00:01 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: jimbentler (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 3940 points, 10348 turns, killed by a chameleon imitating a vampire lord on hardfought
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01:00 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: mtf (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 2598 points, 3083 turns, killed by a gnome king on hardfought
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01:41 <Beholder> [nh4] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 41787 points, T:5969, killed by a soldier ant
02:02 <Beholder> [nh4] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3006 points, T:89, quit
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02:08 <Beholder> [nh4] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1843 points, T:9, quit
02:13 <Beholder> [nh4] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3006 points, T:35, quit
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03:13 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ASCENDED: attie (Val-Dwa-Mal-Law), 2496684 points, 41422 turns, ascended on hdf-au
03:13 <NotTheOracle\dnt> https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/a/attie/dn36/dumplog/1509538823.dn36.txt
03:14 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: attie just earned the Dilithium Star
03:20 <Beholder> [nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 233 points, T:345, killed by a killer bee
03:34 <Beholder> [nh4] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 46912 points, T:7245, killed by a soldier ant
03:53 <Beholder> [nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:2921
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04:06 <Beholder> [nd] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 5165 points, T:5212, killed by a giant spider
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04:28 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1694 points, 1968 turns, killed by a dart on hardfought
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04:47 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3248 points, 2005 turns, killed by a rock troll on hardfought
04:48 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 50 points, 157 turns, killed by a newt, while reading a book on hardfought
05:03 <NotTheOracle\dnt> CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! inari accepted the Pac-Man challenge.
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05:18 <NotTheOracle\dnt> CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! inari accepted the Grue challenge.
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05:34 <Beholder> [nh4] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3004 points, T:6, quit
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05:46 <Beholder> [nh4] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 31932 points, T:1582, killed by a soldier ant
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07:10 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 133884 points, 10082 turns, petrified by losing gloves while wielding a cockatrice corpse on hdf-au
07:10 <Tangles> god damit.
07:10 <Beholder> Tangles: Message from realinari at 2017-11-21 10:18 EST: inari needs help with a reload after he bugged out the purple boulder playing pool on sokoban turning it into 20 spellbooks of force bolt
07:11 <Tangles> ugh ok. I hope K2 got that.
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07:15 <ShivanHunterLapt> yo
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07:15 <LarienTelrunya> ShivanHunterLapt: join my clan *buuuuuuuuundlebundlebundle* ♥
07:16 <LarienTelrunya> (I also tried to send that mail to you but apparently it doesn't work for some reason)
07:16 <ShivanHunterLapt> I know at some point for 3.6.0 the ability to wish for other roles' quest artifacts was removed. Does that apply for the devnull tribute version?
07:16 <ShivanHunterLapt> ah lol
07:17 <LarienTelrunya> sadly I don't know how 3.6.0 changes artiwishing
07:18 <ShivanHunterLapt> IIRC it changed and then changed back at some point
07:29 <jonadab> ShivanHunterLapt: The wishing aspect hasn't changed, but 3.6.0 has a bug wherein you can't actually _use_ other roles' quest artifacts.  It's fixed in 3.6.1, but probably not fixed in devnull.
07:30 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1344 points, 690 turns, killed by a killer bee on hdf-au
07:30 <ShivanHunterLapt> damn
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07:30 <ShivanHunterLapt> Welp no mkot I guess
07:33 <jonadab> YASI:  using a wand of wishing to wish for an artifact causes the wand to glow brown for a second, draining an additional charge from the wand.  Unless it was a wrest wish, in which case it doesn't quite work and you just get the artifact's base item.
07:34 <LarienTelrunya> heh, YASI: if you have sex with a foocubus and a sentient monster is watching, it can get furious and start throwing rocks at you.
