00:04 -!- hpardis has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:05 DIED: ab5ni (Bar-Hum-Mal-Neu), 9100 points, 5996 turns, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping on hardfought 00:07 -!- stenno\PoP has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:09 DIED: qp (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 510 points, 2166 turns, caught himself in his own magical blast on hardfought 00:09 DIED: ab5ni (Bar-Hum-Mal-Neu), 401 points, 384 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 00:11 DIED: qp (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 158 points, 370 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 00:11 another magic marker 00:12 Feeling good about this run… Might be my first 3.6 ascension. Almost have a kit and haven’t even reached medusa yet (no WoW tho). 00:12 I'm doomed 00:16 DIED: qp (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 100 points, 166 turns, killed by a bear trap on hardfought 00:21 just need some sdsm 00:22 DIED: qp (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 324 points, 563 turns, killed by a magic missile on hardfought 00:25 DIED: qp (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 222 points, 208 turns, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph on hardfought 00:32 DIED: qp (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 253 points, 643 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hardfought 00:34 -!- katung has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:35 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 00:40 ASCENDED: mtf (Pri-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1963288 points, 28086 turns, ascended on hardfought 00:40 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mtf/dn36/dumplog/1509989138.dn36.txt 00:41 TROPHY: mtf just earned the Birdie 00:41 ah, it's finally my turn to get orcto 00:41 orctown* 00:41 DIED: qp (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 383 points, 760 turns, killed by a gnome on hardfought 00:45 DIED: qp (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 200 points, 311 turns, killed by an invisible goblin on hardfought 00:45 DIED: aosdict (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3534 points, 4299 turns, killed by a winter wolf on hardfought 00:45 DIED: qp (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 10 turns, killed by a water demon on hardfought 00:46 that's the second run I've had today where I died just by being swarmed by summoned wolves from a werewolf 00:47 da birdyyyyy 00:47 I'm happy =D 00:47 YANI: bump up werewolves' difficulty some to account for the fact that they bring in a mob of difficulty 6-7 monsters. 00:48 congrats MTF 00:54 DIED: qp (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 327 points, 771 turns, killed by a gnome, while frozen by a potion on hardfought 00:54 -!- raisse is now known as raisse\splat 01:01 thanks aodict 01:02 shpingrlde: yes they share a key 01:03 "the word tariru" 01:04 gloves can have properties but not in the offensive sense no 01:04 -!- shpingrlde has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 01:11 MTF: gz! 01:12 congrats MTF 01:13 -!- shpingrlde has joined #hardfought 01:14 -!- shpingrlde has quit [Client Quit] 01:14 -!- shpingrlde has joined #hardfought 01:17 -!- shpingrlde has quit [Client Quit] 01:20 DIED: qp (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1451 points, 1637 turns, killed by a giant ant on hardfought 01:23 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 01:26 DIED: qp (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 123 points, 141 turns, killed by a fox on hardfought 01:29 DIED: qp (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 127 points, 129 turns, killed by a dagger on hardfought 01:29 nooooo… can’t wish without finishing ZAPM 01:30 or turn it off on the website (but then it's turned off forever) 01:31 good luck! 01:32 -!- shpingrlde has joined #hardfought 01:35 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 557 points, 1966 turns, killed by a giant bat, while sleeping on altorg 01:35 DIED: qp (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 105 points, 240 turns, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph on hardfought 01:43 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 02:01 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:01 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 02:04 do the wishless conduct then 02:08 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 02:09 hey i'm modding nethack right now and i'm trying to add in a piece of armor 02:09 but i have no idea what the "delay" parameter means 02:09 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:10 delay is how many turns it takes to put the thing on; some types are coded in do_wear.c so that they expect to have a delay, I've run into problems when making something have a delay of 0 occasionally 02:11 okay thank you 02:13 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:13 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 02:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 02:14 what's "can" mean? 02:16 magic cancellation; values range from 0 to 3 in vanilla 02:16 okay thank you 02:16 that makes those values make a lot more sense 02:24 DIED: ninetale (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 