00:01 [hdf-us] [fh] Elph (Jendic) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 61403 points, T:16114, killed by a priest of Ptah 00:03 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 00:14 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 00:20 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 00:45 "You open the chest..." "A food ration lands on the altar. You feel clumsy! You haven't been working your reflexes lately." 00:45 Feels like I just got busted raiding the fridge 00:45 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 00:48 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 01:09 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 01:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 01:09 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 01:11 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 01:13 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:14 -!- bouquet_ has joined #hardfought 01:15 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:42 -!- bouquet_ has quit [Quit: bouquet_] 01:42 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:57 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 02:07 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 02:07 -!- lorimer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:19 [hdf-us] [fh] blah (mtf) (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:7638 02:27 does disintegration resistance protect your stuff as well as you in vanilla? 02:28 Reflection will reflect a blast of disintegration, but not a wide angle disintegration beam. You can gain disintegration resistance, by eating an adult black dragon corpse, by wearing black dragon scales, black dragon scale mail, or by polymorphing into any black dragon. This will protect you from both sources of disintegration, and your armor from a dragon's blast. 02:29 (and it protects worn items too) 02:29 however, the wide-angle disintegration beam used by angry gods will destroy stuff unless the items themselves are disintegration resistant 02:30 yeah i don't plan on eating a wide-angle disintegration beam from a god 02:30 i'm just worried about the black dragons 02:30 since i don't have reflection 02:31 with the resistance you should be immune 02:31 okay and like my cloak of MR won't get destroyed? 02:32 just wizmoded in 3.4.3 (it should be the same for 3.6.0), it gives "You are not disintegrated." and the cloak is still there :) 02:35 okay 02:35 thank you 02:38 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:40 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 02:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 02:45 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:46 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 02:46 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 02:53 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:54 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 02:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 02:57 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 02:57 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:57 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 02:58 !tell K2 pushed a fix 02:58 Will do, FIQ! 03:00 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:01 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 03:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 03:07 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:08 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 03:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 03:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Zxkuqyb (Ana Inc Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13118 03:45 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:49 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 03:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 03:52 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:07 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:02 hm.. scroll of sketch of the wings of garuda? 05:03 also, are there any drawbacks of using ring of regen on Incantifier? 05:32 -!- Grassy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:35 how do I deal with hungry dead? o-o 05:35 oh it died 05:38 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 05:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 05:38 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 05:55 -!- [Demo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:55 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 06:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tangles (Mon Hlf Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:15530 06:14 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:29 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:32 jonadab: I tried the discline thing. It kind of works, but the project seems rather immature and unstable atm: http://home.fiq.se/discline.png 06:39 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 06:43 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:48 -!- Tarmunora_ has joined #hardfought 06:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tangles (Mon Hlf Mal Cha) averted death, on T:15885 06:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tangles (Mon Hlf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:15886 06:51 that could have gone better. 06:51 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:54 wow, there are variants where Vlad can actually kill you? 06:54 yes 06:54 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-12 02:58 EST: pushed a fix 06:56 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 06:59 Hi K2 06:59 heya 06:59 hows it goin? 07:00 not too bad... just taking it easy. 07:00 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 07:00 nice 07:00 about to head to work 07:01 winter storm warning in effect, should get a fair amount of snow today 07:01 ah right.... I was going to say I just got home, but actually it's 11pm here, so that was a while ago. 07:01 stay safe! 07:02 its not bad, only a foot or so of snow. love it 07:02 snow = skiing :) 07:02 sounds nice actually :) 07:03 the only crappy part is having to prep for longer commute times 07:03 so what did you do exactly to the bot to get it to report the eu server games? 