00:04 -!- earenndil has joined #hardfought 00:06 -!- Porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:06 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 00:17 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 00:19 DIED: aoei (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1355 points, 896 turns, killed by a rope golem on hdf-eu 00:19 [slex] kenanbit (Ele Tro Mal Law) killed Dorothea, on T:8947 00:23 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 00:25 -!- fatty_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:26 -!- fatty has joined #hardfought 00:33 DIED: aoei (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1156 points, 675 turns, killed by a water demon on hdf-eu 00:41 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 00:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 00:41 -!- elenmirie is now known as elenmirie\splat 00:43 -!- Jendic has quit [Quit: *poof*] 00:46 DIED: fatty (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 2893 points, 4442 turns, killed by Juiblex on hardfought 00:49 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 48 points, 1047 turns, killed by a system shock on hardfought 00:50 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 8 points, 950 turns, died of starvation, while fainted from lack of food on hardfought 00:52 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 22 points, 162 turns, killed by bumping into a boulder, while moving through the air on hardfought 01:01 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1063 points, 1645 turns, killed by a killer bee, while praying on hardfought 01:10 DIED: aoei (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3654 points, 1960 turns, killed by an ape on hdf-eu 01:24 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 01:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 01:25 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:28 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:28 -!- stenno is now known as Guest51765 01:29 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 01:33 -!- Guest51765 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:46 -!- notzmv has quit [Quit: slep] 01:50 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:55 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 987 points, 2891 turns, killed by a gnome, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 02:00 [fh] Petrus III (puck) (Pri Hum Mal Law), 11455 points, T:1017, killed by a fox 02:03 [fh] Johny (puck) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 6440 points, T:368, killed by a sewer rat 02:21 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Disconnected] 02:23 ASCENDED: jonathanhanes (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 2286492 points, 51666 turns, ascended on hardfought 02:23 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jonathanhanes/dn36/dumplog/1510196542.dn36.txt 02:26 !rng knight | valk | sammy 02:26 Jonathanhanes: sammy 02:27 [fh] Johny II (puck) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 27908 points, T:2954, zombified by an orc zombie 02:35 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 02:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 02:36 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 2180 points, 2097 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hdf-eu 02:36 -!- puck1 has joined #hardfought 02:36 [fh] Johny III (puck) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 7830 points, T:570, killed by a grid bug 02:41 DIED: ab5ni (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 14218 points, 7816 turns, petrified by a chickatrice corpse on hardfought 02:44 DIED: jonathanhanes (Sam-Hum-Fem-Law), 2723 points, 2462 turns, killed by a soldier ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 02:47 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 38075 points, 25322 turns, petrified by a cockatrice on altorg 02:48 TROPHY: buffy just earned the Lead Star 02:49 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:50 -!- stenno is now known as Guest99240 03:11 [fh] Johny IV (puck) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 28501 points, T:2863, killed by a giant ant 03:14 -!- puck1 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0-dev] 03:15 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1684 points, 2469 turns, killed by a killer bee on hdf-eu 03:15 !rng orb | mirror 03:15 Jonathanhanes: mirror 03:30 mirrors are much lighter and just as shiny? 03:32 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 03:34 DIED: larry (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 12236 points, 12088 turns, killed by a troll on hardfought 03:37 DIED: kupopo (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1940 points, 1849 turns, killed by a rothe on hardfought 03:38 -!- deadnoob has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:43 DIED: kupopo (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 324 points, 616 turns, killed by a werejackal on hardfought 03:54 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 683 points, 1661 turns, killed by a kitten on hdf-eu 03:59 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 193 points, 581 turns, killed by a large mimic on hdf-eu 04:11 yah but no 1/2 spell damage 04:12 and not as many gains from carrying around a heavy piece of glass 04:12 and no levelport 04:34 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1977 points, 1833 turns, killed by a falling rock on hdf-eu 04:42 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1668 points, 1217 turns, killed by a gray ooze on hdf-eu 04:44 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 04:51 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 384 points, 1078 turns, killed by a giant bat on hdf-eu 04:52 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 176 points, 196 turns, fell into a pit on hdf-eu 05:00 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1119 points, 843 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu 05:27 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 805 points, 1251 turns, killed by a giant bat, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 05:32 -!- dave__ has joined #hardfought 05:36 -!- katung has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:37 DIED: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 390 points, 1425 turns, killed by a newt on hdf-eu 05:49 DIED: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 1039 points, 1620 turns, killed by an iguana, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 05:56 -!- Kontroller is now known as Kontroller\unfoo 06:21 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:26 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:26 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 06:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 06:28 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:17 DIED: spontiff (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 650 points, 36442 turns, killed by a blast of fire on hdf-eu 07:23 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3091 points, 3741 turns, killed by a panther on hdf-eu 07:23 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 07:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 07:27 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 56.0.1/20171002220106]] 07:28 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:38 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 07:38 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 07:48 DIED: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 491 points, 1152 turns, killed by a gecko, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 07:56 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4659 points, 2270 turns, killed by a horse on hdf-eu 08:08 [fh] Satochi IX (puck) (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the ghost of TKirby, the former Conjurer, on T:4187 08:10 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 08:12 DIED: spontiff (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 322 points, 3215 turns, killed by a garter snake, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 08:12 !tell bhaak "One thing I found out is that if a shopkeep has no money, he'll do this partial ID for anything dropped in his shop for free." is this a bug? regarding tourist price ID in un 08:12 Will do, FIQ! 08:12 -!