00:22 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 00:29 [hdf-us] [slex] k2 (Lad Clk Mal Neu), 40 points, T:434, killed by a monster (grid bug) 00:42 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Arc Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a water nymph, on T:7683 00:48 -!- Jonathanhanes_ has joined #hardfought 00:48 !who 00:48 Jonathanhanes_: [hdf-us] k2 [gh] 00:48 Jonathanhanes_: [hdf-eu] No current players 00:54 Morning world 01:12 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Arc Gno Fem Neu) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:9831 01:26 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 01:41 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 01:41 -!- noty has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:53 That was slightly terrorifying 01:53 * NCommander got his GDSM 01:58 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Arc Gno Fem Neu) had scimitar bestowed upon her by Camaxtli, on T:14189 02:01 #turn is OP 02:01 damn 02:01 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:07 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Arc Gno Fem Neu) had scimitar bestowed upon her by Camaxtli, on T:14741 02:07 !8ball test 02:07 bug_sniper: Outlook not so good 02:35 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 02:39 -!- nht has joined #hardfought 02:46 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 78467 points, T:26405, killed by Nalzok 02:46 ARGH 02:46 your quest nemesis? 02:47 really? 02:47 StatueSurfer, he hit for 30 points of damage, and I failed to escape in time 02:47 :( 02:47 you should be prepared for that kind of stuff going in 02:49 StatueSurfer, AC -20, was at full health going in 02:49 !rng Priest|Ranger 02:49 NCommander: Priest 02:49 no scroll of scare monster? 02:51 assuming normal distribution he averages 38 damage per turn 02:51 without factoring in spellcasting 02:52 scrolls of scare monster doesn't work in fiqhack 02:52 on unique monsters 02:52 no 3.6 shenanigans allowed 02:54 oh 02:54 ~~boo~~ 03:01 nalzok gets healing, protection, speed monster and phase 03:02 what does he need phase for 03:02 did you change covetous behavior 03:02 I didn't change covetous behaviour 03:03 phase is useful for dealing with boulder forts 03:03 oh 03:03 actually I did change covetous behaviour 03:03 because it was kinda broken in nethack4 03:04 but all I did was trying to revert it to how it works in vanilla 03:14 kek 03:14 looks like a lieutenant stepped on a poly trap in Gehennom 03:14 and became a blue jelly 03:27 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:4978 03:28 ... 03:28 well 03:28 Sokoban Wand of Wishing ... 03:28 I'll take it 03:30 NCommander: remember what happened the last time you got early /oW 03:30 there be some dragons down below 03:31 FIQ, considering how my last priest went ... yeah 03:31 ugh 03:31 I can't decide if I suck at NH, or FIQHack tweaked the balance JUST enough to keep me off my game 03:31 fiqhack earlygame is easier 03:32 latergame is harder 03:32 I've noticed 03:34 FIQ, RNG has been .. unusually kind. It's coughed up a crystal plate mail on Dl:2 and a +3 ring of protection in a shop 03:34 nice 03:34 FIQ, I do very much appreciate the mid/endgame is not a cakewalk. Usually once I get past the castle, stupidity is the only reason to YASD 03:35 the RNG is out to get you 03:35 it just wants to make you complacant 03:36 I see that you intend to die with a wand of wishing in inventory 03:36 almost, at least 03:36 and in sokoban, so not even bones 03:36 you can use ctrl+e btw 03:40 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:5799 03:40 !setmintc 03:45 FIQ, right now, I'm trying to figure out how to remove this spotted jelly 03:46 * NCommander is semi-debating burning a wish for spellbook of magic missle *or* spellbook of protection 03:46 you could find some rocks 03:46 ... and the obvious solution presents itself 03:46 ? 