07:36 <FIQ> that is wron
07:36 <FIQ> the bug was introduced in 3.6.1
07:36 <ShivanHunterLapt> you sure? I'll try for the mkot if it'll work
07:36 <LarienTelrunya> ShivanHunterLapt: I really want you in my clan just like in the good old times :) https://www.hardfought.org/devnull/clanmgmt/
07:37 <ShivanHunterLapt> hmmm ;)
07:37 <jonadab> YASI: if you have sex with an incubus, you can end up having constant nausea for the next few thousand turns.  If you have sex with a succubus, and then kill it, your god can become angry; if you have sex with a succubus and _don't_ kill it, it can turn up 9000 turns later and drag you into court (suing for child support)...
07:37 <FIQ> yes I am sure
07:37 <jonadab> FIQ: Oh, huh, ok.
07:37 <jonadab> In that case, devnull should be unaffected.
07:37 <ShivanHunterLapt> alriiiight I'm going for it
07:38 <ShivanHunterLapt> (it's a lamp so inb4 no wish anyway)
07:38 <jonadab> Dragging you into court results in 5d10 lawyers, imported from ZAPM.
07:38 <jonadab> Which are not genocideable.
07:39 <ShivanHunterLapt> w00t w00t
07:40 <ShivanHunterLapt> cya later nerds, way too much lag on this connection
07:40 <ShivanHunterLapt> I hit a floating eye earlier because of it lol
07:40 <FIQ> see you
07:40 <LarienTelrunya> yay, welcome in the clan :)
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07:47 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1329 points, 2117 turns, killed by a wolf on hdf-au
08:01 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1334 points, 802 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hdf-au
08:12 <aosdict> jonadab: well at least that's a happier outlook on pregnancy than ZAPM has
08:16 <jonadab> aosdict: Heh.
08:38 <aoei\splat> uh oh. just trapdoored into the catacombs
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09:09 <Porkman> oink
09:16 <K2> Tangles :(
09:16 <K2> realinari: what happened exactly?
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09:24 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 3 turns, killed by a falling object on hdf-eu
09:25 <realinari> with the bug?
09:25 <K2> yes
09:25 <realinari> I don’t know, my game had disappeared when I logged in to day
09:25 <realinari> *today
09:25 <K2> hrm
09:25 <K2> EU server yes?
09:26 <realinari> I can replicate it
09:26 <realinari> yes EU
09:26 <realinari> I’m in a new one now
09:26 <K2> I see you logged in to the EU server now, how far is that game?
09:26 <realinari> not something I care about
09:27 <realinari> saved it
09:27 <K2> ok
09:27 <realinari> I’m ok either way, doesn’t matter, but would be interesting having a look at the bugged out one
09:28 <K2> well... :/
09:28 <K2> you started a new game and saved it already
09:28 <Beholder> [nh4] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 48780 points, T:10670, killed by a black pudding
09:28 <realinari> hahaha
09:28 <realinari> ok
09:28 <K2> the backup save is overwritten
09:28 <realinari> I’ll see what happens this time then
09:28 <realinari> if I can recreate it
09:29 <K2> ok. any details you can share in the way of an error msg (if any) and what you were doing and the conditions will help
09:29 <realinari> for a few hours there was an orphan nh process I expect, then that had disappeared when I logged in today
09:30 <realinari> no error message
09:30 <K2> the paniclog shows 'impossible named object not in disco'
09:30 <realinari> :H
09:31 <K2> that error msg shows up everywhere all the time
09:31 <realinari> I prodded the purple boulder with a spellbook of force bolt, then cast force bolt, I believe
09:31 <K2> ok
09:31 <realinari> that turned the purple boulder into 20 spellbooks of force bolt
09:31 <K2> lol awesome
09:31 <realinari> when I looked at it it was still a ‘boulder'
09:32 <realinari> but when I walked onto the square it was 20 spellbooks of force bolt
09:32 <realinari> when I picked up the 20 spellbooks of forcebolt I got ‘M - 20 spellbooks of force bolt'
09:32 <realinari> in my inventory
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09:32 <realinari> but the boulder was still there when I looked at it
09:33 <realinari> and I could pick up 20 spellbooks of force bolt as many times as I wanted
09:33 <K2> how odd
09:33 <realinari> when I saved the game, I never let me load that save again
09:33 <realinari> process went stale
09:34 <realinari> it’s a nice bug :D
09:34 <realinari> for a while I thought that was what the billiards level was supposed to be like
09:35 <K2> ah
09:35 <realinari> I never had time to play in november before
09:35 <K2> dont feel like you need to reproduce that if you dont want to
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09:35 <realinari> np
09:35 <K2> that's more than enough detail for us to re-create it
09:35 <realinari> allways nice to try and break something
09:35 <K2> yes :)
09:38 <realinari> well, give me wizard on hardfought and I can certainly try again
09:39 <realinari> but as I said, I think it was: prodding with spellbook, then casting spell at the boulder
09:39 <realinari> i /think/
09:39 <K2> ok
09:40 <realinari> may I add that I did not do any of this on purpose
09:40 <realinari> billiards was actually going well up till then
09:40 <realinari> ;)
09:41 <K2> heh ok :)
09:43 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3246 points, 6125 turns, killed by a bugbear on hdf-eu
09:43 <FIQ> K2: don't you do several backups?
