00:00 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 00:13 winny: I think ThatsMyJam doesn't want tips 00:13 oops 00:13 :( 00:14 should i leave it? 00:14 I'd revert it 00:14 done 00:16 aosdict: btw are there any policies against narco-posting? 00:16 what do you mean by that 00:16 responding on the forum to an old post 00:16 not aware of any, it's not like we have to bump threads every 6 months to keep them from being locked 00:16 true. 00:17 I think overall it'd just probably never be seen by people checking the recent changes list or listening in #nethackwiki 00:18 er, people not doing that. 00:21 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 00:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 00:22 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 00:23 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 447 points, 1535 turns, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping on altorg 00:23 aosdict, you mean "necroposting"? 00:23 errr winny ^^ 00:24 oh thanks 00:24 haha 00:24 :) 00:24 :D 00:24 I like it, it's a cool word 00:24 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:24 http://women-and-dreams.blogspot.com/2017/11/apple-power-macintosh-g5-flame-on.html 00:24 er 00:24 wrong url, but funny post regardless! 00:24 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Forum:A_Nethack-dedicated_console%3F 00:24 evokes evil spellcasters in dark robes with stormy backdrops 00:25 i'm seriously tempted to get a nokia n810 00:25 just for nethack 00:25 the battery life might be suspect, however 00:27 [fh] o~~~~wo what's this? (Luxidream) (Pri Orc Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed potions of object detection", on T:25358 00:33 [fh] o~~~~wo what's this? (Luxidream) (Pri Orc Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:25689 00:36 ASCENDED: bebing (Ran-Hum-Fem-Neu), 3696388 points, 64735 turns, ascended on hardfought 00:36 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bebing/dn36/dumplog/1511501040.dn36.txt 00:37 TROPHY: bebing now holds the Highest Scored Ranger 00:37 TROPHY: bebing just earned the Double Top 00:44 [fh] o~~~~wo what's this? (Luxidream) (Pri Orc Mal Cha) wished for "2 cursed potions of gain level", on T:26424 00:44 DIED: jackofclubs (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 22277 points, 9301 turns, killed by a priest of Crom on hardfought 00:45 TROPHY: jackofclubs just earned the Lead Star 00:53 [fh] o~~~~wo what's this? (Luxidream) (Pri Orc Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:27369 00:56 [fh] o~~~~wo what's this? (Luxidream) (Pri Orc Mal Cha) reached the Astral Plane, on T:27540 00:57 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 00:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 01:03 [fh] o~~~~wo what's this? (Luxidream) (Pri Orc Mal Cha), 259260 points, T:27608, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-11-28%2006%3A03%3A11%2C%20o%7E%7E%7E%7Ewo%20what%27s%20this%3F-Pri-Orc-Mal-Cha%2C%20ascended.txt 01:11 -!- elenmirie\splat has quit [Read error: No route to host] 01:35 DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 842 points, 1844 turns, killed by a giant bat on hardfought 01:42 DIED: ab5ni (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 5684 points, 5304 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hardfought 01:43 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 972956 points, 52310 turns, killed by Death (with the Amulet) on hdf-eu 01:43 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:44 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 4517 points, 8052 turns, killed by a leocrotta on altorg 01:58 !tell NeroOneTrueKing I've encountered a serious problem with the increased dungeon length thing in slex; dnethack might also have that problem (didn't read all the backscroll, maybe you fixed it already). Special levels don't generate stairs when xchar is redefined as int (=segfault). When I redefined schar as int as well (config.h), the problem disappeared. 01:58 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 01:59 !tell NeroOneTrueKing Specifically, special levels with random stair placement will fail to place them when xchar is int and schar is still signed char. My guess is that the coordinates are transferred between xchar and schar somewhere and therefore it doesn't work if those aren't the same. 01:59 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 02:01 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:01 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:07 DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 1887 points, 2550 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion on hardfought 02:08 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 02:10 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 02:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 02:13 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 02:21 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 02:21 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:23 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 406 points, 1981 turns, killed by a large mimic on altorg 02:26 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 02:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 02:44 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 529 points, 1407 turns, killed by a goblin on hdf-eu 02:46 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 354 points, 598 turns, killed by a fox on hdf-eu 02:53 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1612 points, 2932 turns, killed by a rabid rat on altorg 02:55 huh 02:55 in my game smoky potions are mapped to object detection 02:55 revgenoing nymphs not a bad strategy y/y 03:10 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 508 points, 2287 turns, killed by a kobold lord, while fainted from lack of food on altorg 03:15 DIED: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 866 points, 2113 turns, poisoned by a rabid rat on hardfought 03:18 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 771 points, 1125 turns, killed by a rabid rat on hdf-eu 03:24 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 732 points, 1525 turns, killed by a manes on hdf-eu 03:26 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 307 points, 481 turns, killed by a fox on hdf-eu 03:30 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:39 DIED: chuggy (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 205 points, 176 turns, killed by an invisible gnome on hdf-eu 03:43 DIED: chuggy (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 972 points, 824 turns, killed by a giant ant on hdf-eu 03:50 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 03:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 03:57 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1066 points, 1395 turns, killed by a cave spider on hdf-eu 04:01 DIED: chuggy (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 6102 points, 2750 turns, killed by a rothe, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 04:02 DIED: chuggy (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 260 points, 313 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 04:06 DIED: chuggy (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 453 points, 537 turns, killed by a gnome on hdf-eu 04:07 DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 2926 points, 8933 turns, killed by a human mummy on hardfought 04:18 ASCENDED: kupopo (Val-Dwa-Fem-Cha), 1458138 points, 67601 turns, ascended on hardfought 04:18 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/kupopo/dn36/dumplog/1510994644.dn36.txt 04:18 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:19 TROPHY: kupopo just earned the Dilithium Star 04:20 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 04:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 04:21 -!- elenmirie is now known as elenmirie\splat 04:28 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:32 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 3557 points, 9085 turns, zapped herself with a wand on hdf-eu 04:34 [dyn] kupopo (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4 points, T:42, killed by a sewer rat 04:37 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 235 points, 491 turns, killed by a bolt of fire on hdf-eu 04:39 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1154 points, 3255 turns, killed by an imp on altorg 04:46 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 274 points, 276 turns, killed by a fox on hdf-eu 04:50 DIED: chuggy (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 34855 points, 5307 turns, killed by an invisible master lich on hdf-eu 04:50 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 532 points, 1199 turns, killed by a kobold lord on hdf-eu 05:01 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 05:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 05:04 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:28 -!- Mekkis has joined #hardfought 05:38 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 227 points, 388 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu 05:48 DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 8 turns, killed by a goblin on hardfought 05:50 ASCENDED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1018579 points, 19172 turns, ascended on hdf-au 05:50 https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/dn36/dumplog/1511668434.dn36.txt 05:51 TROPHY: Tangles just earned the Hat Trick 06:24 I'm having an issue registering: its saying that my email address is invalid. 06:25 specifically, " The email address you entered is not allowed to be used." 06:25 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:31 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 06:48 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 06:48 -!- aoei is now known as aoei\splat 06:53 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 3204 points, 6604 turns, killed by a gold golem on hdf-eu 06:53 DIED: Tangles (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 3432 points, 2462 turns, killed by a bolt of cold on hdf-au 06:55 Tangles: gz! 06:55 (for the ascension, not the wand of cold) 07:05 DIED: Tangles (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 644 points, 765 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning on hdf-au 07:12 DIED: Tangles (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 311 points, 223 turns, killed by an electric shock on hdf-au 07:23 DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 4999 points, 6645 turns, killed by a bolt of fire on hardfought 07:39 -!- aoei\splat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:46 I wonder if Tangles is trying to get killed by all the different bolts 07:47 do a crossbow bolt next! 08:05 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 08:05 -!- aoei is now known as aoei\spla 08:06 -!- aoei\spla is now known as aoei\splat 08:08 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 08:26 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:48 DIED: Rex (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1263448 points, 81542 turns, choked on a quick snack on hdf-eu 08:49 TROPHY: Rex just earned the Copper Star 09:04 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 7501 points, 13073 turns, killed by a fire ant on hdf-eu 09:05 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:06 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 09:09 -!- ais523 has quit [Client Quit] 09:10 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 09:11 FIQ: hey, was wondering how did you stumble across User:Winny/ZAPM ? I didn't see it when searching the wiki (defaults to only the Main: namespace), good catch, hadn't seen that very handy item page before 09:13 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:15 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 09:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 09:16 I searched for ZAPM using the "Everything" search... got your user page, but I thought elenmirie\splat had one as well and I don't see it 09:23 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:31 DIED: firemonkey (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 2320 points, 2973 turns, killed by a black unicorn on hardfought 09:47 good to know aosdict :) 09:47 I'm starting to think maybe i should have added everything to ZAPM directly 09:48 start an entirely new wiki, a ZAPM wiki! 09:48 haha, true! 09:54 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 09:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 09:55 DIED: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 922 points, 2567 turns, killed by a rothe on hdf-eu 10:03 DIED: firemonkey (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 1950 points, 1593 turns, killed by a rabid rat on hardfought 10:07 YANI: remove as many threshold cutoffs from skill effects as possible. Migrate them to effects that scale directly with the amount of practice you have. If you've maxed a skill and haven't enhanced yet, practicing does nothing until you enhance and unlock the ability to train up to the next threshold. 10:08 aosdict: ugh 10:08 DCSS made a very similar change and I really didn't like it 10:11 why? 10:12 partly because it got rid of the milestone effect of hitting particular ranks with particular skills 10:12 partly because it made the inputs you needed for strategy much less clear from a memorability point of view 10:12 "there's no reason to train this skill above 12.85" or whatever isn't very intuitive 10:13 -!- aoei\splat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:14 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 10:14 DIED: firemonkey (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 621 points, 1171 turns, killed by a green mold on hardfought 10:17 * aosdict starts a game in wizard mode to test something, finds a blessed magic lamp next to the upstairs on DL1 10:20 YASI: Frost Band, an artifact ring of fire resistance. 10:21 And Fire Band too, of course. 10:22 winny: I watch last edited 10:22 er 10:22 recent changes 10:22 I mean 10:23 ais523: well 10:23 the DCSS skill system in general is IMO one of DCSS' worst features 10:23 at least they got rid of victory dancing 10:24 I find the skill system *very* unintuitive and you *need* to learn how to master it and how to minmax it 10:24 or you will have a bad time for anything but the easiest of roles 10:24 I actually liked the original system, not so much the new ones, although it should have been more lenient to allow for the difficulty of controlling it 10:25 I think you shouldn't have been able to turn skills off, either 10:25 a better victory dancing fix would have been to make all skill training cost resources 10:25 (enemies to attack, items used up, etc.) 10:25 ais523: I never played dcss back when it had victory dancing, but from what I Have understood by reading how it worked afterwards, it sounds absolutely awful 10:25 because it led to very tedious behaviour of having to play exactly in certain ways 10:25 people were exaggerating how much of a problem it was, but the fact that you could dance risk-free was something of an issue 10:26 because it became optimal and really boring 10:26 right, that is what I am saying 10:26 and from what I