07:04 was it a change in the botconf? 07:04 No. I just added some missing lines to the logReport function. 07:04 ah ok 07:05 https://github.com/NHTangles/beholder/commit/50c40cc7e28cadde58ddb8a9e862a565987a15bf 07:06 the slave wasn't actually reporting back to the master. 07:09 i gotta learn more programming 07:10 i looked at your commits last night and saw the title but i guess i didnt get it 07:10 was so tired last night, went to bed early 07:11 All good.... I'm thinking I may do the same tonight. 07:11 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:19 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:24 i needed to, was sleep deprived over last few days 07:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Zxkuqyb (Ana Inc Mal Neu), 159686 points, T:19879, killed by an ochre jelly 07:25 dude.. 07:26 :C 07:26 :/ 07:27 from like +20 hp to -12 in one splash 07:27 didn't know the jellies is so painful 07:27 are* 07:33 off to work see you from there 07:35 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 07:36 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Read error: No route to host] 08:38 YANI: MZ_GIGANTIC monsters can't move onto any space for which any two of the adjacent spaces opposite from each other are non-walkable. Same for MZ_HUGE, but requiring 2 or 3 pairs of nonwalkable spaces. 09:02 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:03 -!- khoR_ has joined #hardfought 09:04 -!- khoR has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:05 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:14 -!- firemonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:21 -!- firemonkey has joined #hardfought 09:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 09:59 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 10:03 Hmm, I feel like I should add some thiefstone rumors. 10:10 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 10:12 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 10:12 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 10:12 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:13 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 10:20 they say a thiefstone will make you rock hard in bed 10:21 uh... sure you're not thinking of some slex petrification stone? 10:21 or is that a cockatrice corpse? sometimes i get confused 10:21 i blame demogorgon 10:22 we had a big fight. i had to kill him 10:22 ugh. thiefstone shows up as an apply-able item when I'm carrying this touchstone, but not otherwise. What? 10:28 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Raisse suddenly disappears!] 10:28 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 10:28 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v theRaisse] by ChanServ 10:31 [hdf-us] [fh] Elph (Jendic) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the archeologist of HI BILLY MAZE HERE, the former Digger, on T:4983 10:31 I love how you can just tell when it's a Luxidream name 10:34 -!- Tarmunora__ has joined #hardfought 10:37 -!- Tarmunora_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:37 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 10:38 -!- nikheizen has joined #hardfought 10:40 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 10:48 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:56 -!- firemonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:04 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 11:37 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 11:42 -!- zxkuqyb has joined #hardfought 11:44 -!- zxkuqyb_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:48 [hdf-us] [slex] aeoo (Bin Dee Mal Cha), 113 points, T:509, killed by a monster (clockwork dwarf) 11:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] aeoo (Bin Hum Mal Non), 0 points, T:89, killed by a newt 11:56 ^ binders are not any easier in any variant 11:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] aeoo (Bin Hum Mal Non), 0 points, T:84, killed by a poisonous corpse 12:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1667 12:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) was given Cleaver, on T:2212 12:18 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:20 bug: you can be trapped inside a shop, with no means of escaping, if a monster reads a scroll of earth and it fills the doorway 12:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:20 why is this specific to a shop? 12:21 couldn't it happen in any room? 12:21 and even then, can't you drop a lot of stuff and squeeze past? 12:21 no, the shk won't move 12:22 and there's 2 boulders, one in the doorway and one behind it 12:22 theoretically I could kill the shk and then squeeze out but that's not really practical for a lvl 8 orc barb 12:23 oh, hm, I can get him to move 12:23 ... can monsters leave squares with boulders? 12:25 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 12:27 aosdict: I've had that happen in Sokoban. Centaur picked up the two scrolls of earth, stood in a doorway between me and the Sokoban exit, read both. 12:28 I escaped though 12:28 with the power of force bolt at 98% fail 12:28 rikersan: Monsters can _leave_ a tile that has boulders on it, just as you can. The thing most monsters can't do is _enter_ a tile with boulders on it. 12:28 There are, of course, exceptions. 12:29 (Anything unsolid, anything that can phase, and giants.) 12:43 -!