6099 points, 1660 turns, killed by a dwarf mummy, while frozen by a monster's gaze on altorg 02:33 okay what are all the steps you have to take to add a piece of armor to the game? 02:35 i wrote the armor into the objects.c 02:35 and i guess i have to put the name into objnam.h 02:35 and it looks like add its case into do_wear.c 02:35 you mean onames.h? that one is automatically generated 02:35 yeah, add a case to do_wear.c 02:37 er right yeah 02:37 onames.h 02:37 onames.h is automatically generated when you compile, don't edit it :) 02:37 oh okay 02:38 that's why it messed up when i compiled it :x 02:39 how do I use grep in unix? if I say "grep Erdrick.des" I just get a blank line that apparently expects input, but I want to search all files in this folder and subfolders for the string "Erdrick.des"! 02:41 -!- MTF has quit [Quit: *poof*] 02:42 jonadab: help! I don't know how to grep for a string in all subfolders! 02:42 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 02:43 http://i.imgur.com/zBgoCXw.png 02:43 ahh thanks, that helped :) 02:44 -!- MTF has joined #hardfought 02:47 dang it i got a weird error 02:48 paste the error message! 02:49 it says: "The command 'C:\Users\...\NetHack\win\win32\vs2017\...\...\...\tools\debug\win32\makedefs.exe -o' exited with code 1." 02:49 there must be an error somewhere else in the compile log 02:49 and refers to me to line 8 of aftermakedefs.proj 02:50 DIED: Entitas (Pri-Hum-Fem-Neu), 5382 points, 4521 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hardfought 02:50 well it only happened after i added that custom armor in 02:50 can you grep the compile log for lines that contain "error"? 02:52 i don't know 02:52 because i don't know what "grep" means 02:53 hmm... what operating system are you using? 02:53 windows 02:53 ah, then that obviously doesn't work :/ 02:54 well, grepping for the error, I mean 02:54 but there should still be some line in the compile log showing the actual error 02:54 yes i think so 02:55 1>C:\Users\...\NetHack\win\win32\vs2017\aftermakedefs.proj(8,2): error MSB3073: The command "C:\Users\...\NetHack\win\win32\vs2017\..\..\..\tools\Debug\Win32\makedefs.exe -o" exited with code 1. 02:55 huh? I've never seen that message before... 02:55 well that's comforting 02:58 is there nothing error-like in the lines before that message? 02:58 it's the fourth line down so no 02:59 it was the only error in the whole thing 02:59 do you know aftermakedefs.proj does? 03:00 no, I didn't even know it was part of the compile process :( 03:00 *know what 03:02 okay 03:02 does 3.6 have anything like NH4 where you can slide your cursor (by keyboard or mouse) across multiple items to quickly farlook them all? 03:03 is there anywhere else i need to insert my new armor piece besides objects.c and do_wear.c? 03:06 can you post a screenshot of your attempt to compile? 03:07 rip i can't 03:07 what would you have looked for 03:08 well, an error message pointing to one of the files you have edited (objects.c or do_name.c) 03:08 well there isn't one b/c this mystery error was the only one returned 03:09 there were a bunch of warnings though 03:09 shpingrlde: 3.6.1 does 03:09 not sure if 3.6.0 does 03:09 press / 03:09 see if you get an option for it 03:10 -!- shpingrlde has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:17 LarienTelrunya: welp i've gtg for the night, so if you come up with something, i'd really appreciate it if you tell me. thanks for your help tonight, too 03:17 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:23 -!- Webmant has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:24 -!- shpingrlde has joined #hardfought 03:26 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:28 -!- shpingrlde has quit [Client Quit] 03:28 -!- shpingrlde has joined #hardfought 03:29 thanks FIQ , / O is awesome 03:44 !tell K2 pushed a fix with eggs 03:44 Will do, FIQ! 03:48 -!- nht has joined #hardfought 03:50 !tell K2 pushed minor fixes 03:50 Will do, FIQ! 03:50 oops, didn't intend to do that twice 03:50 -!- ninetale has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:50 brainfart 03:50 oh well 03:58 Why can a mind flayer instadeath not be recovered via life saving? It just eats your brain, but if you're being *disintegrated*, your entire body is gone (including the brain), shouldn't that also be a permanent, not-lifesave-able instadeath then? 04:02 Evil Patch idea: acid pits. Like regular pits, but deal severe acid damage each turn and can quickly kill you unless you have acid resistance, plus it corrodes your entire inventory. 04:08 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 04:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 04:15 YANI for dnethack: implement super glue from ZAPM, and make it the elder priest's kryptonite by allowing the player to glue his tentacles together, preventing him from attacking with them. 04:15 Would also work on mind flayers and anything else that has tentacles, of course. 