understood, this isn't like nethack pudding farming 10:26 because of dcss being a far lower headroom 10:26 yes 10:27 meaning you're pretty much forced to engage in the tedium 10:35 DIED: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 1508 points, 1787 turns, killed by a giant bat on hdf-eu 10:44 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1251 points, 3602 turns, killed by an imp, while praying on hdf-eu 10:46 incidentally, DCSS's headroom is much higher than the devs want it to be 10:48 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 376 points, 867 turns, killed by a bear trap on hdf-eu 10:49 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 117 points, 160 turns, killed by a bear trap on hdf-eu 10:53 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 543 points, 963 turns, killed by a goblin, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu 10:55 ais523: I personally always preferred higher headroom with optional challenge runs 10:55 i.e. the NetHack approach 10:55 that way you can accomodate any skill level 10:55 or play 10:57 yes, although one big problem it does 10:57 is people who are new to the game playing in a very low-headroom style 10:57 ais523: How is this a problem over the game just being low-headroom in general? 10:58 because high-headroom games normally have more scope to get a very small advantage via tedious/insane/stupid play 10:58 because there's less of an incentive to get rid of that sort of thing 10:58 think of it this way: pudding farming wasn't a huge problem in NH3.4.3, because it wasn't necessary and there wasn't much reason to do it 10:58 but it'd be a huge issue in Brogue 11:01 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:01 -!- bug_sniper_ has joined #hardfought 11:01 -!- Tarmunora_ has joined #hardfought 11:02 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1672 points, 2809 turns, killed by a large mimic on hdf-eu 11:02 ais523: That's because Brogue is so much harder. 11:02 Anything that helped you survive would be mandatory. 11:03 my favorite thing about brogue is the number of tough calls it has 11:03 what to enchant, whether to start jumping down pits to save time / not spawn more liches. quaff this now or later 11:04 jonadab: right, that's the point I'm making 11:04 also, I'm not sure if I'd call Brogue /harder/ 11:04 rather, I'd say it has /less room for error/ 11:04 especially strategically 11:04 a strategic mistake in Brogue can be very hard to recover 11:04 nethack and DCSS are kinda autoplay: of course you wear the speed boots. of course you equip grayswandir. 11:05 the early game has some tough calls though. before you do the big blessed ID 11:05 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:05 ais523: A one-turn tactical mistake in Brogue can be very hard to recover. 11:06 Like, wasting a turn at the wrong time, for instance, can result in inevitable death twenty turns later. 11:06 Or two hundred turns later, even. 11:06 I find that happens less often; do you have examples? 11:07 Typically, it involves failing to move away from a strong monster fast enough, so then it's adjacent to you and will inevitably kill you at some point, because you have no way to get away. 11:07 Early ogres for instance. 11:08 oh, I see 11:08 Brogue has quite a few usable escape items 11:08 also, ogres can miss, so it's never an inevitable death, just a likely one 11:09 right. you can walk away from the ogre until your hp recovers. then let it swing at you. now it's got a delay turn, so keep walking away. then jump down a chasm. 11:09 of course you can get stuck on this long kiting maneuver but it usually works in a pinch 11:13 shpingrlde: You can walk away from the ogre, but your HP will not recover before another monster generates behind you somewhere. 11:14 And yes, I know I oversimplified and sometimes you can find ways to get out of it. 11:15 shpingrlde: I'm not convinced you're going to survive an ogre hit + a chasm fall at minimum ogre depth, at least if you had any prior damage 11:15 but yes, that's another possibility if you have the HP 11:15 I'd be looking at staves or wands, I think, in that situation 11:15 well, I guess you don't even need to let it swing, if you're gonna chasm. but getting the one space gap is nice for other escape methods 11:33 DIED: firemonkey (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 1020 points, 2492 turns, killed by a bolt of cold on hardfought 11:40 -!- lonjil has joined #hardfought 11:55 FIQ: thx, was wondering :) 11:55 DIED: firemonkey (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1627 points, 2071 turns, killed by a werejackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 11:59 -!- StinkyGreene has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:02 -!- loli has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 12:05 DIED: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 2560 points, 2812 turns, killed by a quivering blob on hdf-eu 12:11 aosdict: the (incomplete) page that I made on ZAPM is here: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/ZAPM_Item_Prices 12:12 oh I thought it was in your userspace 12:13 that was winny 12:24 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:35 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 12:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 12:44 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! firemonkey completed the Grue challenge. 