- bouquet_ has joined #hardfought 12:52 ENLC00xydNV"iyW==;Cffw 12:53 don't paste passwords publicly 12:53 -!- bouquet_ has quit [Quit: bouquet_] 12:57 dang 12:59 That's much too short to be a password. 13:00 my pswd is 'hunter2', so I don't think that's too short at all 13:09 -!- rikersan has quit [] 13:09 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 13:13 -!- rikersan has quit [Client Quit] 13:17 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 13:26 Hmm. Someone in here the other day linked to this BrowserHack thing. I opened it, and it put up a progress bar animation, "Loading... This may take a while for the first time." Minimzed and forgot about it. 13:26 Noticed it today. It _still_ has the progress bar animation. 13:26 I think I will just close it now.l 13:27 jonadab: please 13:27 did you expect it to work with just HTML and CSS? 13:27 FIQ: No, no, I opened it in Opera. 13:27 oh 13:27 Which has All The Things enabled. 13:27 opera is too old 13:27 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 13:27 it was before JS engines got fast 13:28 so not really usable 13:28 for this 13:28 is opera still actively developed? 13:28 jonadab: try qupzilla if you want something lightweight simple 13:28 aosdict: Yes... kind of 13:28 aosdict: sort of kind of. They abandoned their rendering engine and just wrap webkit now. 13:29 yeah 13:29 exactly 13:29 Which disappointed me significantly. 13:29 well, Blink 13:29 but yeah 13:29 Because I like having multiple rendering engines competing. 13:29 But whatever. 13:29 jonadab: yes, I agree that opera abandoning their own engine was a loss 13:29 opera used to be my main browser 13:29 but ultimately you just have to deal with it 13:30 I never used Opera as my _main_ browser, but I've used it as an auxilliary browser for a long time. 13:30 also, there is still multiple rendering engines competing 13:30 Gecko, WebKit, and whatever MS Edge's engine is called 13:30 Hmm. 13:31 jonadab: anyway, if you want to try browserhack 13:31 I was trying to decide if Edge should count. 13:31 use something newer than opera 12 13:31 Given that most folks who use a Microsoft browser use IE still. 13:31 asm.js was designed for more recent js engines 13:31 with better optimizations 13:31 In other words, it's an unconscionable resource hog. 13:31 and there is even asm.js-specific optimizations now, due to how prevalent it became 13:32 jonadab: meh 13:32 asm.js is fair game 13:32 the fact that everything js is so bloat today 13:32 is unrelated to asm.js 13:32 I do have qupzilla here. 13:32 Which hasn't impressed me thus far, but I have it. 13:32 it has a recent enough engine to work 13:32 with browserhack 13:33 I got it running on my openpandora 13:33 and you know how great its specs are 13:33 Ah. Indeed. 13:33 jonadab: anyway, like I said yesterday or so 13:34 not a big fan of the browserhack interface 13:34 but it's cool that it works 13:34 and my gripes with the interface seems easily fixable in comparision to, you know 13:34 Sure, I wasn't expecting to want to play the game that way. 13:34 actually getting it running 13:34 that way 13:34 yeah 13:35 jonadab: clearly libuncursed should have a browser addon :) 13:38 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 13:39 aosdict: ya... Keepass autotype is awesome but I need to put in a general rule to not type in my IRC window. 13:39 at least there's no clue where that combination goes. Changed it anyway. 13:47 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 14:00 whyyy does it only recognize the thiefstone as appliable when I have other appliable gray stones in inventory 14:01 makes no sense 14:03 Oh, the "which objects make sense for this verb" code, that is a lot of fun to dig around in. 14:03 it's basically two giant if statements 14:04 which means gcc will probably optimize most of it 14:04 fun 14:04 aosdict: in apply.c, look for calls to uhave_graystone() 14:04 class_list = tools_too; 14:05 In other words, if you are carrying an appliable gray stone, all gems show up as appliable. 14:05 that makes absolutely no sense 14:05 ^ 14:05 I didn't write it. 14:05 sometimes I fear for the sanity of nethack devs 14:06 I'm just readin' what it sez. 14:06 both variant and vanilla 14:06 uhave_graystone() uses is_graystone() to determine if any of your inventory items are gray stones. 14:06 Which is defined in obj.h 14:07 Yeah, is_graystone should be accepting thiefstones, I changed that a while back. 14:08 The problem is in getobj(), as far as I can tell. 14:09 jonadab: grepping for uhave_graystone only turns up one match in a list of functions in sys/msdos. Maybe it was recently removed. 14:10 Oh, hmm. 14:11 Maybe 3.6 changes how doapply() decides which object classes are appliable. 14:11 [hdf-us] [fh] SLIPPAGE 2.0 (Luxidream) (Kni Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased stethoscope named what's up HF chat", on T:1 14:11 [hdf-us] [fh] SLIPPAGE 2.0 (Luxidream) (Kni Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased horn of plenty named how yall doin", on T:2 14:11 Ah, yes, it calls something called setapplyclasses() 14:12 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:12 if (otyp == TOUCHSTONE || (is_graystone(otmp) && (!otmp->dknown || (!knowtouchstone && !objects[otyp].oc_name_known)))) addstones = TRUE; 14:14 [hdf-us] [fh] SLIPPAGE 2.0 (Luxidream) (Kni Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased -5 vorpal blade", on T:23 14:14 nMinus 5? 14:14 In other words, gems are appliable if you are carrying a touchstone, or if you are carrying a gray stone and officially don't know if it's a touchstone or not. 14:14 Yeah, but a thiefstone should always be appliable. 14:15 aosdict: Then make that (otyp == TOUCHSTONE || otype == THIEFSTONE || ... 14:15 That'd make gems appliable if you were carrying a thiefstone and not a touchstone though 14:15 And actually, you might want to further complicate it for unidentified thiefstones. 