04:45 ASCENDED: Raisse (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2011430 points, 42450 turns, ascended on hdf-eu 04:45 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Raisse/dn36/dumplog/1509957446.dn36.txt 04:46 TROPHY: Raisse just earned the Dilithium Star 04:50 [fh] Eir IV (puck) (Val Hum Fem Law), 77520 points, T:23188, petrified by catching the eye of Medusa 04:51 !lastgame 04:51 FIQ: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/puck/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-11-07%2009%3A50%3A07%2C%20Eir%20IV-Val-Hum-Fem-Law%2C%20died.txt 04:51 eep did you forget to put your towel on? 04:52 raisse\splat: it's puck1 04:52 er, puck isn't here 04:52 in #NetHack 04:52 yes, I was just talking to them over there, too 04:52 still giddy with ascending :-) 04:52 heh 04:52 raisse\splat: gz! 04:53 thanks! 04:53 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 04:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 04:53 had to put on a ring of conflict so I could wade through the ants 04:54 heh 04:55 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:56 LarienTelrunya, would the ZAPM glue work on Harvey Weinstein? 04:56 nah, too slimy 04:57 hmmm, use some gaffer/cloth tape then? That stuff is meant to work underwater 04:57 well, be waterproof maybe not work underwater. But not necessarily slime-proof 04:59 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:06 -!- khoR has joined #hardfought 05:13 -!- bug_sniper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:21 DIED: Rex (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 152867 points, 31069 turns, drowned in a pool of water by a python on hdf-eu 05:22 TROPHY: Rex now holds the Highest Scored Caveman 05:23 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 289 points, 460 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hdf-eu 05:25 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:25 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 05:25 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 05:38 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 05:39 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:40 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 05:42 -!- elenmirie\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:42 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie\splat 05:42 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:44 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 05:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 05:49 omg the bot spammed all the trophies. 05:50 sorry :( 06:09 Bad bot! 06:15 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:16 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 06:16 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Client Quit] 06:25 DIED: groovejumper (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 22 points, 249 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought 06:33 -!- shpingrlde has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 06:49 DIED: groovejumper (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2660 points, 3334 turns, killed by a plains centaur on hardfought 07:09 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 07:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 07:15 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 843 points, 2666 turns, killed by a sewer rat, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu 07:22 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 1578 points, 1614 turns, killed by an orc zombie on hdf-eu 07:25 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Rex accepted the Joust challenge. 07:27 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:28 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 07:28 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hothraxxa] by ChanServ 07:32 -!- nht has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:38 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 176 points, 200 turns, killed by a jackal, while unconscious from rotten food on hdf-eu 07:39 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 136 points, 160 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 07:53 DIED: wooble (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 32136 points, 12572 turns, killed by sitting on an iron spike on hardfought 07:55 DIED: Rex (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 742 points, 1923 turns, killed by a newt, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 07:55 TROPHY: wooble just earned the Lead Star 07:56 DIED: wooble (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 29 points, 10 turns, killed by a potion of holy water on hardfought 07:59 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 2686 points, 6237 turns, killed by a rock piercer on hdf-eu 08:03 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 509 points, 787 turns, shot herself with a death ray on hardfought 08:04 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 982 points, 1630 turns, killed by a falling rock on hdf-eu 08:04 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 08:04 YASI for ZAPM: when you are "pregnant" with a chestburster alien, and you are lawful, killing it in any way counts as murder. That would require alignments to exist in ZAPM, though. Alternate YASI: implement chestburster aliens in NetHack, and lawfuls get dinged for murder if they kill one. 08:05 [nd] Mischling (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 647 points, T:946, killed by a dagger 08:06 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:09 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:10 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 756 points, 968 turns, killed