00:02 [hdf-us] [fh] tizakit (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 4726 points, T:46, quit 00:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] mtf (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2315 00:40 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 01:17 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:23 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 01:32 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:39 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:41 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:48 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:54 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:56 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 02:01 YANI for aosdict: if you get hit by a fire attack, food in your inventory may get cooked. 02:03 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 02:06 thanks for updating slex, K2! now the quest will work correctly when the player hits a recursion trap :) 02:09 hahaha there was talk about FIQhack becoming slex and in reverse? only if FIQhack implements graphical monster-versus-monster and player-versus-monster foocubus seduction messages! :D 02:19 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:19 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 02:19 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 02:21 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:23 -!- earenndil has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.3+deb1 - http://znc.in] 02:25 -!- earenndil has joined #hardfought 02:29 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 02:40 YANI: carnivorous monsters can eat corpses and other meat when they feel like it, and herbivorous ones can eat fruit and such. Although I guess that would make for easy troll removal. "The goblin eats a troll corpse!" 02:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:46 <@Maurog> The troll then bursts out of the goblin, alien style 02:49 whoa 02:49 that seems a little too intense 02:49 [hdf-us] [nh4] Dagonet (Luxidream) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 244830 points, T:50500, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack4/dumplog/2018-01-15%2007%3A49%3A53%2C%20Dagonet-Kni-Hum-Mal-Law%2C%20ascended.txt 02:50 slow down luxidream 02:50 that 8 or 9? 02:50 luxidream: well done! first non-amy slexcension when? :D 02:50 that says nh4... 02:51 <@luxidream> once there's better documentation for slex 02:52 huh? what part of slex do you feel is not documented well enough? 02:52 <@luxidream> statuesurfer: that is 8 02:52 okay 02:52 all of it most likely 02:52 also, https://abload.de/img/goooooblin7hoqz.png :D 02:52 there's a ton of roles that don't have quest pages on the wiki 02:53 most of the monsters and items are wholly undocumented on the wiki as well 02:53 monsters and items are documented in-game though, and you can see the quests by peeking at the source! 02:53 we tried to add all the monsters to the wiki page and then the wiki broke :D 02:54 <@luxidream> any comprehensive list of all items? 02:54 there's one somewhere on the interwebs 02:54 amy produced one a few weeks ago 02:55 well the slex items page is also out of date :( 02:55 wow 02:56 i think it's safe to say slex has too many items 02:56 once again the source is the most effective way for the player to gain knowledge, by using objects.c to see what items exist and invent.c to see what they do 02:56 and objects.c is almost 400 KB, so... :D 02:57 of course monst.c is topping everything with its 8.4 MB 03:02 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 03:06 <@Khor> 🤔 03:09 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 03:13 hi 03:13 Hello FIQ, Welcome to #hardfought 03:14 hi @Khor 03:23 <@Khor> This is a weird way to comunicate. :v 03:23 in what way is it weird 03:26 there's a way to look up variant data on here isn't there 03:27 what do you mean? 03:27 @d?archon 03:27 Archon (A) | Lvl: 27 | Diff: 33 | Spd: 17 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 77 | Generates: dungeons | AC: -27 | Attacks: 2d4 weapon physical, 2d4 weapon physical, 2d6 gaze blind, 1d8 claw physical, 0d7 cast spell | Alignment: 17 | Flags: flies, regenerates, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravisible 03:27 you mean this? 03:27 yeah 03:27 @le?wonderful lady 03:27 wonderful lady (@) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 15 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 35 | Generates: special | AC: 4 | Attacks: 2d5 weapon physical, 2d6 kick physical | Alignment: -5 | Flags: omnivore, infravisible 03:27 @d?dontbreaktheoath 03:27 No such monster. 