00:34 [hdf-us] [sp] winny (Val Dwa Fem Law), 118 points, T:621, killed by a bolt of fire 00:40 -!- kkk420 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:42 -!- kkk420 has joined #hardfought 00:46 -!- kkk420 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:46 -!- kkk420 has joined #hardfought 00:47 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Disconnected] 00:56 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 00:58 so sporkhack, how do i go downstairs if the downstairs is surrounded by iron bars with a troll in it 00:58 -!- Jonathanhanes has quit [Quit: vanishes] 01:00 -!- kkk420 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00 -!- kkk420 has joined #hardfought 01:02 -!- kkk420 has quit [Client Quit] 01:02 -!- kkk420 has joined #hardfought 01:04 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 01:18 [hdf-us] [sp] winny (Ran Gno Fem Cha), 448 points, T:1107, burned by molten lava 01:23 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:37 [hdf-us] [sp] winny (Mon Dwa Mal Neu), 1232 points, T:1214, quit 01:41 -!- kkk420 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:45 !who 01:45 K2: [hdf-us] winny [sp] k2 [sp] DrakeMarshall [dnh] 01:45 K2: [hdf-eu] No current players 01:52 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:55 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 01:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 02:03 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:07 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Raisse suddenly disappears!] 02:07 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 02:10 -!- Tarmunora_ has joined #hardfought 02:12 [hdf-us] [sp] winny (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1270 points, T:1169, killed by a wand 02:13 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:13 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 02:16 [hdf-us] [un] winny (Kni Hum Mal Law) shouted "horse", on T:497 02:24 [hdf-us] [un] winny (Kni Hum Mal Law) shouted "FUCK THIS CHICKEN SHIT OUTFIT", on T:1213 02:29 [hdf-us] [un] winny (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1714 points, T:1582, killed by a giant bat 02:30 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 02:48 You finish eating the tengu corpse. You feel in control of yourself. 02:48 rolled the dice and won woooo 02:50 \o/ 03:21 leprechaun with a wand of lightning 03:25 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:29 bleh 03:30 ok bedtime. gnite! 03:42 !tell StatueSurfer test 03:42 Will do, StatueSurfer! 03:42 . 03:42 StatueSurfer: Message from StatueSurfer at 2017-12-24 03:42 EST: test 03:42 okay 03:45 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 03:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] DrakeMarshall (Bin Clk Mal Non) killed Axus, on T:168817 04:10 morning 04:10 !who 04:10 FIQ: [hdf-us] phollenback [fh] 04:10 FIQ: [hdf-eu] elenmirie [nd] 04:10 cool 04:18 hm 04:19 !who 04:19 FIQ: [hdf-us] phollenback [fh] 04:19 FIQ: [hdf-eu] elenmirie [nd] 04:19 K2: seems like your compression crontab strikes again :P 04:19 phollenback isn't in watchlist heh 04:31 [hdf-us] [fh] Rambunctious Playtester (StatueSurfer) (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 25569 points, T:1004, quit 04:32 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:33 !tell StatueSurfer nothing to do with fh, just that k2 gzips people's ttyrecs while they are still playing, leading to issues in dgl 04:33 Will do, FIQ! 05:40 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:43 !whereis phollenback 05:43 FIQ: [hdf-us] phollenback [fh]: (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) T:9944 The Gnomish Mines level: 7 05:54 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 06:37 giant bats vs elenmirie 1- 06:37 0 06:45 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Raisse suddenly disappears!] 06:45 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 06:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v theRaisse] by ChanServ 06:51 [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had long sword named Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:4520 06:55 -!- Announcy has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:12 I think this was the SAME leprechaun with a wand of lightning that got me earlier 07:47 -!- puck1 has joined #hardfought 07:51 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 08:12 !tell StatueSurfer Medusa does indeed have MR_STONE, but she also had it in 3.4.3. Perhaps the code path that handles stoning gaze attacks simply ignores this resistance. 08:12 Will do, aosdict! 08:15 -!- gamache has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:16 -!- rumflump has joined #hardfought 08:17 -!- puck1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:30 right, now let's go slay some giants! 08:36 Merry Christmas, guys and girls 08:37 Merry Christmas to you too! 08:45 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:02 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 09:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v theRaisse] by ChanServ 09:02 [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had mace bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:10873 09:02 <[Demo]> get maced 09:03 [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 10522 points, T:10877, killed by a jaguar 09:20 <[Demo]> my knowledge of magic mapping is growing faint as a fh crowned arc 09:24 [hdf-us] [fh] tsigoloehcra (Demo) (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed spellbook of charm monster", on T:29887 09:35 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 09:39 -!- puck1 has joined #hardfought 09:39 -!- aoei has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:54 <[Demo]> BUC on potion of wonder matter? 