09:44 <realinari> K2: by the way, I never started a new game deleting the old one..
09:44 <K2> i do but the newest one would have been from 24 hrs ago other than the normal backup dgl does
09:44 <K2> realinari: oh so this is all very recent then?
09:44 <realinari> the first few hours it detected that the first game was still ongoing
09:45 <realinari> today it never prompted me about the old game
09:45 <K2> hrm
09:45 <K2> yeah so on dgl side the regular backup is already overwritten
09:45 <realinari> it was, a few days ago
09:45 <realinari> first login since then is today
09:46 <K2> hah ok... EU server
09:46 <K2> hrm
09:46 <realinari> dgl is dgamelaunch?
09:46 <K2> there's no backup schema in place for the remotes
09:46 <K2> yes
09:46 <K2> i keep thinking we're taliing about hdf main
09:46 <realinari> k2: cheers to you for the wonderfull low ping by the way
09:47 <realinari> ;D
09:47 <K2> lol yw :P
09:47 <K2> when hdf eu goes mainstream i'll need to set up a remote backup plan like what hdf main has
09:47 <FIQ> K2: you should set up backups for ehdf too if you plan on making it permanent
09:48 <realinari> mmmh, europeans likes to live a little more dangerous anyway
09:48 <FIQ> realinari: I am sorry for your poor customer service. Consider asking for a refund
09:48 <FIQ> haha
09:48 <realinari> :D
09:48 <realinari> I want my time back!
09:49 <realinari> and take back the fun too!
09:49 <K2> FIQ
09:49 <K2> when hdf eu goes mainstream i'll need to set up a remote backup plan like what hdf main has
09:50 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Mischling (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 5411 points, 5319 turns, killed by an invisible barrow wight on hdf-eu
09:51 <realinari> ok, I’m back there
09:52 <K2> you going to recreate or just play normal?
09:52 <realinari> I can’t recreate it
09:52 <Tangles> realinari: Sorry I only got your message a little while ago, but saw that it was old.  Hence my comment that I hoped K2 got it. He's been keeping way more on top of the game recoveries.
09:52 <realinari> because apparently there is no prodding with a spellbook
09:52 <Tangles> but a stack of 20 spellbooks. That's odd.
09:53 <realinari> which is what I thought happened
09:53 <K2> hi tangles. sorry about your splat earlier, i saw the msg
09:53 <K2> bleh
09:54 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 226 points, 114 turns, killed by a giant rat on hdf-eu
09:55 <realinari> and casting force bolt just destroys the other boulders
09:55 <realinari> let me try a bit more
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09:56 <realinari> ops
09:56 <realinari> killed myself
09:57 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: inari (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 705 points, 1334 turns, killed by a cue boulder on hdf-eu
09:57 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 205 points, 465 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu
09:57 <Tangles> realinari: unique death :)
09:57 <Tangles> K2: Yeah that's 3 big splats since I started on elf wizards.
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10:01 <FIQ> Tangles: I suspect the spellcasting code
10:01 <FIQ> this is why
10:01 <FIQ>     /* pseudo is a temporary "false" object containing the spell stats */
10:01 <FIQ>     pseudo = mksobj(spellid(spell), FALSE, FALSE);
10:01 <FIQ>     pseudo->blessed = pseudo->cursed = 0;
10:01 <FIQ>     pseudo->quan = 20L; /* do not let useup get it */
10:01 <realinari> someone mentioned that the game creates 20 spellbooks for objects requiring an object when you cast a spell
10:01 <realinari> yes that
10:01 <FIQ> realinari: Yes, I just pasted that code
10:02 <FIQ> and yeah I was the one mentioning it
10:02 <FIQ> Tangles: basically I think, in some way, that the pseudo-object ended up leaking into the real world, possibly from stale pointers or such
10:03 <FIQ> *dangling
10:03 <Tangles> yeah ok.
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10:15 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2449 points, 3306 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning on hdf-eu
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10:22 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 5451 points, 4357 turns, killed by a panther on hdf-eu
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10:29 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 756 points, 1811 turns, killed by a hobbit, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu
10:30 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 8 points, 68 turns, killed by a goblin on hdf-eu
10:39 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1072 points, 1338 turns, killed by a hobbit, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu
10:43 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 13544 points, 6102 turns, killed by a gray unicorn on hdf-au
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10:50 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 504 points, 481 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hdf-au
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11:12 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: jackofclubs (Cav-Dwa-Mal-Law), 455 points, 1380 turns, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping on hardfought
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11:17 <NotTheOracle\dnt> QUIT: Mischling (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 2312 points, 3144 turns, quit on hdf-eu
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11:24 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 357 points, 939 turns, killed by an electric shock on hardfought
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11:48 <Beholder> [fh] Daisuke II (puck) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 31136 points, T:1339, killed by a rothe
11:56 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: dgoddard (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 9322 points, 5323 turns, killed by a mountain centaur on hardfought
12:19 <Beholder> [nh] seabass1211 (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 52 points, T:180, killed by a sewer rat
12:31 <Beholder> [fh] Johny (puck) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 30017 points, T:5174, killed by an orc shaman's force bolt
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12:49 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: dgoddard (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 5658 points, 2736 turns, killed by an energy vortex on hardfought
12:56 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ASCENDED: Tariru (Rog-Orc-Fem-Cha), 1580568 points, 28393 turns, ascended on hdf-eu
12:56 <NotTheOracle\dnt> https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tariru/dn36/dumplog/1511566855.dn36.txt
12:58 <aoei\splat> blessed ?oSM is helpful for the new raven medusa level
13:00 <greqrg> Yeah I wouldn't mind scare monster there
13:01 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: jackofclubs (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 773 points, 1076 turns, killed by a hobbit, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought
13:10 <aoei\splat> and now two master lichs are dead
13:10 <aoei\splat> yay
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13:17 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: dgoddard (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 7833 points, 4431 turns, killed by a minotaur on hardfought
13:18 <rikersan> !who
13:18 <Beholder> rikersan: jackofclubs [dn36] dgoddard [dn36] hothraxxa [dn36] oh6 [dn36] Webmant [dn36] jonathanhanes [dn36] Nobbs [nh4] 
13:28 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: jackofclubs (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 2817 points, 4072 turns, killed by a white unicorn on hardfought
13:39 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: jackofclubs (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 635 points, 1281 turns, killed by a werejackal on hardfought
13:40 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: jackofclubs (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 4 points, 27 turns, killed by a falling rock on hardfought
13:41 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Tariru (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 2294 points, 4685 turns, poisoned by a rotted shrieker corpse on hdf-eu
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14:02 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Mischling (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 412 points, 528 turns, killed by a giant rat on hdf-eu
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14:10 <Beholder> [dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non), 106 points, T:268, killed by a fox
14:18 <Beholder> [dnh] porkmantwo (Ana Inc Fem Neu), 1644 points, T:1330, killed by a soldier ant
14:18 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: jackofclubs (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1340 points, 3318 turns, killed by a blue jelly on hardfought
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14:20 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 334 points, 682 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion on hdf-eu
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14:21 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: jackofclubs (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 212 points, 602 turns, killed by a hobbit on hardfought
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15:02 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 6807 points, 6988 turns, killed by a snake on hdf-eu
15:07 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 681 points, 743 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu
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15:17 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 862 points, 1925 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hdf-eu
15:17 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: jmcunx (Hea-Hum-Fem-Neu), 71 points, 185 turns, killed by a goblin on hardfought
15:25 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ASCENDED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2106903 points, 49551 turns, ascended on hardfought
15:25 <NotTheOracle\dnt> https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/dn36/dumplog/1511563711.dn36.txt
15:26 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 388 points, 1749 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu
15:26 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: k2 just earned the Dilithium Star
15:26 <K2> wewt
15:27 <spontiff> congrats
15:27 <elenmirie\splat> go team splat!
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15:29 <K2> thanks!
15:29 <K2> i forgot to toss an egg at the high preiest
15:29 <FIQ> K2: gz!
15:30 <K2> *priest
15:37 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: dgoddard (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 69697 points, 14434 turns, petrified by a cockatrice, while getting stoned on hardfought
15:38 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1112 points, 1715 turns, killed by a giant bat on hdf-eu
16:09 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 5532 points, 4724 turns, killed by a water demon on hdf-eu
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16:16 <aosdict> grats K2
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16:38 <raisse\splat> belated congrats K2
16:38 <K2> thanks raisse
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16:54 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ASCENDED: Mandevil (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 2021072 points, 34534 turns, ascended on hdf-eu
16:54 <NotTheOracle\dnt> https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Mandevil/dn36/dumplog/1511360556.dn36.txt
16:54 <Jendic> Congrats!
16:55 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: Mandevil just earned the Birdie (with bells on!) and Double Top
16:55 <raisse\splat> congrats Mandevil\splat!
16:55 <K2> wooo Mandevil\splat go!
16:56 <Mandevil\splat> 22:55 < NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: Mandevil just earned the Birdie (with bells on!) and Double Top
16:56 <Mandevil\splat> Castle WoW completely unused.
16:57 <greqrg> Nice
16:57 <greqrg> 'grats Mandevil\splat 
16:57 <greqrg> oh nice, 'grats k2!
16:57 <K2> thx!
17:05 <FIQ> gz Mandevil\splat !
17:06 <Mandevil\splat> Thanks
17:14 <aosdict> grats
17:23 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: noims (Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha), 14909 points, 9615 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hdf-eu
17:24 <Beholder> [dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2170
17:24 * aosdict gives Mandevil the Birdie WBO plus Double Top secret handshake
17:25 <Mandevil\splat> :)
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17:38 <Porkman> what's a birdie with double top
17:41 <raisse\splat> double top = all alignments, birdie = both genders
17:41 <raisse\splat> so if you have 2 of one gender and 1 of the other, you have both
17:41 <raisse\splat> with bells on = in a streak
17:42 <raisse\splat> birdie WBO = ascended male and female without any games in between
17:42 <raisse\splat> I have the double top and the birdie but no bells because I died a lot between the ascensions
17:43 <raisse\splat> (now working on hat trick = all races)
17:43 <raisse\splat> hat trick necessarily includes double top because all races implies all alignments, but not the birdie because they can all be the same gender
17:44 <raisse\splat> I have to remember to play one male to get the birdie
17:44 <raisse\splat> because my rc has OPTIONS=gender:female
17:45 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Qwesti (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 260 points, 199 turns, killed by a boulder on hardfought
17:45 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: k2 (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 8252 points, 5904 turns, killed by a leocrotta on hardfought
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18:17 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: jmcunx (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 822 points, 2598 turns, poisoned by a rotted dwarf corpse on hardfought
18:26 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bleeko (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 1083 points, 1490 turns, killed by a centipede on hardfought
18:38 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bleeko (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 845 points, 909 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hardfought
18:43 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3211 points, 3904 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu
18:46 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 333 points, 608 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu
18:48 <Porkman> but do you get all that from playing DNH?
