oh yeah it has the buffed player monsters 02:26 also I consider cancelling the player much more fair than cancelling their inventory 02:27 LarienTelrunya: https://github.com/FredrIQ/fiqhack/releases 02:27 well I consider it much more fair if magic resistance protects against cancellation :D 02:27 doesn't have the changes listed as "Past 4.3.0" in the wiki 02:27 it does in fiqhack too 02:27 just not 100% of the time 02:27 "fiqhack_portable.zip" is for windows, right? 02:27 they both are 02:27 one is just a zip 02:27 one is an installer 02:28 also unlike fourk 02:28 fiqhack's SDL build actually works 02:29 yay optometrist blue as a message color :D 02:29 I have told you more than once that you can disable ti 02:29 *it 02:29 you are the only one who complains at that color 02:29 because you haven't bothered fixing your terminal pallet 02:29 wtf, ctrl-F is not the wizmode command for revealing the map? 02:29 no, M is 02:29 ctrl-M doesn't seem to do anything 02:30 let me check 02:30 ah 02:30 apparently I bound it myself in my local setup 02:30 use #showmap 02:30 ah, thx 02:30 you can also go to options -> interface options -> keymap -> remap debug commands 02:30 gaaaaaaaaaah, I'd have to remap almost every key 02:30 for example, / isn't farlook :( 02:31 ; is 02:31 wow i gained 2 resistances from one corpose 02:31 *corpse 02:31 this is a local build, so there should be a rcfile somewhere, right? 02:31 also / is farlook 02:31 what are you talking about 02:31 yes 02:31 Bad command: 'NumDivide'. 02:31 disable numlock 02:31 ... no nh3-based variant forces me to disable that :P 02:32 also disabling numlock does not help 02:32 ok 02:32 so map it, then 02:32 what is the location of the rcfile? 02:32 if you chose the .zip 02:32 it is in the same directory 02:32 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 02:32 save and exit before modifying 02:32 to prevent the game overwriting it 02:33 wtf, I can't see it? maybe because I never changed any option yet and therefore it doesn't exist? 02:33 possible 02:33 NH4 options are weird 02:33 sorry 02:34 gah, now I did change an option and there's still no rcfile to be found, yet when I close the game and reload, the changed option is still changed 02:34 then there is in fact a config 02:34 you just aren't looking in the right place 02:34 cool 02:34 DL17 bones 02:34 !tell ais523 how can I make KEY_PF1 an alternative keybind for '/'? 02:34 Will do, FIQ! 02:34 also I don't see the savegame file either 02:34 LarienTelrunya: hmm 02:34 I don't really know where it places these things on windows 02:35 there are so many folders with weird names like "libnethack" and "libjansson" etc. 02:35 but no folder named "save" 02:35 is there a .config ? 02:35 also look at AppData\Roaming 02:35 !tell ais523 as in, the whatis command 02:35 Will do, FIQ! 02:36 FIQ: ahh, that did the trick, there is in fact a FIQhack folder and a Nethack Fourk folder 02:36 LarienTelrunya: thanks, now I know in the future 02:36 you used the zip, correct? 02:36 yeah 02:36 so it still places config stuff there? good to know 02:37 now it's hopefully only a matter of copying my server rcfile stuff into FIQHack.conf (would love it if you could do the same on the servers btw, rcfile support for nh4-based variants when :P) 02:37 is this a feature request for hdf or fiqhack? 02:38 oh, apparently I need keymap.conf 02:38 well this is a feature request for all nh4-based variants and all servers that host them ;) 02:39 LarienTelrunya: well what you are asking wouldn't need any work on nh4-derivatives themselves... 02:40 why does it keep saying that NumDivide is a bad command :/ 02:40 okay i guess that wasn't a bones file 02:40 LarienTelrunya: map it 02:40 it was a just a random named zombie with telepathy 02:40 which will fix the problem 02:41 ah finally got it to work; somehow it was F2/NumDivide which is a different key than NumDivide *headdesk* 02:42 wait are you mapping keys by editing the rc? 02:42 you realize it's easier to map keys in particular ingame, right 02:42 You arrive on the Astral Plane!Here the High Temples of the aligned gods are located.You sense alarm, hostility, and excitement in the air!Pat the invisible Sorcerer walks very quietly. 02:43 well this one I did map in-game 02:43 LarienTelrunya: btw 02:43 to ease debugging of monster stuff 02:43 I created #toggledetect in FIQHack 02:43 it toggles intrinsic monster detection on or off 02:43 ah, just like ctrl-H in slex :) 02:43 heh 02:44 why is there an extra space in "the Angel of Moloch"? 02:44 also wtf I cannot ctrl-T teleport in wizmode??? 02:45 it says "you don't know that spell"... 02:46 alright i was gifted dragonbane 02:46 now all i have to do is get a stethoscope so i can tell when monsters are actually fleeing 02:47 lol there is a command #desync that has the description "corrupt the save file" 02:47 pushed a fix 02:48 to the double space issue 02:48 :) 02:48 LarienTelrunya: ctrl+t is meant to be the normal player teleport 02:48 so that that alone can be debugged 02:48 wizmode tele is #wizport 02:48 used to be mapped to ctrl+f 02:48 but now #find is instead 02:48 #wizport: unknown extended command. 02:48 give me a moment 02:49 hm 02:49 it is in fact #wizport 02:49 LarienTelrunya: oh you added a # 02:49 ah, yeah 02:49 now I get "You feel disoriented for a moment." YAAAAAAAAY 02:50 probably the Amulet 02:50 I should fix that 02:50 some weird anti-teleportation check is still in place even though I'm wizmoding 02:50 it is a vanilla bug 02:50 really??? 02:50 * LarienTelrunya quickly wizmodes a vanilla game 02:50 hm 02:50 I have already pushed a fix to this 02:50 might only be int he 4.3.0 build 02:50 *in the 02:51 vanilla bug my ass, in 3.4.3 wizmode I can teleport just fine with the amulet :D 02:51 oh wait, it's the percentage chance to not be able to teleport 02:51 * LarienTelrunya is too used to slex, where you simply cannot teleport with the amulet at all 02:51 OK, just checked 02:51 yeah it happens in vanilla too, 33% of the time or so 02:51 the bug is in 4.3.0 only 02:51 so I already fixed it 02:52 okay so I finally managed to teleport on FIQhack's astral plane, now I need to wish for an ascension kit 02:52 here goes nothing 02:52 you should probably have done that before arriving on astral 02:52 maybe go back to earth and do it 02:52 gah stupid Rodney! 02:52 to keep astral "pristine" 02:52 k 02:52 there's a random player monster on DL22 02:52 ctrl+v, then ?, then select earth 02:53 StatueSurfer: yeah they can actually appear now 02:53 since I made them generating be ignored 90% of the time instead of 99% 02:53 uhh, FIQhack seems to have the vanilla bug where a +120 long sword will always miss due to the to-hit variable overflowing to a negative number 02:53 ah 02:53 LarienTelrunya: yes 02:53 is that actually a bug 02:53 it is still a char 02:53 and no it isn't a bug 02:54 StatueSurfer: fiqhack player monsters have a better inventory now I think 02:54 unless I messed that up 02:54 now I have to do with a +100 long sword instead because of the bug :P 02:54 mm 02:54 but you're still outside Gehennom 02:54 so no astral-style kit 02:54 yeah 02:54 how good are we talking then 02:54 well 02:54 it's a wizard so i'm guessing CoMR 02:55 no armor beyond what he found on the ground 02:55 a decent weapon, likely with object properties 02:55 and a bunch of items 02:55 gaaaaaaah, FIQ you made it so that Rodney actually warps to a random place on astral when wounded? :P 02:55 ooh, wizard 02:55 that can still be nasty 02:55 due to spells 02:55 rodney appears on astral in fiqhack?? 02:55 no 02:55 LarienTelrunya warped to Earth 02:55 oh 02:55 Rodney spawned 02:55 ah 02:56 then she warped to astral 02:56 Rodney followed 02:56 since she was carrying the Amulet 02:56 well now he's dead at last :D 02:56 LarienTelrunya: btw, to get a proper view of fiqhack astral 02:56 I suggest taking a save of a fiqhack ascension 02:56 and cut off the end 02:56 of the astral run 02:57 why does the game lag so much 02:57 it shouldn't lag that badly 02:57 it literally takes about half a second at a --More-- to display the next set of messages when pressing space 02:57 nobody has complained about it 02:57 The bolt of fire bounces! The bolt of fire hits you! You feel a bit hot.You are caught in the fireball! You resist the fireball 02:57 LarienTelrunya: probably the SDL build 02:57 or wincon 02:57 ^^ there's a period missing at the end 02:58 fixed 02:58 thanks 02:59 aww, I cannot wish for speed boots of flying 02:59 okay fiqhack's monster displacement makes the real monster vanish?? 02:59 StatueSurfer: yes 02:59 why wouldn't it? 02:59 you can use telepathy 02:59 i figured it would make a clone of real monster 02:59 ah, but I can wish for a helm of telepathy of brilliance :) 02:59 an illusory clone 02:59 if you are displaced 02:59 i figured that was how player displacement worked 02:59 monsters only see your displaced image 02:59 similar here 03:00 oh 03:00 FIQ: when quaffing a blessed potion of full healing, "You feel fully healed" also lacks a period 03:00 already fixed 03:00 but thanks anyawy 03:00 (it's in 4.3.0) 03:00 StatueSurfer: so was the wizard easy 03:00 to deal with 03:00 haven't gotten to him yet 03:01 he's on the other side of the level behind a secret passage 03:01 ah 03:01 right I see him 03:01 the monsters getting displaced were sergeants 03:01 with a magical pair of low boots 03:01 an invisible conjurer [seen: cooperative telepathy]; unexplored area 03:01 yay the priests are spamming create monster! 