03:27 that's not a monster but okay 03:27 it is outdated slex-wise 03:27 oh 03:28 to see whether something is an artifact, you can use the in-game item descriptions (hit an item's corresponding letter while in inventory view) 03:28 Adeon: btw, would be cool if you could update the dnh monlist, it's several versions out of date 03:29 LarienTelrunya: slex has fake artifacts 03:29 "and since ascension is next to impossible" 03:29 and interface screw traps 03:29 well i'm glad to see that's right in there 03:29 and other things that serve to make ingame help useless 03:29 "This is not a real artifact" 03:29 screw off slex 03:30 fake artifact weapons/armors/gems are often highly enchanted, but not necessarily *positively* enchanted; don't wield-test a dagger that turns out to be heavily cursed -9 :D 03:30 @luxidream honestly the thing that makes me stay away from slex isn't the lack of info 03:31 but the sheer amount of things that serve to make your experience not difficult but just majorily frustrating 03:31 <@luxidream> interface screw? 03:31 <@luxidream> I wasn't playing long enough to experience that 03:31 slex has tons of interface screw 03:31 things that makes the screen not refresh properly 03:31 make it impossible to see the inventory 03:32 replaces the statusbar with garbage 03:32 stops printing useful messages 03:32 print an entirely set of new messages to confuse you 03:32 one of my favorites is "puts a checkerboard of gray # on the map that oscillates every turn and obscures 50% of all tiles" :D 03:33 oh and amnesia 03:33 lots and lots of amnesia 03:34 * StatueSurfer starts taking notes 03:34 just kidding 03:34 i don't care that much 03:34 amnesia is a fun game mechanic and shall never be removed! 03:34 and balance changes from vanilla that is generally in the way of "add a small chance to completely fuck you over" 03:34 for example 03:34 "fun" 03:34 for the dev 03:34 to address credit cloning 03:35 oh no... 03:35 what got changed 03:35 slex makes shopkeepers sometimes if you drop gold in their shop, claim ownership of the gold 03:35 whether you ws going to credit clone or just wanted to buy things safely 03:35 sometimes? 03:35 slex also prevents pets from picking up containers unless the container contains no items 03:35 shopkeepers are such greedy pricks it's a miracle they don't claim it all the time 03:36 FIQ: oh, but you can buy things safely in slex, because picking them up doesn't consume a turn! if you have teleportitis, just pay right away and you'll be fine :) 03:36 what 03:36 what if you're not adjacent to the shopkeep 03:37 you can pay as long as you can see the shk 03:42 @luxidream so yeah 03:42 *this* is why I don't play slex 03:42 :) 03:43 <@luxidream> yeah, I really don't like amnesia either 03:43 <@luxidream> even just the lethe water in dnh bothers me 03:43 <@luxidream> because I tend to fall in a lot 03:43 why can piles of coins use items 03:43 that does not make sense 03:43 slex at least has the courtesy of giving you a confirmation if you're about to step into water/lava 03:43 dnh has basically no lether water 03:43 aside from the neutral quest 03:44 but yeah 03:44 I don't like it 03:44 allthough dnh amnesia is nerfed at least 03:44 only affects maps 03:44 StatueSurfer: this is slex, every monster can use items (lichen with the wand of death is a possibility, no joke); better scoop them up before the monsters use them! 03:44 <@luxidream> oh. well I must have gotten amnesia from somewhere else 03:44 <@luxidream> probably that whoever of the myriad glimpses 03:45 [hdf-us] [slex] StatueSurfer (Tou Hum Fem Law), 4539 points, T:1678, killed by a monster (pile of killer gold coins) 03:45 @d?Maite 03:45 Maite ~2~ maid (@) | Lvl: 11 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Attacks: 1d6 weapon physical, 1d6 weapon physical | Alignment: 5 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 03:46 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:46 whoa, didn't realize Pinobot's slex monster list was *that* outdated 03:46 Maite is level 6, speed 18, and has a 6d5 weapon attack, a 6d5 poison kick and a 10d10 poison breath 03:50 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:51 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:57 LarienTelrunya: its dnh monlist is even older 03:57 we should cuddle-bundle Adeon into updating ;) 03:58 I am not going to pester Adeon about it 03:58 more than just pointing out that it's outdated 03:59 I'm not that mean unlike some 04:02 and I see that I'm not alone :Kappa: 04:02 nvm wrong window 04:07 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:10 