09:55 yes 09:55 cursed = removes attribute, uncursed = gives, blessed = gives but doesn't duplicate existing attribute 10:03 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 10:07 <[Demo]> ah 10:09 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:13 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 10:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 10:13 <[Demo]> is fh vibrating square a trap? 10:13 yes 10:14 <[Demo]> nice 10:15 <[Demo]> anything I should know about endgame run? 10:16 yes 10:16 save your blessed speed potions 10:18 !tell K2 pushed some fixes 10:18 Will do, FIQ! 10:19 including a fix to crowned spells giving misleading messages 10:28 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 10:34 <[Demo]> uh oh 10:48 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:48 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 10:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 10:49 [hdf-us] [un] krm26 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2437 points, T:1802, killed by a wand 10:58 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 10:58 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:58 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 11:29 -!- nht has joined #hardfought 11:40 -!- Tiroq has joined #hardfought 11:41 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:42 ?help[ 11:44 -!- Tiroq has quit [Client Quit] 11:47 -!- nht has quit [Quit: nht] 11:54 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:55 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:58 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 11:59 -!- bouquet has quit [Client Quit] 12:09 -!- rumflump has quit [Quit: rumflump] 12:09 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:11 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 12:11 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 12:16 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 13:03 -!- rumflump has joined #hardfought 13:25 -!- scott_ has joined #hardfought 13:26 -!- scott_ is now known as bouquet 13:27 -!- bouquet has quit [Client Quit] 13:28 puck1: you around? 13:28 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 13:33 !who 13:33 Tarmunora_: [hdf-us] groovejumper [dyn] NCommander [fh] krm26 [un] 13:33 Tarmunora_: [hdf-eu] puck [fh] elenmirie [nd] 13:37 oh 13:37 that's nasty 13:37 Polymorph trap in the big room 13:48 in my nao pacifist I was happy seeing that 13:49 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:56 FIQ, yeah, Im here 13:56 Was afk 13:56 [hdf-us] [nd] elfquest (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 18 points, T:108, killed by a water moccasin 13:58 puck1: ok 13:58 can you do the following 13:58 save your game and quit back to dgamelaunch 13:58 Done 13:58 then start up fiqhack again 13:58 Done 13:58 and load your saves that broke on death 13:59 Done 13:59 thanks 13:59 now feel free to continue 13:59 Wow got top 1 with that las sawe 13:59 Thx for fixes! 13:59 fiqhack was downgraded on eu 13:59 last save* 13:59 FIQ: =(((9 13:59 and a fix was applied 14:00 to resolve your games 14:00 And now I playing not last version of game? 14:00 !tell K2 all clear, you can update fh now 14:00 Will do, FIQ! 14:00 puck1: correct, but it should be ok 14:00 there is no major bugs in it 14:00 hey K2 is here 14:00 ok great 14:00 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-24 10:18 EST: pushed some fixes 14:00 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-24 14:00 EST: all clear, you can update fh now 14:00 so you don't need to go on 14:00 just exit back to dgl 14:00 done 14:01 and wait for K2 to update 14:01 Ookkaay 14:01 (he is fast :P) 14:03 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 14:03 puck1: ^ 14:04 Nice! 14:04 All works 14:04 thx! 14:09 \o/ 14:09 [hdf-us] [un] krm26 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1560 points, T:2713, killed by a water moccasin 14:09 <--- cleans ice and snow off truck, goes to store, comes back, wife says oh hey we also need milk 14:10 brb :) 14:10 Figures 14:10 First unattended atlar I find is on Dl:17 14:10 and I'm cut off from the upper dungeon 14:18 Well 14:18 that's something 14:18 green dragon died and left scales 14:18 Guess I have my next piece of armor 14:18 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 14:25 You feel the power of Lugh increase. The altar glows white. 14:25 YES 14:25 finally 14:25 a coaligned altar 14:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo3 (Ana Inc Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1984 14:29 !whereis NCommander 14:29 FIQ: [hdf-us] NCommander [fh]: (Kni Dwa Fem Law) T:5950 The Quest level: 12 14:30 ahh 14:30 dwarven knight 14:30 FIQ, the first altar I found that I could safely convert was on Dl:16, and I'm cut off between the upper dungeon and the lower by a very nasty big room. 14:30 level teleporters? 14:32 FIQ, jumped into one intentionally to escape the big room, there's a poly trap in the same room :( 14:33 FIQ, I'm feeling slightly more confident in my AC situation. Cancelation does wonderful things to non-MR dragons 14:33 yep 14:33 I have no problems with making cancel more useful 14:34 First time I've ever made GrDSM though 14:34 Though given I haven't even managed posion resistance yet 14:34 This game has gone oddly 14:34 I need to get back to the upper dungeon and clear sokoban and mine's end 14:39 FIQ, bug, if the steed you're riding is engulfed, it causes an impossible() 14:39 mxy and muxy is equal? 14:40 FIQ, can't place steed location 14:41 hm 14:41 that is a new one 14:41 ais523: possibly a nh4 bug too 14:41 w00t 14:41 game gave cloak of magic resistance and displacement 14:42 yay 14:42 that reminds me of Deucehack bugs 14:42 although, is that even something that can happen in vanilla? 