14:15 Oh, true. 14:16 Ah, in that case, maybe you want to make the change in doapply() itself. 14:16 Hmmmmmmmmm 14:16 Thiefstone with !oc_name_known = appliable. 14:16 See all the special-cased appliable things there? Cream pies, etc.? 14:16 With oc_name known = not appliable. 14:17 [hdf-us] [fh] much theef very rock (Luxidream) (Kni Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 holy partly eaten segfault blade", on T:1 14:17 Oh, wait. That's the part that does what happens _when_ you apply them. 14:18 obj = getobj(class_list, "use or apply") 14:18 Hmm. 14:18 Seems like it's got to be all or nothing, either gem-class objects are appliable, or they ain't. 14:18 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:18 Unless you want to duplicate or refactor getobj() 14:19 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 14:19 Maybe make it take negative numbers in the list for specific objects, or something. 14:19 Ugh. 14:19 Can't believe i just suggested that. 14:19 Exposure to the NetHack codebase is destroying my common sense. 14:19 Well, the getobj() if statement, if it evals to true, should result in the item NOT being picked, right? 14:22 [hdf-us] [fh] much theef very rock (Luxidream) (Kni Dwa Mal Law) wished for "cursed historic greased the Amulet of Yendor named I win", on T:4 14:22 So currently it's saying a * object that's not a gray stone shouldn't go on the list. 14:22 But then there has to be some exception to that somewhere... 14:31 !tell K2 Pushed a fix to a nethack4 bug in FIQHack 14:31 Will do, FIQ! 14:35 -!- zxkuqyb has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:36 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 14:38 jonadab: Oh, I see, setapplyclasses determines whether getobj will consider the * class at all, and without a touchstone or unidentified gray stone in inventory, it won't consider that class. 14:39 Right. 14:40 getobj() gives the player a list of objects that the verb is applicable to. 14:40 So changing this function should hopefully work. 14:40 You could just makes gems always appliable. 14:40 [hdf-us] [4k] Bones Mc'gee (Ssach) (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 5466 points, T:2545, killed by a large mimic 14:41 Eh. Trying to make minimal changes to vanilla. 14:42 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:42 ^^ a weird name that's not luxidream o-O 14:43 I'd expect Bones Mcgee to be a polyinit skeleton? 14:43 likely 14:43 YANI: allow skeletons to appear outside of Orcus-town, in graveyards and things. 14:44 they don't appear in the valley? 14:44 Nope. 14:44 With how common skeletons are as a fantasy monster, I'd expect to be able to have them randomly generated. 14:44 It's not like they're super threatening. 14:45 Okay, with that fix, I am not aware of any more problems with thiefstones I need to fix. 14:45 Should probably submit the whole diffed branch to Bilious... 14:49 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 14:52 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:53 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 14:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 14:54 -!- zxkuqyb has joined #hardfought 15:06 [hdf-us] [4k] Robert (Ssach) (Tou Scu Mal Neu), 3957 points, T:1044, killed by a gecko 15:09 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 15:14 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 15:14 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 15:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hothraxxa] by ChanServ 15:15 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 15:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 15:17 -!- [Demo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:18 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 15:22 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:27 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 15:27 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 15:28 the Valley entry messages are hardcoded in do.c 15:28 but I just tried sticking them in the des file and they work just fine 15:29 <[Demo]> maybe if u enter it a certain way... 15:29 <[Demo]> it might cause an issue 15:29 <[Demo]> i know ive heard about problems regarding messages and entering levels 15:30 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 15:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 15:33 AFAIK, there are only two ways to enter the Valley the first time 15:33 levelport in, or fall through in the Castle 15:33 both work 15:34 -!- [Demo]1 has joined #hardfought 15:35 -!- [Demo] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:35 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:35 -!- captain42 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:35 -!- earenndil has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:36 -!- FIQ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:38 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:40 -!- earenndil has joined #hardfought 15:44 -!- FIQ has joined #hardfought 15:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v FIQ] by ChanServ 15:45 -!- aosdict has quit [*.net *.split] 15:45 -!- Mandevil has quit [*.net *.split] 15:45 -!- Mandevil has joined #hardfought 15:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Mandevil] by ChanServ 15:45 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 15:51 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 15:59 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 16:18 @d?acererak 16:18 Acererak (L) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 32 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison petrification drain | Confers: fire cold | MR: 99 | Generates: unique | AC: -9 | Attacks: 4d4 weapon physical, 5d6 touch level drain, 0d0 cast spell, 2d6 gaze level drain | Alignment: 20 | Flags: breathless, regenerates, seeinvis, poisonous, undead, covetous 16:21 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:27 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:29 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 16:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6] by ChanServ 16:41 What does the S: status represent on Fourk? 