by a cave spider on hardfought 08:18 wow 08:20 DIED: Eleven (Mon-Hum-Fem-Cha), 3497 points, 5058 turns, killed by a hill orc on hardfought 08:20 HEAD är nu på f60000077 Fix: Medusa meets Medusa's gaze 08:20 nice commit hash 08:21 DIED: wooble (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 600 points, 318 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hardfought 08:22 DIED: wooble (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 61 turns, killed by axing a hard object on hardfought 08:23 DIED: Rex (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 1072 points, 1826 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hdf-eu 08:25 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 529 points, 458 turns, killed by a black pudding on hardfought 08:26 DIED: Rex (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 333 points, 504 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu 08:26 DIED: wooble (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 31 points, 87 turns, killed by a grid bug on hardfought 08:28 [nd] Mischling (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:3443 08:28 DIED: wooble (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 181 points, 131 turns, killed by a falling object on hardfought 08:29 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1056 points, 4016 turns, poisoned by a centipede on hdf-eu 08:29 [fh] Eir V (puck) (Val Hum Fem Law), 33368 points, T:2273, killed by a valkyrie called "Eir" 08:29 !tell StatueSurfer I'd really recommend you use Linux in some way to try compiling NetHack. Whether that's Windows Subsystem for Linux, or a VM, or whatever. As you can see, most people can't help you with Windows-specific errors. 08:29 Will do, aosdict! 08:30 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 08:33 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 82 points, 309 turns, killed by a burning scroll on hardfought 08:34 !lastgame 08:34 FIQ: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/puck/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-11-07%2013%3A28%3A58%2C%20Eir%20V-Val-Hum-Fem-Law%2C%20died.txt 08:35 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 67 points, 55 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hardfought 08:40 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 3320 points, 5005 turns, killed by a winter wolf cub, while praying on hdf-eu 08:43 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 08:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 08:43 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 534 points, 1407 turns, killed by a kitten on hardfought 08:44 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 610 points, 904 turns, killed by a large kobold, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu 08:45 DIED: Rex (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 197 points, 381 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu 08:46 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 191 points, 302 turns, killed by an incubus on hardfought 08:50 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 758 points, 905 turns, killed by a snake, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu 08:51 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Mischling accepted the Pac-Man challenge. 08:52 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 468 points, 1778 turns, killed by an incubus on hardfought 08:55 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Mischling accepted the Grue challenge. 08:56 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Mischling accepted the Pool challenge. 09:22 -!- bug_sniper_ has joined #hardfought 09:23 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 694 points, 1378 turns, killed by an imp on hdf-eu 09:29 DIED: Rex (Mon-Hum-Fem-Law), 644 points, 588 turns, killed by a hobgoblin on hdf-eu 09:35 DIED: Mischling (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 6032 points, 6255 turns, killed by a gremlin on hardfought 09:39 ASCENDED: Mandevil (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 2356968 points, 34435 turns, ascended on hdf-eu 09:39 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Mandevil/dn36/dumplog/1509735305.dn36.txt 09:39 \o/ 09:39 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-11-07 03:44 EST: pushed a fix with eggs 09:39 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-11-07 03:50 EST: pushed minor fixes 09:40 TROPHY: Mandevil now holds the Highest Scored Rogue 09:40 TROPHY: Mandevil just earned the Dilithium Star 09:45 DIED: Rex (Mon-Hum-Fem-Law), 3128 points, 1363 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hdf-eu 09:45 grats Mandevil\splat! 09:45 Grasshopper: Thanks. 