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 04:20 aosdict: easiest way to implement "incorrect" kills of Nazgul would be to levelport it 04:23 why would "being female" count as an incorrect kill? 04:25 probably lore reasons? I don't know lotr 04:25 <@Maurog> 🙎 04:32 in ToME, nazgul cannot be killed "properly" as long as Sauron is still alive, for he will resurrect them; but I guess in the real lord of the rings it was different 04:33 <@Maurog> It was exactly like that in the real lord of the rings 04:34 oh :) 04:34 <@Maurog> The horses and flying beasts were alive and could be killed, but the nazgul just discorporate and then resurrect again 04:34 so with Sauron dead, they can just be killed like normal people? 04:35 <@Maurog> Case in point when there were owned by the enchanted river 04:36 <@Maurog> Well not exactly, when the one ring was destroyed, all other linked rings in the system lost their power 04:36 <@Maurog> Including the rings that keep the nazgul alive 04:36 ah, yeah, it's like this in ToME actually: as long as the one ring exists, Sauron and all the nazgul are immortal; however, after destroying the ring, the nazgul are still immortal until Sauron is dead 04:38 the game also allows the player to instakill nazgul by using artifacts of light absorption, I don't know if water spells are similarly powerful on them though 04:39 <@Maurog> I think it is implied the witch king nazgul was killed for reals even before the ring was destroyed, with a combination of prophecy power and an enchanted blade specifically forged to fight the nazgul 04:44 hmm, that would mean the barrow blade is really powerful 04:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 04:55 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:56 Evil Patch idea: make a SLEX trading card game, with gameplay similar to Magic The Gathering, Hearthstone or the Pokemon TCG. And it will have interface screw cards, including ones that force your opponent to put on a blindfold, force him to hold his cards in his feet instead of his hands and play that way, or put a 3 second time limit when he gets a turn and if he didn't play a card until then he loses half of his hit po 05:00 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:06 -!- rumflump has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:27 LarienTelrunya: pushed some new fiqhack changes that is sure to make your play more fun :) 05:27 including nerfing levitation on water 05:27 and making player monsters more dangerous 05:27 oh, did you add achievement unlockables before fourk did? :P 05:27 why would I do that 05:27 because it would make it more "fun", of course 05:28 but that seems annoying 05:28 what if I want to not ascend before playing an arc 05:28 yeah exactly :D 05:28 some people have arc as their first ascended role (not me, but some do) 05:29 jonadab: fyi no matter what you should probably disable that feature for junethack, it isn't fair to give people who played 4k outside junethack an unfair advantage 05:29 anyway, what do your beefed up player monsters do? quaff confusion and then read genocide? spam-zap wands of create monster? or be guaranteed to spawn with a wand of lightning and skilled wand skill? 05:29 LarienTelrunya: no 05:29 but they get an astral-like inventory if generated in Gehennom 05:29 whoa 05:29 <@luxidream> oh that’s cool 05:30 <@luxidream> let’s you look for kit items in gehennom 05:30 well your astral plane can be summed up as "X zaps a wand of create monster! Y zaps a wand of create monster! Z zaps a wand of create monster!" etc. etc. 05:30 and in general are more common (I made them able to spawn outside astral in fh already, but due to an oversight, generation was skipped 99% of the time, I changed to 90% now) 05:30 <@luxidream> lets* 05:30 also made them much more likely to generate with object properties 05:30 as in "the game will try 10 times to do so" 05:30 per item 05:31 for weapons/armor (not rings) 05:31 the 99% thing is what caused fh to basically have like 1 player monster at most per game outside astral 05:32 and usually none at all 05:32 <@luxidream> what is their inventory outside gehennom 05:32 FIQ: https://www.reddit.com/r/roguelikes/comments/7qf5p3/what_are_the_best_roguelikes_and_what_makes_them/ 05:33 they get a weapon, 1d3 offensive/defensive/misc items, and (as of FIQHack), 2 rings, and the weapon will likely be generated with a property 05:33 anyway, afk for lunch 05:34 oh, and they also get a bag (in FIQHack): 80% of being a BoH in astral/gehennom, otherwise (20%, or 100% outside these places) a sack 05:34 <@luxidream> clearly, Amy’s link means you should put more cars and zombies in your game FIQ 😛 05:34 @luxidream haha 05:35 not even sure if I'd count C:DDA as a roguelike 05:35 also they will get a random set of trinsics 05:36 both inside and outside Gehennom 05:36 "random set" being the ones players generally get 05:36 <@luxidream> was about to say 05:37 poison res, fire res, cold res, shock res, sleep res, disint res, telepathy, invis, see invis, protection (if they do get protection, they get 2-9 additional AC) 05:37 -!