16:43 speed 16:43 I think 16:46 oh, score 16:49 Score. 16:49 Same as in vanilla. 16:49 M: is movement rate. 16:49 I should make showscore an option and turn it off by default. 16:49 It's not like it's useful information. 16:54 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 17:00 ah! I never actually show that metric during play 17:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:20 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 17:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 17:24 [hdf-us] [nd] Rx (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 683 points, T:2682, killed by a giant bat 17:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:11234 17:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Thoth Amon, on T:11927 17:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 17:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:12892 17:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the Nightmare, on T:13228 17:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:13274 17:39 chaos quest spam incoming 17:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:13310 17:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:13368 17:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:13407 17:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Garland, on T:13469 17:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Chaos, on T:13477 17:42 and I forgot a pickaxe _again_ 17:42 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:43 I've been having issues connected to HF-US lately. 17:43 My ssh session stops responding. I've had a few other SSH sessions going in other tabs and they're solid. 17:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Axus, on T:14109 17:45 so... is it just me or what? 17:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Oona, on T:14643 17:53 bouquet: i haven't had any problem 17:54 what have you tried to diagnose the problem? 17:54 eg when the session freezes, does hdf respond to ping? 18:03 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:07 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:09 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 18:14 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 18:15 -!- Demo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:16 -!- [Demo]1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:27 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 18:28 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:36 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 18:36 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: sorry for my connection] 18:36 ya, it responds. 18:36 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 18:37 all I've done to diagnose is to have another ssh session open to verify my connection is OK 18:37 new topic: in fourk, if a corpse is poisonous to eat (golden naga) can it cause instadeath or just stat reduction? 18:38 I still need intrinsic poison resistance 18:38 I don't think poisonous corpses can cause instadeath even in vanilla 18:38 ais523: Message from aosdict at 2017-12-11 21:02 EST: unintended feature: thiefstones will steal an entire stack if they land on the right object. I'm inclined to leave this one in. 18:38 so I'd like to chow down on this naga 18:39 hooray! "You feel healthy"... finally 18:39 can't believe I've gone this long without poison resist 18:39 ais523: actually thiefstones are more or less finished as of now, minus extras like gold golems and re-initializing a cancelled stone 18:39 are you accidentally hitting ctrl-s by any chance? 18:40 hothraxxa: nope. 18:40 i got nothing then 18:40 aosdict: neat 18:40 how did you implement the migration coordinates? 18:42 ais523: added two xchars mgrx and mgry to struct obj 18:43 could not get around the issue of "any of these other fields might be needed, except owornmask but migration already uses it" 18:43 If I were completely refactoring migration, I'd do it differently, in such a way that lets ox and oy just be the coordinate values. 18:43 I'm fine with that 18:44 that's more sane than how daniel_t did migration, after all 18:44 ais523, that is correct poisonous corpses can cause some stat loss (strength 1-4) and maybe some damage (1-15), but otherwise no instadeath 18:44 in fact, poisonous corpses are one of my favourite ways to get poison resistance 18:45 (so long as you can handle / cure the negative effects) 18:45 yes, I do that too 18:45 giant spiders for example always leave corpses and give 33% chance of PR iirc 18:45 I just tend to be really careful about making statements that could potentially kill someone if I'd misremembered 18:45 especially because my memory is a jumble of 3.4.3 and 3.6.1 and AceHack/NH4 18:46 yeah, dangerous! 18:46 ais523: sketch of the migration refactor, if you're interested: make a struct for migrating objects/monsters, containing a d_level, a mask for the MIGR_* values, a struct obj*, a struct monst*, and a pointer to the next migrating object 18:46 it would be invalid to have the obj and monst both point to something 18:48 I want to do this, but since it wouldn't be used by anyone else, I don't really have a reason to :/ 18:48 I once watched a video of 3 south American kids going into the jungle, catching a bagfull of giant spiders (size of a dinner plate), then roasting them over an open fire 18:48 yum 18:48 aosdict: that is indeed much less insane than what daniel_t did 18:49 [hdf-us] [fh] Naeroon (naeroon) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 30354 points, T:2428, killed by a killer bee 18:50 Grasshopper: YANI: if food cooking ever is a thing, it should remove poison from (some? all?) types of poisonous corpses. 