14:42 IIRC you always dismount first before being engulfed there 14:42 NCommander: placing steed on map? 14:42 is that the error? 14:42 er 14:43 placing steed onto map? 14:43 FIQ, I think so? I'm sorry, didn't write ti down. I didn't get dismounted 14:43 Or loose my warhorse either 14:43 when did it happen 14:43 and how 14:43 Within the last 300 turns 14:43 so I can repro when game is over 14:44 Was on Home:3, got engulfed by an orche jelly 14:44 that is not helpful for me outside context :) 14:44 ok 14:44 Uh, somewhere around T:6000 14:44 and you pressed P? 14:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] elfquest (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 48 points, T:169, killed by an electric shock 14:44 If that's autorecover, yes 14:44 P is continue, R is rewind, Q is quit 14:44 P then 14:44 ok 14:44 so replaymode will catch it 14:44 ty 14:45 feel free to tell me when the game is over 14:47 P and R both automatically recover but using different techniques 14:47 P goes forwards, R goes backwards 14:48 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3042 14:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo3 (Ana Inc Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:3038 14:52 -!- zxkuqyb has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo3 (Ana Inc Fem Neu), 14292 points, T:3194, killed by a horned devil 15:21 -!- aoei has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:22 -!- puck1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:25 !tell K2 pushed a couple of fixes 15:25 Will do, FIQ! 15:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo3 (Ana Hum Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3148 15:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo3 (Ana Hum Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:4124 16:11 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 16:11 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 16:13 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 16:29 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 16:33 [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3001 points, T:2965, quit 16:39 ok 16:39 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-24 15:25 EST: pushed a couple of fixes 16:39 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 16:40 great my dog suicided on a red mold 16:40 StatueSurfer: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-24 04:33 EST: nothing to do with fh, just that k2 gzips people's ttyrecs while they are still playing, leading to issues in dgl 16:40 StatueSurfer: Message from aosdict at 2017-12-24 08:12 EST: Medusa does indeed have MR_STONE, but she also had it in 3.4.3. Perhaps the code path that handles stoning gaze attacks simply ignores this resistance. 16:41 aosdict: yes it does 16:41 StatueSurfer the gzip issue has been resolved 16:41 looking at what Tangles did in the crontab - really simple 16:42 he just add -mmin +60 to the line 16:42 man that stoning resistance thing seems like a really odd exception to make 16:44 YANI: if you throw a bell, it makes a loud clanging noise (ie wakes nearby sleeping monsters) 16:45 (I just threw a bell and was amused that it made no noise) 16:50 -!- zxkuqyb has joined #hardfought 16:52 does advent calendars end in 25th in countries that celebrate the 25th? 16:52 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 16:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v theRaisse] by ChanServ 16:52 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 16:53 wondering for un/4k reasons 16:53 mostly 16:57 jonadab: please add a cannibal confirmation 17:00 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 17:02 jonadab: why is the advent calendar inert? 17:02 there is no engravings 17:02 and attempting to go in what I assume to be the 2th 17:02 24th 17:02 is empty 17:04 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:07 if player == FIQ disable advent calendar; insert 2d4+1 lumps coal in stocking 17:08 * FIQ strikes through K2's name on the Nice list 17:08 :D 17:08 oh i havent made the nice list in decades 17:08 heh 17:08 you should be nicer 17:11 heh 17:11 i kid i kid 17:11 !players 17:11 K2: [hdf-us] Delraven [dyn] Zxkuqyb [fh] arnibald [gh] Grasshopper [nd] DrakeMarshall [dnh] Demo3 [dnh] krm26 [un] FIQ [4k] 17:11 K2: [hdf-eu] No current players 17:12 8 players 17:12 nice 17:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo3 (Ana Hum Fem Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:11697 17:15 kinda surprised actually, i'm in the middle of family stuff myself 17:17 we finished christmas stuff a few hours ago 17:17 swedes celebrate on the 24th 17:20 we have my wifes sister and her husband and kids over right now, we did a round of gifts and are about to have dinner 17:21 then we're going over to their house tomorrow for xmas day stuff 17:21 in my house growing up we always celebrated on xmas eve 17:22 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 17:22 ahh 17:30 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:32 i will be playing later tonight :P 17:33 <[Demo]> " The mind flayer throws a cream pie! You burn a cream pie out of the air!" true jedi 17:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo3 (Ana Hum Fem Neu) killed the Nightmare, on T:13455 17:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo3 (Ana Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:13573 17:42 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo3 (Ana Hum Fem Neu) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:14097 17:51 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 17:51 <[Demo]> wait does killing these guys allow me to pick up their corresponding orbs? 17:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo3 (Ana Hum Fem Neu) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:14229 17:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo3 (Ana Hum Fem Neu) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:14298 17:53 -!