00:02 'Moloch roars in anger: "Thouh shalt suffer!" Your arm tingles.' 00:02 Thou even 00:03 tickles 00:04 [hdf-us] [fh] blah (mtf) (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:30856 00:05 now I'm interested in where the word "tickle" appears in nethack 00:07 one encyclopedia entry, one message for trying to engrave while engulfed in a jelly, one malediction, and the hallucinatory version of Magicbane's scare attack. 00:23 [hdf-us] [fh] blah (mtf) (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached the Astral Plane, on T:31128 00:34 [hdf-us] [fh] blah (mtf) (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 253842 points, T:31281, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mtf/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-12-14%2005%3A34%3A54%2C%20blah-Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha%2C%20ascended.txt 00:48 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:10387 00:48 Um 00:48 That was unexpected 00:48 I never found a random wand of wishing before 00:49 -!- Elronnd- has joined #hardfought 00:53 [hdf-us] [nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2008 points, T:1752, killed by a jaguar 00:54 -!- Elronnd- has left #hardfought 01:09 -!- bit has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:12 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:15 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:17 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "+2 blessed fixed gray dragon scale mail", on T:12160 01:32 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:12336 01:50 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 01:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 01:53 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:58 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 02:00 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 02:12 -!- Tarmunora__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:22 !tell K2 pushed a minor fix 02:22 Will do, FIQ! 02:24 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Raisse suddenly disappears!] 02:25 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 02:25 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v theRaisse] by ChanServ 02:26 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 02:30 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 03:18 -!- firemonkey has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 03:20 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:35 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 03:47 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 03:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 03:56 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:56 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 04:06 [hdf-us] [nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3498 points, T:2086, killed by a dwarf 04:16 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:20289 04:26 [hdf-us] [nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 808 points, T:2549, killed by an elf zombie 04:51 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 04:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 04:54 -!- firemonkey has joined #hardfought 05:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Zxkuqyb (Ana Inc Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:11733 05:12 ..what's a gnome mask? 05:21 !lastgame Eir III 05:21 NCommander: No last game for (Eir,III) 05:21 !lastgame "Eir III" 05:21 NCommander: No last game for ("Eir,III") 05:21 :/ 05:21 FIQ seriously buffed the dragons ... 05:22 * NCommander is debating if he wants to expend WoD charges ... 05:25 NCommander: Eir III is a puck game I think 05:25 !lastgame puck 05:25 FIQ: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/puck/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-11-29%2014%3A34%3A32%2C%20Johny-Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt 05:25 clearly not that one though 05:26 FIQ, yeah, I fell through a trapdoor and got surronded by a red, orange, yellow, and silver(?) I think dragon 05:26 ah it would be here 05:26 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/puck/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-11-05%2009:04:12,%20Eir%20III-Val-Hum-Fem-Law,%20died.txt 05:26 NCommander: wow that's *rough* 05:26 never seen that 05:26 FIQ, yeah, I can wand of death the yellow and red. 05:26 bones I take it? 05:27 are you playing? 05:27 because I don't see you on watch list 05:27 FIQ, I am, I'm debating what to do 05:27 !who 05:27 FIQ: [hdf-us] NCommander [fh] DrakeMarshall [dnh] Zxkuqyb [dnh] 05:27 FIQ: [hdf-eu] elenmirie [nd] Kontroller [nd] Raisse [nd] 05:27 !tell K2 your watchmode is still doing weird stuff 05:27 Will do, FIQ! 05:27 can't watch you lol 05:28 FIQ, https://imgur.com/a/oJSYE 05:28 FIQ, I'm debating if there's any way to escape this WITHOUT using the WoD but I think I need to use it 05:28 NCommander: good luck! 05:28 * NCommander has yet to see a single wand of dig with charges this game 05:28 that's all I can say lol 05:28 fh dragons are a bit more dangerous 05:28 FIQ, only silver/gray will resist WoD, right? 05:28 FIQ, I've noticed. I nearly clocked out to a silver one earlier 05:28 are you skilled in wands 05:29 ... no 05:29 Basic 05:29 then yeah they will 05:29 ... frig 05:29 and remember that fiqhack has partial resistances 05:29 FIQ, that's incredibly evil that ALL dragons resist the WoD somewhat :P 05:29 do you have teleportitis? 