18:51 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:51 locals here (rural NE Thailand) like to catch the local giant scorpions (I've seen them around 20-30cm long) and roast them 18:52 aosdict, what is that Japanese puffer fish that is deadly poisonous if prepared in the wrong way? 18:52 aosdict: there is a struct entity in dbridge.c 18:52 -!- Webmant7 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:53 maybe you could extend it and use it more generally? 18:54 grasshopper: I think that's puffer fish in general. Our mexico feral dogs often die eating them when they wash up on the beach. 18:54 !tell K2 pushed a minor change 18:54 Will do, FIQ! 18:54 made elemental attacks not affected by MC 18:55 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 18:56 grasshopper: that's fugu 18:57 which is letahl if the liver is not removed correctly (iirc) 18:57 hothraxxa, your fugu fu is strong 18:57 some organ anyway 18:57 soeaking of fish livers, there is a fish in Thailand (this part, Isaan) that locals tend to get liver cancer from 18:58 oh wait i know this one too 18:58 because they prepare the fish without proper cooking and they sometimes have liver fluke 18:58 also, don't eat a polar bear. Apparently you can get vitamin A poisoning. 18:58 as if you'd eat a whole polar bear. 18:58 ummm is it barracuda? 18:58 yeah, no polar bears in thailand anyway so that is a good bet 18:58 lucky 18:59 yeah, phew 18:59 :D 18:59 hothraxxa, honestly can't recall (but prob not barra) 18:59 no i remember now. barracuda give ciguatera 19:00 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 19:00 i had a brief acquaintance with a lady who was one of the world experts on poisonous things 19:01 she wrote a book about zombies, to make this relevant 19:01 oh, thank RNG for that I was getting worried 19:02 trying to recall her name 19:05 -!- Demo has joined #hardfought 19:05 server went down hard :( 19:06 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 19:07 <[Demo]> sure hope this works 19:31 ais523: while you're here, any good rumor ideas for thiefstones? 19:31 we're talking true rumors as opposed to oracularities, right? 19:31 came up with 4 true and 2 false, but more would be good :D 19:31 yes, single line rumors 19:31 "If a gray stone steals from you, steal back from it." 19:32 although that could probably be phrased better 19:32 <[Demo]> i like that its dumb and therefore great 19:46 hi 19:46 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 19:46 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-12 14:31 EST: Pushed a fix to a nethack4 bug in FIQHack 19:46 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-12 18:54 EST: pushed a minor change 19:47 <[Demo]> hi k2, how many users at a time is the eu usually seeing? 19:47 less than US 19:47 for now 19:48 but it's far from dead 19:48 during the tribute tournament it saw a fair amount of use 19:48 <[Demo]> no relative estimate? 19:48 always see some play 19:48 5000+ games in a month 19:48 but no Demo, I cant give you a real estimate right now. it just converted over to mirror hdf main a few days ago 19:49 <[Demo]> just trying to get an idea of how many ssh sessions and decently consuming user processes a t2.micro can maintain without starting to have issues 😛 19:49 i estimate about 18-20 concurrent users if they play nh3 only 19:50 best stress teset 19:50 if its all nh4 based, cut that number in half 19:50 is to play nethack4 19:50 it takes forever to load larger saves 19:50 and considering that 100 turns of dynahack caused issues in replaymode... 19:50 (and it is much faster than 4.3!) 19:57 [hdf-us] [nd] Rx (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 625 points, T:2703, killed by a giant bat 19:57 [Demo] just remember, a t2.micro is just one cpu, so it would take is one runaway process to bring the instance to a crawl 19:58 *so all it would take 19:58 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 19:59 oh FIQ 19:59 i get a couple warnings during compile, which is weird as i dont recall ever really seeing warnings while compiling fiqhack 19:59 now at 146 19:59 nethack/src/status.c: In function ‘draw_classic_status’: 19:59 nethack/src/status.c:218:18: warning: format ‘%d’ expects argument of type ‘int’, but argument 3 has type ‘char *’ [-Wformat=] 19:59 sprintf(buf, " St:%-1d Dx:%-1d Co:%-1d In:%-1d Wi:%-1d Ch:%-1d", 19:59 ^ 19:59 nethack/src/status.c:218:18: warning: too many arguments for format [-Wformat-extra-args] 20:01 thanks 20:03 !tell K2 try now 20:03 Will do, FIQ! 20:03 lol 20:03 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-12-12 20:03 EST: try now 20:03 i'm here 20:04 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 20:18 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 20:28 jonadab/FIQ: either of you have a copy of the Bug Hall Of Fame? It strikes me that nethackwiki is the best place to put it 20:35 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:48 I don't have it 20:50 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 20:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 greased helping hand", on T:17985 20:55 <[Demo]> still funny 20:55 what does that wish create? is "helping hand" a dnh item? 20:55 or is it a parser abuse? 20:56 it's an arti 20:56 <[Demo]> its an artifact and a masturbation joke 20:56 grappling hook I think? 