- zxkuqyb has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:54 @d?bebelith 17:54 RIP bot 17:55 [Demo]: yes it does, you need to kill them to gra their orbs 17:58 <[Demo]> always wondered why they existed 17:58 <[Demo]> other than cause ff 17:59 ironic: werewolf deathdropped silver saber 18:00 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 18:03 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:04 <[Demo]> black knight dropped rod of lordly might 18:23 !who 18:23 Tarmunora_: [hdf-us] Zxkuqyb [fh] Grasshopper [nd] Demo3 [dnh] 18:23 Tarmunora_: [hdf-eu] deki [nd] 18:23 !whereis Demo3 18:23 Tarmunora_: [hdf-us] Demo3 [dnh]: (Ana Hum Fem Neu) T:16571 Law Quest level: 11 18:23 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo3 (Ana Hum Fem Neu) killed Axus, on T:16649 18:24 I've just been noticing (in nd, 361) that all the throne rooms generated lately seem to have a relevant king on the throne 18:24 ie dwarf king, elven king, gnome king etc 18:25 let's have some queens too! 18:28 fiqhack has this 18:31 * bug_sniper attaches a tiny lightbulb to Grasshopper to make a Firefly 18:31 -!- bobbydurrett has joined #hardfought 18:33 Playing nethack while tipsy seems like a bad idea 18:35 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 18:35 life lesson: even if _confident_ you don't have a wand of cancellation, don't 'select all' to put into the BoH 18:35 you will have a cancel wand anyway 18:35 and you will be sad 18:36 RIP my spellbooks, that one scroll, and weapons 18:43 FIQ: Advent calendars normally end on the 25th, yes; but I couldn't see how to make the level layout support that reasonably. 18:43 jonadab: ah 18:43 So the NetHack one ends on the 24th. 18:44 (The traditional layout is like a normal calendar, one row per week.) 18:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Ana Inc Mal Cha), 58262 points, T:8911, killed by a trooper 18:44 (So you'd need five rows, most years.) 18:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed fixed greased +3 Stormhelm", on T:49156 18:47 -!- zxkuqyb has joined #hardfought 18:49 tsk, losing all gold due to misreading a spell book sucks 18:51 Better than losing the book. 18:51 Or being paralyzed. 18:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 shield of the resolute heart", on T:49316 18:51 jonadab: you always become paralyzed 18:52 making the level 1 effect the most dangerous 18:52 Ok, "paralyzed for a nontrivial number of turns" then. 18:52 Is level 1 the teleport effect? 18:52 yes 18:53 level 2 is the blind for 500 turns effects 18:53 they are not very well chosen 18:53 level 5 confuses 18:53 3 casts aggravate 18:53 4 loses gold 18:54 6 is contact poison 18:54 7 is an exploding rune 18:54 prepared by that oots mage 18:54 Hmm. 18:54 Seems like this whole mechanic probably ought to be reconsidered. 18:55 EPI: if you fail to read a spellbook successfully, you are permanently barred from that spell school. 18:55 isn't that already a slex thing 18:55 Dunno. 18:55 ah I had level 2 and 3 confused 18:55 ok blindness is level 3 18:56 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:56 and aggravate level 2 18:56 that is a bit saner 18:56 but still 18:56 this effect 18:56 case 2: 18:56 make_blinded(Blinded + rn1(100, 250), TRUE); 18:56 break; 18:56 is easily the most annoying 18:56 aggravate should probably be level 1, but honestly, the whole mechanic makes very little flavor sense, and in terms of gameplay, most of the effects are overshadowed by potential loss of the book anyway. 18:57 confusion should go before blinding 18:57 Yeah. 18:57 case 2: 18:57 make_blinded(Blinded + rn1(100, 250), TRUE); 18:57 <[Demo]> blow them up forvever on level 2 18:57 break; 18:57 err 18:57 pline(msgc_statusbad, "These runes were just too much to comprehend."); 18:57 make_confused(HConfusion + rn1(7, 16), FALSE); 18:57 break; 18:57 what would you rather take 18:58 16-22 turns of confusion 18:58 <[Demo]> make spellbooks paralyzing you respect free action 18:58 or 250-349 turns of blindness 18:58 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:58 FIQ: Eep, that's _quite_ a difference in turn count. 18:58 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:58 Almost like somebody was just phoning in the different effects, rather than thinking it through. 19:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Elysium (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 194 points, T:456, killed by a black pudding 19:07 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 19:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 19:08 sokoban ... 19:08 really? 19:08 * NCommander picks up his third wand of cancel 19:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:50672 19:09 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Elysium (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 28 points, T:95, killed by a sewer rat 19:14 !who 19:14 FIQ: [hdf-us] NCommander [fh] Zxkuqyb [fh] Tarmunora [dnh] 19:14 FIQ: [hdf-eu] No current players 19:14 !whereis Tarmunora 19:14 FIQ: [hdf-us] Tarmunora [dnh]: (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) T:51537 Neutral Quest level: 16 19:14 "Ndr-Nob"? 19:14 Drow noble 19:15 at least the elf-elves disappeared 19:16 efl-elves? 