- spontiff has quit [] 08:31 DIED: Rex (Rog-Hum-Fem-Cha), 695 points, 570 turns, killed by a kitten on hdf-eu 08:35 DIED: Rex (Rog-Hum-Fem-Cha), 356 points, 567 turns, killed by an arrow on hdf-eu 08:52 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1135 points, 3781 turns, killed by a bolt of fire on hdf-eu 08:54 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 08:55 DIED: Rex (Rog-Hum-Fem-Cha), 1634 points, 2508 turns, killed by a magic missile on hdf-eu 08:57 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 09:00 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 09:01 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1729 points, 2281 turns, killed by a rothe on hdf-eu 09:04 DIED: eitkrog (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 6199 points, 5050 turns, killed by a wolf on hardfought 09:05 ASCENDED: Tariru (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 108914 points, 71305 turns, ascended on hdf-eu 09:05 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tariru/dn36/dumplog/1510693804.dn36.txt 09:05 DIED: Rex (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 530 points, 879 turns, killed by a giant rat on hdf-eu 09:06 TROPHY: Tariru now holds the Lowest Scored Ascension 09:06 TROPHY: Tariru just earned the Full Monty 09:15 nice! 09:16 tariru's in #NetHack , seemingly afk tho 09:16 good time to catch a deep breath and rub one's eyes maybe 09:16 He's talking in #devnull_nethack 09:16 oh right, that room, drat 09:16 THE BOT ROOM 09:17 got an irc log? 09:18 Of that channel? Not sure. 09:35 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:47 DIED: winny (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 936 points, 2087 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 09:52 [dnh] rikersan (Elf-Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:6708 10:01 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 494 points, 834 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion on hdf-eu 10:02 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 10:07 DIED: winny (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 407 points, 1094 turns, killed by a gnome on hardfought 10:13 DIED: Eleven (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 2340 points, 5444 turns, killed by a giant ant on hardfought 10:17 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3035 points, 3567 turns, killed by a lizard on hardfought 10:19 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2130 points, 2886 turns, killed by a giant beetle on hdf-eu 10:24 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 10:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 10:26 DIED: aoei (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 832 points, 1691 turns, killed by Mr. Akalapi, the shopkeeper on hdf-eu 10:26 DIED: spontiff (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 2077 points, 2533 turns, killed by a hill orc on hdf-eu 10:30 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 672 points, 1030 turns, killed by a red naga hatchling on hdf-eu 10:38 DIED: Rex (Mon-Hum-Fem-Neu), 13384 points, 5515 turns, killed by an ogre lord on hdf-eu 10:43 DIED: aoei (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 364 points, 379 turns, killed by Ms. Wonotobo, the shopkeeper on hdf-eu 10:54 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! arnibald accepted the Dig-Dug challenge. 10:59 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 10:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 11:00 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1718 points, 1950 turns, killed by a watchman on hdf-eu 11:03 DIED: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 402 points, 1519 turns, killed by a manes, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 11:06 -!- Guest99240 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:07 DIED: aoei (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 5070 points, 923 turns, killed by a rabid rat on hdf-eu 11:07 trying and failing 11:20 [dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof greased magic marker", on T:42753 11:20 [dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof greased +3 gauntlets of spell power", on T:42754 11:20 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 11:20 -!- stenno is now known as Guest65865 11:21 DIED: davez (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 150178 points, 28400 turns, killed by an invisible Angel on hdf-eu 11:26 ASCENDED: sluggoman (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 5034788 points, 69937 turns, ascended on hardfought 11:26 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/sluggoman/dn36/dumplog/1509864530.dn36.txt 11:28 TROPHY: sluggoman just earned the Birdie (with bells on!) and Birdie 11:37 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:38 DIED: khamul (Bar-Hum-Mal-Cha), 163192 points, 19770 turns, killed by an ettin on hdf-eu 11:39 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 11:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 11:40 DIED: aoei (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3228 points, 1237 turns, killed by a gargoyle on hdf-eu 11:42 [dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof greased +3 grandmaster's robe", on T:43462 11:52 DIED: aoei (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1405 points, 774 turns, killed by a raven on hdf-eu 11:52 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 8955 points, 5464 turns, killed by an ape on hardfought 11:55 [dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) killed the Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:44492 11:57 [dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:44667 11:59 [dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof greased +3 stormhelm", on T:44745 12:00 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1965 points, 4310 turns, killed by a centipede on hdf-eu 12:00 DIED: Eleven (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 4993 points, 6612 turns, killed by a fire ant on hardfought 12:02 oooooh 12:05 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 377 points, 312 turns, killed by an iguana on hdf-eu 12:05 ASCENDED: squolly (Arc-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2388942 points, 48288 turns, ascended on hardfought 12:05 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/squolly/dn36/dumplog/1510767710.dn36.txt 12:05 [dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof greased +3 quicksilver", on T:46029 12:06 TROPHY: squolly now holds the Highest Scored Archeologist 12:06 TROPHY: squolly just earned the Dilithium Star 12:08 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! jonathanhanes completed the Pac-Man challenge. 12:12 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 12:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 12:13 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:15 DIED: Leggman (Bar-Hum-Mal-Neu), 7510 points, 7714 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf, while praying on hardfought 12:17 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1496 points, 2067 turns, killed by a hill orc, while fainted from lack of food on hardfought 12:18 brilliant game 12:19 6 artiwishes, 6 artifacts 12:20 DIED: aoei (Hea-Hum-Fem-Neu), 335 points, 1193 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 12:23 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! aoei accepted the Grue challenge. 12:30 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 389 points, 1443 turns, killed by a giant bat on altorg 12:32 DIED: aoei (Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha), 480 points, 151 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 12:38 DIED: aoei (Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha), 344 points, 482 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hdf-eu 12:38 DIED: jmcunx (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 484 points, 2888 turns, killed by an orc zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 12:38 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:39 -!- Grassy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:41 hey, so if I get orctown as orc barb will i jus have a bunch of peacefuls? 