20:57 what does it do? an artifact grappling hook would probably need some pretty good extrinsics to be worth a wish 20:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:18011 20:58 <[Demo]> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/DNetHack_Artifacts#Helping_Hand 20:58 ais523 it's an arti grappling hook 20:58 curse resis while carried 20:59 also gives seraching when carried but that's not important 20:59 I have a decent asc kit right now though, so I don't need much 20:59 oh, "curse resist while carried" 20:59 ^ 20:59 also engraves as athame for wards 20:59 that's the sort of extrinsic that some players will really value but isn't actually all that necessary, at least in vanilla 21:00 it seems kind of like the equivalent of magicbane 21:00 ais523: this is dnethack 21:01 casters in dnethack have smite targeting in it 21:01 so curse resistance is more useful 21:01 FIQ: I know it's dnethack, that's why I clarified that my extrinsic usefulness scale was based on vanilla 21:01 helping hand is usually my first wish in dnh 21:01 hmm, that seems like a balance issue to me 21:01 <[Demo]> cant compete with the huggy shirt 21:01 if that thing is good enough to be a first wish 21:01 curse resistance is amazing in dnethack 21:01 ais523: it's not 21:01 normally my 3rd wish 21:01 it's not that crazy 21:02 <[Demo]> i never wish it 21:02 <[Demo]> its not that good 21:02 just I don't want to deal with curses 21:02 but I've got +6 cleaver, +6 tie-dye shirt of opness already 21:02 and dnh has much more of it 21:02 ^ 21:02 I think "curse resistance while carried" would be a good artifact design in a vanilla-ish variant, though 21:02 I don't need the gauntlets of OPness, because I have 25 dex/str innately 21:02 that reminds me 21:02 plus some extra stats that don't really matter 21:02 ais523: curse resis is bugged in vanilla 21:02 makes magicbane sort-of lose its usefulness 21:02 doesn't apply to fountains 21:02 maybe it could be a heart of ahriman buff? 21:02 not really a bug 21:02 just inconsistent 21:02 true 21:03 ais523: nice one 21:03 ais523: I already have blessed invoke to remove curse from the heart 21:03 I will keep it in mind 21:03 I just _hate_ cursing things 21:03 the magic marker is to geno L >_> 21:03 oh well, afk sleep 21:03 invoked levitation, luck, curse resist, and bonus damage if used as a sling bullet is starting to look like a pretty neat artifact 21:03 in dnh it's better :p 21:03 drain resis, reflection, MR, fire & pois resis when carried 21:03 #invoke to remove curses 21:03 base type ruby now, so no luck anymore 21:04 no more MR? 21:04 used to be MR, reflection and drain res 21:04 oh, is it changed? 21:04 oh well, bye 21:04 doesn't matter 21:04 I have intrinsic MR 21:04 see ya fiq 21:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 shield of the resolute heart", on T:18020 21:04 YES 21:04 +5 21:07 and no limited moon for me, whatever 21:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed magic marker", on T:18036 21:08 and the last wish still gave me no moon ok 21:08 ais523: I think Fourk already gives the Heart curse resistance? 21:08 I don't think anythign gives it curse resis 21:08 just the invoke to remove curse 21:08 Oh, that's right. 21:15 oh cool I have a +7 lightsaber too 21:15 yay for bones files: OP character death plus OP character = OP 21:24 -!- Kontroll1r has joined #hardfought 21:27 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 21:28 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 802594 points, T:19420, petrified by tasting cockatrice meat 21:45 that is why you don't keep wands in the same letter as your c corpse 21:46 meant to do EH, I did eH 21:46 *Eh, I did Eh 21:46 (I think) 21:46 somebody better be super damn happy about that bones files 21:46 <[Demo]> whered u die? 21:46 level above medusa's 21:46 in a gen store 21:46 !lastgame 21:46 rikersan: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rikersan/dnethack/dumplog/1513095948.dnh.txt 21:47 ok, it was W and w not h but yea 21:48 rikersan: did the cockatrice meat at least taste good? 21:54 not really 21:55 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed fixed scrolls of charging", on T:1894 21:59 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 dragonhide gauntlets of dexterity and power", on T:1906 22:00 what's dragonhide mean? 22:00 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 dragonhide water walking boots of speed", on T:1908 22:00 it's grunthack 22:00 burn resis? 22:01 dragonhide is an object material 22:01 that grants 9 (?) base AC 22:01 found an early WoW 22:01 0:3 22:01 <[Demo]> wow 22:01 your ascension kit should be basically all +0 dragonhide gear, with properties 22:02 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 helm of telepathy and drain resistance", on T:1913 22:03 aosdict: no 22:03 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action and reflection", on T:1918 22:04 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:04 been awhile since i've played chaotic - whats a good item to wish for that grants MR? I cant wear a cloak of MR nor GDSM 22:07 hmm... cha ogre? 22:07 can you even get MR? 22:09 i dont know 22:09 not looking like it 22:10 converrrt. join the light side. 22:10 and then get Merlin to lend you his Mirror. 22:10 i'd need to finish my quest first 22:10 i was thinking along those lines 22:11 oh yeah, you're at like T:2000 22:11 so excalibur already exists in this game (bones) 22:11 well, come on, ascend in like the next 10 turns! haven't you heard about the TAS? :P 22:11 get quest artifact 22:12 prob sac for cleaver 22:12 hmm 22:12 no dont sac 22:12 i want to wish for the MKoT 22:12 you could wish for the Mirror now, assuming you can survive the blast, and then just not use it 22:12 until you can become lawful 22:12 true 22:12 good call 22:13 i have 2 wishes left 22:13 well, speaking of wishes... 22:13 just got a throne wish 22:13 \o/ 22:13 but you wouldn't be able to use MMoM and MKoT at the same time 22:13 that too... hrm 22:13 so lets say i have the MKoT 22:13 and am holding it 22:14 and i convert my alignment to lawful 22:14 does that make me drop the chaotic artifact? 