05:30 that is not true 05:30 only gray resists death magic completely 05:30 FIQ, er, you just said they did? I was planning to WoD the yellow and red one 05:30 silver will until you are skilled (where it will bypass reflection) 05:30 I can run from the other or at least get breathing lroom 05:30 yeah I meant they as in gray and silver 05:30 *phew* 05:30 also 05:30 * NCommander confirms he's not playing SLEX 05:30 fiqhack dragons move intelligently 05:31 if they can breathe 05:31 Noticed that 05:31 they will try to move in line to do so 05:31 if they can't 05:31 they will avoid being in line 05:31 unless they have no choice, in which they will pursue you in melee 05:31 to avoid being sitting ducks 05:32 they are also able to breathe in melee range (assuming they can breathe at all) 05:32 NCommander: mind restarting? I think that fixes watching 05:32 and makes ttyrec continue too 05:33 K2: please consider only compressing older ttyrecs 05:33 FIQ, did, I ended up WoDing the yellow, got two turns to get a scroll of teleportation and levelported up one ... onto medusa 05:33 Didn't realize how far I fell 05:33 ah 05:35 FIQ, on the plus side, I ended up in medusa's room, and got the boots and shield which is what I wanted 05:35 * NCommander still needs to decurse them but another ascension kit item completed 05:37 NCommander: it's good you were wielding the longbow at the time 05:37 that could have been bad 05:37 well I assume you were 05:37 can't watch lol 05:37 FIQ, I was. Longbow OP :) 05:37 I assume you have found out that breath sometimes (but not always) bypass reflection 05:38 worse, 1/9 of breaths will be at master level 05:38 meaning several explosions 05:43 FIQ, yeah, noticed that, I also got cancelled 05:44 FIQ, I need to find a magic trap to fix that, right? 05:51 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 05:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v theRaisse] by ChanServ 05:52 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:55 NCommander: yes 05:55 or drink gain energy 05:55 or read scroll of charging while confused 05:55 or pray 05:57 FIQ, prayer worked. I'm trying to see if the fort is accessible in this game, else debating if I want to risk the castle. Defense 40 SHOULD be high enough 05:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] DrakeMarshall (Nob Dro Fem Cha), 4 points, T:146, killed by a goblin, while reading a book 05:58 <[Demo]> rip 05:58 <[Demo]> hmm ok bot didnt go down 05:58 <[Demo]> so i actually kinda like fiqhack wand mastery or whatever its called now 06:00 [Demo], this is my second game in FIQHack, I blew up my first ranger due to stupidity, I may stop playing vanilla, though getting used to E being OP again is fun. 06:00 it's just called wands 06:00 the skill that is 06:00 <[Demo]> the balance patch has a name though or something 06:01 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Wands_Balance_Patch 06:01 <[Demo]> that yeah wands balance 06:01 <[Demo]> its still stupid and i dont like it but i like it 06:01 why is it stupid? :P 06:01 <[Demo]> cause sometimes it makes me die 06:02 <[Demo]> and therefore im not allowed to like it 06:02 yeah 06:02 but that's normal 06:02 when playing nethack 06:02 * NCommander notes he's been debating writing his own patch for a new role where your goal is to destroy the amulet of yendor 06:03 Start with the bell of opening, no quest, player alignment is unaligned. muhahaha 06:03 there has been some suggestions thrown around at some points to play as the bad guy 06:03 starting in Gehennom 06:04 and retrieving the Amulet and hand it to Moloch 06:05 <[Demo]> we need a mollusk monster 06:05 <[Demo]> so that moloch can send down mollusks of moloch 06:05 FIQ, my rough idea here is you're trying to prevent the balance of gods from changing. You found a strange silver bell as a child and had your mind opened. 06:05 NCommander: ah 06:05 All skills unrestricted, starting as basic, but no quest, and unaligned means you can't use any intelligent artifacts. 06:06 Endgame is to get to the Astral Plane and use the amulet to destroy all three high altars :) 06:06 how would you destroy the ammy 06:06 ah 06:06 <[Demo]> i still like the one where u have to fight the gods 06:06 * NCommander is reminded of Dudley's Dungeon when we see the view from the gods 06:06 esp. the P storm. 06:08 -!- [Demo] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:08 If I get that far 06:08 my end game is going to suck rocks 06:08 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 06:08 * NCommander has not found a single wand of dig 06:13 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 06:22 how tough is Vlad and his tower in dNetHack? 06:25 nevermind 06:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] Zxkuqyb (Ana Inc Mal Neu), 82113 points, T:14618, crushed to death by an exploding drawbridge 06:26 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:27 a shameful end.. 06:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] DrakeMarshall (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1003 06:42 FIQ, god RNG hates me 06:42 FIQ, there were more dragons on Dl:25 than what I saw before 06:42 FIQ, and a bad infestation of trolls 06:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] DrakeMarshall (Nob Dro Fem Cha), 3385 points, T:1912, killed by a watchman 07:00 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:10 [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 7047 points, T:4587, killed by a human monk 07:13 +0 helm of brillance and aggravate monster 07:13 I ... can't decide if that's worth it 07:19 [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 453 points, T:866, killed by a rock piercer 07:23 zxkuqyb, ouch 07:24 zxkuqyb, I always just use a wand of striking for the drawbridge 07:25 yeah, I did a force bold standing 2 tiles away from the bridge.. 