- rumflump has joined #hardfought 05:40 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:40 I also removed the bizarre body armor modifiers several of the roles get in "astral mode" except for monks 05:40 what I mean is 05:40 for example 05:40 all player monsters in vanilla get a random DSM 05:40 nothing wrong with that 05:41 except that some roles get that replaced 05:41 with stuff like chain mail 05:41 or other weirdness 05:41 and monks get no body armor at all 05:41 (which makes sense) 05:41 I removed all of those replacements 05:41 except for monk 05:42 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Player_monster#Equipment.5B2.5D.5B3.5D 06:22 ok so I just discovered an oversight in fiqhack 06:22 so you know how I nerfed generation of wands of create monster? 06:22 well I did a mistake 06:23 it is true that for defensive items, monsters only get create monster wands 11% of the time 06:23 however! 06:23 for offensive items 06:23 if it picks create monster 06:23 it is still 100% 06:24 so generally speaking 06:24 weird that monsters regenerating HP a little more quickly is hall of fame worthy 06:24 since the generation rate of offensive vs defensive items are roughly equal 06:25 the *actual* create monster wand rate is around 55% of how it was in junethack 2016 06:25 before all the nerfs 06:25 LarienTelrunya: the bug existed for 2 years, people kept telling me that monsters generated too fast and I saw no issues 06:26 ok so 06:26 I will make 2 adjustments to create monster wand generation 06:26 I will change offensive generation rate to 25% of current vs 100% like now 06:27 and will change defensive rate from 11% of 2016 to 25% of 2016 06:27 btw FIQ, you'll probably love this commit: https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/7b8476d33a27c4efe808670f4e86af09b6f5b171 06:27 to see what the impact is 06:31 !tell K2 create monster wand generation rate nerfed again! properly this time (maybe?) 06:31 Will do, FIQ! 06:37 LarienTelrunya: if you don't consider it HoF-worthy you can remove it 06:37 I mostly added it to not be called out on removing the FIQHack section :P 06:37 oh, that's the only HoF bug in FIQhack? I'd personally consider the samurai quest genocide bug (the one you fixed) HoF-worthy, but oh well... 06:38 you can replace it if you want to 06:38 I mostly didn't want to remove the section to pretend that fiqhack is less buggy than it is 06:38 just because the mentioned bug there originated in nethackc4 06:40 LarienTelrunya: btw, it was double their true regeneration rate, not "a little bit more quickly" 06:40 and mind you, they used the vanilla player hp regen rate 06:40 yeah but is their natural regeneration rate so high that you'll see a difference? 06:40 which, as you may know, is ridiculously fast latergame 06:40 i.e. 3 HP per turn or so? 06:40 and thus 6 with the bug? 06:41 a player lategame regenerate like 12hp per 3 turns 06:41 or more 06:41 added the genocide thing to the hall of fame; wondering whether the bouncing boulder is HoF too 06:41 monsters would regenerate that amount every turn the player *didn't* 06:41 (since it was inverted) 06:41 and thus would regen twice as fast 06:42 on what was already a fast regen rate 06:42 oh, haha yeah I guess that means you need a high damage output per round or you simply won't be able to kill stuff 06:42 so they could regen like 10hp/turn 06:42 latergame 06:42 on average 06:43 are there healer ascensions in FIQhack? I guess the damage output they usually do in melee isn't very high, so they might be one of the roles that struggled the most 06:43 I think so 06:43 let me check 06:43 -!