18:48 <Porkman> or is it only vanilla
18:50 <raisse\splat> Porkman: it's the devnull tribute tournament
18:50 <raisse\splat> special tournament trophies
18:50 <shpingrlde> there's a sub-menu for playing the tournament version of vanilla Nethack 3.6.0
18:51 <raisse\splat> https://www.hardfought.org/devnull/
18:51 <shpingrlde> dnh counts for the june tourney though
18:52 <shpingrlde> that's when we raise Zombifier from the dead to help ootc out with the dnh stuff :)
18:53 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 498 points, 1510 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hdf-eu
18:55 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 105440 points, 26935 turns, killed by a winged gargoyle on hdf-eu
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19:07 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bleeko (Bar-Hum-Mal-Neu), 788 points, 1053 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought
19:09 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: jmcunx (Mon-Hum-Fem-Law), 991 points, 2278 turns, killed by a kitten on hardfought
19:09 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bleeko (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 4 points, 39 turns, killed by a fox on hardfought
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19:27 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 6164 points, 8974 turns, killed by a blast of frost on hardfought
19:29 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: ShivanHunter just earned the Plastic Star
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19:48 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ASCENDED: Grasshopper (Ran-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3590803 points, 63815 turns, ascended on hdf-au
19:48 <NotTheOracle\dnt> https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Grasshopper/dn36/dumplog/1510839143.dn36.txt
19:49 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: Grasshopper now holds the Highest Scored Ranger
19:49 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: Grasshopper just earned the Double Top
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19:50 <rikersan> YANI: shopkeepers can be elven, orcish, dwarven, or gnomish in addition to human
19:50 <rikersan> likely would give a small discount, like 10% or something, to same-race PCs
19:50 <rikersan> and stock racial armor/weapons instead of other versions, where applicable
19:51 <rikersan> i.e. if it would be a spear, it would be a dwarven/elven/orcish spear
19:51 <rikersan> chain mail would be orcish or elven/dwarf mithril
19:51 <Beholder> [slex] KickyMcAssingtn (Sha Esp Fem Law), 1133 points, T:1365, killed by a monster (flying shark)
19:52 <shpingrlde> some variants have non human shk's already. I think unnethack is one
19:55 <jonadab> SporkHack originated that, I think.
19:55 <jonadab> Grunt may also have it.
19:56 <Grasshopper> grunt has it
19:56 <jonadab> I think there are differences between some of the implementations, as well, in terms of what the available races are and what all implications they have.
20:02 <aosdict> I think most of the variants took a nerfy approach to non-human shopkeepers though, didn't they?
20:02 <aosdict> Like shopping as an elf and an orcish shopkeeper hates you and marks up prices
20:03 <jonadab> Generally, yes.
20:03 <jonadab> But I think the details are non-identical.
20:03 <aosdict> I never heard of a shopkeeper *reducing* prices for a same-race player.
20:04 <jonadab> Ah, that's an interesting point.
20:04 <jonadab> Perhaps they should.
20:04 <jonadab> Perhaps only certain races.
20:04 <aosdict> rikersan: possibly one reason for that is that the Cha modifiers are balanced so someone with more than 18 charisma will neither gain nor lose money buying and selling an item.
20:04 <jonadab> Likely not including orcs.
20:04 <aosdict> If you got further discounts, you could slowly farm all the shk's gold
20:05 <aosdict> 10% discount? Okay, I have 19 Cha so I'll buy this scroll of fire for 45 gold, then re-sell it for 50.
20:05 <rikersan> aosdict: makes sense, that's not hard to cap though
20:05 <jonadab> Maybe certain races of shopkeepers could treat same-race players as having a Cha bonus.
20:06 <aosdict> YANI: instead of giving a discount on the price directly, treat you like you have more or less Cha.
20:06 <jonadab> ^
20:06 <jonadab> Yes, that.