22:15 but regardless, i will have to convert and use the mirror 22:15 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:16 i dont see anyway you can beat grunthack without MR 22:16 too many monsters have access to player level spells 22:17 If you want a better artifact, you could always permaconvert to neutral after the quest, and wish up a neutral MRtifact accordingly. 22:17 Though I'd make sure I knew there was a neutral altar somewhere. 22:17 yeah grunthack without MR seems unwinnable 22:18 even if you polyselfed to undead or hallucinated to fend off touches of death, there are still so many ways they could get you 22:18 all this talk of MR, I think I might wish for a cloak of MR. 22:18 from the wiki - It is technically possible to carry multiple artifacts of different alignments through careful use of alignment conversion or the helm of opposite alignment, but this is considered an advanced tactic and is rarely employed. 22:18 K2: alternately, polyself + CoMR/GDSM could work, if you're willing to take the associated risks. 22:19 But that probably requires more wishes than you have right now. 22:20 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 22:20 convert myself to neutral and go for the EotA or the EotO 22:21 err 22:21 not the EotA, not planning on spellcasting 22:21 leave room ofr "oLS 22:21 for 22:22 the PYEC 22:22 seems better choice 22:22 even if its just uncursed charging vs blessed 22:22 hmm 22:23 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 22:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 22:23 K2: Magicbane is probably the only way, without alignment or polyself shenanigans. 22:24 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 22:24 yeah 22:24 that i can wish for and use 22:24 just get blasted but oh well 22:25 lets look at skills for a barbarian real quick... 22:25 basic with dagger 22:25 skilled with longsword (excalibur is in game already) 22:25 two-weapon is basic 22:26 hmm.. so can you dual-wield artifacts in gh? I can't remember. 22:26 i'll just enchant both to +7 and call it a day 22:26 Tangles yup you can 22:26 Tangles: I forgot the most obvious answer :P 22:27 so that means my next 2 wishes will be for magicbane and the MKoT 22:27 you may not get both... choose wisely 22:27 later on i may trade out excalibur for a silver thirsty katana 22:27 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:27 going for MB first i need the MR 22:28 these will be artifacts #2 and 3 22:28 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 magicbane", on T:1919 22:29 ais523: did the dieroll bug (vorpal exploit) ever get fixed? 22:29 in vanilla, that is 22:29 <[Demo]> oh yeah that fun bug 22:29 not that I'm aware of 22:30 I like it too much to really want to be responsible for fixing it :-( 22:30 <[Demo]> heh 22:30 it might have been fixed by someone outside the devteam? IIRC it was found while a third-party patch was being made 22:30 it was found by barthouse, though I have no idea who that is 22:31 was helping paxed with something windows-specific 22:31 <[Demo]> must have been an epic find 22:31 damn i didnt get the key 22:31 ah well, cant complain 22:34 ais523: seems like the commit was made by barthouse himself 22:34 78756c9bd6ab760317b26f2d15f3e7a578149a12 22:35 makes sense 22:38 hah, the way I'm going to implement this gold golem thing, it should also work with a wielded thiefstone 22:55 with teleport control and a cursed scroll of teleport can I choose to port to Minetown from the main dungeon? 22:56 hmm dont think so 22:56 that's called branchporting 22:56 need the EotA to do that 23:03 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 23:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hothraxxa] by ChanServ 23:04 would a balrog make a good pet? I found a figurine of one. I'm inclined to add it to my unihorn polypile. 23:05 they seem slow when I'm fighting them 23:05 speed them up with a wand of speed 23:05 they're decent - hit hard can take a beating can use weapons and they can summon in more help 23:08 how far through the game are you? setting off a figurine has a chance of backfiring 23:08 it shouldn't be too bad around Medusa depth (hopefully?) but towards the start of the game it can be a nightmare 23:16 YASI: gold golem shopkeepers. 23:18 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:19 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 23:19 !ping 23:19 Grasshopper: Pong! 23:20 balrogs make great pets (with aosdict's warnings) 23:20 I've ascended with my starting pet at least once, as a ranger, with my pet Balrog Sirius (a polydog) 23:20 what warnings 23:21 about game depth and chances of hostile blarog 23:21 balrog 23:21 ais, not aos 23:21 ais523 warnings aosdict sorry I should look closer 23:22 ? 23:22 oh, I see 23:22 I thought you were talking about compiler warnings 23:22 balrogs are both poison and fire resistant, which makes them great for surviving plane of fire 23:22 or the warning trinsic 23:22 took me three tries to parse that correctly 23:23 ais523, yeah well I can't even read your handle right lol 23:23 I need better glasses 23:24 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 23:26 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Bar Ogr Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:5633 23:27 OK, I'll hold onto it a bit longer. Getting close to medusa, but don't really need a pet right now. 23:28 Last ascension I did the reverse geno purple worms and tame. Had 4 of them slurping up everything in Astral! 23:28 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:29 loves me some purple rain 23:32 if you polymorph a pet, how long does the polymorph last? 23:34 for eva 23:34 <[Demo]> in a slashem based variant? 23:53 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought