00:00 I can't get him off the square 00:00 ayy 00:00 I might end up chasing him all the way to the top 00:03 You never learned to swim! (Use the 'moveonly' command to move there anyway.) 00:03 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Kni Dwa Fem Law) became the Hand of Elbereth, on T:13980 00:03 oops 00:03 ... I wasn't on an altar 00:03 How did that happen? 00:03 so much quasit action this game 00:03 you don't have to be on an altar 00:03 The beam bounces off the stairs and hits the ceiling. 00:03 Frag 00:04 it's just that being on an altar significantly increases the odds 00:04 rip 00:04 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 69804 points, T:13981, killed by Ixoth 00:04 rip 00:04 you made a player monster :O 00:04 but he was on the quest 00:04 StatueSurfer, no, in vanilla, it is impossibnle to be crowned off an atlar, the roll is capped so it can't go that high 00:04 that should be no bones allowed 00:04 ah 00:05 StatueSurfer, it wasn't on the bottom level 00:05 That's going to be a fun bones file 00:05 it said the wizard laughs! 00:05 Since Ixoth is going to be there 00:05 -!- StatueSurfer_ has joined #hardfought 00:06 Honestly, if I had known the floor was undiggable 00:06 I would have survived that 00:06 :( 00:06 it's not DCSS, so you can't wield bread right before dying to ensure a crappy playermonster 00:06 never played DCSS 00:07 I've been tempted to try ADOM 00:07 But I'm a little "eh" on it 00:07 right 00:07 too much nethack left to fool around with 00:07 adom later 00:07 rumflump, eh, nethack doesn't usually surprise me anymore. At least vanilla doesn't. 00:08 won em all? 00:08 Too much source reading 00:08 I figure I'll lose interest in getting better at nethack after I ascend all 00:08 And vanilla gets cheap. FIQHack at least I usually feel my deaths at pilot error. I think I only had one death that was flat out RNG evil 00:08 not stop playing, but stop caring much 00:09 rumflump, I've ascended three times. Priest, Valk, and Samuari 00:09 in FIQ, 361-dev, and 343 respectively 00:09 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:09 chop chop 00:09 it does remind me why I find DF A mode so unsatisifying though 00:10 I got a 4k val and a 3.6.devnull tourist 00:10 what's that reason? 00:11 !tell FIQ knight died to Ixoth, left a really nasty bones file + palyer monster. Feel bad for the next knight who has to deal with Ixoth and a decently kitted knight 00:11 Will do, NCommander! 00:11 wait the quest levels allow for bones 00:11 -!- StatueSurfer_ is now known as StatueSurfer 00:11 It left a bones because it wasn't the bottom level 00:11 and I was chasing Ixoth up the branch 00:12 Needless to say 00:12 I'm not rolling Knight for awhile 00:12 someone else I can deal with that bones 00:12 you should've made sure to get teleportitis 00:12 Yeah 00:13 happy zombie baby jesus day 00:14 how can you type in multiple colors 00:14 ~hacker~ 00:14 StatueSurfer, control codes 00:14 <[Demo]> 13h 05a my discord kills them all 00:15 control codes 00:15 ESP definitely makes the mines a lot safer 00:15 3test 00:15 Hrm 00:16 3test 00:16 There we go 00:16 yeah but you can't triforce 00:16 Not w/o spam no 00:16 Yeah, i've been thinking of trying ADOM, but tha tfeels like a massive timesink for one 00:17 * NCommander also dislikes games that are closed source, though I tolerate it for DF and a small handful of commerical ones. 00:18 DoomRL though got opened up last year, been meaning to play that for awhile 00:18 it's really good 00:18 doomrl, brogue, and to a lesser extent dcss are completable in one sitting 00:19 whether you git gud or die fast :P 00:19 good nethack breaks 00:19 adom feels like more of the same kinda thing, with confusing differences scattered in it 00:19 wonder if their wiki is as good as ours 00:23 rumflump, it's not. ADOM, being closed source, has very little definitant numbers and such. 00:24 DCSS is designed to be winnable w/o spoilers so it can live w/ weak wiki (I haven't played it or looked though) 00:27 brogue does spoilerless play better imo 00:28 and yeah, dcss wiki is awful - better off doing /query Sequell ??foo 00:28 * NCommander admits he would have likely never got into nethack seriously w/o spoilers 00:28 agreed 00:32 my largest problem with nethack is a LOT of the essential behaviors are incredibly uninutive 00:32 Altar checking for BUC, holy water production, and quite a few others 00:45 I really should sleep 00:47 likewise 00:48 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 00:54 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 01:06 -!- puck1 has joined #hardfought 01:11 -!- puck1 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0-dev] 01:12 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:12 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 01:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 01:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] flump (Brd Hlf Fem Cha), 87872 points, T:37278, quit 01:16 oops 01:17 too sleepy V_V 01:17 did you quit by mistake? 