09:45 Grasshopper: Aren't you about to ascend as well? 09:47 Mandevil\splat, yes when I get around to it! 09:48 is there a "most ascensions in 24 hours" trophy? if so we'll probably have it if Grasshopper ascends today as well 09:53 DIED: Rex (Rog-Orc-Fem-Cha), 8 points, 77 turns, killed by a magical explosion on hdf-eu 09:57 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 6987 points, 7503 turns, killed by a psychic blast on hardfought 09:57 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4041 points, 6467 turns, killed by a giant bat on hardfought 09:58 DIED: zaga (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1902 points, 1630 turns, killed by a wand on hardfought 09:59 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 929 points, 1843 turns, killed by a dagger on hdf-eu 10:01 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 10:03 [dnh] rikersan (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 69 points, T:145, killed by a water moccasin 10:05 [dnh] rikersan (Bin Swn Fem Non), 68 points, T:283, killed by a newt 10:06 DIED: aosdict (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3798 points, 4047 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 10:10 DIED: Rex (Rog-Hum-Fem-Cha), 1325 points, 1280 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 10:10 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 10:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 10:11 [dnh] rikersan (Bin Inc Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:724 10:13 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:16 YANI: You can pacify (but not tame) most d and f monsters by throwing appropriate food at them. 10:17 oh like tigers and jackals 10:17 I was about to say "but you already can" 10:21 -!- Webmant has joined #hardfought 10:22 DIED: zaga (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 824 points, 1092 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 10:25 [dnh] rikersan (Bin Inc Mal Non), 10450 points, T:2522, killed by a giant spider 10:25 I really need to stop read-id'ing scrolls 10:27 NetHack isn't Brogue. There are lots of ways to identify items _before_ you use them. 10:28 -!- Webmant has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:30 hmm, 2 unidentified lamps... 10:31 -!- nht has joined #hardfought 10:33 aaaarch 10:33 are they different kinds? 10:33 my autopickup exceptions apparently don't match "cursed stone called prob load" 10:34 raisse\splat: no 10:36 and this priest is one who DIDN'T start with +oRC 10:36 if I had that spell, I could make sure the exceptions were working properly :) 10:39 oh hello, bones for the first time in devnull 10:40 DIED: nht (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1558 points, 600 turns, killed by a gnome lord, while praying on hdf-eu 10:40 DIED: aosdict (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1434 points, 2035 turns, killed by a gnome on hardfought 10:49 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 2904 points, 2648 turns, killed by a hill orc on hardfought 10:50 aosdict: but why would you autopickup stones in first place 10:50 likely autopickup types 10:50 for gems 10:50 mhm 10:50 DIED: knaveightt (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 3842 points, 2225 turns, killed by a dingo on hardfought 10:51 and a lot of gems are "foo stone 10:51 " 10:51 DIED: nht (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1388 points, 1023 turns, killed by a falling rock on hdf-eu 10:52 "Matty falls into a pit!" 10:52 Matty is a trapper. They are basically a huge carpet on the floor. How does that fall into a pit? 10:53 -!- katung has joined #hardfought 10:53 it's a big pit 10:54 DIED: wooble (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 0 points, 20 turns, slipped while mounting a saddled pony on hardfought 11:07 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 11:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 11:07 DIED: aosdict (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 692 points, 1934 turns, killed by a bat, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 11:07 I feel like there's been a lot more deaths to team e during the tourney than unusual 11:08 DIED: nht (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2715 points, 979 turns, killed by a troll on hdf-eu 11:08 I was just frustrated, he was blocking a long corridor 11:08 ah ok 11:09 It's usually easier to lure them back into the room you just left, than to wait for them to move away from you down a corridor. 11:09 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:10 jonadab: he was at the *other end* of a very long corridir 11:10 corridor* 11:11 [fh] Brynhildr (puck) (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the ghost of TKirby, the former Thaumaturge, on T:12874 11:15 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 81 points, 373 turns, killed by a small mimic on hdf-eu 11:17 EPI: a data deletion scroll on slashem extended 11:18 perhaps it has to be an artifact that's as rare as the deletorous bug 11:18 what's that bug? 11:20 @le?deletorous bug 11:20 No such monster. 11:20 @le?deleterous bug 11:20 No such monster. 11:20 not in beholder yet 11:21 -!- Webmant has joined #hardfought 11:27 -!- bug_sniper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:29 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:31 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 11:31 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 11:34 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 344 points, 1398 turns, killed by a jackal, while reading a book on hdf-eu 11:34 -!- bug_sniper_ has joined #hardfought 11:43 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 794 points, 973 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 11:53 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:56 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01 DIED: Rex (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 72 points, 70 turns, killed by an alchemic blast on hdf-eu 12:10 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 1053 points, 4322 turns, killed by a giant rat, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu 12:22 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 12:23 DIED: Rex (Sam-Hum-Fem-Law), 1070 points, 1046 turns, killed by a pony on hdf-eu 12:23 those water demons are so grateful when you use their fountain to dilute your useless potions! 12:32 Rikersan, are you awake?> :p 12:33 Raisse - it's all a trap. THey do grant some wishes sometimes because that makes many a foolish newbie adventurer release them and give them their own soul instead. It's a bit like playing the lottery. 12:34 that being said I once got a wish from a fountain on d17 or 18 12:34 all I wanted was a potion of water instead of sickness, so I could pray over it and get it blessed 12:36 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 12:37 aosdict: Ah. 12:37 ah what? 12:38 -!- stenno\PoP has joined #hardfought 12:41 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 12:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 12:41 !lastgame dnh 12:41 rikersan: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rikersan/dnethack/dumplog/1510067143.dnh.txt 12:41 jonadab: ? 12:43 aosdict: other end of a very long corridor. 12:44 In that case, yeah, you walk up to it and write Elbereth, and then it "flees" but doesn't move, and then it stops fleeing and wants to approach you again, except it's already adjacent, rinse, repeat. 12:45 (I personally consider this stationary "fleeing" one of the more glaring AI movement bugs in vanilla.) 12:45 And priests are typically short on things to throw at them, and usually miss anyway. 12:45 (It happens for the same reason that pets don't want to follow you down a corridor if you are even slightly faster than them.) 12:46 Right, I was assuming it was early enough that you had no ranged attacks. 12:46 Floating eyes start showing up pretty early. 12:46 And you've been around NetHack enough to know to use ranged attacks against an eye if you have them. 12:49 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/7b82ul/favourite_pieces_of_unhelpful_advice/?st=j9pwtqvn&sh=5b9e41e3 coming up with advice for this was kinda fun 12:50 more fun if the advice sounds plausible by someone not that well-versed into the game 12:50 Yes, I am enjoying that thread. 12:50 Discovered it at an inconvenient time (needed to get ready for work), didn't get to put much thought into my answer, but. 12:51 "The fastest way to find out which potions are which is to quaff all the unidentified ones you find." I actually do this :P 12:51 When you don't have a unicorn horn? 12:51 yes 12:51 How often to you end up getting killed by a hallucinogen-distorted monster? 12:51 pop quiz! what is wrong with this: To deal with monsters with dangerous wands: make sure to stay at a knight's distance from them. That way, they will not be able to hit you without moving 12:52 jonadab: oh, hallu isn't that bad danger-wise 12:52 it's just annoying 12:52 lock yourself in a closed 12:52 *closet 12:52 while testing 12:52 Ah. 12:52 I suppose. 12:53 Oooh, I like the one about zapping polywand at starting pet. Subtle. 12:53 A lot of moderately-experienced players might think that's sane. 12:53 The knight's move thing would work in NH4, wouldn't it? 12:53 nope! 12:53 Or is that only in FIQHack? 12:53 only in FIQHack and dNetHack 12:53 Ah. 12:53 Ok. 12:53 isn't move+attack a great feature 12:54 the one about ray-type wands is something I do, if I have plenty of HP and a weak ray like magic missile 12:54 Eh, just go a double-knight's-move away (four east/west and six north/south, or vice versa). 12:55 jonadab: sure 12:55 but it's still a horrible feature 12:55 IMO 12:55 aosdict: Or the relevant resistance? 12:55 FIQ: Yes, I agree. 12:55 FIQ: I'd cherry-pick your change if I weren't certain it's dependent on a bunch of your other monster-AI stuff. 12:55 But I'll get it on rebase. 12:55 pretty sure it isn't 12:55 I mean, dnethack has it 12:55 Oh? 12:55 Hmm. 12:56 I might consider it for .5 then. 12:56 It's too late to risk a change like that for .4 though. 12:57 Did you get that idea about corpses from ais' descriptions of unspoiled-player behavior? 12:57 jonadab: just checked 12:57 (He has described seeing unspoiled players do exactly that.) 12:57 apparently 4k also has the fix 12:57 cherry-picked from FIQHack 12:57 FIQ: Oh? Neat. 12:57 Forgot I did that. 12:57 part of 9bdd578c1 12:57 Maybe that's why I thought NH4 has it. Forgot where I inherited the change from. 12:58 jonadab: yes, but he is right 12:58 I did this myself... 12:58 FIQ: Oh, interesting, I did not know that. 13:00 Hah, thought of another one. 13:01 there is actually more roles that start with food :P 13:01 Yes. 13:01 knight is even more fun because they start with apples/etc for a very clear reason 13:01 But the healer's 5-10 apples are barely worth mentioning in that regard. 13:01 (and more fruits than healers) 13:01 And healer is a _hard_ role for new players. 13:02 true 13:08 DIED: wooble (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 6543 points, 5716 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hardfought 13:17 [nd] Rx (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12759 13:18 how do I get this canister unglued from my mouth in ZAPM? 13:18 DIED: knaveightt (Rog-Hum-Mal-Cha), 361 points, 600 turns, eaten by a Grue on hardfought 13:29 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 13:31 Well that sucks. 