00:02 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 00:11 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 00:12 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: bouquet] 00:12 I found vlad, hanging out on DL 7 00:19 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 00:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 00:21 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 00:23 DIED: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 13932 points, 7206 turns, killed by a rope golem on hardfought 00:31 DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 474632 points, 17639 turns, killed by Yeenoghu (with the Amulet) on hdf-au 00:31 DIED: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 1251 points, 1675 turns, killed by a small mimic on hardfought 00:40 DIED: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 728 points, 2621 turns, killed by a giant mimic on hardfought 00:49 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 00:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 00:51 DIED: Raisse (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1034 points, 3809 turns, killed by an acid blob on hdf-eu 00:57 DIED: Raisse (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 407 points, 1363 turns, killed by a little dog, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 01:00 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:09 DIED: Raisse (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2232 points, 4624 turns, killed by an ape on hdf-eu 01:09 -!- deadnoob has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:14 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1064 points, 3386 turns, killed by a Mordor orc on hdf-eu 01:15 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 01:26 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 10490 points, 13261 turns, killed by a fire ant, while praying on altorg 01:35 DIED: Raisse (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 3173 points, 3968 turns, killed by a hill orc, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu 01:44 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 01:50 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:56 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 02:04 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 541 points, 1627 turns, killed by a hobgoblin on altorg 02:05 !tell K2 hmm, apparently slex has weird crashes on hardfought... loli says that he has a reproducible crash, and I'd like to test that myself, can you copy the dolores savegame to AmyBSOD (i.e. if it's 1003dolores, rename a copy of that to 1003AmyBSOD so I can test it) please? ;) 02:05 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 02:08 !tell K2 actually, loli will have to save the game first to make it into an actual savegame again; currently there's probably level files in the playground 02:08 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 02:09 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 94 points, 562 turns, killed by a wand on altorg 02:09 !tell K2 okay he saved, so there should be a 1003dolores savegame now 02:09 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 02:31 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1259 points, 3031 turns, killed by an invisible bugbear on altorg 02:49 -!- shpingrlde has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:50 -!- shpingrlde has joined #hardfought 02:51 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 9652 points, 8732 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hdf-eu 03:01 unicorns are jerks 03:02 DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3386 points, 2338 turns, killed by a white unicorn on hdf-au 03:09 !tell ais523 while I don't really know the windowing system well enough to confidently implement submenu handling or similar, what I could do is to implement it "by hand" from a higher level, would that be crazy? 03:09 Will do, FIQ! 03:10 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:19 [nh4] Prometheus (Uirusu3301) (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 15461 points, T:565, escaped 03:20 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1701 points, 5156 turns, poisoned by a killer bee on altorg 03:25 CHALLENGE IGNORED! Kontroller ignored the ZAPM challenge. 03:34 [nh4] Athena (Uirusu3301) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 8760 points, T:330, killed by a grid bug 03:35 "You start digging. You hit the rock with all your might. It explodes! You seem unaffected by it. You make an opening in the wall." 03:36 Wow... I was trying to hit it hard but didn't think that I'd hit it THAT hard 03:37 lol 03:37 that sounds like a really cool artifact pickaxe, Grasshopper . yani ^ 03:38 DIED: Raisse (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 7963 points, 9471 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hdf-eu 03:38 but it completely negates arc stealth 03:38 ooh 03:38 gotta love finding a wizzard's bones with magicbane 03:38 maybe it'd make more sense as a hammer 03:40 -!- hf_guest has joined #hardfought 03:40 -!- hf_guest is now known as Luxidream 03:47 ooh, gotta love leaving double bones 03:50 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 03:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 03:53 rip deadnoob 03:53 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:53 such a good name though 03:54 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 03:54 idk 03:55 I feel like 'alivenoob' would be better for your health 03:55 but that's just me 03:56 dunno, "deadnoob" is kinda timeless. I mean you could be really experienced by still call yourself deadnoob 03:57 by/but 03:57 suspect someone already taken "deadmeat" on NAO at least 03:57 hm, I have a deep distrust of people calling themselves noob 03:58 yes, it could be a deception 03:58 real newbies probably don't know the slang variant :-) 03:59 some of these terms are fairly generic across gaming platforms 03:59 [nh4] phrackus (Uirusu3301) (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 13848 points, T:1227, killed by a gas cloud 04:07 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 718 points, 795 turns, killed by a rothe on hdf-eu 04:08 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 12731 points, 7961 turns, killed by a bolt of fire on hdf-eu 04:14 [slex] Uirusu3301 (Lad Yok Mal Law), 25 points, T:148, killed by a monster (luminescent stalk) 04:21 -!- Luxidream has quit [Quit: *poof*] 04:28 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Luxidream accepted the Dig-Dug challenge. 04:36 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:44 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 04:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 04:49 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 934 points, 1359 turns, poisoned by a rabid rat on hdf-eu 04:50 Tangles: apparently you can teleport pookas outside the challenge area which makes them unreachable 04:50 10/10 design, would digdug again 04:57 FIQ: I also give them a 10/10 for not using the (already existing!) method of restricting the portal to a sane area :P 05:03 CHALLENGE IGNORED! Luxidream ignored the Dig-Dug challenge. 05:12 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 759 points, 1470 turns, killed by an iguana on hdf-eu 05:14 LarienTelrunya: ? 05:14 There are restrictions on placement? 05:14 no, they can place you right next to a pooka with no way to get out other than digging, and he will take all your lives, which would not happen if the portal were restricted to the area where you can get that first wand! 05:15 does the original digdug game place you right in one of the cubbyholes on level start? no! :P 05:16 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 4 points, 21 turns, killed by a newt on hdf-eu 05:16 DIED: Raisse (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1622 points, 2785 turns, killed by a cave spider on hdf-eu 05:16 it's also the reason I couldn't complete digdug: because I spawned next to a pooka with no way to kill him or get away 05:21 YASI: make a complete digdug branch, complete with a kill screen if you reach a certain depth 05:23 [nd] mahershalal (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 1206 points, T:5566, killed by a raven 05:24 DIED: Raisse (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 412 points, 1032 turns, killed by a kitten on hdf-eu 05:26 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 684 points, 1686 turns, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping on hdf-eu 05:28 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 136 points, 266 turns, killed by a water demon on hdf-eu 05:30 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 26 points, 113 turns, killed by sipping boiling water on hdf-eu 05:36 DIED: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 469064 points, 32434 turns, killed by a shade on hardfought 05:37 DIED: Raisse (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2593 points, 3827 turns, killed by a fire ant on hdf-eu 05:38 TROPHY: dgoddard just earned the Brass Star 05:41 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:45 -!- katung has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:57 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 788 points, 3290 turns, killed by a fall onto poison spikes on hdf-eu 06:00 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 06:00 -!- aoei is now known as aoei\splat 06:02 probably the first time I'm happy to see that death 06:07 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 33 turns, petrified by a cockatrice egg, while getting stoned on hdf-eu 06:08 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:11 I just realised I got past Vlads and the quest and still haven't got me some sleep resist 06:19 "You make a light in the darkness; it doesn't last very long ..." 06:19 what did I do 06:30 ignite a fart? 06:32 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 06:32 -!- puck1 has joined #hardfought 06:36 rubbed a gray stone against a tin 06:36 no idea why it did taht 06:37 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2182 points, 3122 turns, shot himself with a death ray on hdf-eu 06:43 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 298 points, 515 turns, killed by a newt, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 06:45 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 317 points, 321 turns, killed by a homunculus on hdf-eu 06:50 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 473 points, 444 turns, killed by a rothe on hdf-eu 06:57 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 421 points, 587 turns, killed by an exploding rune on hdf-eu 07:07 hi 07:07 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 07:07 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2017-11-20 02:05 EST: hmm, apparently slex has weird crashes on hardfought... loli says that he has a reproducible crash, and I'd like to test that myself, can you copy the dolores savegame to AmyBSOD (i.e. if it's 1003dolores, rename a copy of that to 1003AmyBSOD so I can test it) please? ;) 07:07 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2017-11-20 02:08 EST: actually, loli will have to save the game first to make it into an actual savegame again; currently there's probably level files in the playground 07:07 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2017-11-20 02:09 EST: okay he saved, so there should be a 1003dolores savegame now 07:09 LarienTelrunya see pm 07:19 K2: if you are sharing the save, I don't think LarienTelrunya uses linux 07:19 (and NH3 saves are platform-dependant) 07:19 i'm convincing her to start learning to use linux 07:19 ahh 07:19 nice 07:19 probability of success: unknown 07:20 haha 07:22 the "copy savegame file to other account" method is really elegant though, as long as the server administrator is responsible enough to not allow players to "cheat" that way ;) in this case the purpose of it clearly is bug-hunting, I'd certainly not claim an ascension if I somehow ascended this test game (which I won't, anyway :D) 07:23 * K2 is not comfortable with that method 07:23 one time only 07:23 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 07:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 07:24 K2 confirmed corrupt admin 07:24 how does Chris_ANG handle such cases, if they crop up in dnethack? does he run the save locally with linux? 07:25 for me on esm, it's standard fare that if someone gets a savegame with a reproducible crash, that I'll transfer it to my "BSOD2" test account to see what triggers the bug 07:26 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 535 points, 490 turns, killed by Dirk, the shopkeeper on hdf-eu 07:30 HoB and speed boots on dlvl3, heh 07:39 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 597 points, 963 turns, killed by a priestess of Huhetotl on hdf-eu 07:46 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 07:57 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:00 DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 7740 points, 6643 turns, killed by a giant mimic on hdf-au 08:05 -!- firemonkey\splat has joined #hardfought 08:08 !tell LarienTelrunya linux virtual machine. Oracle virtual box plus Lubuntu worked best for me so far. 08:08 Chris_ANG: Message from FIQ at 2017-11-19 13:33 EST: ^ 08:08 Chris_ANG: Message from FIQ at 2017-11-19 13:33 EST: it would be nice if you could check container BUC in dnethack by dropping the container on an altar 08:08 Will do, Chris_ANG! 08:15 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 85 points, 44 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 08:18 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 294 points, 363 turns, killed by a giant bat on hdf-eu 08:20 DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 86 points, 105 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-au 08:26 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 723 points, 798 turns, killed by sitting on an iron spike on hdf-eu 08:35 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 719 points, 602 turns, killed by an orcish arrow, while praying on hdf-eu 08:38 DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1743 points, 1160 turns, killed by a dagger on hdf-au 08:43 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 383 points, 670 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hdf-eu 08:48 -!- StinkyGreene has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:49 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 394 points, 624 turns, killed by a watchman on hdf-eu 08:51 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 350 points, 192 turns, killed by a coyote on hdf-eu 08:57 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 476 points, 544 turns, killed by a bat on hdf-eu 08:58 DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 731 points, 1045 turns, killed by a pony, while praying on hdf-au 08:59 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 245 points, 93 turns, killed by a giant bat on hdf-eu 09:01 Chris_ANG: do you have any artifacts that cause explosions on-hit yet? 09:02 Several 09:03 If you want to find them in artilist.h, look for variations of "SPFX2_FIRE" 09:04 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:04 cool 09:05 I'd really like to play dnethack, but I'm a really slow player. and it's hard to go from NH4 to NH3 in general 09:05 I mean, I've played dnh, but not enough 09:06 invariably in the handful of runs that started going well, I came back after a break and forgot about the buff to shop Kops 09:07 lol, I have a similar problem with finishing games. 09:08 saved games: a - Foff Wiz-elf-fem-cha Exp:23, 66580 turns, on Dungeons:10 09:08 one of my pre-junethack FH games 09:08 -!- puck1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:09 Eventually Someday right 09:09 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 09:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 09:15 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Chris/dNetHack/Items#Changes_to_armor <- dnh's main page links to this, but that #changes jump point doesn't exist anymore 09:16 -!- lorimer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:17 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 09:17 -!- puck1 has joined #hardfought 09:18 DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1168 points, 1542 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hdf-au 09:19 DIED: Raisse (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 15955 points, 9727 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted ogre on hdf-eu 09:25 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 09:25 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 09:27 DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 400 points, 438 turns, killed by a gnome on hdf-au 09:29 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:32 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 1809 points, 3001 turns, killed by a hill orc on hdf-eu 09:32 ffs 09:32 I had levi 09:34 DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 691 points, 617 turns, killed by a gnome on hdf-au 09:35 FIQ: the "light in the darkness, it doesn't last very long" is rubbing flint and iron together 09:36 ahh 09:36 it's an artifact of the grue challenge 09:36 so you can use-ID flint now 09:36 in 3.6 09:36 good to know 09:36 oh, it's grue-specific? 09:36 huh 09:36 yeah 09:41 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 1002 points, 1012 turns, killed by a giant spider on hdf-eu 09:44 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 09:49 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 526 points, 530 turns, killed by a bolt of cold on hdf-eu 09:49 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:56 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 09:56 [fh] Satochi IX (puck) (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 Frost Brand", on T:22992 09:58 [fh] Satochi IX (puck) (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic mirror of merlin", on T:23000 10:00 [fh] Satochi IX (puck) (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:23000 10:02 -!- aoei\splat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:02 DIED: FIQ (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1673 points, 1285 turns, killed by a rogue called Mandevil on hdf-eu 10:03 Mandevil\splat: pls no kill 10:03 [fh] Satochi IX (puck) (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 cloak of displacement", on T:23015 10:06 FIQ: ? 10:06 my death 10:06 [fh] Satochi IX (puck) (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic mirror of merlin", on T:23043 10:06 Yes, but? 10:08 I assume you just named a player char? 10:09 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 10:09 rrrawr 10:10 Mandevil\splat: no 10:10 graveyard spawn 10:10 Ah. 10:10 you stole my unique death :P 10:10 (kind of) 10:10 only about half of the player roles count 10:10 rogues don't 10:10 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:11 Oh, devnull silliness. 10:11 DIED: FIQ (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 301 points, 355 turns, killed by axing a hard object on hdf-eu 10:12 mysterious force pls 10:12 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 10:12 stop dumping me next to this mind flayer 10:12 and stop keeping me hovering around level 40 10:14 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 40 turns, killed by an orcish dagger on hdf-eu 10:14 rikersan! 10:16 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 10 points, 17 turns, killed by kicking something weird on hdf-eu 10:16 wtf 10:16 killed by kicking something werid 10:17 -!- firemonkey\splat has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 10:18 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 93 turns, zapped himself with a spell on hdf-eu 10:27 porkman: I'm alive yes 10:28 !lastgame porkman 10:28 rikersan: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/porkman/dnethack/dumplog/1510857268.dnh.txt 10:36 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:37 DIED: tilia (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3143 points, 4498 turns, killed by a plains centaur on hardfought 10:43 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 10:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 10:44 I love the PYEC so much 10:45 whatcha charging with it? 10:45 wands of death, rings of increase damage, my lantern 10:46 a friend of mine refuses to ascend anything but tourists, because the pyec is so fun 10:46 some variants have spellbooks of charging, for your friend 10:46 ring charging is brave stuff, aosdict :D 10:47 well, he's polypiling like a madman afaict, so it's not that bad :p 10:47 hah 10:47 I had 3 of them. Got one up to +4 and blew up the other two, decided +4 was good enough 10:47 I do fully intend to push my luck when I find another prot ring, admittedly 10:48 aosdict: watcha doing with the figurine? 10:48 I might wish for an oilskin sack just to bypass the Plane of Water 10:59 ring charging i think got fixed in DNH 10:59 as in, anything +3 is safe to charge 11:00 hmm 11:00 an incantifier tourist 11:00 i need to have fun with 11:00 DIED: tilia (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2432 points, 4169 turns, killed by a hill orc on hardfought 11:05 -!- StinkyGreene has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:07 DIED: winny (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 4072 points, 2832 turns, killed by an invisible gnome lord on hardfought 11:08 DIED: Rex (Rog-Hum-Fem-Cha), 46204 points, 15979 turns, killed by a minotaur on hdf-eu 11:09 DIED: tilia (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 866 points, 2168 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hardfought 11:10 DIED: ian (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 180 points, 407 turns, eaten by a Grue on hardfought 11:14 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 11:14 DIED: tilia (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 508 points, 972 turns, killed by a giant bat on hardfought 11:22 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Delraven accepted the Waldo challenge. 11:25 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 11:26 Oh for goodness sake Rodney, this is the third time you've interrupted my polypiling 11:27 haha 11:28 I should really try to use these blessed scrolls of stinking cloud on Astral or somethin 11:28 g 11:29 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 866 points, 4300 turns, killed by a falling object on hdf-eu 11:30 [dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non) wished for "blessed fireproof greased +3 ogresmasher", on T:7877 11:33 DIED: winny (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1414 points, 1357 turns, killed by a kitten on hardfought 11:41 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 556 points, 1254 turns, killed by a gnome, while frozen by a potion on hdf-eu 11:41 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4 points, 60 turns, killed by a goblin on hdf-eu 11:42 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 6 turns, killed by a magic missile on hdf-eu 11:43 DIED: larry (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 296 points, 682 turns, killed by a giant bat on hardfought 11:47 let's do this 11:47 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 804 points, 1246 turns, killed by bumping into a wall, while moving through the air on hdf-eu 11:47 fiq is going for uniqe deaths? 11:47 aosdict: good luck! 11:48 DIED: tilia (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1347 points, 2499 turns, killed by a giant ant on hardfought 11:49 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha), 45 points, 37 turns, killed by a kobold zombie on hardfought 11:49 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 11:50 ah, I love air elementals on Air getting disintegrated 11:51 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 82 points, 49 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hardfought 11:51 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 246 turns, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph on hardfought 11:52 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 50 points, 86 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hardfought 11:54 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 929 points, 1136 turns, killed by a giant rat, while praying on hdf-eu 12:03 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! winny accepted the Waldo challenge. 12:06 !tell K2 pushed fixes 12:06 Will do, FIQ! 12:08 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 12:10 btw, some other devteam members don't like my !oRA buff 12:10 ais523: Message from aosdict at 2017-11-19 22:49 EST: the brass lantern isn't showing up in the list of chargeables either, for some reason. Same in 3.6.1. 12:10 ais523: Message from FIQ at 2017-11-20 03:09 EST: while I don't really know the windowing system well enough to confidently implement submenu handling or similar, what I could do is to implement it "by hand" from a higher level, would that be crazy? 12:10 ais523: reasons? 12:10 their concerns are a) people could use drain life + b!oRA to shuffle their skill points around, b) people could use it to retroactively apply Con increases 12:11 I'm arguing that neither of these are likely to be a problem in practice 12:11 I thought the retroactive Con thing was fixed 12:11 maybe that was dnethack 12:11 it applies retroactively in dnethack 12:12 also, the skill points thing could be changed so that you can't rearrange skill points like that, not sure why it was ever like that in the first place 12:12 I'm arguing that players are very unlikely to actually want to change their skilling, and if they do, it's most likely to correct a mistake/typo 12:12 you can do it with scrolls of amnesia in AceHack, nobody actually does though 12:13 no, rearranging skill points is a fairly common thing to do 12:13 to want to do* 12:13 examples? 12:13 because it means you can more recklessly invest them in the early game 12:13 I'd like to be informed wrt this debate 12:14 which roles have an early game skill that they wouldn't use late game? wizard with quarterstaff, I guess? 12:15 for example, in my current game (Tourist), I sunk points into long sword, dagger, and dart. Now I'm not using any of those, and could have used the saber+twoweapon slots earlier, if I had the ability to rearrange. 12:15 how many levels were you delayed in being able to get them both to expert? 12:15 ais523: I would argue that if anything, rearranging skills and fixing con stuff would be features 12:15 compared to when you had the experience for them? 12:15 but maybe that's just me... 12:15 it is really easy to regain the first 8 or so levels 12:16 and then quaff FH to regain half of the other lost ones 12:16 for that purpose 12:16 aosdict: also, would you have been willing to level drain yourself to 1 temporarily in order to reskill? 12:16 this is why I favor making this a beneficial effect of amnesia, so you can deliberately rearrange (at the cost of something else like spell memory) 12:16 ais523: no, because I wouldn't be able to make the levels back up 12:16 3.6.0 amnesia actually has a beneficial effect 12:16 it can make you forget spells 12:16 which no longer clears them from the spell list 12:17 it's quite marginal 12:17 allowing you to cast confuse self before T:20k 12:17 one thing I'm considering is a small maxHP penalty as a consequence of level draining, partly to nerf strategies involving repeated drain and regain (the rest of the devteam don't like those), partly to make wraiths/vampires more dangerous if you've just levelled up 12:17 ais523: 3.6.0 fixes drain for gain 12:17 aosdict: assuming you could have used a b!oRA to regain all the levels just afterwards 12:17 FIQ: I'm aware 12:17 do you know the precise details of the fix (so that I don't have to look them up)? 12:17 then something has to be done about MC or providing an easier source of drain resistance 12:18 because repeated draining and gaining back the level when you kill the draining monster is really common 12:18 Not intimately, but when I tried it in my extinctionist attempt, my max HP would never end up being increased from level up -> level down alone 12:18 (I tried like 20 times, it was the same each time) 12:18 aosdict: in general, do you believe that monsters in NetHack should not be dangerous? actually curious here, I can see an argument for it 12:19 although it's definitely a minority opinion, I'd say 12:19 So I assume it keeps track of your HP bonuses from level up 12:19 and undos them 12:19 I think Chris_ANG was exploring along those lines at one point 12:19 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:19 FIQ: even if you changed constitution in the meantime? 12:19 yes 12:19 I had a -3 ring of gain constitution 12:19 is the polyself bug affected the same way? 12:19 I think polyself wasn't fixed in 3.6.0 but was fixed later on 12:20 let me verify in commit logs 12:20 FIQ: why updates not automatic? 12:20 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 12:20 puck1: That is something you have to ask K2 12:20 presumably so that I can't introduce a security bug into NH4 or whatever and then immediately use it to hack the server 12:22 I mean, it's sandboxed 12:22 congrats asosdict 12:22 *aosdict 12:22 hmm I can't see any kind of fix for polyself into new human/whatever 12:23 let me wiztest 12:23 thank you rikersan 12:23 aw, you killed twoflower? 12:23 10 wizards of yendor 12:23 no I didn't 12:23 hm 12:23 I think that might be a devnull bug 12:23 it says vanquished so 12:23 ah 12:23 it said that for the arch priest last game 12:23 probably counts extinct things as killed when they aren't 12:24 I also extincted high priests 12:24 well, 3/3 were gen'd on astral so 12:24 I guess you techinically did 12:24 ASCENDED: aosdict (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2357666 points, 39930 turns, ascended on hardfought 12:24 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/aosdict/dn36/dumplog/1510583467.dn36.txt 12:24 congrats aosdict! 12:24 ais523: OK, I don't know where the codepath is, but polyself exploit isn't there anymore 12:24 I went from 36 -> 48 HP 12:24 extinct = all possible have been created, I think 12:25 from XL 1 -> 3 12:25 FIQ: probably it just uses the same formula for polyself level up that it does for regular level up, then? 12:25 TROPHY: aosdict now holds the Highest Scored Tourist 12:25 TROPHY: aosdict just earned the Birdie (with bells on!) and Double Top 12:25 extinct should be number of killed = all possible to create 12:25 that's why the Oracle is marked as extinct even if you (or your pet) didn't kill her 12:25 ais523: Probably, yeah 12:25 what, no double top bells? 12:25 what are the opinions on retroactive constitution here? 12:25 (and the equivalent for Pw?) 12:25 I like it 12:25 aosdict: you just need to gen them I think 12:26 I suggested it to Chris_ANG in first place :P 12:26 I recall people having nazgul marked as extinct despite only killing some, because all 9 were indeed generated 12:26 in dungeons and dragons, retro-Con kills are actually a viable strategy 12:26 ais523: but one thing worth having in mind is that it can potentially lead to major HP gain 12:26 if your con is, say, 4 12:26 you gain a bunch of levels 12:26 and then get it to 18 12:26 oh right I splatted some priests and wizards 12:26 because you will always gain at least 1 max HP 12:27 oh, you'd have to change that 12:27 this is the main drawback 12:27 hmm I think this is about all I will do for devnull, maybe 12:27 well, 14 -> 25 con is around the same difference, and it takes you from around 67 to 150 at level 10 iirc 12:27 s/drawback/issue/ 12:27 *77 to 150 12:27 ideally max HP would be a function of a) current con, b) current level, c) bonuses from !oFH, nurses, etc. 12:27 [nh4] Patrick (Uirusu3301) (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 8470 points, T:689, escaped 12:27 what a weird time to escape 12:27 conduct break? 12:28 !help 12:28 ais523: https://www.hardfought.org/nethack 12:28 !lastgame 12:28 FIQ: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/U/Uirusu3301/nethack4/dumplog/2017-11-20%2017%3A27%3A28%2C%20Patrick-Bar-Hum-Mal-Cha%2C%20escaped.txt 12:28 ugh, I forgot it'd be a link to a website 12:28 I'm at work and can't easily check 12:28 !lastgame aosdict 12:28 rikersan: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/aosdict/nhdev/dumplog/1509902036.nhdev.txt 12:28 (I'm going to camp out at work tonight because the water supply to the house is under maintenance, and living without water is hard) 12:29 well what did you expect :P 12:29 rather than a website link I mean 12:29 aosdict: grats on the most recent ascension 12:29 FIQ: I forgot to expect anything 12:30 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 892 points, 1559 turns, killed by an alchemic blast, while frozen by a potion on hdf-eu 12:30 like, if I'd thought about it at all I would have realised the mistake in my plan 12:30 but I didn't 12:30 ffs 12:30 always with the helplessness reasons messing things up 12:30 FIQ: accidental !oPara in inventory? 12:30 also, I'm not sure 12:30 also that seems like too many turns for that death 12:30 but I think 3.6.x, or at least the devnull 3.6.0 version, is doing weird things with deaths 12:30 ais523: I was trying for another death 12:30 3.6.0 is known to be broken in terms of while-helpless 12:31 FIQ: ah, which one? 12:31 (that seems like an unlikely death to get by mistake) 12:31 I wanted to dig up a player corpse 12:31 TROPHY: FIQ now holds the Most Unique Deaths 12:31 so I could die to it 12:31 hmm 12:31 with undead turning 12:31 apparently that death was unique, somehow? 12:31 still not sure how you end up getting alchemic blast trying to dig up a corpse though 12:31 well 12:31 there was 2 graves 12:32 I had a wand of undead turning 12:32 I tried to dig up player monsters 12:32 they both had mummies 12:32 so I took another death instead 12:32 oh, I see 12:32 apparently "killed by an alchemic blast" was still matched 12:32 despite the while helpless thing 12:33 I didn't expect it to 12:33 åhmm 12:33 OrderOfTheCockatrice has 104.5 points now 12:33 nice 12:35 got a major lead over the last few days 12:40 [6:39 PM] mtf: RFE: Demon lords can only be bribed with artifacts 12:40 this is an interesting idea 12:45 I like when y'all add uses for good-but-disappointing items. a use for extra BoH, extra AoR, etc. get too many artifacts? that's fine, you can bribe demon lords :D 12:45 at least FIQHack made artiwishing not rely on RNG giving you shitty artifacts as a troll 12:45 and dNetHack 12:46 "oh no, Ogresmasher..." 12:46 ais523: Btw -- retroactive Con buffs Ogresmasher 12:46 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:46 Still rather mediocre though, unless you do something like what dNetHack did 12:46 I don'nt see buffing Ogresmasher as a problem :-P 12:46 fiq: dnethack makes shitty RNG artifacts considerably less likely IMO 12:46 (where Ogresmasher confers 25 constitution when in the alternate weapon slot too) 12:46 most of them are pretty useful 12:47 ais523: one thing dnethack does, which is an interesting idea, is to allow the less useful banes to be held as secondary weapon when twoweaponing 12:48 not sure if twoweaponing needs any buffs though 12:48 (if anything it needs nerfs...) 12:49 FIQ: OK, so I just did this, in some test git repositories: 12:49 wrong channel? 12:49 err, yes 12:54 -!- dave__ has joined #hardfought 12:56 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 12:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 13:03 winny: thanks! glad I could bring us into fourth place 13:03 :) 13:03 ur the mvp! 13:03 yes, we are doing quite well considering the other three teams are ootc, splat and poo 13:03 i was wondering about your gear, though 13:04 ASCENDED: wooble (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1538506 points, 35222 turns, ascended on hardfought 13:04 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/w/wooble/dn36/dumplog/1510844058.dn36.txt 13:04 brilliance? ur not spellcasting as tourist, no? 13:04 what else should I have had? 13:04 telepathy 13:04 I didn't spellcast at all in the Planes, I guess. 13:04 FIQ: PYEC 13:04 oh 13:04 um 13:04 i've read some people prefer elven helmet for the enchant 13:04 PYEC? 13:04 elven helmet :P 13:04 eh, 2 points of AC, meh 13:05 I did have more scrolls of enchant armor than I knew what to do with 13:05 TROPHY: wooble just earned the Double Top and Double Top (with bells on!) 13:05 it was a joke 13:05 :) 13:05 i see, was just curious 13:10 nice, wooble. and aosdict. where's NotTheOracle\dnt 's announcement for aosdict? 13:10 shpingrlde: it announced a while back 13:10 back up a bit 13:10 getting bells and not-bells at the same time is cool 13:10 -!- Jendic has joined #hardfought 13:11 I suppose, though I was really expecting Double Top bells and forgot my deaths in between 13:17 -!- rikersan has quit [] 13:19 winny: spellcasting is perfectly possble as tourist, I ascended a tourist who was as good a spellcaster as the average orc wizard 13:19 that's good to know 13:20 I'm also not sure if a sufficiently enchanted helm of brilliance will protect from death by brainlessness. 13:21 basically anything is possible for a tourist, eventually 13:25 okay so my int is now 3 + 4 from helm of brilliance 13:25 you will die 13:25 on next hit 13:25 Your last thought fades away. 13:25 I guess the helm doesn't help. 13:25 use a dunce cap 13:29 aosdict: I hope that was wizmode :-P 13:29 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:29 yes 13:32 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 60 points, 75 turns, killed by a kitten on hardfought 13:33 DIED: wooble (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 116 points, 22 turns, crunched in the head by an iron ball on hardfought 13:36 DIED: wooble (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 53 turns, choked on a pear on hardfought 13:40 DIED: wooble (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Cha), 264 points, 141 turns, killed by a Keystone Kop on hardfought 13:42 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 13:43 DIED: wooble (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 6399 points, 249 turns, poisoned by an orcish arrow on hardfought 13:47 DIED: wooble (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 1169 points, 457 turns, petrified by a cockatrice on hardfought 13:51 [dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non) wished for "blessed fireproof greased +2 atma weapon", on T:15166 13:58 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 807 points, 1068 turns, killed by an exploding wand on hardfought 13:59 DIED: wooble (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 101 points, 114 turns, killed by a water demon on hardfought 14:00 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 0 points, 12 turns, killed by the wrath of Thoth on hardfought 14:04 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 347 points, 750 turns, killed by a djinni on hardfought 14:08 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 392 points, 916 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hardfought 14:10 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 14:10 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 456 points, 473 turns, killed by an iguana on hardfought 14:14 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 437 points, 1320 turns, killed by a water elemental on hardfought 14:22 DIED: bleeko (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 2672 points, 3215 turns, killed by a fire ant on hardfought 14:23 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 16 points, 134 turns, killed by the wrath of Thoth on hardfought 14:33 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 138 points, 140 turns, killed by a black pudding on hardfought 14:33 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 9 points, 53 turns, killed by a newt on hardfought 14:34 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 14:34 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 16 points, 148 turns, killed by a newt on hardfought 14:35 Did K2 updated fiqhack today? 14:36 I saw, him answered me in #nethack, but he said about yesterday changes 14:37 didnt realize there was anything for today 14:37 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-11-20 12:06 EST: pushed fixes 14:37 hah 14:37 compiling 14:37 :D 14:37 Beholder just in time 14:38 K2: why this process isnt automatic? 14:38 FIQhack updated 14:38 nice! 14:39 FIQ pushes updates enough times, i could technically start a cronjob to just do it daily 14:39 however 14:39 imo its good practice to do it manually 14:39 sometimes a patch doesnt go as planned 14:39 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 14:39 best to be on hand in case it doesnt 14:40 Hm. Okay, I understand. Thx for cronjob 14:40 sure :) 14:40 When it updates? 14:42 no I think you misunderstood 14:42 i'll update FIQhack manually 14:42 aah 14:42 "could" 14:42 didnt noticed 14:42 ;) 14:42 sry 14:43 no prob 14:47 -!- oh6_ has joined #hardfought 14:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6_] by ChanServ 14:47 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 15:00 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 3232 points, 3750 turns, killed by a mumak on hardfought 15:10 -!- Porkman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:10 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 15:12 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 15:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 15:26 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 15:26 -!- StinkyGreene has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:28 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 15:34 -!- Webmant has joined #hardfought 15:44 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 15:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 15:45 !dc 19 15:45 oops 15:55 [fh] Satochi IX (puck) (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of magical breathing", on T:34022 16:05 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 277 points, 538 turns, fell into a pit on hdf-eu 16:13 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 624 points, 821 turns, killed by an imp on hdf-eu 16:14 -!- oh6 has quit [Disconnected by services] 16:14 -!- oh6_ is now known as oh6 16:28 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 16:32 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 16:33 -!- rikersan has quit [Client Quit] 16:57 DIED: spontiff (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 450 points, 28463 turns, killed by an ice vortex, while praying on hdf-eu 16:57 DIED: fatty (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 4 points, 14 turns, choked on a sprig of wolfsbane on hardfought 16:58 -!- spontiff has quit [] 17:03 DIED: fatty (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 671 points, 846 turns, choked on a food ration on hardfought 17:04 DIED: noims (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 9257 points, 5930 turns, killed by a fire ant on hdf-eu 17:04 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:04 so Vlad just committed suicide with a wand of fire 17:05 DIED: fatty (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 4 points, 68 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought 17:05 DIED: fatty (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 17 turns, choked on a candy bar on hardfought 17:06 quite common, given the layout of his tower 17:06 I'd heard he was quite easy, but damn 17:07 TROPHY: fatty now holds the Most Unique Deaths 17:07 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 4 points, 26 turns, killed by overexertion, while praying on hardfought 17:07 literally cannot remember the last time I've seen a boss splat himself in any game 17:07 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 15 turns, killed by the wrath of Anhur on hardfought 17:09 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 47 points, 27 turns, caught himself in his own ball of lightning on hardfought 17:09 ais523, jonadab, FIQ: my rm.h changes to accommodate iron doors: https://pastebin.com/7XAA31pf. If I'm doing something crazy, let me know. 17:10 aosdict: put extra parens around macro arguments like lock 17:11 apart from that it looks sane? 17:11 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 18 turns, killed by a water elemental of Thoth, while praying on hardfought 17:12 -!- katung has joined #hardfought 17:12 right 17:12 those were new 17:13 did decide to go the way of assuming a struct rm *, not a doormask itself 17:13 because of the oddities when using it as an lvalue 17:13 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 50 points, 93 turns, dragged downstairs by an iron ball on hardfought 17:14 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 24 turns, killed by a scroll of earth on hardfought 17:15 originally I was keeping in stuff like door->doorstate = D_BROKEN 17:16 but that would delete its iron-ness 17:16 DIED: fatty (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 0 points, 21 turns, killed by a couatl of Quetzalcoatl on hardfought 17:17 aosdict: Does expert wand of locking turn any doorway into a locked iron door? 17:18 jonadab: this is NH3. No expert locking. 17:18 and if it did exist, I imagine it would keep the door whatever its base type was. 17:19 DIED: fatty (Arc-Hum-Mal-Law), 8 points, 35 turns, crunched in the head by an iron ball on hardfought 17:22 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 9 points, 279 turns, killed by a burning scroll on hardfought 17:26 -!- Webmant has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:26 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:27 DIED: noims (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 1886 points, 1973 turns, killed by a bolt of fire on hdf-eu 17:27 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 17:28 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 17:29 DIED: noims (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 255 points, 295 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 17:31 -!- Adeon_ has joined #hardfought 17:31 -!- Adeon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:39 DIED: noims (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 797 points, 699 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 17:42 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 104 points, 161 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion on hardfought 17:42 -!- Adeon_ is now known as Adeon 17:42 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 48 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hardfought 17:44 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 17:46 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:47 ais523: did you seriously get complaintts for your RA fix 17:47 like 17:47 how 17:47 FIQ: at least one other devteam user believes that it's exploitable, in much the same way as vampire dancing and pudding farming 17:47 but seem to have a low bar for exploit effects 17:47 really low then... 17:48 basically you get a little bit more max HP 17:48 oh no the horr 17:48 or 17:48 and pw 17:48 not even exploitable 17:48 just as if you had more from the getgo 17:48 like 17:48 it's easier to get it from FH 17:48 much easier 17:49 ASCENDED: Tariru (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 1330676 points, 36630 turns, ascended on hdf-eu 17:49 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tariru/dn36/dumplog/1511106369.dn36.txt 17:49 pw is less certain, but pw gain is a huge crapshoot anyway since it's completely random rnd(wis/w) 17:49 err rnd(wis/2) 17:49 simple, just make HP and Pw a function of (race + role modifiers scaled to level) + (current Con/Wis scaled to level) + (plus/minus from other sources) 17:56 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 18:03 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 56854 points, 21876 turns, petrified by trying to tin a cockatrice without gloves on hdf-eu 18:08 DIED: Tariru (Pri-Hum-Fem-Law), 520 points, 1372 turns, killed by a coyote on hdf-eu 18:11 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:20 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 18:21 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 3843 points, 3205 turns, killed by a djinni on hardfought 18:22 magic lamp gone wrong? 18:22 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:23 -!- Jendic has quit [Quit: *poof*] 18:23 take a wild guess 18:23 [nh4] shinto (Uirusu3301) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 5588 points, T:491, killed by a goblin 18:23 go ahead 18:24 bones file of somebody who was attempting extinctionist? 18:24 gnome king quaffed smoky potion and got hostile djinni 18:25 probably the former ^^ 18:25 bout to hit dat asstral. 18:26 good luck! 18:26 !whereis bugpowder 18:26 rikersan: bugpowder is not currently playing. 18:27 i am! 18:27 west coast serve 18:27 what's that ip? 18:28 -!- puck1 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0-dev] 18:28 Hmm, has anyone died by touching the edge of the universe? 18:28 in this tournament? 18:29 touching the edge of the universe? 18:29 how's that happen 18:29 is that the impossible death message from 3.4.3? 18:30 if so, is it possible in 3.6.0? 18:30 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Source:NetHack_3.6.0/src/dothrow.c#line582 18:30 it appears to be intended to be caused by hurtling off the map, but that isn't actually something that's possible 18:30 I don't think it is possible, actually. 18:30 no-dig non-wall levitation hit 18:30 because the hurtle ends before the map would be left 18:30 rikersan: is there anything nondiggable that isn't a wall, though? 18:31 tree is covered, so are iron bars 18:31 drawbridge? 18:32 can't practically exist unless someone made a level for it 18:32 drawbridges are diggable, I think? 18:32 not diggable 18:32 striking-able 18:32 not diggable 18:32 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 18:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 18:34 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:35 nope, that counts as a wall 18:38 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 18:41 [nh4] niggerilla (Uirusu3301) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:139, killed by a bolt of cold 18:46 DIED: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 735 points, 1726 turns, killed by a small mimic on hdf-eu 18:47 Ah. So doors use the trapped bit for warnings. Fun. 18:48 Don't think I'll change that, but that's a pretty evil quirk :D 18:50 though if I left it exactly as is... "Hey, stop picking that lock!" and the door transforms into an iron door. 18:51 bonus poitns if you add a permalocked door 18:51 which uses the trap bit instead 18:52 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 18:54 what is the point of having an unopenable door 18:59 it's a real fake door 18:59 Adeon: Message from jonadab at 2017-10-18 17:42 EST: Pinobot seems not to know about hallucinatory monsters :-( 19:07 YAY 19:11 ASCENDED: Bugpowder (Val-Dwa-Mal-Law), 3320070 points, 42706 turns, ascended on altorg 19:11 https://e6.alt.org/userdata/B/Bugpowder/dn36/dumplog/1509778197.dn36.txt 19:11 congrats! 19:12 TROPHY: Bugpowder just earned the Dilithium Star 19:12 Planes were super easy. Valk is too easy 19:12 First 3.6.0 and first on a terminal not an iPhone tho. 19:13 Now I gotta be careful on the next game! 19:18 DIED: jmcunx (Hea-Hum-Mal-Neu), 563 points, 2967 turns, died of starvation, while fainted from lack of food on hardfought 19:18 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 19:28 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 19:29 -!- dave__ has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:37 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:39 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:40 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 19:45 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! Delraven completed the Waldo challenge. 20:06 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 20:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 20:09 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:20 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! noims completed the Joust challenge. 20:22 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 20:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6] by ChanServ 20:25 can waldo be a hostile monster 20:29 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 20:33 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 20:36 -!- Grassy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:37 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 20:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 20:38 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 20:39 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 20:42 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 20:46 NetHack 4 updated 20:48 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 20:49 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:52 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:52 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 20:53 DIED: winny (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 19227 points, 10382 turns, killed by a troll on hardfought 20:55 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 20:55 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 20:56 -!- elenmirie\splat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:57 -!- elenmirie\splat has joined #hardfought 20:59 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:01 winny: yes 21:02 you still have to #chat him 21:02 so really i should farlook every @ 21:05 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 21:09 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:10 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 17 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought 21:14 -!- Kontroll1r has joined #hardfought 21:17 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:21 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1159 points, 1666 turns, killed by an arrow on hardfought 21:22 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 53 points, 40 turns, killed by a kobold on hardfought 21:24 -!- Porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:25 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 21:29 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:43 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 21:44 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 21:49 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:55 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 21:56 [nd] Menche (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 326 points, T:1249, killed by a small mimic 21:56 DIED: tilia (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 9558 points, 9092 turns, killed by a pyrolisk on hardfought 21:56 ASCENDED: Luxidream (Kni-Hum-Mal-Cha), 1062749 points, 45447 turns, ascended on hardfought 21:57 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/dn36/dumplog/1511153324.dn36.txt 21:58 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 6256 points, 4966 turns, killed by a barrow wight on hardfought 21:59 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:04 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 266 points, 170 turns, killed by a gecko on hardfought 22:05 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 104 points, 170 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 22:05 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 4 points, 39 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought 22:07 DIED: Leggman (Arc-Hum-Mal-Law), 70555 points, 27954 turns, killed by a black pudding on hardfought 22:14 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 22:27 is it possible to see somebody's cfg on hf 22:28 for which variant 22:28 the tournament one 22:28 hmm 22:29 !dn36rc aosdict 22:29 !rc343 aosdict 22:29 !help 22:29 aosdict: https://www.hardfought.org/nethack 22:29 !commands 22:29 aosdict: available commands are !help !ping !time !pom !hello !booze !beer !potion !tea !coffee !whiskey !vodka !rum !tequila !scotch !goat !lotg !d(1-1000) !(1-50)d(1-1000) !8ball !rng !role !race !variant !tell !source !lastgame !lastasc !asc !streak !rcedit !scores !sb !setmintc !whereis !players !who !commands 22:32 DIED: tilia (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 6585 points, 5682 turns, killed by a tiger on hardfought 22:33 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:36 !booze 22:36 * Beholder pours winny a barrel of booze, replicated by demogorgon at -7 degrees Celsius. 22:42 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Disconnected] 22:44 [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Tou Inc Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:23190 22:48 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:53 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 23:01 oh6: i was wondering if i could see your cfg ur using for the tournament 23:01 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 23:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 23:04 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:10 winny: can't you rummage around in the userdata folder for it 23:15 what's served by the webserver? i didn't consider that 23:22 !rc 23:22 Beholder I know you have rc links somewhere. Stop hiding them. 23:23 here https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/dn36/oh6.dn36rc 23:26 thanks aosdict :) 23:28 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 23:31 DIED: mtf (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 1967 points, 4050 turns, killed by a wolf on hardfought 23:34 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! inari accepted the Pool challenge. 23:46 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 23:46 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 23:47 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]