01:17 yep 01:17 :( 01:17 time for bed! 01:18 for some reason I thought q would abort the prompt. needed n :P 01:18 gak 01:21 hm, I think FIQ explained how to "un-quit" a game though awhile back. have to do it locally of course. will investigate tomorrow 01:22 some minor change to your dump or ttyrec or something 01:22 ooh, that's something 01:37 yasi: god will gift you an artifact if you play tomorrow during christmas 02:02 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:18 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 02:23 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 02:26 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 02:38 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:22 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:24 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 03:41 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:57 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:59 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 04:01 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 04:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 04:05 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 04:17 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:25 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:26 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 04:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 04:54 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 04:59 -!- Grassy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:59 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 04:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 05:04 [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 670 points, T:956, killed by a dwarvish lord 05:12 -!- rumflump has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:23 !tell K2 I got a weird crash on hdf-eu: https://abload.de/img/weirdcorruptionj5qyc.png - is there a core dump that can be analyzed in the slex folder? 05:23 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 05:28 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:35 [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 810 points, T:1448, killed by a dwarvish lord 05:41 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 05:43 -!- rumflump has joined #hardfought 05:44 rumflump: only works in NH4 saves 05:44 FIQ: Message from NCommander at 2017-12-25 00:11 EST: knight died to Ixoth, left a really nasty bones file + palyer monster. Feel bad for the next knight who has to deal with Ixoth and a decently kitted knight 05:44 on first line, replace done with save 05:45 then remove all lines on the bottom starting from Q 05:46 !tell NCommander You can leave bones on the quest goal..? 05:46 Will do, FIQ! 05:57 !who 05:57 FIQ: [hdf-us] phollenback [fh] arnibald [gh] 05:57 FIQ: [hdf-eu] No current players 06:12 [hdf-us] [nd] knavery (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 3639 points, T:5219, killed by a mumak, while sleeping off a magical draught 07:01 !tell NCommander btw, you can't dig down on stairs 07:01 Will do, FIQ! 07:06 -!- puck1 has joined #hardfought 07:14 FIQ phasing in wiz tower fix is uploaded? 07:15 On hardfought 07:20 -!- aoei has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:25 got extremely easy sanctum 07:25 No one created monsters 07:29 nice 07:29 don't know if fh is updated on server 07:29 not really an important fix 07:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:37 -!- Grassy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:02 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:03 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 08:17 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:26 !tell StatueSurfer I would probably just remove her stoning resistance. It's actually easier to stone her the mythological way than it is to finagle a c corpse. 08:26 Will do, aosdict! 08:33 Are altars on astral level placed randomly? 08:34 Im for the 3d time in astral and lawful altar alwas to the left 08:35 <[Demo]> Yeah it's random 08:35 FIQ: you can confirm what in fh this is doesnt changed? 08:36 not changed 08:36 So this is just coincidence 08:36 Okay 08:41 uh-oh 08:41 <[Demo]> well puck 08:41 <[Demo]> is he on Astral? 08:41 Yes 08:41 I had 5 amulets of lifesaving 08:41 Now 4 08:41 <[Demo]> Oh good, a safe setup 08:42 Found 3 in astral 08:42 Is some one watching? Go up or right? :) 08:42 -!- K2 changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on website ¤ Public NetHack server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org or nethack@eu.hardfought.org ¤ Merry Christmas!! 08:43 morning 08:43 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2017-12-25 05:23 EST: I got a weird crash on hdf-eu: https://abload.de/img/weirdcorruptionj5qyc.png - is there a core dump that can be analyzed in the slex folder? 08:45 dafuk 08:45 Same altar order as in all my previous games 08:45 Always neutral in center, lawful to the left 08:46 dumb luck 08:46 unless this is fiqhack... FIQ did you hard code the altar order? :) 08:46 no 08:46 why would I do that 08:47 Fun center of center astral coridor was blocked with boulder 08:47 Now all monsters left behind boulder 08:47 But not meeee! 