- aosdict has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:43 19 267216 hothraxxa Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu ascended to demigoddess-hood. 273 [273] 06:44 17 267246 BAD APPLE!! (AP Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu ascended to demigod-hood. 346 [346] 06:44 these are the ones it seems 06:44 on hdf at least 06:45 so apparently it is possible to overcome the monster regen rate ;) 06:45 well, by the time the rate got bad, you probably had your endgame weapon 06:45 and healers have the staff 06:45 but yeah 06:46 I specifically recall hothraxxa saying that a dragon in the mines was regenerating HP rapidly 06:46 as in, much faster than it should 06:46 I chalked it up to the fact that monsters in fiqhack regen HP faster already (which they were supposed to do) 06:46 only after hothraxxa (IIRC) provided actual numbers, it was clear that something was wrong 06:47 because while they were supposed to regen faster 06:47 they weren't supposed to regen *that* fast :P 06:50 heh, that reminds me about the ridiculous scroll of healing bug that slex had, and which was present for way too long until I finally found out what was wrong 06:50 that bug specifically is why I mentioned the HP regen bug 06:51 ah, I see 06:51 !tell aosdict I don't really know how to wikitable. Do you think it would be a good idea to give a better (more accurate) table over how player monster item generation works in vanilla? 06:51 Will do, FIQ! 07:13 !who 07:13 K2: Message from FIQ at 2018-01-15 06:31 EST: create monster wand generation rate nerfed again! properly this time (maybe?) 07:13 K2: [hdf-us] No current players 07:13 K2: [hdf-eu] elenmirie [nd] 07:18 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 07:25 LarienTelrunya: i ascended the first healer in fiqhack with both the hp regen bug and the absurd create monster swarms 07:25 wow, that sounds like the astral plane was ultra annoying, considering all the create monstered stuff will also benefit from the hp regen bug 07:25 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:26 it was hugely annoying 07:26 sorry 07:26 i only survived because i had charm monster 07:26 and as i've said before fiq, no need to apologize 08:01 -!- Announcy has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:01 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:20 Evil Patch Idea: Every time a hostile monster is killed, all other hostile monsters on the level get a full heal and level up. 08:21 jonadab: https://www.reddit.com/r/roguelikes/comments/7qf5p3/what_are_the_best_roguelikes_and_what_makes_them/ 08:23 LarienTelrunya: Yeah, that question is pretty much a FAQ. I'm starting to wish they'd ban anyone who asks it. 08:24 But I don't suppose they can really do that unless the pin a FAQ that answers it. 08:24 And there'd never be agreement on the answer, so. 08:25 yeah but it's basically an invitation for you to show off what your game is like, and why you consider it to be better than the others! 08:27 Same thread every 2-3 days. Gets old. 08:28 heh, I guess ;) 08:28 anyway, gotta leave now; see you! 08:28 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:58 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 09:49 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 09:51 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:53 -!- aosdict_ has joined #hardfought 09:53 -!- aosdict has quit [Client Quit] 09:53 -!- aosdict_ is now known as aosdict 10:36 NetHack 4 updated (us and eu) 10:36 now has improved watchmode that FIQhack has 10:46 [hdf-us] [slex] telegarn (Occ Hum Mal Cha), 25 points, T:42, killed by a monster (spear turret) 11:27 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:30 -!- aosdict_ has joined #hardfought 11:31 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: Quit] 11:31 -!- ThatBenGuy has joined #hardfought 11:55 dammit 11:56 :/ 12:01 -!- bhaak has joined #hardfought 12:02 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 12:14 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 12:35 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 12:36 -!- aosdict has quit [Client Quit] 12:48 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 12:57 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:09 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 13:12 [hdf-us] [nh4] alivenoob (Luxidream) (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 246440 points, T:40209, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack4/dumplog/2018-01-15%2018%3A12%3A11%2C%20alivenoob-Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha%2C%20ascended.txt 13:12 <@riker> grats luxidream 13:12 wait, again? 13:12 <@riker> you gonna stop ascending yet? 13:12 didn't he just ascend? 13:12 <@riker> yes 13:12 he's on crack 13:12 congrats @luxidream 13:12 <@riker> yesterday 13:12 <@riker> *yesterday fiq 13:13 I see that luxidream is taking a leaf from Tariru 13:15 <@luxidream> thanks 13:16 you're on fire Luxidream 13:16 good work 13:16 <@luxidream> autoexplore is so good for speed 13:16 ooh enhanced watchmode is now live for nethack4 13:16 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 13:16 <@luxidream> just wish travel didn't stop at every pile 13:16 jonadab: when are you going to get it? :) 13:17 FIQ: Next time I merge from upstream, probably. 