19:16 "Elf Elf Fem Cha" 19:16 dnh had these 19:16 for a whiel 19:16 *while 19:16 Mandevil didn't approve 19:21 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:32 what variants is everybody playing 19:32 its been a while 19:38 <[Demo]> fh seems big rn 19:41 dnethack is still more popular, barely 19:41 if going on amount of deaths 19:42 If only because I keep splatting 19:42 for most other intents and purposes fh is the most played variant 19:47 ben: Long story short, everyone's playing 3.6.x, FIQhack, or dNethack 19:47 thanks for breaking it down for me! 19:47 gonna read up on fiqhack :P 19:48 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/FIQHack 19:48 <[Demo]> stupid wand patch symmetry 19:50 "The elder priest is much more fair" --Amy_BSOD(unconfirmed) 19:50 <[Demo]> wait what 19:51 <[Demo]> i really hope amy said that cause that would be pretty funny 19:51 Well, she hates both, the question is which one she hates more :P 19:51 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 19:51 <[Demo]> elder priest is only dangerous if ur dumb enough to step near it 19:51 <[Demo]> wand patch you die either way 19:53 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Kni Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:9950 19:53 ... mine's wand of wishing 19:53 *well then* 19:54 [Demo]: not true 19:54 Luxidream has no issues ascending fh 19:54 and considers it easier than vanilla 19:54 (easier early, harder later) 19:55 <[Demo]> i like the opposite 😛 19:55 <[Demo]> cause the game is worth more later 19:55 <[Demo]> sunk cost wise 19:55 <[Demo]> and thats why i enjoy playing vanilla slashem 19:55 <[Demo]> and dnethack 19:55 <[Demo]> which have a bit much in common 19:57 [Demo], eh, I'm not actually THAT sure FIQhack's early game is that much easier. I think the "easier" aspects come pretty much from UI improvements 19:58 [Demo], end game can get a lot harder because the AI is a lot smarter 19:58 it was I who said that, not [Demo] :p 19:58 NCommander: always lit early mines 19:59 FIQ, I'm not 100% that's actually a huge difference though. I rarely feel like dark mines are a reason why I died. 19:59 * NCommander is debating how to cook off his newly found WoW 19:59 <[Demo]> early game is way easier yeah 19:59 <[Demo]> the whole screen changes color with lost hp 19:59 <[Demo]> that helps me the most 20:00 [Demo]: btw if you wondered why I said to keep speed pots 20:01 astral is why 20:01 priests can have slow monster 20:01 which can be nasty 20:01 sanctum too on a lesser scale 20:01 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 20:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 20:02 or you could be NCommander 20:02 and basically not get hit at all by it 20:02 and have 1st altar be coaligned 20:02 :P 20:02 <[Demo]> he got summon swarmed though 20:02 charm monster FTW 20:02 <[Demo]> summon swarms kill me 20:03 everybody gets summon swarmed in fh 20:03 Hmmm, found a "Kontroller" ghost on lv14 20:03 <[Demo]> so I need better armor 20:03 CM spam pretty much ended up becoming the signature of fh sanctum/astral 20:03 it used to be worse 20:03 despite my nerfs 20:03 nhdev 20:03 I think it is in an ok state now 20:04 last time i played astral was still pretty nasty 20:04 Grasshopper: those are called bones 20:04 :) 20:05 FIQ, why thank you sir 20:05 hothraxxa: at least it's usually only sanctum/astral now that can get out of hand 20:05 is he dead, bones? 20:05 yeah 20:05 in 2016, people kept getting summon-swarmed in the mines 20:05 plenty of bones there 20:05 Dammit, I'm a doctor Jim! 20:06 I mean it can still happen 20:06 but it's rarer 20:06 and doesn't spawn as much 20:06 FIQ, as an ironic bit of that, you made the riders surprisingly harmless as a result since they rarely can get close enough :P 20:06 NCommander: hah yeah I know 20:06 [hdf-us] [fh] Zxkuqyb (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed bag of holding", on T:11701 20:06 summon swarms seem like a farming opportunity to me 20:06 considered making them able to displace 20:07 i just bring lots of taming 20:07 throne wish 20:07 so i can displace 20:07 hothraxxa, that's how I managed to ascend 20:07 Though it was charm monster, and six dragons 20:08 well charm monster is taming 20:08 -!- bobbydurrett has joined #hardfought 20:08 i mena the spell, the scroll, the harp 20:08 I remember seeing hothraxxa do astral with a magic harp 20:08 thast was something 20:08 *that 20:08 also took forever 20:08 aye 20:08 because it was pre-nerf 20:08 so astral was completely filled 20:09 FIQ, can you artifact dualwield in FIQ? 20:09 no 20:09 you can dualwield magical weapons though 20:09 FIQ, I got cancelled by a monster. what do I do to uncancel myself? 20:09 zxkuqyb: drink noncursed gain energy, read confused charging, pray, step on a magic trap 20:10 ah, fh cancellation. fond memories 20:10 not 20:10 hothraxxa: it is only fair that the player can be cancelled too 20:10 ok cool, thank you 20:10 why leave the fun only to monsters 20:10 fair? who wants it to be fair? 20:10 me 20:10 certainly not me 20:11 monster/player symmetry is nice 20:11 <[Demo]> not when u die 20:11 well no 20:12 hothraxxa: would you rather it cancel your inventory 20:12 because not only is it asymmetric 20:12 which is bad 20:12 it is also evil 20:12 gh style... i don't know, i learned to live with it in grunthack 20:12 for full monster/player symmetry, anyone who kills something must also die 20:12 I prefer fh cancel 20:12 rumflump: I don't understand the logic 20:12 now i see it! all those dead kittens! 20:13 i thought that was just somebody out there wanking a lot 20:13 <[Demo]> monsters shouldnt use wands of cancellation 20:13 they should 20:13 it's strange to me that fiq prefers fh 20:13 they should use everything 20:13 rumflump: well I mean 20:13 I made fh 20:13 i have no problem with fiq implementing everything the way he has 20:14 i don't have to enjoy it 20:14 <[Demo]> fiqhack is an experiment 20:14 * NCommander notes of the variants I've played at least somewhat 20:14 FH seems the most balanced. 20:14 on the whole, a pretty successful experiment 20:14 <[Demo]> i cant disagree there 20:14 YASD usually seems caused by pilot error 20:14 It's pretty damn rare when I feel like unreasonable RNG 20:15 <[Demo]> soldiers with the wrong wands 20:15 <[Demo]> (sleep) 20:15 expert soldoers 20:15 they are only skilled 20:15 <[Demo]> 2 skilled 20:15 unless the wand is blessed I guess 20:15 <[Demo]> sleep explosions suck 20:15 there is one thing I am unsure with and want to address 20:15 [Demo], I had a @ with cancelation 20:15 That was "fun" 20:15 death rays need more ways to protect 20:15 than MR 20:15 those fucking explosions are insufferable 20:15 at least it doesn't cancel your entire inventory 20:16 <[Demo]> id like the wand balance patch a lot if it didnt apply to monsters 20:16 if you zap a monster with cancel 20:16 does it cancel their inventory? 20:16 no 20:16 so it shouldn't cancel yours 20:16 it should cancel you 20:16 I rarely had a reason to zap cancelation in vanilla 20:16 <[Demo]> consistency is good except for when its me consistently dying 😛 20:16 i do it all the time in vanilla 20:17 The only one I usually bothered was medusa on the offhand chance she escaped. 20:17 dragons 20:17 vanilla dragons aren't that lethal 20:17 don't some variants have death resistance 20:17 <[Demo]> fiqhack dragons are bad 20:17 oh I thought you meant fh 20:17 sorry misread 20:17 first, disenchanters. second, mass blank scrolls and potions of water 20:17 what's not to like? 20:17 <[Demo]> they make me die 20:17 FIQ, yeah, cancel was used to amazing effect to get GrDSM 20:18 Gr isn't enough 20:18 to make it unambiguous 20:18 how do i tell fiqhack about my terminal size? 20:18 FIQ, Green :P 20:18 <[Demo]> whats green do 20:18 ben: restart dgamelaunch 20:18 <[Demo]> (bonus) 20:18 Posion and sickness resistance 20:18 <[Demo]> in fiqhack? 20:18 it isn't fiqhack's fault 20:18 <[Demo]> ah sickness 20:18 er, immunity 20:18 <[Demo]> stupid resistance vs immunity thing 20:18 That's actually much more useful than it sounds, since posion resistance can fail, and sickness resistance lets you eat old stuff. 20:19 it is not stupid :P 20:19 FIQ: cheers 20:19 ben: np 20:19 <[Demo]> it means i have to worry about more stuff late game 20:19 I also found a MR clock w/ fire immunity 20:19 <[Demo]> after having invested more time 20:19 *cloak 20:19 someone found a CoMR+displacement 20:19 [Demo], no posion instadeath 20:19 nice find right there 20:19 FIQ, I still liked my leather gloves of brillance. 20:19 <[Demo]> poison instadeath is meaningless 20:20 NCommander: heh 20:20 <[Demo]> only lose early games with like under an hr invested 20:20 nice 20:21 FIQ, I've yet to find a good stragety on how to use potions of wonder 20:21 dip equipment into it 20:21 Since they can put aggravate monster or hunger. 20:21 is probably optimsal 20:21 <[Demo]> pray and hope what you get isnt gay 20:21 So I'm hestistant to risk it. 20:21 *optimal 20:21 <[Demo]> just use duplicate gear 20:22 That can be tricky for some rare gear 20:22 gaunlets of strength/helm of brillance 20:22 That being said 20:22 <[Demo]> use dsm 20:22 <[Demo]> err scales 20:22 helm of brillance and brillance would be OP 20:22 Which should be possible in FIQHack 20:22 not possible 20:23 it blocks things the armor already gives 20:23 unlike gh 20:23 <[Demo]> oh 20:24 * NCommander guesses for rare items, I should probably have a blessed and cursed PoW 20:24 Since I can use it to remove the bad 20:25 potions of wonder is *rare* 20:25 <[Demo]> not if u sit and ponder 20:25 like 20:25 FIQ, I had three last game 20:25 it took several complete games 20:25 until someone found one outside wishing 20:25 <[Demo]> damn ive found 2 20:25 <[Demo]> wasted 1 on accident 20:26 <[Demo]> iding it 20:26 but I made them more common since 20:26 <[Demo]> ah 20:26 That being said ... I'm debating if this will be a game where I don't roll with SDSM or GDSM 20:26 Dragonbane gives reflection 20:26 you are riding? 20:26 ride a dragon 20:26 Quest artifact *and* my cloak gives MR 20:26 they're great mounts 20:27 FIQ, I need to tame one first. I killed the first one, but I'll wish for scrolls of taming for the castle or ludois 20:27 yellow is best 20:27 if you are acid immune 20:27 or at least resistant 20:27 FIQ, though TBH, I'm not sure the fort is accessible. The one vault under L10 ... was on the portal level 20:27 Down to Dl:20 20:28 the rng really does not want you to have ludios 20:28 it solved my "make ludios more common" 20:28 by simply not generating vaults 20:28 lol 20:28 FIQ, I feel rather trolled to be honest 20:28 FIQ, I haven't found medusa yet so it might be accessible ... but still :( 20:29 FIQ, but yeah, since I can ride, and joust effectively, dragonbane seems like a very powerful way to go, with burning a wish for a ki-rin 20:29 why ki-rin 20:29 do a mtf 20:29 go dragon 20:29 :P 20:29 Flying mount + fast 20:30 And spellcaster 20:30 Or black dragon 20:30 you know you can haste them 20:30 one or the other 20:30 right 20:30 FIQ, I thought monster speed boosts weret temporary 20:30 * NCommander has seen "X slows down" after awhile of zapping the wand. 20:30 yes 20:30 mtf? 20:30 very fast is temporary 20:30 bless the wand 20:30 intrinsic fast is permanent 20:30 but slower 20:31 a ki-rin will get a random list of spells 20:31 which may or may not include speed monster 20:31 restore ability! create familiar! 20:32 you know ... you could abuse create familiar on astral 20:32 hahaha create familiar 20:32 counter CM spam with CF 20:32 lots of dogs 20:32 and cats 20:32 So many puppies. 20:32 yip! 20:32 It's 2/3rd domestic, 1/3rd tame random 20:32 So ... 20:32 purr 20:32 You could theorically out CM the AI 20:32 but they will die 20:33 doesn't the message say "slow down slightly"? 20:33 rumflump: if they have intrinsic speed yes 20:33 I guess as far as dragons go, I'll probably want black 20:33 Vaporizing rodney would be fun 20:33 keep in mind the disint nerf 20:33 disint breath got mega nerfed 20:33 mega ultra to the ground nerfed 20:34 it isn't that bad 20:34 a banhammer fell on a moon that was falling on an idiot child who hates sand 20:34 "disint got nerfed" - Remember Challenger, the once integerated demilich who lost a fight to a black dragon 20:35 4k has *buffed* blackdrags :D 20:35 still slow, but lethal bite 20:35 fh too 20:35 ah 20:35 just realized I should have called my horse Endevour, then go Atlantis, Colombia, Discovery. 20:35 not that 20:35 What's fh dragon speed? 20:35 2 20:35 20 20:35 speedy 20:36 regular 20:36 26 with intrinsic speed 20:36 they don't like to engage 20:36 32 with extrinsic 20:37 <[Demo]> jesus 20:37 NCommander: mtf is a RLdiscord person who found out about fiqhack 20:37 baby jesus 20:37 and loved it 20:37 and then told the rest of discord about it 20:37 pity you can't #saddle an air elemental 20:37 and generally spreads fh apprecitation 20:38 *appreciation 20:38 <[Demo]> ncommander you can ride in one 20:38 [Demo], that's usually only a shortterm solution 20:38 #saddle in nh4 seems to be a hardcoded list of allowed creatures. is that true in nh3? the wiki describes it with broader rules, like "large, nonhumanoid, etc" 20:39 <[Demo]> yes 20:39 rumflump: Yes, it's been a hardcoded list since forever. 20:39 I made a creature fit all the rules and went mildly crazy trying to figure out why it couldn't be saddled O: 20:40 wiki is misleading I think 20:40 "In general, all quCDJ can be ridden. Ki-rin and couatls are suited to be saddled and ridden as well. Foocubi are notable for giving a funny message if you attempt to saddle one ("Shame on you!"). Attempting to saddle a cockatrice or chickatrice without gloves is an instadeath, and neither monster can be ridden anyway." -- https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Steed#Possible_choices_of_steed 20:41 hm, it was a different page 20:41 I thought the wumpus could also be saddled (but there's no point, because it's uselessly slow). 20:42 But I could be remembering incorrectly. 20:42 Oh, wait, the wumpus is a q. Nevermind. 20:42 would be amusing if you could pry the arms off a large humanoid and thus be able to saddle it 20:42 That is not nice. 20:42 well, it's not humanoid shaped now, ride on! 20:43 oh, actually it was a different paragraph on that same page, jdab 20:43 <[Demo]> why cant i do that in slex as a cruel abuser 20:43 it'd bleed out. you'd have to cauterize the stumps 20:43 First you need a pet which is large enough to ride, not humanoid (exception made for Centaurs) and has a solid physical form (e.g. not amorphous like a pudding or whirly like a vortex). You must also be in a humanoid form and not too big or small to fit on a saddle. 20:43 <[Demo]> rip off pets limbs 20:44 use firebrand 20:44 <[Demo]> good idea 20:45 -!- deadnoob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:45 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:45 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 20:50 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:50 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 20:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 20:57 or wand of fire charges 20:58 lightsaber 20:58 luckstone finally retrieved ... at T10k 20:58 * NCommander has yet to identify ID 21:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] DrakeMarshall (Bin Clk Mal Non) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:174730 21:06 the Arsenal? 21:09 Fancy golem in the Law Quest 21:09 <[Demo]> asshole who throws mean shit at you 21:11 Just iron balls 21:11 He's harmless 21:12 <[Demo]> hes still an asshole 21:13 NCommander: You should try dNethack: Come for the lightsabers, stay for the unholy abomination that is the Elder Priest :P 21:13 <[Demo]> the elder priest is not even bad 21:13 <[Demo]> if he had like demon lord lvl xp then yes 21:14 rip 21:14 I mean, if you're silly enough to fight him with weak melee without a =oFA... 21:21 jonadab: [backscroll] there were some ideas about fixing the spellbook failure effects. lemme see if I can find them 21:31 forgetting spells continues to feel like a weird mechanic... 21:34 can I cancel Master Kaen? 21:43 [hdf-us] [fh] Zxkuqyb (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 68524 points, T:15046, killed by Master Kaen 21:43 yep... 21:44 !lastgame 21:44 zxkuqyb: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/Z/Zxkuqyb/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-12-25%2002%3A43%3A45%2C%20Zxkuqyb-Mon-Hum-Mal-Cha%2C%20died.txt 21:44 !lastgame 21:44 ben: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/Z/Zxkuqyb/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-12-25%2002%3A43%3A45%2C%20Zxkuqyb-Mon-Hum-Mal-Cha%2C%20died.txt 21:44 duh 22:24 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:25 <[Demo]> by a 22:25 wand 22:42 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:50 Tarmunora_, I've thougth of trying dNH; is it mor elike slash'em w/ the various key quests and such? 22:51 <[Demo]> better than slashem 22:51 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 22:51 <[Demo]> its really good if you like being a badass 22:52 it's like slash'em in the sense that its main deal is to add more stuff, but unlike slash'em it tries (and generally succeeds) at keeping stuff balanced. 