08:47 Whole right half of map is monsterless 08:47 1 in 216 chance 08:47 that's high enough that it's going ot happen to somebody 08:48 !tell LarienTelrunya no core dump exists to check 08:48 Will do, K2! 08:48 what did you do, count puck1's asc amount? 08:48 https://scoreboard.xd.cm/ascended.fh.html 08:49 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mtf/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-12-14%2005%3A34%3A54%2C%20blah-Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha%2C%20ascended.txt 08:49 i should have said it like this - FIQ did you hard code the altar order? :) 08:49 FIQ: 1 in 6 chance of a particular altar order 08:49 chaotic altar in the middle 08:49 merry christmas all 08:49 if you don't care about it being lawful/neutral/chaotic specifically, it's a 1 in 36 chance of getting the same altar order three games in a row 08:49 Merry Christmas! 08:50 just finished opening presents... well more like watching my kid open gifts 08:50 kid is very happy :P 08:51 ais523: K2 would you find it silly to have "view other people's games" in the fh main menu? 08:51 Wait. 08:51 Ah 08:51 Uh 08:51 basically duplicating dgl's watchlist without requiring dgl modifications 08:51 puck1: ? 08:51 You giving gifts 25.12.. 08:51 ah 08:51 FIQ: what do you mean by "main menu" here? the menu that shows when you load the FIQHack executable? 08:51 yeah some countries do 08:51 we celebrate on Christmas Eve 08:51 We 31.12 08:52 yesterday 08:52 in that case, it's not silly in concept or UI but you may have some trouble making it make sense in local play 08:52 FIQ: why wand of speed monster doesnt cures "slow"? 08:52 FIQ: i dont see any issue with that, it would be cool actually 08:52 ais523: ifdef PUBLIC_SERVER 08:52 <[Demo]> America usually does it 12-25 but like some people do it the day before apparently and that's weird 08:52 and yeah its xmas day, of course theres gifts :P 08:52 but it would mean fiqhack needs some way to know where to look for other users 08:53 we do some gifts xmas eve, and then stockings and other gifts for the kids xmas morning 08:53 cuz you know, santa came during the night to leave presents 08:53 FIQ: I think you should go as far as ifdef DGAMELAUNCH 08:53 if you're going to be messing around for dgl support, may as well go all the way 08:53 ais523: True I suppose 08:54 Im finally on my altar! 08:54 \o/ 08:54 I have 3 wishes 08:54 now let's just hope you still have the amulet :-P 08:54 its a christmas miracle 08:54 I'd just ascend without spending them 08:54 if you can win, do so 08:54 I have amulet and it is cursed 08:54 No big problem 08:55 wish for a blessed figurine of a woodchuck named carl 08:55 I saw someone once use 5 wishes before ascending 08:55 I didnt get this joke about woodchunck.. 08:55 for the candelabrum of invocation, bell of opening, book of the dead, amulet of yendor, wand of wishing 08:55 FIQ: I spend 2 another wishes for markers just for fun 08:56 heh 08:56 In other stage of game 08:56 So 08:56 Hm 08:56 ais523: I've considered sometimes to generate +wish once you are on your coaligned astral altar. Main reason I didn't is that it would screw with scoring 08:57 IMO that would work better if you could backtrack from the Planes 08:58 puck1 :) 08:59 Can I sacrifice at high altar? 09:00 if it's your own altar, yes, but only from inventory 09:00 also don't sacrifice anything that would offend the god 09:00 god anger is much worse on Astral 09:00 *god wrath 09:00 Im chaotic I dunno what sacrifice fould offend hik 09:00 him 09:01 a black unicorn 09:01 right, don't sacrifice coaligned unicorns 09:02 <[Demo]> give wands of wishing value 09:02 <[Demo]> when totalling end score after ascending 09:02 Wait 09:03 it already has value 09:03 Can I polymorph into ant 09:03 you could have an item that's wishable and its only purpose is to improve score, perhaps? 09:03 And ascend? 09:03 <[Demo]> how much value 09:03 puck1: there are certainly polyforms which can be ascended with, I'm not sure if that applies to all polyforms or not 09:03 <[Demo]> make it worth whatever the value of the biggest wish you could make is worth 09:03 <[Demo]> per charge 09:04 well, butts 09:04 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 09:04 Sooo 09:04 Hmm 09:05 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:05 I want to wish........ 09:05 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 09:05 with NH4 diminishing returns, though, the best wish in terms of scoring depends on what you already have 09:05 Okay 09:05 e.g. it might be 5000 gold, some number of dilithium crystals, or even an unidentified item 09:06 I dunno. I dont want to bump score as I can. I left all valuebles in dungeon 09:09 invisible stalkers are humanoids? 