03:47 I see a wand of fire 03:47 you could use that 03:48 FIQ, I hate using those offensively due to being able to permaburn Elbereth 03:48 I'm also unsure it has enough charges to do the job 03:49 well monsters generate HP faster in fiqhack 03:51 FIQ, yeah ...hit and run isn't going to work 03:51 I'm probably better figuring out how to go down and come back 03:56 just don't die 03:56 dying with a wand of wishing would be too bad 03:59 FIQ, yeah ... and there's a random helm of brillance 03:59 * NCommander blinks 03:59 heh 04:00 NCommander: NeroOneTrueKing found like 5 wands of wishing in his fiqhack game a while back 04:00 He didn't ascend 04:00 I see that you also had a helm of telepathy 04:00 not bad 04:03 FIQ, yeah. A little pointless when you're a priest due to the quest artifact, but it's nice for now. I just discovered genocide so I might try sending in some dragons. I have a scroll of scare monster, and just need to carve out the right room. 04:03 dragonbreath 04:03 uh 04:03 yeah 04:04 dragons can flee then proceed to obliterate you 04:04 FIQHack dragons can breathe in melee range 04:04 and a lot more effectively considering this is FIQhack 04:04 StatueSurfer, you dig out a 3x3 room behind a closet and use conflict. 04:04 that's how I did it shortly before I splatted 04:04 ... luckstone 04:05 hmm that works? 04:05 how? 04:05 FIQ, they used their breath weapons on each other and ignored me. 04:05 fiqhack dragons should be able t ohandle that 04:05 I was able to pick off the stragler. 04:05 FIQ, it worked fine. 04:05 why are they breathing each other in conflict 04:05 oh I know why 04:05 because melee range 04:06 NCommander: but with that said 04:06 dragonbreath can explode 04:06 be careful 04:06 what dragons are you sending in specifically 04:08 frig 04:08 * NCommander JUST found a spellbook of identify 04:08 *sigh* 04:08 I don't regret the wish 04:08 but I'm slightly annoyed 04:09 you found it in dlvl2? 04:13 FIQ, locked chest that I bypassed before due to no key. 04:13 !tell K2 pushed a minor fix 04:13 Will do, FIQ! 04:13 NCommander: ah 04:13 FIQ, I'm really afraid to what the RNG will do 04:13 * NCommander just found ANOTHER two good items 04:14 BoH and Gaunlets of Dexerity ... 04:14 I had a game like that once 04:14 no early wand of wishing 04:14 but I basically got my entire ascension kit by dlvl10 04:14 apart from DSM 04:15 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:29 -!- hpardis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:32 NCommander: when you polymorph yourself into an arch-lich, do you get spells? 04:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 04:39 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 04:40 -!- deadnoob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:40 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 04:52 FIQ, I haven't tried. 04:53 FIQ, the mines spawned a polytrap which in turn made a bunch of liches ... which was where brave sir robin bravely ran away 04:53 NCommander: you don't gain spells by polyselfing 04:53 so why should monsters gain spells by polymorphing? 04:53 :p 04:56 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:56 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 04:56 -!- deadnoob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:56 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 04:58 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:58 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 04:58 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:02 FIQ, I though the draining attack was an attack, not a spell. 05:02 what draining attack? 05:02 I though lichs could level drain 05:02 or has my brain said goodbye 05:03 oh yay, "oR. Always a bit sad when you get multiple BoH :( 05:14 Izchak the silver dragon on a candle on the floor of a room. 05:14 I ... 05:14 how did THAT happen 05:15 Interestingly, he still counts as a shopkeeper 05:36 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 05:42 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 05:58 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:07 [hdf-us] [nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3690 points, T:4597, killed by a jaguar 06:08 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 06:14 [hdf-us] [nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 403 points, T:1153, killed by a kitten 06:25 [hdf-us] [nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1501 points, T:1713, killed by a giant ant 06:33 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 06:40 * NCommander blehs 06:41 NCommander: liches can do none of those things 06:41 liches are dangerous because of their spells 06:41 besides that, all they have is a touch cold attack 06:41 so a lich without spells is basically harmless 06:42 fair enough 06:42 I'm currently just figuring out what my next moves are and if I want to head