12:42 [dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non), 1572 points, T:1569, killed by a dwarf 12:43 DIED: aoei (Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha), 784 points, 459 turns, eaten by a Grue on hdf-eu 12:43 shit 12:44 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 22 points, 131 turns, killed by a fox on hardfought 12:46 DIED: Leggman (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 482 points, 765 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 12:48 DIED: Leggman (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 80 points, 32 turns, killed by a carnivorous bag on hardfought 12:48 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 12:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 12:48 [dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non), 124 points, T:462, killed by shredding of the soul 12:48 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 12:52 DIED: khamul (Bar-Hum-Mal-Cha), 722 points, 1266 turns, killed by a little dog on hdf-eu 12:52 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 12:52 DIED: Webmant (Cav-Gno-Fem-Neu), 2060 points, 3444 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 12:53 Beholder: messages? 13:03 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2164 points, 2035 turns, killed by a watchman on hdf-eu 13:03 DIED: Webmant (Cav-Gno-Fem-Neu), 894 points, 1299 turns, killed by a paper golem on hardfought 13:04 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:04 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 13:04 -!- ais523 has quit [Changing host] 13:04 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 13:05 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2505 points, 6298 turns, killed by a giant ant, while sleeping on hdf-eu 13:06 DIED: Webmant (Cav-Gno-Fem-Neu), 327 points, 548 turns, killed by a hobbit on hardfought 13:09 DIED: Webmant (Cav-Gno-Fem-Neu), 364 points, 442 turns, killed by a little dog called Slasher on hardfought 13:11 -!- notzmv has joined #hardfought 13:13 DIED: aoei (Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha), 2425 points, 1106 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hdf-eu 13:13 ASCENDED: Tangles (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1416442 points, 14382 turns, ascended on hdf-au 13:13 https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/dn36/dumplog/1510868437.dn36.txt 13:13 congrats, Tangles! 13:13 Thanks :) 13:13 gz :) 13:14 TROPHY: Tangles now holds the Lowest Turn-count Ascension 13:14 TROPHY: Tangles just earned the Birdie (with bells on!) 13:14 hmm, nobody seriously competing for minimum turns this year? 13:15 ais523: Yes. I am. I'm just not very good at it apparently :P 13:15 ais523, I've been sort of trying 13:15 ais523: nht did a few attempts I think 13:16 -!- aeoi is now known as aoei\splat 13:16 in the end *I* ended up with the starting kit nht kept trying for lol 13:16 ais523, but not doing so well 13:16 and then didn't try going for minturns anyway because I wanted to just ascend... splatted on astral :P 13:16 FIQ, which starting kit was that+ 13:17 I found a WoW on about T:550 one game, then splatted. 13:17 aoei\splat: within the first level of mines, I had 13:17 =oPC, /oPoly, any other goodies 13:17 speed boots, wand of polymorph, amulet of unchanging, ring of polymorph, ring of polymorph control 13:17 nice 13:17 I decided to go polyselfed for most of that game for fun 13:17 I forgot that polyself doesn't exercise attributes though 13:17 so my max HP was absolutely disgusting 13:18 coupled with a 3.6.0 change where you can't nom Rider brains anymore is why I lost so easily on Astral 13:18 -!- Jendic has joined #hardfought 13:18 also I ended up using xorn for my "digging" needs 13:18 because digdug was lost after an awful spawn 13:19 had to polyself into a xorn to deal with Earth :P 13:19 aoei\splat: on astral I had like 80 max HP at XL19. Without Death intervention 13:20 I haven't seen worse 13:20 I think I've ascended with less in 3.4.3 13:20 lmao 13:20 Rider displacement is rough with that max HP 13:20 You suddenly yearn for Cleveland. 13:21 Magic trap effect. 13:21 if you raise your base form HP, it's lost when you poly? 13:21 monster form and player form HP are independent 13:21 shpingrlde: Polyself wasn't directly the reason, only indirectly in that it didn't allow me to exercise my constitution 13:21 which I realized far too late 13:21 ah 13:21 I had like 9 13:22 oslt 13:22 I'm surprised you never quaffed blessed healypots or nurse danced 13:22 hmm, this actually implies a lot about how stat exercise contributes to game balance 13:22 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 13:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 13:22 I would have if I realized how crappy my max HP was before I started pestering the wizard :P 13:23 ais523: there is a reason I want to make constitution/wisdom changes apply their max HP/max Pw modifiers retroactively 13:24 dnh, the other Best Nethack, does it :D 13:24 yes, I suggested it 13:24 it made things so much nicer 13:24 ugh, is time.gov down? 13:24 !pom 13:24 shpingrlde: The moon is new for 4 more days. 13:24 ais523: no 13:25 trying to build, but getting a timestamp conflict because my laptop and nethack4.org disagree as to what time it is 13:25 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:25 :25 13:25 major reason I haven't done it in FIQHack is that I'm pondering the best way to do it codewise 13:25 OK, at least my laptop agrees with shpingrlde's computer 13:26 I think what I will do is to add a seperate "last attributes" thingy, to ensure that in no circumstances is there a hobug 13:26 and try to refresh it appropriately, and whenever it isn't, impossible + do it at endturn 13:26 hmm, nethack4.org isn't running any sort of NTP, no wonder it drifted 13:26 either that 13:26 or make maxhp(foo) 13:27 and make the actual "max hp" fields be pre-stat modifiers 13:28 18 Nov 19:27:50 ntpdate[23322]: step time server 163.172.25.19 offset 63.722420 sec 13:28 OK, nobody do anything time-sensitive on nethack4.org for 63.7 seconds :-P 13:28 * FIQ starts and quits a lot of games 13:28 lmao 13:29 ais523: isn't there applications or similar to allow a gradual correction for stuff like this? 13:29 actually now I'm really curious as to whether that time is logged using the old time base or the new one? 13:29 FIQ: yes, it's ntpdate 13:29 but if it detects the clock is really badly wrong it does the adjustment all at once by default 13:29 ah 13:29 the gradual correction is for if it's almost right 13:29 right 13:29 you can ask it to do a gradual correction even for a badly wrong clock but it takes ages 13:30 I'm not sure if I would regard a minute as badly wrong 13:30 it is on computer timescales 13:32 ais523: I've been using Interhack for 3.6.0 devnull to get my statuscolors back 13:32 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1410 points, 2843 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hardfought 13:32 it has some... interesting features 13:32 heh 13:33 worked much better for 3.6.0 than I thought it would do, at least 13:33 I didn't realise there /was/ a 3.6 version of interhack 13:33 there isn't 13:33 I am using the 3.4.3 one 13:33 it works fine 13:33 right 13:33 interhack 1 is mostly regex-based 13:33 right 13:33 was there an interhack 2 13:33 so it's likely to be fairly tolerant of version changes 13:33 yes, also an interhack 3, but neither got very far 13:33 I know interhack 3 wanted to wait for TAEB to be done 13:34 he's using the idea I had for JNH - use the interhack UI for shitty-ui variants of nethack, even if it's not a perfect fit. except, like always, he's got it working well whereas I had trouble and gave up :D 13:34 I know the interhack I use has at least some state 13:34 because it has stuff like #view 1 13:34 allthough I had to tinker with several of the plugins to allow for altmeta to work properly 13:34 [dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non), 19625 points, T:3786, killed by a hezrou of Moloch 13:35 (it didn't like the fact that several plugins did \e#name) 13:35 !who 13:35 shpingrlde: Jendic [dn36] Eleven [dn36] jonathanhanes [dn36] Leggman [dn36] arnibald [dn36] hothraxxa [dn36] eitbo [dn36] porkman [dnh] porkmantwo [dnh] Nobbs [nh4] 13:37 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 13:42 DIED: fatty (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 72615 points, 5568 turns, crushed to death by an exploding drawbridge on hardfought 13:43 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 753 points, 1340 turns, killed by a kitten on hardfought 13:44 shpingrlde: did you at least get Interhack running? 