20:06 <aosdict> haha, great minds think alike, or something
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20:22 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: tilia (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 330 points, 796 turns, killed by a hobbit on hardfought
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21:10 <rikersan> hm, what are the rules for beholder reporting wishes?
21:10 <rikersan> it sometimes does, sometimes doesn't
21:11 <K2> depends on how livelogging is implemented with that variant
21:11 <K2> Tangles added a lot to 3.6.1 dev
21:11 <K2> grunthack has a fair amount also
21:11 <K2> mileage will vary with other variants
21:11 <rikersan> dnh has shown my wishes before though
21:11 <rikersan> oh well
21:12 <K2> hmm
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21:12 <FIQ> I thought you guys ran 3.6.1-vanilla?
21:12 <FIQ> with no mods at all
21:12 <K2> only thing we added was livelogging
21:12 <FIQ> ok
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21:13 <K2> dnh has been updated twice without beholder being restarted
21:13 <K2> well... until now
21:14 <K2> that shouldnt be necessary
21:14 <K2> and why is it, I can copy season 1 episodes 4,5 and 7 of Westworld, but not episode 6 from the same disc?
21:14 <rikersan> chris may have broke something, it's fine
21:15 <FIQ> I mean
21:15 <FIQ> dnethack has always been kinda bugg
21:15 <FIQ> y
21:15 <K2> its almost as bad as fiqhack
21:15 <K2> :P
21:15 <FIQ> :P
21:15 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bleeko (Bar-Hum-Mal-Neu), 581 points, 475 turns, killed by a dart on hardfought
21:15 <FIQ> K2: it has gotten better though
21:16 <FIQ> people can actually play full games until ascension without encountering a single bug now
21:16 <K2> i am going to have to start wrapping most of my comments with <sarcasm> </sarcasm> tags
21:16 <FIQ> why sarcasm?
21:16 <FIQ> it is true
21:16 <FIQ> well, was
21:16 <K2> no
21:16 <FIQ> fiqhack was really buggy back in the day
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21:17 <K2> you could say that all code ever written was buggy when it first came out
21:17 <FIQ> slex even references it, unlike for other variants (including dnh!)
21:17 <K2> of anything
21:17 <FIQ> src/pager.c
21:18 <FIQ> 5438:   "Konnichi wa Erotic Thai Bitch, welcome to FIQHack! You are a lawful female human Samurai. The game will crash whenever you fumble around with your bag of holding because the nethack4 system is teh crash0r.",
21:18 <FIQ> that particular bug was rather annoying
21:18 <FIQ> it was actually a NH4 bug, but for some reason fiqhack tripped it far more often
21:18 <FIQ> a lot of the time when you cancelled actions
21:18 <FIQ> the game would throw a fit
21:19 <FIQ> made it rather annoying to play
21:19 <K2> i am going to be really annoyed if i cant rip episode 6
21:28 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bleeko (Bar-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1040 points, 1359 turns, killed by a hobbit on hardfought
21:29 <NotTheOracle\dnt> ASCENDED: Webmant (Rog-Orc-Mal-Law), 3063671 points, 78930 turns, ascended on hardfought
21:29 <NotTheOracle\dnt> https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/W/Webmant/dn36/dumplog/1511469222.dn36.txt
21:31 <NotTheOracle\dnt> TROPHY: Webmant just earned the Hat Trick
21:31 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bleeko (Pri-Hum-Mal-Neu), 212 points, 191 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought
21:35 <K2> episode 6 - success
21:35 <K2> whew
21:41 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: tilia (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2520 points, 2850 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hardfought
21:51 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bleeko (Pri-Hum-Mal-Neu), 669 points, 1604 turns, killed by a rothe on hardfought
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22:03 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bleeko (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 290 points, 582 turns, killed by a bugbear on hardfought
22:18 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bleeko (Pri-Hum-Mal-Neu), 984 points, 1942 turns, killed by a werejackal on hardfought
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22:53 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 9000 points, 6987 turns, killed by a chameleon imitating a baluchitherium on hdf-au
22:53 <Tangles> did not even see it coming.
22:55 <greqrg>  :/
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