13:31 CHALLENGE IGNORED! Bugpowder ignored the ZAPM challenge. 13:31 Lost wish on 0:1 wand of wishing in castle due to ZAPM challenge interjection. Now cant get my charging scrolls :( 13:32 :/ 13:34 still wishless conduct tho 13:36 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 13:36 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 433 points, 305 turns, killed by a hobbit, while sleeping off a magical draught on hardfought 13:38 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 294 points, 387 turns, killed by an electric shock on hardfought 13:38 DIED: winny (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 372 points, 701 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted jackal on hardfought 13:40 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 33 points, 51 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought 13:42 jonadab: Thanks for the wonderful comments on that unhelpful advice thread! May I use them as rumors in slex? ;) 13:44 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1329 points, 2586 turns, killed by a housecat, while praying on hardfought 13:44 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 533 points, 523 turns, killed by a kitten on hardfought 13:48 LarienTelrunya: Heh. Knock yourself out. 13:48 yay! 13:49 I'll probably also add some stuff to that thread; gotta be careful to only add stuff that applies to vanilla :D 13:50 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 13:51 DIED: winny (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 147 points, 492 turns, killed by a poisonous corpse on hardfought 13:51 DIED: Eleven (Mon-Hum-Fem-Neu), 9116 points, 10691 turns, killed by a giant beetle on hardfought 13:54 DIED: winny (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 118 points, 272 turns, killed by a wand on hardfought 13:54 -!- khoR has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 13:55 -!- Bugpowder_ has joined #hardfought 13:55 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 13:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6] by ChanServ 13:55 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:55 -!- Bugpowder_ is now known as Bugpowder 13:59 LarienTelrunya: no, your unhelpful advice should be "play slex, it will give you lots of good experience that will help you do better in vanilla" :P 13:59 hahaha :D 14:01 DIED: firemonkey (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 2735 points, 2604 turns, killed by a giant spider on hardfought 14:02 -!- shpingrlde has joined #hardfought 14:02 i found a shield of reflection dlvl2 shop 14:03 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:05 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! wooble completed the Dig-Dug challenge. 14:10 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 14:12 so I was fighting some soldier ants 14:12 have 2 wands that make engravings vanish 14:12 getting low on health, zap one at the ants. nothing happens, it must be cancellation. 14:13 heal up enough to be safe, zap another at the ants, they vanish... but then "It bites! It stings!" 14:13 now I have invisible ants to deal with 14:13 -!- dave____ has joined #hardfought 14:15 DIED: Sorcerer (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 25 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought 14:16 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 5465 points, 3935 turns, killed by a bugbear on hardfought 14:17 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 56.0/20171006080225]] 14:18 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Sorcerer accepted the Pool challenge. 14:20 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! winny accepted the Pac-Man challenge. 14:20 wow, a ton of garter snakes spawned in the oracle room 14:20 lots of hiding items :) 14:23 including a magic lamp 14:23 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 14:24 [dnh] Thrak (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:51010 14:25 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! thisisdeuce completed the Pool challenge. 14:25 wow this run is great 14:25 already have reflection dlvl3, have identified a handful, cloak of protection, , fire,striking,frost,make invis, light wands, excalibur 14:26 DIED: firemonkey (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 352 points, 622 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 14:27 [dnh] Thrak (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:51091 14:29 DIED: firemonkey (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 185 points, 263 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 14:29 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 235 points, 268 turns, killed by a newt, while helpless on hardfought 14:29 DU. 14:33 [dnh] Thrak (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:51228 14:33 jonadab: "Always play as a human. That way you don't have to learn all the ins and outs of the various races. Humans are the most well-rounded race anyway, and they can be any role." good one 14:34 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Sorcerer accepted the Grue challenge. 14:34 aosdict: ouch lol 14:34