13:45 I mean it's already "running" on my old computer 13:45 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! spontiff completed the Joust challenge. 13:45 I guess since it was pretty easy to set up I should try it on here 13:45 everything's harder on debian tho 13:45 http://sprunge.us/WTCU 13:46 QUIT: spontiff (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 31158 points, 17584 turns, quit on hdf-eu 13:46 there's only 13 days left of bad-nethack and then I can go back to fh/4k/dyna/dnh 13:50 if you don't like it, there's no obligation to play it 13:53 gotta get them points! 13:54 DIED: spontiff (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 69 points, 301 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 13:55 DIED: aoei (Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha), 5579 points, 2785 turns, killed by a gargoyle on hdf-eu 14:00 DIED: Eleven (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 6194 points, 9237 turns, killed by a bolt of cold, while taking off clothes on hardfought 14:00 you shouldn't take your clothes off when it's cold! 14:10 [dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1811 14:12 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 14:12 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: sorry for my connection] 14:13 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 14:18 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 19215 points, 8929 turns, killed by a vampire lord on hdf-eu 14:19 DIED: aoei (Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha), 266 points, 299 turns, killed by a bat on hdf-eu 14:21 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1350 points, 2752 turns, killed by an imp, while praying on hdf-eu 14:22 -!- raisse\splat is now known as to 14:22 -!- to is now known as raisse\splat 14:25 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 234 points, 718 turns, killed by an arrow on hdf-eu 14:25 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 14:26 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 7 points, 173 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hdf-eu 14:32 [dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non), 4466 points, T:2303, quit 14:37 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 506 points, 1350 turns, killed by a poisonous corpse on hdf-eu 14:37 -!- elenmirie\splat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:37 -!- elenmirie\splat has joined #hardfought 14:40 -!- StinkyGreene has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:42 [dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non), 4110 points, T:701, killed by a tengu 14:42 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 184 points, 387 turns, killed by a little dart on hdf-eu 14:42 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 14:45 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 60 points, 189 turns, killed by an electric shock on hdf-eu 14:45 ais523: how would a config UI regarding items look like? 14:46 basically it would be nice to be able eto configure stuff like preferred inventory letters, potential special color, autopickup, from an item list 14:46 but how would it make the most sense to have the UI? 14:48 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4 points, 45 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu 14:48 FIQ: basically the \ menu but with filters for things like blessedness 14:48 and extra entries for things like "unidentified potion" 14:49 right 14:49 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! k2 completed the Waldo challenge. 14:49 that'd be by far the most convenient for quick tweaks to autopickup rules in-game 14:49 so like dcss 14:49 but how would it look like to be configured from outside the game? 14:49 and would also be good for initial configuration 14:49 outside the game, all items show 14:49 as if you'd maxed out formal IDs 14:49 (but there are entries for unidentified entries anyway) 14:49 so something like 14:49 "customize items" 14:49 shpingrlde: it was inspired by DCSS, but DCSS's \ menu is a bit primitive 14:50 -> menu with 100% discovery list 14:50 yep 14:50 [dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:899 14:50 ais523: but how would you configure autopickup exceptions? 14:50 the vast majority of those are just 14:50 DIED: Eleven (Pri-Hum-Fem-Law), 1512 points, 3893 turns, killed by a gray ooze, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 14:50 "pick up this item type, but not this other one" 14:50 but there's valid excuses for exceptions 14:51 for example, maybe I don't want to pickup empty lamps 14:51 FIQ: "discharged" was one of the filters I was planning 14:51 sorry for not giving much detail, I had this all worked out a while back but lost the file somehow 14:51 nice 14:51 oh well 14:51 I have "spellbook of" in my autopickup exceptions to avoid picking up known spellbooks 14:52 ooh, no I didn't 14:52 means I have to read a plain spellbook to trigger "spellbook of blank paper" 14:52 it's in an obscure git branch 14:52 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3563 points, 4743 turns, killed by a hill orc on hardfought 14:52 raisse\splat proves a valid case too 14:52 (one I haven't actually considered myself, I should perhaps add that to my NH3 config) 14:52 but there is a simple solution 14:53 pickup: unidentified/all/none 14:53 or rather 14:53 the branch itself was an aborted attempt at stash search 14:53 flip autopickup on unidentified spellbooks 14:53 which FIQhack now has a different way 14:53 and then disable autopickup on all known ones 14:53 FIQ: look at doc/itemrules.txt on the itemknowledge branch (which I just pushed to the NH4 repo so that you could look at it) 14:53 how did you do it, out of curiousity? 14:53 ok, I will look 14:54 DIED: davez (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 11256 points, 6254 turns, killed by a touch of death on hdf-eu 14:54 I didn't, it's unfinished 14:54 but it looks from the code like I was planning a "knowledge" chain 14:55 FIQHack does that too 14:55 level->memobjlist 14:55 [slex] dolores (Cam Ang Fem Cha), 5210 points, T:3721, killed by a monster (horn horse), while helpless 14:56 and they refer to the main object, if it still exists (and the main object refers to the memory, to easily be able to reference each other) 14:56 looks like I only got as far as categorising weapons (and maybe not even all the weapons)? 14:57 ais523: how can I *truly* check all branches btw? 14:57 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 14:57 [589][fiq@fiq-desktop ~/nethack4ais]$ git branch -v 14:57 * master cb7da80a Fix issues blocking the build 14:57 nitrohack 09e082d0 Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/DanielT/NitroHack 14:57 I tried itemknowledge which worked fine 14:58 but those were the only 2 listed when I tried to check taht 14:58 FIQ: itemknowledge wasn't public so you had no way to check it before I made it public a couple of minutes ago 14:58 (i.e. wasn't actually pushed to the nethack4.org server) 14:58 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 482 points, 772 turns, killed by a mind flayer on hardfought 14:59 yeah I get that 14:59 but I pulled beforehand 14:59 and it said "new branch itemknowledge" 14:59 but git branch -v 14:59 you need to do "git remote update" 14:59 didn't actually list it 14:59 to get a full local copy of remote brancehs 14:59 *branches 14:59 hmm 14:59 I am still only seeing 3 branches (itemknowledge now as well since I checked that out) 14:59 and I think there is more than those (channelization...?) 