22:52 <[Demo]> any sense of balance is a lie 😛 22:54 FIQ, bug, quaffing a potion of sleep "you suddenly asleep" 22:54 <[Demo]> i would argue dnethack is less balanced than slashem 22:55 <[Demo]> ehh 22:55 slashem seems to me to be a good forerunner to slashem extended's approach, which is to generally not care about balance 22:55 <[Demo]> slashem is still playable though 22:55 <[Demo]> but yeah dnh might actually be slightly better balanced idk 22:55 <[Demo]> i love slex 22:55 <[Demo]> its a dumping ground for dumb ideas 22:55 <[Demo]> i love dumb ideas 22:56 I say that dnethack is better balanced because its maintainers actually care about balance. 22:56 <[Demo]> yeah i guess the next update will nerf some of the really big outstanding balance issues 22:58 according to I think FIQ and others, slex jumped the shark when it started seeking out evil ideas, not just dumb ones. 23:06 <[Demo]> both are funny 23:15 [hdf-us] [un] krm26 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 24104 points, T:10090, killed by a disenchanter 23:16 !lastgame Mushanokouji Narinaka 23:16 NCommander: No last game for (Mushanokouji,Narinaka) 23:16 !lastgame Mushanokouji Narinaka 23:16 NCommander: No last game for (Mushanokouji,Narinaka) 23:17 This feels like a bones level 23:20 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 23:21 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:27 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 23:29 well i took out that exception for medusa's gaze bypassing her stoning resistance 23:29 and i've also made nurses and unicorns ungenocidable 23:35 FIQ, ... amensia seems bugged up 23:35 * NCommander got brainsucked 23:35 Ended up with a lot of inventory of " an uncursed wand called wand of digging" 23:35 and such 23:40 that's intentional 23:40 is it? 23:40 a tedious player would do that with all items 23:40 rumflump, I hadn't manually named the items before. 23:41 therefore it's done *for* you by fiqhace 23:41 so I forgot the underlying identity but ... not the item itself? 23:41 think of it this way, it's no longer familiar to you, but you kept a detailed journal 23:42 automatically 23:42 and you wrote that copper wands are striking, etc 23:42 -!- firemonkey has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 23:43 rumflump, ... huh ... 23:43 That's considerably less debilating 23:43 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:44 amnesia isn't a problem for tedious players who screenshot all levels they visit, and call-name all items they find. therefore you get the same benefits 23:44 so you're not incentivized to do that awful shit 23:44 <[Demo]> so what does fh amnesia do? 23:44 not much 23:44 <[Demo]> seems pretty canadian 23:45 depends on your stereotype of canadians 23:45 those damn greedy wafflefuckers :( 23:46 <[Demo]> its just pulling too many punches 23:47 rumflump, [Demo] it does affect some wishing and writing, and I assume maps still get trashed 23:47 <[Demo]> i assume maps dont get trashed? 23:47 <[Demo]> does it affect spell memory? 23:47 if they don't, then I've been removing h for no good reason in fiqhack 23:48 I'm debating if I can safely/sanely kill my quest nemeiss 23:48 I don't remember, but I expect they probably don't get trashed - since you can easily just screenshot each level you visit, even in vanilla/dnh/foo/bar 23:48 you can use interhack to get the same benefits on non-FH games :P 23:48 <[Demo]> !who 23:48 [Demo]: [hdf-us] NCommander [fh] Grasshopper [nd] 23:48 [Demo]: [hdf-eu] No current players 23:48 <[Demo]> what are you a? 23:48 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 23:48 <[Demo]> ur screen is too big to tell 23:48 [Demo], knight, AC:10 23:48 -10 23:49 Green DSM, +3 exaclibur. Mount just died 23:49 AC 10? 23:49 ??? 23:49 -10 23:49 ah 23:49 oh, huh, that msg doesn't appear in my client 23:49 does in teh log on hf.org tho 23:49 I have a wand of wishing but I haven't decided what to burn it on. I've got very little paper to the point I'm debating reverse genociding in paper golems. 23:50 golems can't be genocided 23:50 they can be reverse genocided 23:50 you can revgeno ungenocidable monsters? 23:50 I thought you could 23:50 I also ahve what I suspect is a nasty bones file between me and medusa 23:50 that's just gonna make my variant that much more of a hassle... 23:51 [Demo]: http://i.imgur.com/9mrd8ih.png 23:51 "You cannot reverse genocide a monster that cannot be genocided" 23:51 Oh, ok 23:51 from the wiki 23:51 I suspect the bones file below me MIGHT have the Samuari quest artifact 23:52 there is a 100% chance a monster picked it up and will bisect you with it 23:52 ... whic is terrofying, because that could be Lord Sato with an ascension kit 23:52 approximately 23:52 StatueSurfer, FIQHack, player monster 23:52 oh even better 23:52 Yeah 23:52 110% chance 23:52 I can't find a lastgame file, but seeing a bones on Dl:22 makes me ... nervous 23:53 Getting the magic mirror would up my ranged damage 23:53 But I'm hesistant on facing Ixoth 23:53 Though I'm fire immune 23:53 u got dis 23:54 if you have controlled teleportitis he shouldn't be too much of an issue 23:54 assuming knight quest allows teleport 23:54 I have teleport control 23:54 no teleportitis 23:54 That's not a bad intirinstic to hunt for ATM though 23:55 yeah if you get that then you have flee him relatively easily 23:56 averages 28 damage per turn if all his attacks hit though 23:57 merry christmas y'all 23:57 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 23:58 merry christmas to all, and to all a good night! 23:58 flapping trapdoor 23:58 * NCommander just dropped into his lair without finding the stairs 23:59 i don't suppose you have a scroll of magic mapping 23:59 not that you need one i guess 23:59 since you know where the lair's upstair is 23:59 StatueSurfer, well I'm chasing him up through levels