down to mine's end. I already have a luckstone 06:53 :/ 06:53 polymorphing my pet got me a lich ... with no spells 06:53 FIQ, I assume they don't get new spells if they grow up? 06:53 no 06:53 but you can give them books 06:53 to read 06:53 so you can customize spells that way 06:54 making them arguably the strongest pet in the game if handled properly 06:54 besides Archons 06:55 having a arch-lich pet zapping everything with sleep, magic missile, hasting itself and you, etc 06:55 is nice 06:55 NCommander: ^ 06:56 ... didn't know that would work 06:56 I've yet to find a single attack spell though 06:56 Frig, he probably detamed by now 06:58 of course, you are playing a priest 06:58 so you're choosing between giving it spells 06:58 and giving you them 07:01 NCommander: also, a pet master or arch-lich will covetous-warp for *your* benefit 07:01 harassing hostile monsters, etc 07:01 FIQ, yeah, I'm keeping him around for now seeing if he'll grow up. I've got a LOT of duplicate spellbooks but they're all types that won't help 07:02 and then warp back to you once he's content 07:02 ahh 07:02 what kind of books? 07:02 detect monsters is useful for it 07:02 clerical mostly, but not that one 07:02 protection too, of course, if you can stand the message spam 07:02 allthough that shouldn't be as bad now 07:02 since it will maintain protection 07:02 I'll likely wish for a WoP and a magic marker and polypile the books to get ones I *do* want, or write them after I've learned them. 07:02 meaning less spam 07:03 or blank and write them, as long as I know the book, I should be able to write them successfully, but I don't *know* any attack spells :( 07:03 liches are kinda slow at growing up 07:04 but once they reach demilich, it goes faster 07:04 since they deal more damage 07:04 Fortunately I know create monster 07:04 so this is trivial if time consuming 07:04 heh 07:04 you could just use it on dlvl1 07:05 Well that or get the book of create familiar in the shop 07:05 and try for another pet 07:05 Minotaur would be nice :) 07:05 a lich is IMO much more useful 07:05 but YMMV 07:07 FIQ, I have a magic whistle, multiple pets is relatively easy :) 07:07 FIQ, there's a way to give items to pets in FIQHack, i.e, armor and such? 07:08 throw it 07:11 FIQ, hrm, lichs don't use weapons? Otherwise I'd go retrieve Orcrist. 07:11 they do not 07:12 this is the major reason as to why a lich without spells isn't very useful 07:13 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 07:13 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-19 04:13 EST: pushed a minor fix 07:14 FIQ, yeah, I need to find him a book of magic missle. I have cone of cold, but I was saving that for myself 07:14 do you reach skilled in attack spells? 07:14 if not, I think the lich could make better use of it 07:15 I can't even get skills in attack spells, At least I don't need to bless it for him 07:16 then I think the lich has more use fo rit 07:16 *for it 07:16 FIQ, I'm still trying to figure out how Izcack became a silver dragon of all things 07:16 I don't know 07:16 possibly caught by polymorph crossfire 07:17 maybe he always wanted to be a silver dragon 07:17 I would think he would be a yellow light 07:17 :) 07:17 Interestingly, he stillc ounts as a shopkeeper and still talks 07:18 pets do not attack peacefuls 07:18 heh 07:18 nice 07:19 seems like the lich picked up a book to read the spell 07:21 NCommander: metallic armor and shields impede monster casting too 07:21 ... frig 07:22 NCommander: if you can reach expert wands and bless probing, you can check monster spell lists and fail% 07:22 That's a tall order, and a LOT of wands 07:23 what is it at atm? basic? 07:23 basic 07:23 heh 07:23 yeah plenty of zaps needed for that 07:23 If I remember pet mechanics, they'll only equip something of higher enchantment/AC 07:23 yes 07:26 FIQ, boom, now a demilich. Still a long way to go to archlich, but we're going the right way 07:26 heh 07:27 nice 07:27 will go quicker now 07:27 yeah, decent attack, I'm actually OK with him in metal armor so he won't die until I can get defensive spells on him 07:27 at most 24 kills and he's a master lich 07:27 then he'll probably take care of the rest himself 07:27 I'm likely going to altar farm with create monster after I restock my holy water 07:28 ah 07:28 * NCommander reminds himself to toss a unihorn 07:33 NCommander: you can adjust an item into