15:00 no, I deleted channelization earlier today because it's now fully merged into master 15:00 that said, there should be other branches there 15:01 ah 15:01 -r 15:01 does the trick 15:01 it lists all of them 15:02 I am such a moron 15:02 almost got myself splatted twice so far today 15:02 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 304 points, 406 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 15:02 hmm 15:02 every single line almost has the exact same amount of characters in this document 15:03 huh, didn't realize that it took until 3.1.2 before pickup_types 15:04 can't let your guard down for a minute with this game, I love it! 15:06 FIQ: so long as your lines are fairly wide, it's not that hard to do 15:06 sometimes I do it when I'm bored or to show off 15:06 Jendic agreed! 15:06 I'd forgotten I'd done it in that file but it's fairly obvious just by looking at it 15:10 -!- dave__ has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:12 DIED: Eleven (Pri-Hum-Fem-Neu), 560 points, 1641 turns, killed by a purple worm on hardfought 15:12 ais523: ok so it is somewhat obvious as to how to "parse" the rules for the hiearchy in general 15:12 it is less obvious how to handle the "special" categories 15:12 BUC, dangerous, elven, etc 15:13 -!- dave__ has joined #hardfought 15:15 FIQ: the plan was to have a filter 15:15 that showed only those entries, + an ability to set them all at once 15:15 I never wrote a parser, the format of that was invented on the fly 15:16 (this sort of thing is why I don't normally make half-started code public, it can be hard to understand what I was aiming for sometimes) 15:17 DIED: davez (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1466 points, 2069 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu 15:19 ok 15:21 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:22 DIED: Leggman (Bar-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2270 points, 2956 turns, killed by an iron piercer on hardfought 15:35 DIED: eitkrog (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 2412 points, 1593 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hardfought 15:36 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1959 points, 2935 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hardfought 15:37 DIED: davez (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 3058 points, 3067 turns, killed by a wolf on hdf-eu 15:41 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 230 points, 710 turns, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping on hardfought 15:49 [dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non), 21442 points, T:8283, killed by a hell hound pup 15:56 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:01 [dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Center of All, on T:46973 16:04 DIED: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 587 points, 1187 turns, killed by a little dog on hardfought 16:15 QUIT: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 1812 points, 3573 turns, quit on hardfought 16:30 -!- katung has joined #hardfought 16:36 DIED: Eleven (Pri-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1324 points, 4870 turns, killed by a rabid rat on hardfought 16:38 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 16:39 -!- rikersan has quit [Client Quit] 16:50 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 16:52 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 16:56 DIED: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 7814 points, 4640 turns, killed by a watch captain, while helpless on hardfought 16:59 [dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) was given Mirror Brand, on T:48681 17:12 DIED: aoei (Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha), 25979 points, 7191 turns, killed by a sasquatch, while getting stoned on hdf-eu 17:18 we're over 7500 games played now :P 17:33 [dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non), 228 points, T:286, killed by a hobbit 17:34 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 7434 points, 5610 turns, killed by a fire ant on hdf-eu 17:34 I killed a shopkeeper for their many scrolls and then went back to where I id'd my polywand and read this message: 17:34 You read: "?ney say tha k?llirg ? sh?pkeeper br?ngs bad |uck.". 17:35 just luck, I think 17:35 maybe that was the bad luck in question? 17:35 the fact that you got that specific engraving 17:43 yeah, it's just a funny coincidence, especially because the message was generated before I went and killed the shk 17:44 but, the luck penalty doesn't apply to chaotics :o) 17:44 -!- fatty has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:48 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:49 reminds me of when I got "They say that a wand of polymorph will change your game" from e-testing poly once 17:49 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 17:49 hi Chris_ANG 17:50 hello 17:50 Hello Chris_ANG, Welcome to #hardfought 17:50 Chris_ANG: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2017-11-15 04:52 EST: I've managed to make the dungeon have more than 127 levels in slex. There might still be bugs, but saving and loading works alright, as does visiting levels with internal indexes >127. https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/edc145acc3f7a7a237898d1fdd4be1e7b3368c43 - maybe this is interesting for dnethack as well? 17:50 ugh, I got orctown again 17:50 whenever I get orctown 17:50 I #quit 17:50 it's faster 17:50 haha 17:50 [dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1480 17:50 on a previous run I asked the question, if I'm an orc, will orctown be peaceful? turns out not :( 17:51 hardly seems fair 17:51 I'm opposed to orctown but doubt I can do much about it 17:51 maybe if we had a petition 17:51 fortunately I'm quite bashy with my blessed +2 mattock and I have AC:0 17:52 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 29 points, 133 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 17:52 so I think I might be able to handle it, as long as I don't get an orc captain with a wand of fire again 17:52 ais523: keep in mind that while the community seems to generally agree 17:52 DT members, including active ones in here, doesn't 17:53 (bhaak and paxed) 17:53 What's the main problem with orctown? Would it be ok if orctown guaranteed a mines-end variant with shopkeepers? 17:53 the devteam is split, but unfortunately I may well be the only person on the community's side of the split 17:54 Chris_ANG: intersting, that's the same idea I've had to "fix" orctown 17:54 (I've heard that solution floated before, and if- 17:54 ah 17:54 Chris_ANG: basically that it replaces a level with a guaranteed chance to restock and some interesting terrain (seriously, people die in 3.4.3 Minetown way more often than you'd expect), with a level that's just another combat level and somewhat more difficult than normal 17:54 Yup :) 17:54 probably by me then :) 17:54 it has some guaranteed resources, but considerably future 17:54 -if I add orctown to dnethack, that seems like a good way to do it 17:55 *considerably fewer 17:55 Chris_ANG: what I was considering was 17:55 add orctown 17:55 try to avoid being lynched 17:55 in general I'm a proponent of special levels that can act as milestones 17:55 add a special minesend with "refugees" or whatever that set up shop, including an aligned priest (but no temple) 17:55 Minetown can, Orctown can't really 17:56 and have the aligned priest ask you to slay all the orcs in minetown 17:56 FIQ: aligned priest behaviour outside temples is bizarre 17:56 you'd need to change it 17:56 and if you do this successfully, he/she hands you the luckstone and guranteed free protection 17:56 (see: vanilla Slash'EM's Lawful Quest, which is probably the most slexy thing in vanilla Slash'EM) 17:56 lol. I never thought I would hear "vanilla slash'em" in the same sentence 17:57 I'm not sure if this idea is crazy or not 17:57 Porkman: it's a really useful term to have when variants of variants are common 17:57 but I like it personally 17:57 well 17:57 "vanilla NH4" can be used on occasion too 17:57 any level with an increased challenge ought to give some sort of increased reward 17:57 FIQ: it's more tolerable than the vanilla method but I suspect the depths are wrong 17:57 as you're basically forcing players to the deep mines earlier than they're ready, that's much more dangerous 17:57 Dnethack has a particularly hard version of Mine's endyou can get (orc mine's end) 17:57 ais523: the intention was to try to balance the less reward of minetown with a larger reward later 