07:25 totally my fault 07:26 [hdf-us] [nd] Tangles (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 619 points, T:1206, killed by an elf zombie 07:42 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:29757 07:46 Today I learned - don't drop crystal wands while levitating 07:46 Oops 07:47 Also potions. 07:48 On several occasions, after exploring some Gehennom levels, I'd bring my loot up to the Valley altar to ID it, forget that I had levitation on, and oops, no more potions. 07:48 (BUC-ID, I mean.) 07:55 hi 07:55 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 07:55 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-13 18:12 EST: pushed some minor fixes 07:55 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-14 02:22 EST: pushed a minor fix 07:55 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-14 05:27 EST: your watchmode is still doing weird stuff 07:56 !who 07:56 FIQ: [hdf-us] NCommander [fh] Zxkuqyb [dnh] 07:56 FIQ: [hdf-eu] firemonkey [nd] Raisse [nd] Kontroller [nd] 07:56 seems ok for now 07:56 but NCommander vanished from the watchlist for some time 07:56 FIQ you prob tried to watch a ttyrec during the one time a day the server zips up any lingering ttyrecs that dgl didnt zip at game end 07:56 possibly NCommander simply just restarted 07:56 K2: but NCommander's game was far from done 07:56 and that would explain why he disappeared from the watchlist 07:56 he was playing for hours invisible from watchmenu 07:57 his ttyrec was zipped whil ein game 07:57 while in 07:57 because his ttyrec was compressed before he was done 07:57 yeah 07:57 ok so 07:57 why aren't you checking last modified 07:57 or something 07:57 to avoid this 07:57 dgl is supposed to zip the ttyrec at game end but it doesnt always 07:58 yes I know so you set up a cronjob to take care of the rest once a day 07:58 FIQ: i dont know how to check for last modified 07:58 my question is, why aren't you reading last modified 07:58 FIQ: i dont know how to check for last modified 07:58 to avoid killing off running ttyrecs 07:58 something i've never had to learn before 07:58 i will look into it 07:58 https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/187966/calculate-date-difference-between-last-modified-date-of-a-file-and-now-using-she 07:59 and then based on the result, possibly avoid messing with a certain file 08:01 love that message... 08:03 FIQ for now i'll change the cronjob from once a day to once a week until i figure out how to do the last modified check bit 08:03 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed the ghost of Eir III, the former Warrior, on T:30963 08:04 cool 08:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Zxkuqyb (Ana Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1923 08:10 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 08:13 K2, that's a great message 08:14 :) 08:16 [hdf-us] [nd] Tangles (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 268 points, T:798, killed by a wererat 08:35 !tell K2 pushed a fix 08:35 Will do, FIQ! 08:41 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 87693 points, T:32759, petrified by a soldier, while unable to move due to turning to stone 08:41 !lastgame 08:41 FIQ: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NCommander/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-12-14%2013%3A41%3A38%2C%20NCommander-Ran-Elf-Mal-Cha%2C%20died.txt 08:42 ugh 08:42 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-14 08:35 EST: pushed a fix 08:42 have had that happen to me a couple times 08:42 Ugh 08:42 FIQHack is brutal. That was not an easy run. At least I got a unique death out of it 08:47 looks like a potential vanilla bug here, I'll look into testing 3.4.3-3.6 too 08:50 FIQ, at least I found a bug :) 08:57 swing and a miss! you're stoned! 08:58 missed twice 09:00 and here I am.. dying to an owlbear while stressed.. 09:03 NCommander: and I am slightly less embarrassed knowing I didn't introduce it 09:03 jonadab: pushed a fix to my nethack4 repo 09:05 FIQ, interesting NH4 introduced it and not a vanilla bug. I won't think much would change the eating mechanics. 09:06 nethack4 did it as part of a refactor 09:06 not realizing the implication 09:07 * NCommander will successfully ascend a ranger sooner or later 09:07 sorry for the issue 09:07 !tell K2 pushed a fix to FIQHack 09:07 Will do, FIQ! 09:16 ok 09:16 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-14 09:07 EST: pushed a fix to FIQHack 09:16 will get to it soon 09:21 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:22 [hdf-us] [4k] Stabby McStab (CrabNickelson) (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 453 points, T:737, killed by kicking a wall 09:40 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:43 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:48 [hdf-us] [nd] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:15800 09:55 FIQ: BrowersHack in qupzilla is the same as BrowserHack in Opera. 09:55 i.e., still "Loading... This may take a while for the first time." the next day. 09:55 jonadab: that makes no sense because it works fine for me with qupzilla *on openpandora* 09:55 [hdf-us] [4k] TylerBB (CrabNickelson) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 5664 points, T:2736, killed by a giant ant, while fainted from lack of food 09:56 FIQ: Dunno, maybe it wants a plugin I don't have, or something. 