12:45 CHALLENGE IGNORED! flump ignored the Joust challenge. 12:48 DIED: jackofclubs (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 3320 points, 3195 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hardfought 12:51 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4730 points, 4496 turns, killed by a leocrotta on hdf-eu 13:01 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:04 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! firemonkey accepted the Waldo challenge. 13:22 yani - you can wear a bag on your head for blindness. but only for one turn if it's not a BoH 13:24 What would the flavor be for the one-turn limit? 13:24 shpingrlde: been suggested before by Grasshopper 13:24 with complementary EPI: if you try to do this with a bag of tricks, it bites your head off and you die. 13:25 How about, you can wear a bag over your head for blindness, but only if you're not wearing lenses _or_ a helm, because it uses both slots? 13:25 also suggested by Grasshopper: it sets Cha to 6. 13:25 Heh. 13:25 And if it's cursed, of course, you can't remove it. 13:25 Also: only if the bag is empty, obviously. 13:26 If you try to do it with a non-empty bag, you get the same effect as #tipping it. 13:26 the flavor is that you don't want to suffocate 13:26 Ah, that makes sense for oilskin, I guess. 13:26 Not really for the others. 13:26 yeah, what are bags made of? 13:26 canvas bags on head are fine. leather, not so much 13:26 Though wearing a BoH over your head, if we wanted to be evil, could just be fatal. 13:27 all bags are made of cloth, canonically. 13:27 well there's a whole dimensionworth of air in there 13:27 oilskin sack should perhaps be made leather 13:27 and if it's porous to water, it probably should be to air as well 13:27 shpingrlde: They're made of cloth. 13:27 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 13:38 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 13:41 DIED: firemonkey (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 8296 points, 4029 turns, killed by a wand on hardfought 13:45 DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 124 points, 342 turns, killed by a goblin on hardfought 13:45 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 13:48 ASCENDED: elenmirie (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 18507910 points, 159837 turns, ascended on hdf-eu 13:48 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elenmirie/dn36/dumplog/1510921964.dn36.txt 13:48 [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 4408 points, T:4428, killed by a dwarf lord, while fainted from lack of food 13:49 TROPHY: elenmirie now holds the Basic Extinct and "Who Wants to be a Killionaire?" 14:05 DIED: Mischling (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 3749 points, 3398 turns, killed by an orcish arrow on hdf-eu 14:07 jonadab: D&D has rules for how much air exists in a BoH 14:08 because people tried that sort of thing so often 14:08 Heh. 14:09 DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 1009 points, 2087 turns, killed by a giant bat, while praying on hardfought 14:11 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 14:11 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 14:16 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:23 DIED: Rex (Mon-Hum-Fem-Neu), 9090 points, 5161 turns, killed by an invisible stalker on hdf-eu 14:36 DIED: Rex (Mon-Hum-Fem-Neu), 771 points, 870 turns, killed by a gnome on hdf-eu 14:38 hiding in them? 14:42 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! bleeko accepted the Waldo challenge. 14:45 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! firemonkey accepted the Joust challenge. 14:49 [4k] Arkanoid (arkanoid) (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Sokoban zoo, on T:6125 14:56 ZAPM: Tariru the Maintenance Man Activated the Bizarro Orgasmatron in the Mainframe at depth 16. [39994 points] 14:57 congrats tariru 14:57 DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 1072 points, 1822 turns, killed by a rabid rat on hardfought 14:58 QUIT: ab5ni (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 2939 points, 5109 turns, quit on hardfought 15:02 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 4825 points, 5335 turns, killed by a fall onto poison spikes on hdf-eu 15:04 DIED: squolly (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 167054 points, 28335 turns, drowned in a moat by a giant eel on hdf-eu 15:04 DIED: Rex (Mon-Hum-Fem-Neu), 2801 points, 1760 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 15:08 [slex] kenanbit (Ele Tro Mal Law) killed Wang the Raalgon, on T:35162 15:13 -!