17:58 yes, I understand 17:58 I guess I think of it this way: NetHack's a high-headroom game, whereas random challenge spikes (especially early-game) are more something that you'd expect in a low-headroom game because they force you to have a particularly good early start 17:58 ais523: getting down to the level would be easy (find a pickaxe), but you'd still have to need to get back 17:59 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:59 if you happen to want to play a character that has a hard start, and then get orctown, what are you meant to do? other than die 17:59 or compromise your principles 17:59 come to think of it, mandatory risk/reward tradeoffs are probably an antipattern 17:59 also, speaking of mines 17:59 f + 2 blessed scrolls of enchant weapon named B/C 17:59 --- awesome 17:59 FIQHack gurantees lit upper mines, dark lower mines 18:00 (skippable tradeoffs have different properties) 18:00 I know 2 people who has expressed disagreements about this 18:00 now I can have a very plus enchanted dwarvish mattock 18:00 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1116 points, 1494 turns, killed by a gnome on hardfought 18:00 so I'm not sure if it is a good idea or not 18:00 I'd prefer to make it more gradual 18:00 something I've considered as an alternative is, always dark mines except for the levels next to minetown 18:00 I also think having a dark level above Minetown is potentially interesting, but then I basically never play human 18:01 you saw my dungeon overhaul suggestion, right? where levels aren't all-lit or all-dark, deeper levels are darker 18:01 yeah 18:01 by using a sessile monster which emits light IIRC 18:01 yes, and with a slight chance of poison res from its corpse, thus tempting players to kill it 18:01 (and which grants poison res) 18:01 eh, I forgot about the stupid race thing now I have juiblex in orctown 18:02 aoei\splat: die to it, get a new death 18:02 the YASI version of this is lighting the levels entirely with the candlegnomes 18:02 which would be fun flavourwise but a huge mess logistically 18:02 ais523: it's an interesting approach 18:02 come to think of it, mandatory risk/reward tradeoffs are probably an antipattern <-- can you expound on this a bit? 18:02 the sessile thing I mean 18:02 btw, 3.6.0 gnomes sometimes light their candles 18:02 I'm not sure on how it works, I didn't read the source 18:03 not sure how I feel about it 18:03 aosdict: so suppose you reach a particular point in the game, your character might be stronger than average, they might be weaker on average 18:03 also, random YANI: large contiguous random regions in the mines can generate lit 18:03 it irritates me I don't want htem using up the candles 18:03 if the level is easy and unrewarding, both characters survive, neither become much stronger 18:03 so the level is *partially* lit 18:03 I guess it was adopted from ais523's NH4 18:03 if it's hard and unrewarding, the strong character survives and gets even stronger, the weak character just dies 18:03 ais523: did you see my question yesterday about why null needs to be enabled to make animations work? 18:04 more candles in mines and gnomes use them for light if the level is dark 18:04 you're the terminal guy, I don't know :D 18:04 FIQ: I was part of the discussion but don't know the answer 18:04 also, AceHack has gnomes using candles 18:04 but NH4 doesn't because AceHack showed that having a large number of partially used candles of different lengths is annoying 18:05 so I reverted the bit of the commit that has the gnomes actually use them 18:05 YASI: allow the candles to stack, and keep track of the individual durations 18:05 ais523, ah ok I was thinking acehack 18:05 same same 18:06 FIQ: you know the ideas that slex has in terms of gameplay? that's on a similar level in terms of internals :-D 18:06 hahah 18:06 ais523: also, why gnomes? shouldn't dwarves be the ones with candles? 18:06 I physically facepalmed and now my face is smarting a bit 18:06 I think gnomes can see in the dark? 18:06 so can dwarves 18:06 FIQ: pretty sure ais supported that idea 18:06 or maybe it was jonadab 18:07 w - a blessed +4 dwarvish mattock (weapon in hands) 18:07 aw yeah 18:07 in D&D, though, they can only see in black and white in the dark and need a light source for colour vision 18:07 which seems helpful when mining 18:07 and in NetHack they can see monsters in the dark but not walls 18:07 again, being able to see a wall seems helpful when mining 18:07 [dnh] porkmantwo (Bin Inc Mal Non) wished for "blessed fireproof greased +3 atma weapon", on T:1867 18:07 anyway, I picked gnomes purely because it's the gnomish mines 18:07 ah 18:07 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 18:07 so they get to get special treatment 18:08 according to jonadab, I think, gnomes are actually earth spirits, whereas dwarves just like being underground. 18:08 (and the reason why it's the gnomish mines is, I think, because the other playable races had mines in different roguelikes) 18:08 one thing I was considering for differentiation re@gnomes and dwarves 18:08 orcish mines in DCSS (would have been LDC at the time) 18:08 was that both can see better in the dark 18:08 ADOM has a playable race mines too, I forget which 18:08 but dwarves can sense gold in walls 18:09 I don't think there's a major roguelike with elven mines? but that wouldn't make much flavour sense 18:09 droven mines? 18:09 ADOM has mines? hmm 18:09 aosdict: those would be really deep, I suspect 18:09 I'm trying to recall it now but not seeing anything 18:09 however, it has a dwarftown 18:09 which is analogous to NetHack's minetown 18:10 FIQ: I had the idea that gnomes have intrinsic xray radius 3 detection of gold and gems 18:10 but not in any kind of mines 18:10 no mines in ADOM, I just looked it up 18:10 right, then I remember it right 18:10 aosdict: I think monster dwarves can sense gold 18:10 maybe dwarves should have a larger radius but not detect gems? 18:10 so player ones should be able to too 18:12 ASCENDED: noims (Ran-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2684642 points, 80188 turns, ascended on hdf-eu 18:12 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/noims/dn36/dumplog/1510491032.dn36.txt 18:13 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 162 points, 169 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 18:13 TROPHY: noims now holds the Highest Scored Ranger 18:13 TROPHY: noims just earned the Double Top 18:13 ...That's a lot of orc captains in Orctown. 18:15 I can see an argument for just marking all the gold on a level as soon as a dwarf enters it 18:15 it'd encourage players to think greedy without actually really changing anything 18:16 obsoleting scrolls of gold detection, I guess, but that's minor 18:16 but even gold in monster inventories? or just free gold? 18:16 xorns can sense monsters with gold in their inventory 18:17 autoadjust is great 18:17 NH4 has a ton of random things like that 18:17 one major interhack feature I will miss once I go back to non-3.6.0 18:18 I was going to say, which variant has that, and what's the UI like? 18:18 NH4 has a very subtle autoadjust that steers items away from dangerous letters 18:18 the UI is "press tab to apply it" :P 18:18 yeah 18:18 but not a blatant autoadjust that would need configuration 18:19 if I were to make the item customization thingy 18:19 I would add a "preferred letter" option 18:21 yes, that would be a good way to do it 18:21 what would be the UI if there already was an item on that letter? 18:21 not sure if I should override it or not 18:22 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! noims accepted the Joust challenge. 18:23 Possible dnethack orctown configuration: 18:24 General shopkeeper and Izchak move shop to mine's end, 18:24 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 436 points, 707 turns, killed by using a magical horn on herself on hdf-eu 18:24 Tool shopkeeper and food shopkeeper are dead, and their shops' inventories are scattered around the level, 18:24 Aligned priest is dead, and the altar is converted to Moloch. 