09:56 I have no plugins... just default setup 09:56 may I remind you that I choose qupzilla for it being lightweight 09:56 adding plugins/etc would be highly counterproductive 09:57 Dunno then. My qupzilla may be slightly out of date, but not horribly so. (This is Devuan stable, jessie.) 09:58 If the thing on the browser-side were trying to listen on a port to get stuff sent from the server, that would not work here. But I would think that that would not work for a LOT of people -- doesn't most AV software block that these days? 10:00 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:11 -!- nikheizen has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:26 yes I highly doubt it does thta 10:27 *that 10:29 Right, I was just thinking of anything that could cause it to not work here. 10:30 qupzilla is not configured at all, just completely stock defaults. 10:30 So my first guess is that it needs an _extremely_ recent browser and my qupzilla is a few months too old. Second guess is it wants Flash or something that I don't have installed. 10:31 Third guess is it pulls in Javascript from a domain that OpenDNS blocks. 10:32 (Or some other resource.) 10:38 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 10:42 [hdf-us] [4k] Comme Ci (Ssach) (Wiz Syl Fem Neu), 4593 points, T:949, died of strangulation 10:44 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 10:45 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 10:48 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 10:50 [hdf-us] [nd] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:18555 10:50 [hdf-us] [4k] Catch these Hands (Ssach) (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 840 points, T:411, killed by a force bolt 10:56 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 11:06 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 11:06 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 11:08 FIQHack updates just broke 150 11:09 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:09 heh 11:09 since what date? 11:10 since I started keeping logs, which is sometime in July 11:10 good lord 11:11 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 11:11 well... that's a good thing 11:11 most of those updates have been bug fixes 11:17 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:21 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 11:28 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Raisse suddenly disappears!] 11:28 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 11:28 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 11:28 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 11:30 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:35 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:39 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 12:03 !players 12:03 K2: [hdf-us] No current players 12:03 K2: [hdf-eu] elenmirie [nd] 12:07 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:10 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 12:13 -!- [Demo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:36 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:20 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 13:29 [hdf-us] [fh] BeforeJavaMan, there was C Man (Luxidream) (Arc Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:5902 14:12 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 14:19 -!- [Demo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:19 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 14:20 <[Demo]> ok think im back up for good if the gods are pleased as punch 14:25 [hdf-us] [fh] BeforeJavaMan, there was C Man (Luxidream) (Arc Hum Mal Law) became the Hand of Elbereth, on T:16809 14:49 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 15:06 [hdf-us] [4k] Hamilton VI (CrabNickelson) (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2058 points, T:790, killed by a jackal 15:07 [hdf-us] [4k] Steve (CrabNickelson) (Arc Hum Mal Law), 300 points, T:166, killed by a jackal 15:10 [hdf-us] [4k] Drake (CrabNickelson) (Arc Hum Mal Law), 450 points, T:379, killed by a jackal 15:16 -!- deadnoob has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:16 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 15:22 [hdf-us] [nd] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:19350 15:27 [hdf-us] [nd] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:19453 15:30 [hdf-us] [fh] softfought.org (Luxidream) (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 36283 points, T:2615, killed by a soldier ant 15:48 [hdf-us] [nd] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:20738 15:49 !tell LarienTelrunya slex idea: can of Bad-Away. Is a charged tool that can be applied to adjacent monsters, and only affects them if they're unaligned. Blessed teleports/destroys them, uncursed works like turn undead, cursed turns them invisible. 15:49 Will do, aosdict! 15:55 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:58 <[Demo]> time to try to use fafnir 16:13 [hdf-us] [nd] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed +3 greased rustproof helm of telepathy", on T:21873 16:16 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 16:16 [hdf-us] [nd] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:21888 16:17 <[Demo]> "The gremlin multiplies! monster already dead? Program in disorder - you should probably S)ave and reload the game. The crow misses. The crow misses. The gremlin multiplies!" uh oh 16:17 <[Demo]> whoops meant to send to <#389216962988867596> oh well 16:17 <[Demo]> oh cool that got broken 16:17 <[Demo]> double oh well 16:21 [hdf-us] [nd] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed +3 greased fireproof T-shirt", on T:21890 16:22 [hdf-us] [nd] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed +3 silver saber", on T:21902 16:22 [hdf-us] [nd] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:21921 16:22 [hdf-us] [nd] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:21922 16:27 [hdf-us] [nd] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:22127 16:36 <[Demo]> so cthulhu fucked me up good 16:45 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:16586 16:45 [hdf-us] [nd] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayer, on T:22706 16:48 <[Demo]> so im dumb so im gonna go back 16:52 [hdf-us] [nd] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class R, on T:22755 16:54 <[Demo]> @d?great cthulhu 16:54 Great Cthulhu (&) | Lvl: 100 | Diff: 51 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire cold disintegrate shock poison acid petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 127 | Generates: unique | AC: 0 | Attacks: 100d4 claw physical, 1d10 gaze wisdom, 8d8 passive poison | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, flies, swims, seeinvis, metallivore, nopoly 16:55 <[Demo]> speed 15 hmm i always thought he was like speed 4 16:58 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 17:06 [hdf-us] [nd] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:23212 17:12 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 17:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:38 [hdf-us] [nd] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:24630 17:48 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Bar Hum Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "spike", on T:3465 18:03 -!- nikheizen has joined #hardfought 18:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 171 points, T:430, killed by a scroll of earth 18:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Pri Hlf Mal Neu), 375 points, T:587, killed by a water moccasin 18:18 !tell K2 I have now teached monsters how to master the task of jumping. They are ready to apply this knowledge in practice, but need your help to update some software on your server 18:18 Will do, FIQ! 18:19 *the art of jumping 18:27 interesting 18:27 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-14 18:18 EST: I have now teached monsters how to master the task of jumping. They are ready to apply this knowledge in practice, but need your help to update some software on your server 18:27 good timing i just got in 18:28 what do you need updated/installed? 18:28 fiqhack 18:28 :p 18:28 oh 18:28 hahah 18:28 i thought some lib or something had to be included 18:28 no, I need several new dependecies for this advanced new feature 18:28 :P 18:29 <[Demo]> is fiqhack buggy and fun? 18:29 it's not that buggy anymore 18:29 pretty stable nowdays 18:30 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 18:30 you had like 2 bugs reported today :P 18:30 [Demo]: ask ##nethack-variants 18:30 they like it 18:30 aosdict: one of them wasn't even a fiqhack bug 18:30 well I guess the bug existed in fiqhack 18:30 but that doesn't count :P 18:30 <[Demo]> i like fun bugs 18:31 -!- bouquet has quit [Client Quit] 18:31 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 18:31 [Demo]: anyway, you can read the changes fiqhack has in here: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/FIQHack 18:31 and conclude if you think it sounds fun or not from that 18:31 !who 18:31 FIQ: [hdf-us] jonathanhanes [fh] naeroon [fh] Grasshopper [nd] 18:31 FIQ: [hdf-eu] Kontroller [nd] 18:32 as long as you maintain your high development speed, I think general stability will be harder to reach, but since nearly all of the bugs aren't fatal it still works out 18:32 <[Demo]> whatever happens it wont be as unstable as slex 18:32 aosdict: I suppose 18:33 <[Demo]> oh hey u made the quest change 18:33 aosdict: but I mean, it has gotten progressively less buggy over time 18:33 <[Demo]> i guess ill play for junethack this year then 18:33 in 2016, I remember Mandevil finding basically a bug every other dungeon level 18:33 it was kinda bad 18:33 the fixes was just as rapid back then, which helped of course 18:33 but yea 18:33 h 18:33 and even this junethack, astral had a tendency to crash 18:34 but lately people can actually complete full games without running into bugs 18:34 so yeah 18:34 it has gotten better 18:36 aosdict: and I think it was over a month ago that the game actually segfaulted 18:36 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 18:36 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 18:36 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 18:37 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 18:37 <[Demo]> "Pressing > or < when not at a stair will prompt for travelling to a > or < respectively without needing to invoke _ first" fiq ur cool 18:38 it is pretty convenient 18:38 allthough I don't use it much myself due to muscle memory :P 18:38 That should be pretty easy to port to 3.6. 18:38 <[Demo]> oh please do it sounds fantastic 18:38 be careful, it has a known tiny corner-case bug atm 18:39 tried to track down the reason but wasn't able to so I held off for now 18:39 stepping over a different staircase leading the same direction as the one you were headed to will make you go down it 18:39 (or up) 18:40 -!- ais523 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:40 -!- callforjudgement has joined #hardfought 18:40 -!- callforjudgement is now known as ais523 18:41 -!- bouquet has quit [Client Quit] 18:41 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 18:47 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 18:55 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:01 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 19:01 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 19:05 -!- StatueSurfer_ has joined #hardfought 19:07 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:08 is it wrong to kill shopkeeps if you have extrinsic slotless telepathy? 19:10 what do you mean by "wrong"? 19:10 murder is generally frowned on in real life 19:10 in-game, it rather depends on how much (and what sort of character) you're roleplaying 19:10 well i want their money 19:11 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 19:11 i need it more than they do 19:11 obviously 19:11 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 19:11 money is almost useless in NetHack 19:12 especially if you can kill shopkeepers 19:12 almost useless 19:12 but not entirely 19:12 yeah if you're high enough level to kill shopkeepers they don't carry enough money to be useful 19:12 raiding vaults is a better option 19:13 but what if they don't want to let you in because you're invisible and you don't fee like putting on a mummy wrap? 19:13 you can dig or teleport in 19:13 don't quote me on the digging in part 19:13 then you can kill them for their prejudice against invisible people 19:13 teleporting in works 19:14 can't imagine why they'd be prejudiced against people they can't see entering their shops 19:14 which is actually one of the most reasonable aspects of shopkeep behavior 19:14 if you're trying to make shopkeeps out to be evil there are better examples than that 19:14 he died like a dog and i took his stuff 19:15 i took an alignment penatly 19:15 i will offer my ill-gotten gains and receive favor from my god 19:16 they only carry like a 1000 gold or so 19:16 2200 each 19:17 roughly 19:17 enough for 1 pt ac 19:17 imagine that 19:17 your life being worth 1/2 a pt of ac 19:17 thats heavy man 19:17 imagine killing multiple people for one point of AC 19:17 that's cold man 19:19 wait not killing 19:19 *murdering 19:19 yah it was straight up murder 19:21 !tell K2 pushed a fix 19:21 Will do, FIQ! 19:21 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 19:21 ok 19:21 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-14 19:21 EST: pushed a fix 19:21 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 19:26 -!- bouquet has quit [Client Quit] 19:26 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 19:27 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 19:28 cool 19:29 'daddy, what's ack for?' 19:29 she was reading AC 19:29 <[Demo]> u gotta teach ur kids to play nethack 19:30 'ack' is the sound you make when you see a minotaur in mine's end 19:30 heh 19:30 [Demo] thats the plan 19:30 <[Demo]> get them going with wizard mode 19:30 StatueSurfer_: haha 19:30 <[Demo]> so they can learn how to spell 19:30 <[Demo]> cause you gotta spell it right to wish for it 19:30 she's *this* close to being able to read a book on her own 19:30 <[Demo]> thats how i learned to spell 19:32 k2 that's good most nethack characters can't read books on their own 19:35 heh 19:36 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 19:36 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 19:36 -!- StatueSurfer_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] DrakeMarshall (Bar Hlf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +3 premium heart", on T:2853 19:39 !who 19:39 K2: [hdf-us] jonathanhanes [fh] naeroon [fh] k2 [gh] Grasshopper [nd] DrakeMarshall [dnh] 19:39 K2: [hdf-eu] Kontroller [nd] 19:41 -!- bouquet has quit [Client Quit] 19:41 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 19:46 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 19:46 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 19:51 -!- bouquet has quit [Client Quit] 19:51 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 19:54 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed magic marker", on T:18167 19:55 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed fixed magic marker", on T:18169 19:56 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 19:56 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 20:01 -!- bouquet has quit [Client Quit] 20:01 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 20:05 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed potions of gain level", on T:18208 20:06 [hdf-us] [fh] JH (jonathanhanes) (Tou Hum Mal Neu) became the Envoy of Balance, on T:18258 20:06 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed fixed magic marker", on T:18211 20:29 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 20:30 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 20:32 -!- oh6_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:33 -!- aaron__ has joined #hardfought 20:33 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:37 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:37 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:40 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 20:41 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 20:41 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 20:46 -!- bouquet has quit [Client Quit] 20:46 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 20:49 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 20:51 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 20:51 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 20:53 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#hardfought 21:22 OH YEAH 21:22 so I immediately got out all my gold and dumped it on the shop floor 21:22 then ran out 21:23 waited for the dwarf to pick up the gold and leave, then.... 21:23 yay! I get shop credit and get my gold back too :D 21:23 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:25 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 21:25 -!- aaron__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:26 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:27 -!- aaron__ has joined #hardfought 21:29 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:30 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:19393 21:30 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:19394 21:30 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 21:32 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:33 -!- aaron__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:41 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 21:44 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 21:45 <[Demo]> why cant i throw mjollnir down a hole and have it return to my hand? 21:46 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:46 why would you throw mjollnir down a hole is a better question 21:46 <[Demo]> to snipe a bitch on the level below 21:47 but that doesn't actually work 21:48 that would also be pretty broken if it did work 21:48 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:48 unless you wouldn't mind getting randomly blasted everytime you walked past a hole 21:48 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 21:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 21:48 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 21:48 [Demo], the answer is the you are just not worthy 21:49 the/that 21:50 <[Demo]> why cant i fling lava at things? 21:50 what would you put the lava in 21:50 a lamp 21:51 <[Demo]> ur hands 21:51 then you'd have a lava lamp 21:51 what is this, minecraft 21:51 fiq on the spell that you get with crowning i get the message "You strain to recall the spell" on each cast 21:51 > ur hands 21:51 bye hands 21:51 <[Demo]> yeah u ever been fire resistant? 21:51 fire resistance doesn't actually keep you from dying in lava lol 21:51 <[Demo]> u suffocate 21:51 <[Demo]> not burn 21:51 !tell FIQ on the spell that you get with crowning i get the message "You strain to recall the spell" on each cast 21:51 Will do, Jonathanhanes_! 21:52 <[Demo]> or i guess get stuck forever 21:52 <[Demo]> i dont recall 21:52 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 21:52 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:52 <[Demo]> uh yeah sinking below the surface makes u die not burning 21:52 the answer to that would in any event be "game balance" 21:53 although frankly it wouldn't be that helpful 21:53 if you had magical breathing then you could stay alive indefinitely 21:53 or until you starved anyway 21:53 <[Demo]> but u cant 21:53 because lava tends to be generated in places featuring fire resistant monsters 21:53 okay so confirmed lava burns you to death no matter what? 21:54 <[Demo]> doesnt burn you 21:54 <[Demo]> if you have fire resistance 21:54 <[Demo]> you die when you sink under even if you have magical breathing 21:54 but that doesn't make any sense 21:54 if it doesn't burn you to death then magical breathing should keep you alive 21:54 <[Demo]> nore does not being able to fling it at shit 21:55 maybe alive, but never get another turn 21:55 <[Demo]> or not being able to throw mjollnir down holes and have it return 21:55 you are not worthy 21:55 again: if you don't mind getting randomly blasted every time you walk past a hole 21:55 i'll give you throwing mjollnir down holes 21:55 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:55 or just randomly blasted in general 21:56 <[Demo]> who is blasting me? 21:56 because monsters above might hit you 21:56 monsters with wands 21:56 arrows 21:56 daggers 21:56 spells 21:56 projectiles in general 21:56 <[Demo]> the level system really wouldnt work for that but that would be pretty funny 21:56 and that's why you can't toss mjollnir down holes to damage monsters below 21:57 [hdf-us] [fh] Naeroon (naeroon) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 14348 points, T:1046, killed by a bugbear 21:57 now i want an official answer for what happens when you sink into lava 21:58 because if you don't burn w/ fire resistance 21:58 and you can't suffocate with magical breathing 21:58 then what happens down there 21:59 but in any event flinging lava around wouldn't be all that helpful 21:59 <[Demo]> but it would be funny 22:04 I'm still not sure why you sink into lava. Surely a body would be lighter than molten rock. 22:05 I mean, buoyancy would dictate that you sink partway, but still. 22:06 ^ 22:06 it really feels like you should just be able to climb out if you're fire resistant 22:06 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 22:06 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 22:07 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 22:10 so, magma density is about 2500 kg/cubic meter, and the average human adult weighs 62 kg 22:11 -!- bouquet has quit [Client Quit] 22:11 so you would have to displace about 2.5% of a cubic meter to equalize 22:11 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 22:12 so that's about 25 liters 22:14 so you would be in... around up to your waist, or hips? 22:17 -!- Jonathanhanes_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:18 -!- Jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 22:25 okay well now there's a 60% chance the next artifact i'm gifted will be acceptable 22:25 since i just got ogresmasher 22:27 ogres masher 22:27 er, ogres' masher 22:27 aka the worst artifact in the game 22:28 I have plans for ogresmasher. 22:28 a long sword of equal enchantment does more damage to ogres than ogresmasher 22:28 "They once laughed at you, scorned you... but once I'm done with you... nobody will ever make fun of you again!" type stuff 22:29 <[Demo]> dnh makes ogresmasher great 22:29 StatueSurfer: that is mainly because of the silly war hammer stuff 22:29 but still 22:29 that's just pathetic 22:29 wait, are you in 3.6.1? 22:29 yeah 22:30 try wielding it. 22:30 no 22:30 why not? 22:30 i know what new gimmick they added 22:30 the CON=25 thing 22:31 <[Demo]> its so much better in dnh cause u get an hp recalc and can do it from alternate weapon slot 22:31 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 22:31 ooh look i have 25 CON now 22:31 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 22:32 which is pretty much worthless since i have to wield a trash weapon and i'm at max carry capacity anyway 22:32 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 22:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 22:35 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:36 -!- bouquet has quit [Client Quit] 22:36 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 22:39 aosdict: what are you going to give ogresmasher 22:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] DrakeMarshall (Bar Hlf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10012 22:42 inspired by Entitas, and somewhere near the bottom of the yani page (gah, I really wish I could permalink these): 22:42 "Ogresmasher doesn't need bonuses versus ogres, or confer beneficial properties. It is simply an oversized sledgehammer with such terrible crushing power that it splatters anything it's swung at." 22:42 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 22:43 It's named Ogresmasher more or less incidentally. 22:43 oh wow 22:43 I tamed an ape by throwing a banana at it :D 22:43 yeah that's a thing in 361 22:44 I've tried it before in 360 and been disappointed 22:44 now I'm happy 22:44 I'll call this guy alf 22:45 I know Alf was an orangutan but anyway close enough 22:45 who's YANI page aosdict 22:45 call him the Librarian :D 22:45 like which one 22:45 mine 22:46 which one is that 22:46 ho boy prepare for a looong read... https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Phol_ende_wodan/YANI/IRC_archive 22:46 also https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Phol_ende_wodan/YANI 22:46 but the first one is the one with that Entitas suggestion 22:47 yeah i just did ctrl-f for ogresmasher 22:47 Hm, that's the only ogresmasher idea. Neat. 22:47 how small is "sufficiently small" to you 22:48 also if it's so oversized its weight should be increased 22:48 I dunno. MZ_TINY probably. 22:48 There aren't a whole ton of MZ_TINY monsters though 22:48 i figured MZ_SMALL 22:48 so maybe that, yes 22:48 tbh i was worried you were gonna say something like medium 22:56 !tell ais523 I just found your expanded intro, it's good but where does the Wizard come in? 22:56 Will do, aosdict! 22:56 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 22:56 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 22:57 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 23:00 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:04 One of my pets polyed into a cobra, it is now lv7 and spitting at everyone in Minetown - priest, watch captains, shopkeepers etc 23:04 but not actually *attacking* them as they are too high level 23:05 it's kind-of amusing, seeing the MT citizens getting constantly spat at (and they remain calm, although a shopkeep ID'd healing potion for me by drinking it to cure blindness) 23:06 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 23:06 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 23:07 does cobra venom do damage? 23:11 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 23:11 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 23:16 -!- bouquet has quit [Client Quit] 23:16 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 23:21 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 23:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 23:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] DrakeMarshall (Bar Hlf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:12682 23:46 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 23:46 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 23:51 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:51 -!- bouquet has quit [Client Quit] 23:51 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 23:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6] by ChanServ 23:51 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 23:54 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 23:56 -!- bouquet has quit [Client Quit] 23:56 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 23:59 what's the maximum number of items a single square can hold?