- dave____ has joined #hardfought 15:17 [slex] kenanbit (Ele Tro Mal Law) averted death, on T:35237 15:18 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 15:23 !race dnh 15:23 rikersan: elf 15:23 !race dnh 15:23 rikersan: clockwork automaton 15:30 DIED: Rex (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 2708 points, 2530 turns, killed by a lynx on hdf-eu 15:37 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 15:38 [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 120 points, T:481, killed by a blast of fire 15:39 [sp] mightyquinn (Ran Hum Fem Cha), 222 points, T:175, killed by a gnome lord 15:43 ASCENDED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2908099 points, 52125 turns, ascended on hardfought 15:43 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eitbo/dn36/dumplog/1511050070.dn36.txt 15:45 TROPHY: eitbo just earned the Dilithium Star 15:47 has the eit family chatted with anyone else in the tourney? irc, newsgroup, bbs, mailing list? 15:47 null modem cable? 15:56 ASCENDED: Webmant (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 6049494 points, 86288 turns, ascended on hardfought 15:56 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/W/Webmant/dn36/dumplog/1511717615.dn36.txt 15:57 TROPHY: Webmant now holds the Highest Scored Barbarian 15:58 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1258 points, 1868 turns, killed by a hill orc on hdf-eu 15:59 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:07 !time 16:07 Grassy: Tue Nov 28 16:07:21 2017 EST 16:09 DIED: elenmirie (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 4664 points, 4266 turns, killed by an ape on hdf-eu 16:10 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 16:10 DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 2099 points, 5681 turns, killed by a killer bee on hardfought 16:10 ASCENDED: larry (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1863964 points, 45884 turns, ascended on hardfought 16:10 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/l/larry/dn36/dumplog/1511196679.dn36.txt 16:11 TROPHY: larry just earned the Birdie 16:17 DIED: Rex (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 2934 points, 2817 turns, killed by a hill orc on hdf-eu 16:19 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 16:20 !who 16:20 shpingrlde: mightyquinn [sp] Jendic [dn36] firemonkey [dn36] hothraxxa [dn36] Delraven [dn36] ab5ni [dn36] flump [dn36] Luxidream [dn36] arkanoid [4k] 16:24 DIED: elenmirie (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 640 points, 663 turns, killed by a hobbit on hdf-eu 16:33 DIED: eitbo (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 392 points, 579 turns, killed by an invisible gnome on hardfought 16:37 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:39 -!- Grassy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:39 DIED: eitbo (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1001 points, 736 turns, killed by a hobbit on hardfought 16:40 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:02 [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 9578 points, T:8479, killed by a giant ant 17:03 DIED: Rex (Mon-Hum-Fem-Neu), 142 points, 261 turns, killed by a magic missile on hdf-eu 17:06 DIED: Rex (Rog-Hum-Mal-Cha), 73 points, 295 turns, killed by a goblin on hdf-eu 17:09 ZAPM: inari the Weirdo Killed by a man eating plant in the space base at depth 4. [4595 points] 17:11 [nh] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 233 points, T:855, killed by a small mimic, while disrobing 17:14 -!- dave____ has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:24 DIED: Rex (Rog-Orc-Fem-Cha), 745 points, 1567 turns, killed by a gnome lord, while praying on hdf-eu 17:26 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 17:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 17:38 DIED: bleeko (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 994 points, 1014 turns, killed by a rothe on hardfought 17:42 ZAPM: inari the Summer Intern Killed by a vat slime in the space base at depth 2. [1942 points] 17:42 should i treat the vats in zapm like fountains? 17:42 i.e. not drink from them 17:42 leave them alone 17:43 I have a feeling the vats are less dangerous than fountains 17:44 DIED: bleeko (Pri-Hum-Mal-Neu), 292 points, 506 turns, killed by a small mimic on hardfought 17:45 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 17:47 Mekkis: Did you get the email address issue sorted? 17:47 Sorry I did not see your message earier. 17:48 realinari the vats might have a toxin you can use to kill alien spawn inside of you. drink em at that point 17:49 alien spawn inside me 17:49 great 17:49 so far I’m getting radiation sickness only it seems 17:49 I think it’s from the vats 17:50 ty 17:51 The alien inside you comes from being attacked by a certain type of alien. 17:51 facehuggers, IIRC. 17:52 Just like in the movie. 17:52 Radiation can come from drinking from vats, or carrying certain things in inventory. 17:52 ok, I make a mental note of staying away from all eggs 17:52 how can I get rid of the radiation? 17:53 it kills me slowly 17:53 the vats are far less dangerous directly 17:53 but far *more* dangerous indirectly 17:53 they usually give you radiation sickness 17:54 but it's worth drinking them for mutation powers once you are at the state where you can offer to pay docbot for purification 17:54 purification solves radiation? 17:54 cause I’ve been getting that from vats too 17:55 DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 3086 points, 1295 turns, killed by a green mold on hardfought 17:56 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 240 points, 1401 turns, killed by a gecko, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu 17:57 also, what’s up with charisma functioning like mana? 17:59 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 204 points, 401 turns, killed by a carnivorous bag on hdf-eu 17:59 ZAPM: inari the Summer Intern Killed by radiation sickness in the space base at depth 2. [1604 points] 18:00 DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 467 points, 667 turns, killed by a gnome on hardfought 18:03 DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 2398 points, 3650 turns, killed by a pony, while sleeping on hardfought 18:08 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 18:09 [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 1370 points, T:2686, killed by a giant bat 18:10 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 18:11 DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 440 points, 1033 turns, killed by a brown mold on hardfought 18:11 DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 4 points, 5 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hardfought 18:19 [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 172 points, T:255, killed by a coyote 18:19 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 18:23 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 18:27 -!- Jendic has joined #hardfought 18:28 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 2422 points, 3967 turns, killed by an orcish arrow on hdf-eu 18:29 ASCENDED: Jendic (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 2854330 points, 46259 turns, ascended on hardfought 18:29 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/J/Jendic/dn36/dumplog/1511544039.dn36.txt 18:29 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 18:30 TROPHY: Jendic just earned the Dilithium Star 18:30 :D :D :D 18:30 gz 18:32 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 18:34 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:35 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! ShivanHunter completed the Pac-Man challenge. 18:40 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 18:40 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 18:41 -!- Jendic has quit [Quit: *poof*] 18:44 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 18:45 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 18:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 18:51 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 18:52 DIED: tilia (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2034 points, 7429 turns, killed by a rothe on hardfought 18:58 DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 202 points, 191 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought 18:58 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 18:58 qqqq 18:58 nvm 18:59 [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 11551 points, T:6303, killed by a bolt of cold 19:01 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 19:07 DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 3349 points, 1982 turns, killed by a giant ant on hardfought 19:08 DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 8 points, 100 turns, killed by a grid bug on hardfought 19:09 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 28973 points, 10905 turns, killed by a human zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 19:10 DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 52 points, 48 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hardfought 19:14 ASCENDED: noims (Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha), 2785218 points, 46818 turns, ascended on hdf-eu 19:14 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/noims/dn36/dumplog/1511736019.dn36.txt 19:15 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 19:15 TROPHY: noims just earned the Hat Trick 19:21 DIED: bebing (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 1017 points, 3168 turns, killed by a rothe on hardfought 19:29 are there any non-humanoid demons? 19:31 Jubilex 19:31 DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 578 points, 5875 turns, killed by a purple worm on hardfought 19:32 *Juiblex 19:32 Also some other demon lords 19:32 hm 19:33 actually 19:33 plenty of demons are non-humanoid 19:34 horned devils, barbed devils, vrock, bone devil, ice devil, pit fiend, balrog, Juiblex, Yeenoghu, Orcus, Geryon, Baalzebub, Demogorgon 19:34 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 19:35 -!- StatueSurfer has left #hardfought 19:36 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1789 points, 3696 turns, killed by an orc mummy on hdf-eu 19:39 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 19:39 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:40 DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 416 points, 1742 turns, killed by a wererat on hardfought 19:41 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 19:41 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 19:43 -!- hpardis has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:45 -!- bouquet has quit [Client Quit] 19:45 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 19:50 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 19:51 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:52 DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 973 points, 1035 turns, killed by a gnome king on hardfought 19:52 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 19:53 -!- Menchie has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:55 DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 311 points, 429 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hardfought 20:00 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 20:06 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 20:30 ZAPM: inari the Summer Intern Killed by a giant cockroach in the space base at depth 2. [2419 points] 20:39 hi 20:39 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 20:40 ZAPM: inari the Odd Ball Killed by kicking a door in the space base at depth 1. [500 points] 20:41 -!- elenmirie\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:49 DIED: bleeko (Pri-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1255 points, 1915 turns, killed by a hill orc on hardfought 20:58 DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 11093 points, 16313 turns, killed by a dog on hardfought 21:01 ZAPM: arnibald the Corporal Killed by a dogbot in the space base at depth 5. [5863 points] 21:02 DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 136 points, 945 turns, killed by a water demon on hardfought 21:04 ZAPM: arnibald the Summer Intern Killed by a fuel barrel's explosion in the space base at depth 1. [1028 points] 21:06 -!- sebastia1toby has joined #hardfought 21:09 FIQhack updated 21:09 -!- sebastiantoby has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:11 DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 837 points, 2297 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 21:16 ZAPM: inari the Weirdo Killed by a stormtrooper in the space base at depth 5. [6128 points] 21:16 DIED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 394 points, 761 turns, killed by a werejackal on hardfought 21:19 DIED: Webmant (Rog-Hum-Mal-Cha), 74 points, 188 turns, zapped himself with a wand on hardfought 21:21 DIED: bleeko (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 1170 points, 2479 turns, killed by a gnome on hardfought 21:31 ZAPM: arnibald the Q/A Tester Killed by a crite in the space base at depth 5. [5633 points] 21:38 [un] William (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 2075 points, T:2714, killed by a rothe 21:48 K2: do you like to hike, and if so where is your favorite place to hike? This came up in another channel. 21:54 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 21:57 -!- SenseiTav has joined #hardfought 21:57 Aloha 21:57 Hello SenseiTav, Welcome to #hardfought 22:00 ZAPM: inari the Weirdo Killed by radiation sickness in the space base at depth 7. [7655 points] 22:02 aosdict really? 22:02 i like to hike in the woods around where i live 22:02 and then i hike when the army tells me to (those arent as fun) 22:05 DIED: tav (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 1122017 points, 55243 turns, petrified by a cockatrice corpse on hardfought 22:05 too bad, I forgot a succubus made me naked ... 22:06 and I had an AlS 22:06 TROPHY: tav just earned the Brass Star 22:09 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 22:16 ZAPM: arnibald the Web Designer Pwned by a low ping bastard in the space base at depth 11. [11354 points] 22:19 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 22:19 The ZAPM announcements make me want to try it 22:20 If they advertised the Orgasmotron on the cover it would probably be more popular than nethack 22:20 you haven't yet? 22:20 nope :/ 22:20 also why does your name look so dang much like "greg" 22:20 it's very confusing every time I notice the g and q are opposite of where they should be 22:20 yeah it's a problem because a lot of people think it's supposed to be greg 22:20 and that I'm a greg 22:21 I actually mashed my keyboard one day and this name came out 22:22 I don't really use it for anything anymore but I've been playing nethack for a long time so it persists 22:22 Perhaps my alternate alias grqerg is less confusing 22:23 I used to get you and machinespray confused because you both had blue names and seemed to be right in between luxidream and I, skillwise 22:23 now I can remember you're the one who also joined us for devnull 22:23 heh 22:23 and the streaming thing helps too 22:23 ah yeah, puts a face to the name 22:23 machinespray is on our devnull team btw :P 22:24 I think they've been busy though 22:24 not sure if they've logged many games 22:24 (not that I have) 22:24