18:25 ...why is Anhur a special case in devnull unique deaths 18:25 (dNethack has a second temple on the neutral branch level, so characters can still buy protection fairly high up in the dungeon) 18:25 ok so I think arc is the best startscum role for this purpose 18:25 can get to minetown faster than everyone else 18:26 for magic lamps 18:26 also, fancy wish menu in interhack 18:26 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2604 points, 2315 turns, killed by a jaguar on hardfought 18:27 ais523: can I reset a RNG in some way? 18:27 I want to be able to re-roll starting inventories while keeping the integrity of everything else 18:27 maybe I should just create a seperate RNG for starting inventory? 18:28 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2841 points, 7061 turns, killed by a rabid rat on altorg 18:29 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 192 points, 162 turns, killed by a dart on hdf-eu 18:32 woo, fountain wish 18:33 FIQ, nice one 18:33 what you gonna get 18:33 sDSM? 18:33 no 18:33 something much better 18:33 Cursed figurine of something nasty? 18:34 FIQ: there's currently no API for resetting an RNG but it'd be easy enough to add one 18:34 ASCENDED: Tariru (Arc-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1839708 points, 36895 turns, ascended on hdf-eu 18:34 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tariru/dn36/dumplog/1511017344.dn36.txt 18:34 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 173 points, 714 turns, poisoned by a rotten lump of royal jelly on hdf-eu 18:34 ASCENDED: oh6 (Ran-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3506958 points, 72142 turns, ascended on hardfought 18:34 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/dn36/dumplog/1510503157.dn36.txt 18:34 grayswandir? You are blasted by Grayswandir's power! You die... 18:34 however, creating a separate RNG is probably a better optoin 18:34 also, two simultaneous ascensions? how often does that happen? 18:34 jonadab: no, that's better done with wizard revgeno 18:34 Royal jelly can rot? 18:34 and FIQ somehow managed to die in between, which is a good thing given that it's a unique deaths attempt 18:34 jonadab: that's the cursed message 18:34 Ah. 18:34 ais523: and a new death for once! 18:35 I tried to wish for trice egg earlier 18:35 but got a "while turning to stone" screwing everything up 18:35 TROPHY: oh6 now holds the Highest Scored Ranger 18:35 strangely, Fatty didn't get one in his similar death 18:35 not sure why 18:35 I watched his dumplog 18:35 he did the same thing 18:35 so I don't really get the difference 18:36 3.6.0 while-helpless bug? 18:36 although that might possible be fixed for d/n/t 18:36 while-helpless bug? 18:36 vanilla 3.6.0 produces some really weird death messages when people die while helpless 18:36 So did 3.4.3 18:36 normally with the wrong number of ", while " in the ending 18:36 I did manage to get a while helpless death by sheer accident earlier 18:36 Ah. 18:36 Not like that. 18:36 jonadab: vanilla 3.4.3 adds ", while helpless", unconditionally 18:37 but it didn't count because of the message wording 18:37 ais523: Oh, right, I was thinking of delayed instadeaths. 18:37 although most people on IRC don't know this because NAO had its own code for that 18:37 84 deaths 18:37 whereas in 3.6.0 sometimes you get multiple lines worth of varying ", while" reasons 18:37 5 more until I'm 1st, unless Fatty get some more deaths 18:40 bah, rust monster ruined my shoes 18:40 this is probably the first time I use #untrap seriousl 18:40 y 18:40 so that I can find chest traps 18:40 and then get my HP to 1 18:40 before setting them off 18:41 DIED: jmcunx (Cav-Gno-Mal-Neu), 254 points, 1174 turns, killed by a wand on hardfought 18:41 hm 18:41 apparently I haven't die to a shopkeeper yet 18:41 need to sort that out later 18:42 hm, found a bones piles with some potentially good stuff but I have no inventory space :-( 18:44 where are you playing? 18:47 -!- Tarmunora__ has joined #hardfought 18:47 eu.hardfought 18:48 wow there's some awesome loot in there 18:50 =oPC, speed boots, CoMR, =oTC, /oCancel, /olightning, lots of stuff... 18:50 DIED: Webmant (Cav-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1686 points, 2833 turns, poisoned by an orcish arrow on hardfought 18:51 -!- Tarmunora_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:52 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 588 points, 1463 turns, killed by a burning book on hdf-eu 18:53 aoei\splat: my bones? 18:53 You read: "deki, killed by a horse". There are many objects here. 18:53 ah 18:53 guess not 18:53 :) 18:53 pretty good wizbones though 18:53 -!- Guest65865 has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:55 huh, wiki says uncursed enchant armor should uncurse the armor if it's cursed, but my speed boots are still cursed 19:01 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 305 points, 1100 turns, killed by a sewer rat on altorg 19:02 -!- Porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:05 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 544 points, 1102 turns, killed by a wand on hdf-eu 19:07 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2408 points, 3402 turns, killed by a giant spider on hardfought 19:10 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 128 points, 731 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 19:12 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 19:13 umm 19:13 hm 19:13 this looks like a potential bug 19:13 that reminds me of a dNetHack bug 19:21 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 978 points, 1355 turns, killed by colliding with the ceiling on hdf-eu 19:21 we're one ascension away from 100 total for the tournament 19:22 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 19:35 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 19:36 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 210 points, 634 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hdf-eu 19:37 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 153 points, 182 turns, killed by a falling object on hdf-eu 19:37 ASCENDED: jonathanhanes (Mon-Hum-Fem-Law), 1639304 points, 30115 turns, ascended on hardfought 19:37 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jonathanhanes/dn36/dumplog/1510991183.dn36.txt 19:38 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! aoei completed the Grue challenge. 19:38 finally finished the bloody grue challenge 19:39 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 20 points, 108 turns, killed by a little dart on hdf-eu 19:39 TROPHY: jonathanhanes just earned the Double Top 19:43 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Law), 518 points, 589 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt on hdf-eu 19:45 oh 19:46 you need poison resistance for the one I wanted 19:46 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 191 points, 412 turns, killed by contaminated water on hdf-eu 19:46 at least this one was also new 19:46 DIED: larry (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 348 points, 2742 turns, killed by a bat on hardfought 19:50 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 19:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 19:50 -!- Tarmunora_ has joined #hardfought 19:51 ais523: why is it that sometimes in 3.6 it will suddenly ask you again for a difficult spellbook if you're interrupted, and if you answer "no" and then read it again, it will go through? 19:51 not sure what the bug here is 19:54 -!- Tarmunora__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:56 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 255 points, 617 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted jackal, while praying on hdf-eu 19:57 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 11 points, 163 turns, killed by a falling rock on hdf-eu 19:58 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 100 points, 70 turns, killed by a kobold on hdf-eu 20:05 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 210 points, 650 turns, killed by Ms. Y-Fenni, the shopkeeper on hdf-eu 20:06 TROPHY: FIQ now holds the Most Unique Deaths 20:13 -!- fatty has joined #hardfought 20:14 hi fatty 20:15 hi 20:15 Hello fatty, Welcome to #hardfought 20:15 it's getting to that point where i know i should go to bed, but I'm just enjoying this run so damn much 20:15 looks like we got a good competition going! 20:15 :) 20:15 would be pretty funny if I YASD 20:15 how does it feel having the 2nd most unique deahts ;) 20:16 i don't care much for it :) 20:17 DIED: aoei (Rog-Hum-Mal-Cha), 227192 points, 4924 turns, splatted 20:18 should be DIED: aoei (Orc-Bar-Fem-Cha), 0 points, splatted to a trivial monster, while not paying attention 20:18 Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha 20:18 but yeah 20:18 oh right 20:18 also I thought Bandit was rogue... 20:20 xl9 Rogue would be a Rogue, then at xl10 graduates to Pilferer and Robber when quest ready 20:20 ah 20:20 you'd think rogues would be the one with a bandit rank 20:20 it would make sense 20:20 too much sense for NetHack 20:21 soon I'll upgrade to Brigand 20:21 DIED: fatty (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 8 turns, choked on a deadly slime mold on hardfought 20:22 heh, interhack also procs when watching others 20:22 Aoei: Bar Orc Fem Cha St:18/01 Dx:17 Co:18 In:7 Wi:9 Ch:6 S:227 20:22 Dlvl:6 $:4721 HP:88(88) Pw:20(20) AC:-8 Xp:9n938 T:4945 20:27 DIED: fatty (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 11 turns, killed by a grid bug on hardfought 20:30 DIED: fatty (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 23 points, 11 turns, choked on an orange on hardfought 20:33 DIED: fatty (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 12 turns, killed by a poisonous corpse on hardfought 20:34 TROPHY: fatty now holds the Most Unique Deaths 20:34 -!- Tarmunora_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:35 DIED: fatty (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 16 points, 12 turns, choked on a food ration on hardfought 20:35 FIQ, what was that you were saying? 20:36 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 62 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu 20:36 2pfff 20:36 DIED: fatty (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 4 points, 8 turns, choked on a tripe ration on hardfought 20:37 ahhh, back in the lead feels nice 20:38 go go fatty 20:42 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 532 points, 1195 turns, killed by an unrefrigerated sip of juice on hdf-eu 20:42 there, now I don't need to play orcs anymore 20:42 for now 20:46 Aoei the Brigand awwwh yeah 20:46 Im a BRIGAND 20:49 DIED: FIQ (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 397 points, 761 turns, choked on a clove of garlic on hdf-eu 20:49 that's my last choke except for the knife one which is trickier 20:52 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 8 points, 86 turns, killed by a water elemental, while vomiting on hdf-eu 20:53 tell me about it 20:53 whoops, chat moved on me 20:54 just pretend I never said anything 20:54 -!- deadnoob has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:54 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 20:54 jackal corpse was a food ration 20:54 lol 20:55 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 339 points, 596 turns, choked on a food ration on hdf-eu 20:58 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 280 points, 432 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hdf-eu 20:58 damn it, stupid Set gave me Cleaver 20:59 DIED: noims (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 39469 points, 13822 turns, killed by a quasit, while praying on hdf-eu 20:59 I have a feeling my blessed rustproof +6 mattock is still better 21:06 -!- dave__ has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:06 DIED: bleeko (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 1151 points, 2592 turns, killed by a werejackal on hardfought 21:07 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 21:10 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 1009 points, 1271 turns, killed by a rock mole on hdf-eu 21:13 DIED: fatty (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 5055 points, 3974 turns, killed by a fire ant on hardfought 21:15 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 5 turns, killed by a magic missile on hardfought 21:15 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 21:18 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 88 points, 598 turns, killed by kicking a wall on hdf-eu 21:18 -!- Kontroller\unfoo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:19 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 100 points, 547 turns, quit while already on Charon's boat on hardfought 21:19 afk slepep 21:24 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 21:24 DIED: bleeko (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 311 points, 949 turns, killed by a small mimic, while fainted from lack of food on hardfought 21:24 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:25 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 21:25 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 21:27 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 212 points, 1026 turns, killed by Mr. Ossipewsk, the shopkeeper on hardfought 21:30 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 103 points, 28 turns, zapped himself with a wand on hardfought 21:39 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 21:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 21:40 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! k2 accepted the Joust challenge. 21:41 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 478 points, 1542 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 21:42 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:43 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 21:44 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 21:48 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! k2 completed the Joust challenge. 21:51 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 7608 points, 7657 turns, killed by a mumak on altorg 21:51 DIED: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 40 points, 84 turns, killed by an electric shock on hardfought 21:52 DIED: shadowcat (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 55 points, 319 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought 21:52 DIED: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 44 points, 85 turns, killed by a newt on hardfought 21:53 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1201 points, 1676 turns, killed by wedging into a narrow crevice, while moving through the air on hardfought 21:54 fatty, I see you found a new way to die 21:59 DIED: jonathanhanes (Ran-Elf-Fem-Cha), 823 points, 695 turns, killed by a gnome lord, while helpless on hardfought 22:01 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 327898 points, 34770 turns, drowned in a moat on hardfought 22:07 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! k2 accepted the Dig-Dug challenge. 22:10 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:11 DIED: jmcunx (Cav-Gno-Mal-Neu), 302 points, 1186 turns, killed by a gecko on hardfought 22:26 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 22:41 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:43 -!- aoei\splat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:07 DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2968 points, 887 turns, killed by a giant mimic on hdf-au 23:08 [fh] KickyMcAssingtn (Kni Hum Mal Law), 13873 points, T:1141, killed by a gas spore's explosion 23:18 DIED: Tangles (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 651 points, 757 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-au 23:20 -!- notzmv has left #hardfought 23:21 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:24 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 122 points, 239 turns, killed by an iron ball collision on hardfought 23:25 bug_sniper, which way was that? 23:30 -!- Jendic has quit [Quit: *poof*] 23:34 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 909 points, 2628 turns, killed by a hill orc on altorg 23:40 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 809 points, 1070 turns, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs on hardfought 23:46 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 919 points, 941 turns, killed by a water moccasin, while praying on hardfought 23:51 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 570 points, 887 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 23:55 DIED: k2 (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 750 points, 1820 turns, killed by a giant ant on hardfought