itself to merge everything 07:33 FIQ, I know, I just always found it faster to mass drop and pick up 07:34 ah 07:36 NCommander: at skilled or above, make invisible can toggle invis 07:37 FIQ, I have it as an intristic, and Charger is wearing my old cloak of invisibility 07:37 right, I was thinking for your own benefit 07:37 for shops 07:38 there you go, master 07:44 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:44 FIQ, nope, he's arch now :) 07:45 nice 07:50 !tell K2 pushed update 07:50 Will do, FIQ! 07:51 now players have larger control over what equipment pets use 07:51 they will prefer thrown objects over anything else 07:51 preferring the last thrown one 07:59 NCommander: why is there a billion peaceful zombies 07:59 lol 08:00 FIQ, #turn 08:00 ah 08:00 Sadly, chaotic doesn't vaporize them 08:00 heh 08:05 God, watching the Tame Purple L go around is nuts 08:05 Never realized they get that powerful 08:07 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 08:07 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-19 07:50 EST: pushed update 08:08 NCommander: if you restart, pets will now prefer items thrown at them over anything else 08:08 so you can tell it that its own opinions on armor sucks 08:09 FIQ, course you do that AFTER I left the leather stuff up stairs, still he only knows cone of cold so it's not a big deal until I learn magic missle 08:09 NCommander: you need to exit back to dgamelaunch 08:09 also, cone of cold is better than magic missile 08:10 :P 08:10 explosions are nice 08:10 they can't miss 08:10 FIQ, eh, true. I also need to find some wands of light so I can get wand up 08:10 NCommander: also I pushed the fix earlier, blame K2 for being slow updating ;) 08:11 I'm just debating what to burn wishes for 08:11 I plan to give the crystal plate to the lich 08:11 Once I have DSM 08:11 since its second best in the game 08:11 peace on earth 08:13 heh I like setting sparkle to 4 08:13 faster animations are nice 08:13 while keeping it there 08:15 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:17 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 08:17 oh god that's a lot of solders. 08:18 <[Demo]> where? 08:18 [Demo], my game 08:18 be mindful of deathzaps 08:18 I've got reflection 08:18 it can bypass reflection 08:18 if the wand user is skilled 08:19 which soldiers are 08:19 <[Demo]> welcome to fiqhack 08:19 <[Demo]> did you add more ways to get mr? 08:19 no 08:20 well 08:20 potions of wonder 08:20 but that doesn't really count 08:20 FIQ, I hope it can't bypass MR 08:20 it can't 08:20 well 08:20 kind of 08:20 it can leveldrain 08:20 past MR 08:20 but never instakill 08:21 drain res protects against that 08:21 also 08:21 only expert+ can do that 08:21 which basically nothing ha 08:21 s 08:21 beyond demon lords, some other uniques, titans, archons and arch-liches 08:22 of course, a blessed wand of death in the hands of a skilled user will work as expert 08:22 you may want to replace charger's shield too 08:22 large shields make spellcasting nearly impossible 08:24 FIQ, I gave him a small one 08:24 ok 08:24 I'm debating if I want the cold immunity or +3 right now 08:25 I mean 08:25 you have seen what liches does with cone of cold 08:25 *do 08:25 FIQ, not yet :P 08:25 oh? I thought you was the one who nearly died at castle 08:25 because a lich nuked a cone of cold spell in your face 08:26 FIQ, no, I got stoned. Literially. 08:26 yes, I know 08:26 later 08:26 Haven't gotten to the castle since 08:26 but I meant at the castle entrance 08:27 in that game 08:27 Oh, possibly 08:27 Don't remember 08:27 IIRC a lich threw a cone of cold at your face 08:27 I do hope he drops that scroll of genocide 08:27 leaving you at like 8 HP from full 08:27 * NCommander could see that ending hilariously bad. 08:27 why? 08:27 also, do you have scrolls of genocide in your bag? 08:27 FIQ, I have a few 08:28 then drop your bag 08:28 he will drop it 08:28 Status of Charger (neutral): Level 37 HP 296(296) Pw 48(48) AC -19, tame <- I think he's nearly ready for the ascension run :P 08:28 :P 08:28 also, if you don't know 08:28 pets can use bags 08:28 <[Demo]> hey fiq do you know how dnh's pet loot/equip system works? 08:28 so if you intend to keep him longterm 08:28 you should probably get some escape items 08:28 for him 08:29 scroll of fire for slimes, lizard corpses, etc 08:29 FIQ, i don't even have a lizard for myself :( 08:29 (and then put them inside a bag and give him -- he will stash things appropriately to keep it safe until need) 08:29 ah 08:30 FIQ, damn, you really gave them a brain 08:30 <[Demo]> implement something similar to dnh's pet equip/loot system 08:30 yes, I wanted pet use to not be an exercise in tedium 08:30 this entailed giving them a brain 08:30 FIQ, well the one annoying bit is Charger keeps teleporting in from of me and breaking me out of fast travel 08:30 [Demo]: FIQHack doesn't have a direct equip/loot system, but you can accomplish basically the same thing by other means 08:31 NCommander: hmm I wonder why that is 08:31 I mean, I know the teleporting thing, that is ok 08:31 but travel should ignore pets 08:31 simply displacing them 08:31 FIQ, I think I might be failing to displace him, he's got stealth and invisibity though I can see invisible 08:34 yeah 08:34 he learned cone of cold 08:34 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 08:34 damn 08:34 Lichs aren't cold resistant aren't they 08:35 I should probably have given a cloak of cold immunity 08:35 So he doesn't YASD himself 08:41 !tell K2 pushed a fix 08:41 Will do, FIQ! 08:41 NCommander: liches are cold immune, yes 08:41 shiny 08:41 pushed a fix to make travel less annoying with pets 08:42 will be live once K2 updates 08:42 ... it's like some weird reality where the dev team listens to users and applies fixes O_O 08:42 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 08:42 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-19 08:41 EST: pushed a fix 08:43 NCommander: aosdict did tell you earlier, with the trice thing 08:43 irc.freenode.##nethack-variants.weechatlog:2017-12-14 13:39:12 aosdict welcome to fiqhack, where bugs are fairly common but they get fixed in 3 minutes after you discover them :) 08:43 :P 08:44 [Demo]: 1 account wasn't enough? :p 08:44 "Demo2" 08:44 <[Demo]> ok so like 08:44 <[Demo]> i have a dnh game on my main one that im tired of but cant find it in me to kill 08:45 FIQ: i'll ask r/roguelikes to add hdf to ther list once we hit one year 08:45 <[Demo]> so i decided eh, ill play on ascension run 08:45 ah 08:45 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:45 FIQ, :P 08:45 <[Demo]> so i did but then someone suggested i just make another hf acc 08:45 K2: rumflump is the one who added the nethack servers 08:45 <[Demo]> and i like hf better cause its faster 08:45 back then, the combination of mentioned servers gave a complete list of variants 08:45 that is no longer the case 08:46 <[Demo]> also kerio is an arch lich 08:46 i know rumflump add hdf on r/nethack 08:46 does he have that same lvl of access for r/roguelikes? 08:46 [Demo] lol 08:46 he is the one who made the wiki list of servers I think on r/roguelikes 08:47 he has so many different aliases 08:47 it's hard to track 09:01 -!- Announcy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:02 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:10 The wiki's page on rnz is definitely the most math-heavy page there. 09:34 <[Demo]> so i dont use arrows but if i were to whats the size of an enchanted end game stack? 09:52 [Demo] I like to have at least 80-100 arrows on hand, +6 to +7 09:52 they get heavy is the only thing 09:53 <[Demo]> ok thats what i was estimating around 09:53 <[Demo]> shouldn't have a weight issue because dnh 09:53 eh? 09:53 dnh doesnt do encumberance? 09:54 <[Demo]> dnh has ways to get more carrying space 09:54 <[Demo]> and i am utilizing those 09:56 !tell K2 pushed a bug where MR wouldn't actually work against magic missile 09:56 Will do, FIQ! 09:56 <[Demo]> also helps that i have an effective movement speed of 40 09:57 heh 09:57 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-19 09:56 EST: pushed a bug where MR wouldn't actually work against magic missile 10:07 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:10 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 10:11 -!- zxkuqyb has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:12 [hdf-us] [fh] Katsuo (puck) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 40900 points, T:4026, killed by a black unicorn 10:16 -!- puck1 has joined #hardfought 10:16 Does it possible to copy settings and scoreboard from hardfought to eu.hardfought? 10:17 Is it possible* 10:22 -!- zxkuqyb has joined #hardfought 10:22 puck1: yes 10:22 press j on the "main menu" of dgl 10:23 What about scoreboard? 10:23