13:17 hmm 13:17 jonadab: why did you cherrypick the water bug fix? 13:17 <[Demo]> make it like dnh travel where sometimes you get in infinite loops and starve to death 13:17 it was done *after* the watchmode stuff... 13:17 <@riker> ^ 13:18 FIQ: There are some commits on NH4 now that are annoying to merge, and I already merged them on bleeding-edge and don't want to do it again on master. 13:18 [Demo]: if only there was a way to interrupt occupations mid-process 13:18 So I cherry-pick stuff that looks important or easy. 13:18 <@riker> !tell Chris_ANG please for the love of god add fiqhack's explore command 13:18 Will do, @riker! 13:18 <[Demo]> heh 13:18 <@luxidream> sometimes you get in loops in NH3 in general 13:18 <@riker> fiq: I've literally starved to death there 13:18 jonadab: so there will be no enhanced watchmode on 4k until .5 13:18 <@riker> I started weak, tried to move like 10 squares, then fainted -> death 13:18 got it 13:18 FIQ: Possibly. 13:18 <@riker> you can't freaking break free 13:19 FIQ: That _might_ be worth cherry-picking. 13:19 If it's not too hard. 13:19 @luxidream so what's next on your list to ascend? 13:19 those are the "annoying to merge" commits I think... 13:19 Now that it's live on NH4, the list of commits should be possible to figure. 13:19 FIQ: No. 13:19 The annoying-to-merge commits are from before that. 13:19 oh, chanelization stuff? 13:19 *channelization 13:19 No. 13:19 That's merged. 13:19 there was a merge related to teleport.c there 13:19 <@luxidream> K2: you mean variants? 13:19 that I've had to merge 13:19 like 5 times 13:20 no i mean for nh4 13:20 Oh, it was a globals purge installment, I think. 13:20 @luxidream must be nice to not be constantly pounded with spells and item use shenanigans huh 13:20 <@luxidream> like I said it is very nice 13:20 <@luxidream> probably tou 13:20 <@luxidream> or arc 13:21 tou is nice 13:21 <@riker> tou quest artifact is the second best one imo 13:21 <@riker> in vanilla 13:21 <@riker> I've always liked the orb of fate though 13:21 if you decide to do arc, dont do human lawful please :) i'm trying to be 1st to ascend one and i am almost there (in orcustown) 13:22 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 13:22 <@luxidream> I'm bad at arc 13:22 <@luxidream> but okay 13:22 <@riker> ascend dnh valk 13:22 <@luxidream> isn't @mtf doing that 13:23 <@riker> dont think so 13:23 <@mtf> lol yes 13:23 just a request, dont have to honor it if you dont want to 13:23 <@riker> oh really? 13:23 <@riker> I didn't know it was valk 13:23 <@riker> dnh valk is so dumb too lol 13:23 <@mtf> yea I just started a dwarf valk 13:23 <@mtf> is that bad? 13:23 <@mtf> lol 13:23 <@riker> niceeee 13:23 <@riker> nah 13:23 <@riker> you get a cold-balsting bow, fire-blasting sword, and mjollnir guarenteed 13:23 <@riker> not counting the rod of seven parts from teh law quest 13:23 <@luxidream> I want to do dwa noble again.made it to gehennom last time but woefully underprepared due to underestimating it 13:24 <@riker> dwarf noble is fun 13:24 <@riker> kinda lame crowning gift 13:24 <@mtf> I'm underestimating everything so far 13:24 <@riker> kek 13:24 <@mtf> part of me wants to just go in with my FH knowledge and nothing else 13:24 <@riker> are you on hdf? 13:24 <@mtf> but the other part of me knows that I will die a fiery death 13:24 <@riker> lol 13:24 <@mtf> if I do 13:24 dnh gehennom plays on the premise that neither you or the demon lords is going to play fair 13:24 <@luxidream> use spoilers 13:24 <@riker> hm, do dorf valks get expert axe? 13:24 <@mtf> yea I'm on hdf-US 13:24 <@riker> idr 13:24 there are EPI-worthy things of them 13:24 <@riker> if they do you should realyl wish limited moon 13:24 but dnh has so much ridiculous things 13:25 <@riker> i know, I know, artifact wishing meta etc 13:25 that you can deal with it anyway if you know what you're doing 13:25 <@riker> but it's so broken and hdf doesn't have the patch yet 13:25 d is balanced around the "everything is OP, but so is the player" premise. 13:25 <@luxidream> was ogresmasher nerfed yet 13:25 <@riker> nope 13:25 <@mtf> jona: makes sense, and sounsd fun 13:25 So you _have_ to become OP, to finish it. 13:25 hah orcus never used his WoD 13:25 0:8 13:25 <[Demo]> wow 13:25 K2: nice 13:25 <@riker> jonadab: or you can just abuse the shit out of things 13:25 jonadab: nah 13:25 <@riker> see: segfault gun 13:25 <@mtf> can I get artifact armor in dn 13:25 that's just if you want style points for killing demon lords 13:25 <@riker> yes 13:26 <@riker> are you lawful? 13:26 <@mtf> yup 13:26