09:09 In wiki there is no metion about this, so I guess no 09:09 But 09:09 think so 09:09 In tiles they look like humanoids 09:10 they are humanoids 09:10 <[Demo]> they are also blind and stunned 09:10 > https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Humanoid 09:11 Here is no stalkers 09:11 > https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Stalker 09:11 why would they be blind 09:11 they can see invisible 09:11 And here is no mention about their hands, legs etc 09:11 <[Demo]> cause they have no eyes 09:11 <[Demo]> maybe dnh stalkers are changed but i dont think those were touched 09:12 <[Demo]> dont have vanilla open rn 09:12 why are they marked see invis 09:12 if they can't see 09:12 makes no sense 09:12 <[Demo]> cause what if they get monk quest arti 09:12 lol 09:12 they're not humanoids like dwarves, hobbits etcetera 09:12 they're E (sort of elementals) 09:13 in fact the only E you can genocide 09:13 <[Demo]> "the +0 Sunsword (weapon in swirl)" 09:15 so 09:15 They CAN wear amulet 09:15 And cant wear armor 09:15 Hm 09:16 uh 09:16 I cant decide what to wish 09:17 Ill wish for money 09:17 =( 09:17 <[Demo]> sometimes i dont even bother wishing 09:17 <[Demo]> thats actually most of the time 09:17 <[Demo]> cause either i dont care about score or i care about score enough that a few wishes arent gonna make any notable impact 09:19 !who 09:19 K2: [hdf-us] groovejumper [dyn] k2 [sp] 09:19 K2: [hdf-eu] puck [fh] 09:22 So 09:22 Im taking a selfy 09:22 heh 09:22 done 09:24 > soldiers (extinct) 09:24 Lol 09:24 FIIQ, there is a bug!!! 09:24 > You genocided 1 type of monster, starting on turn 0. 09:24 Its not me 09:24 Its some one in astral genocided Yellow dragons 09:25 on turn 0, too! 09:26 Yeah 09:26 * raisse casts a disbelieve spell 09:26 * puck1 disbelieves 09:27 that was easy, you already disbelieved :-) 09:28 google translate en -> ru -> en: disbelieves -> верует -> believes 09:28 lol 09:31 <[Demo]> "You burn a heavy iron ball out of the air!" poor arsenal 09:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo3 (Ana Hum Fem Neu) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:18292 09:38 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:38 congrats puck1!! 09:38 xmas ascension 09:39 Thx! 09:41 !tell FIQ if monster genocides someone, that will break player genocideless conduct and turn on which conduct was breaken will be always 0 09:41 Will do, puck1! 09:51 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 09:54 <[Demo]> is anyone really good at dnh ana lightsabres? 10:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo3 (Ana Hum Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed +5 fixed shield of the resolute heart", on T:19390 10:01 !role 10:01 NCommander: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-25 05:46 EST: You can leave bones on the quest goal..? 10:01 NCommander: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-25 07:01 EST: btw, you can't dig down on stairs 10:01 NCommander: grunt valkyrie 10:01 !role 10:02 puck1, I ran into your previous bones :P 10:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo3 (Ana Hum Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:19466 10:03 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Quit: Wink, Wink, nudge, nudge. Know what I mean?] 10:06 any chance of christmas miracles for the dnh game I managed to #quit by accident last night?? 10:09 don't play sleepy 10:10 noooo 10:21 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 10:24 NCommander: I wanted to say this to you on reddit but 10:25 I forgot and saying now 10:25 I ascended 1hour ago 10:25 With your colak of magic resistance! 10:25 Thanks, NCommander! 10:27 -!- zxkuqyb has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:29 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 10:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 10:30 puck1, you got my bones? I left them in the Knight quest branch 10:30 with a second Ixoth 10:30 Ill check replay now 10:30 * NCommander isn't sure which bones you're referring 10:30 I found bones of NCommander in some maze 10:30 OH 10:31 Directly under medusa? 10:31 Yeah, I think 10:31 That was a ranger I blew up ages ago 10:31 Deep bonefiles are often rewarding. They're incredibly terrorifying in FIQHack too 10:32 How long time ago you left those bones? 10:33 , NCommander 10:37 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 10:37 [hdf-us] [un] krm26 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1363 points, T:1493, killed by a gnome lord 10:45 -!- puck1 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:57 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:05 rumflump: since the vast majority of games I start are wizmoding for testing something, I'm now terrified of #quitting an actual game. 11:07 [hdf-us] [un] krm26 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 120 points, T:651, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:08 [hdf-us] [un] krm26 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:15 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 11:19 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 45679 points, T:7036, killed by a lynx 11:19 :( 11:19 puca few weeks 11:20 er, puck1 11:24 -!- zxkuqyb has joined #hardfought 11:27 !tell K2 pushed an update: genocide/extinction list now seperate between things you and monsters genocided, and the genocide conduct description was fixed 11:27 FIQ: Message from puck1 at 2017-12-25 09:41 EST: if monster genocides someone, that will break player genocideless conduct and turn on which conduct was breaken will be always 0 11:27 Will do, FIQ! 11:28 "2 species genocided by you, 3 by monsters" 11:28 NCommander: ouch 11:29 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 11:29 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-25 11:27 EST: pushed an update: genocide/extinction list now seperate between things you and monsters genocided, and the genocide conduct description was fixed 11:32 NCommander: iirc certain uniques are removed on bones creation 11:32 not sure though 11:32 Wizard of Yendor comes to mind 11:35 FIQ, usually it gets replaced with something else, but I left a still living bones which are always nasty esp if they have MR and reflection 11:35 :) 11:35 oh sure the bones is nasty either way 11:35 but I don't think Ixoth will stay around 11:35 also NCommander 11:36 you left a wand of wishing 11:36 the late bones player will use it 11:38 FIQ, I swear, between Ludios and the WoW, the only times I really die is when I get a string of good luck 11:38 "Fort inaccessible, fixed. Game generates no vaults. Found a wand of wishing. Game destroys me in fun ways" 11:38 heh 11:39 so I guess in fiqhack artifacts are better things to find in bones than WoWs 11:39 aosdict, sorta. Finding stormbringer when you have orcrist + sting is depressing 11:39 I had that happen in Vanilla. Fortunately, I hadn't named orcrist in that specific game, so I sacced for it so I could use Stormbringer 11:39 >.>; 11:39 That was backwards to say the least 11:40 You know... the fiqhack create-a-player-monster bones change shouldn't be too hard to add to 3.6.1... 11:40 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 11:40 Just, they won't be nearly as resourceful. 11:40 Or have intrinsics or whatever. 11:42 aosdict, I'd be willing to write a patch for that bit of evil 11:43 aosdict, (I actually wonder how hard porting over the FIQhack AI to vanilla would be) 11:43 the proper way is to do an AI rewrite, which I plan to do 11:43 most of the notable changes aren't i pathfinding but in item use 11:43 e.g. muse 11:43 .c 11:43 *in 11:44 what should a player monster wish for 11:44 NCommander: well, patches / pull requests will be accepted for xnethack :) 11:44 xnethack? 11:44 it just striked me that they will wish for their quest arti 11:44 which makes sense 11:44 FIQ, they'll use wands of wishing? 11:44 but not if it already exists 11:44 That's really evil :( 11:44 so there should be a sane fallback 11:44 FIQ, I just checked vanillas code, I found the code that replaces the unique artifacts, but none that changes the monster. 11:44 perhaps I could just add geno 11:44 as fallback 11:44 that is what Rodney uses 11:44 xnethack is my 3.6.1-dev variant in early stages 11:45 FIQ, oh, Rodney is MONSTER_DEFUNCT? 11:45 no 11:45 I mean "rodney wishes for geno" 11:45 anyway as for your code diving 11:45 bones.c 11:45 give me a moment 11:45 aosdict, if I remember correctly, the base adventurer classes exist as monsters that are never randomly generated expect on astral, so it's mostly a matter of spawning in a monster where the player was, setting the name, and then has the inventory 11:45 Yes. 11:45 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 11:46 NCommander: u.ugrave_arise 11:47 compare the vanilla code there 11:47 starting from if (u.ugrave_arise == (NON_PM - 1)) { 11:47 with fiqhack's code 11:47 one sec 11:47 -!- rikersan has quit [Client Quit] 11:47 http://home.fiq.se/bones.c 11:48 fiqhack's bones 11:48 search for "Rodney" 11:48 to find the relevant code in fiqhack 11:49 the else there 11:49 is the charm stuff 11:49 player monster creation 11:49 * NCommander wonders when NH 3.6.1 will actually ship 11:50 and then the if (mtmp) below it 11:50 has been modified in fiqhack 11:50 [hdf-us] [slex] Tiroq (Tha Bre Mal Cha), 897 points, T:863, killed by an elven arrow 11:50 to give trinsics, etc 11:50 Honestly, if I do any major NH hacking though 11:51 actually that property thing is outdated 11:51 it assumes fiqhack's older monster properties 11:51 that was just a bitfield 11:51 It will be to implement the Regenade class who starts w/ the bell of opening, is unaligned (so no intelligent artifact use), and going to get the amulet to destroy all four high altars. 11:51 now i can just copy mintrinsic straight 11:51 let's do that 11:58 * NCommander is back 11:59 But the way my notes say Regenade would work is the player is Unaligned, but Moloch is always angry so they loose #pray. They start with the bell of opening, and can reach expert in all classes, and are regularly ambushed by player monsters with parts of an ascension kit and artifacts 12:01 NCommander: btw 12:02