03:01 ahh 03:02 StatueSurfer: haha he'll probably be a pushover 03:02 conjurer is the 2nd rank 03:02 so he's like level 4-6 03:02 oh 03:02 heh 03:02 atm level generation is random 03:02 huh, there was no "Your movements are unencumbered now" when I went from burdened to unburdened; intentional? 03:02 1-16 above Gehennom 03:02 15-30 in Gehennom or endgam 03:02 e 03:02 ha now i have the low boots of displacement! 03:02 nice 03:03 The invisible renegade priest of Moloch zaps an iridium wand!The invisible captain slows down abnormally.The invisible hill giant slows down abnormally. 03:03 it's possible this my first footwear of the whole game 03:03 yaaaaaaay now I have inertia :P 03:03 *slow 03:03 slow 03:03 this isn't slex 03:03 thank goodness for that 03:04 The invisible xorn zaps a wand of make invisible!The invisible xorn zaps a wand of make invisible! Nothing happens. 03:04 the uh wizard poly'd himself into a nymph... 03:04 StatueSurfer: lol 03:05 well as said 03:05 XL4-6 03:05 he probably considered his original form too shit 03:05 yeah 03:05 he did poly again into a zruty though 03:06 okay so as far as I can tell, the main source of create monster spam on FIQhack astral actually comes from spellcasters that know summoning spells 03:06 you know fiqhack has autoswap, right? 03:07 wizard didn't have a cloak of magic resistance 03:08 i guess that'd be too OP 03:08 keep in mind that this is the "easier" difficulty level of player monsters 03:08 they can start appearing by like Dlvl10 or so 03:08 okay 03:08 @v?wizard 03:08 wizard (@) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 3 | Generates: special | AC: 10 | Attacks: 1d6 weapon physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 03:08 a bit later than that 03:08 but yeah 03:09 currently there are only 2 modes of player monster generation 03:09 having a player monster be kitted with similar things as you have now, on dlvl12, would be a bit mean 03:10 -!- Menche_ has joined #hardfought 03:11 StatueSurfer: use f 03:11 when things are in polearm range 03:11 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:12 it works 03:12 how powerful was that A? 03:12 it was carrying sunsword 03:12 well it was probably an aleax 03:12 yeah it was an aleax 03:12 -!- Menche has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:13 if it was an archon, the only other thing it could be with these items, you would have died 03:13 FIQ: hmm. If you zap a wand of create monster in FIQhack, the monsters it creates are hostile to you, right? Shouldn't, by the logic of full player-monster symmetry, monsters created by hostile monsters with create monster wands be hostile to the zapper, and peaceful or tame to you? :D 03:13 no 03:13 they speed up monster generation 03:13 they merely just create what the level would have created anyway 03:13 just faster 03:13 not all monsters you create are hostile 03:14 hmm 03:14 i now have 3 different sources of reflection 03:17 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:18 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:18 luckily dodging the caitliff penalty for sleeping monsters is fairly easy 03:18 since all you have to do kick near the monster to wake it up 03:18 *to do is kick 03:19 StatueSurfer: I think you can gain another point of str 03:20 yeah it looks like it 03:20 it isn't guranteed beyond 18 03:20 but your str cap is 21 03:21 I suggest taking off your shield of reflection 03:21 for spell trainin 03:21 g 03:21 knights don't have a penalty for a shield 03:22 ok 03:22 also you are still not using autoswap :P 03:24 oh 03:24 failed castings build the skill too? 03:24 o 03:24 no 03:24 because otherwise what i'm seeing makes no sense 03:24 wait 03:24 does it scale by spell difficulty? 03:24 what do you mean 03:25 casting higher-level spells give more skill yes 03:25 like does casting a level 3 spell give more skill xp than a level 1 spell 03:25 okay 03:25 now that makes sense 03:25 use ctrl+a btw 03:25 to cast the same spell 03:25 over and ove 03:25 r 03:25 okay 03:25 also works for resuming activities when you're interrupted 03:26 you should also use autoswap :D 03:26 i.e. you don't need to xchange weapon by hand 03:26 the game will do that for you 03:26 and use 'f' to autofight with polearms 03:26 since your quiver is empty 03:26 (I think?) 03:28 welp breaking for tonight 03:28 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:32 !tell StatueSurfer using ctrl+f (find) to search for magical objects in your game out of curiousity, I found a magical pair of old gloves (non-leather gloves with an additional property too) on dlvl12 for you, there was also a ring a few levels below 03:32 Will do, FIQ! 03:40 You now detect it where the vampire bat was. 03:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 03:46 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 04:04 he double troubled, twice 04:12