00:00 I'm a hell hound 00:00 no MR? 00:00 and I found the trap right before walking onto it 00:00 how about the magic resistance? 00:00 heh, apparently I can still kick doors down as a hell hound 00:01 obviously no MR 00:01 found a tattered cape, but can't ID it yet 00:01 Sometimes I swear door traps only occur on doors you don't check. 00:02 -!- Skeral has quit [Quit: *poof*] 00:02 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:02 Ninetale: I'm mostly bemoaning the loss of my apron as I don't have poison resistance yet either 00:03 Newt_, I swear most of the time when I find a door trap 00:03 or rather get hit with them 00:03 Haha! 00:04 once I got hit with a door trap after searching the door twice 00:04 F%&k 00:04 O_o 00:05 it was a door into a throne room of course 00:05 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! hjklyubn completed the ZAPM challenge. 00:05 ZAPM: hjklyubn the Jr. Programmer Activated the Bizarro Orgasmatron in the Mainframe at depth 16. [39365 points] 00:08 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Newt accepted the Waldo challenge. 00:12 -!- Guest94524 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:13 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! hjklyubn completed the Pac-Man challenge. 00:25 DIED: Bugpowder (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 826 points, 2313 turns, killed by a giant mimic on altorg 00:26 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1234 points, 1495 turns, killed by a hill orc on hardfought 00:33 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 110 points, 574 turns, killed by a black pudding on hardfought 00:36 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 110 points, 391 turns, killed by an incubus on hardfought 00:38 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 281 points, 179 turns, killed by a boulder on hardfought 00:41 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 00:43 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! aosdict completed the Pac-Man challenge. 00:46 ascension run start. 00:51 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2603 points, 1217 turns, killed by an orcish arrow on hardfought 00:55 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 112 points, 139 turns, fell into a pit on hardfought 00:55 does the bot announce when you fail a challenge? 00:56 may not 01:04 bug_sniper: no, because the challenge remains open until you succeed (even if it won't let you try again in the current game) 01:05 ...or ignore it via the website. 01:06 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 01:09 I see 01:10 wouldn't want to discourage anyone 01:13 it seems like the game goes forever 01:13 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 849 points, 1678 turns, killed by a burning potion of oil on hardfought 01:14 it is somewhat cruel that m-force on lawful character 01:14 !time 01:14 Ninetale: Thu Nov 2 01:14:36 2017 EDT 01:15 gremlin+water+polytrap ... crazy ... 01:19 [fh] MTF (mtf) (Sam Hum Mal Law) became the Hand of Elbereth, on T:28244 01:22 [fh] MTF (mtf) (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:28261 01:30 hmm 01:31 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! sluggoman completed the Grue challenge. 01:32 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:33 -!- stenno is now known as Guest3544 01:33 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1246 points, 2193 turns, killed by a gray ooze, while fainted from lack of food on hardfought 01:34 [nh] spline (Val Hum Fem Law), 19 points, T:115, killed by a sewer rat 01:35 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 129 points, 156 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hardfought 01:36 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:37 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 77 points, 197 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought 01:41 DIED: LOLIRIPE (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 66 points, 121 turns, killed by a fox on hardfought 01:45 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! spline accepted the Pool challenge. 01:47 -!- nht has joined #hardfought 01:57 -!- Guest3544 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:57 on the plane .. 01:58 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2487 points, 3252 turns, killed by a psychic blast on hardfought 02:19 done 02:19 ? 02:19 !lastgame ninetale 02:19 Ninetale: No last game for ninetale 02:20 ASCENDED: ninetale (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2623276 points, 28613 turns, ascended on altorg 02:20 https://e6.alt.org/userdata/n/ninetale/dn36/dumplog/1509523406.dn36.txt 02:20 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 02:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 02:20 TROPHY: ninetale now holds the "Who Wants to be a Killionaire?", Best Behaved Ascension, Highest Scored Ascension (aka the Berry), and Highest Scored Valkyrie 02:20 TROPHY: ninetale just earned the Dilithium Star 02:21 cool. 02:21 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:21 stenno hi 02:22 -!- stenno is now known as Guest96342 02:22 !lastgame ninetale 02:22 Ninetale: No last game for ninetale 02:22 hmm 02:22 Ninetale: You need &lastgme, to ask the other bot. Also the link was posted just under the announcement :) 02:23 oh thanks 02:23 &lastgame 02:23 https://e6.alt.org/userdata/n/ninetale/dn36/dumplog/1509523406.dn36.txt 02:36 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 02:38 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 4248 points, 7637 turns, poisoned by a rabid rat on hardfought 02:38 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 02:39 -!- Guest96342 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:40 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! Mandevil completed the Waldo challenge. 02:54 -!- NotTheOracle\dnt has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:54 -!- NotTheOracle\dnt has joined #hardfought 02:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v NotTheOracle\dnt] by K2 02:55 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:56 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:58 . 02:58 LarienTelrunya: Message from jonadab at 2017-10-31 19:53 EDT: If you can't ascend at least a quarter of the roles the game has, it's like you're not even trying. 02:58 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 02:58 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 02:58 aosdict: not more than vanilla monsters do 02:58 !tell jonadab If I had more time to play, I'd probably be able to ascend many more roles :P 02:58 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 03:18 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! flump accepted the Pac-Man challenge. 03:23 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:23 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:24 -!- stenno is now known as Guest65053 03:26 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 03:26 -!- Guest65053 has quit [Changing host] 03:26 -!- Guest65053 has joined #hardfought 03:27 -!- Guest65053 is now known as stenno 03:33 DIED: ninetale (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1600 points, 816 turns, killed by a dwarf on altorg 03:35 DIED: ninetale (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 8 points, 139 turns, killed by a jackal on altorg 03:35 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 512 points, 1689 turns, killed by a coyote on hdf-eu 03:39 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 430 points, 724 turns, killed by an invisible water demon on hdf-eu 03:39 TROPHY: Luxidream now holds the "Who Wants to be a Killionaire?", Highest Scored Ascension (aka the Berry), and Highest Scored Valkyrie 03:39 TROPHY: elenmirie now holds the Best Behaved Ascension 03:40 TROPHY: ninetale now holds the "Who Wants to be a Killionaire?", Best Behaved Ascension, Highest Scored Ascension (aka the Berry), and Highest Scored Valkyrie 03:40 TROPHY: ninetale just earned the Dilithium Star 03:41 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 109 points, 122 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted large mimic on hdf-eu 03:47 DIED: ninetale (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 548 points, 1000 turns, killed by a small mimic on altorg 03:49 -!- Webmant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:54 -!- StatueSurfer_ has joined #hardfought 03:55 QUIT: ninetale (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1090 points, 528 turns, quit on altorg 03:56 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 1784 points, 2286 turns, killed by a dog on hdf-eu 03:56 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 24 points, 74 turns, killed by a falling rock on hdf-eu 04:00 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 153 points, 224 turns, killed by a grid bug on hdf-eu 04:07 -!- dave____ has joined #hardfought 04:08 DIED: ninetale (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 633 points, 1185 turns, killed by a dwarf on altorg 04:08 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/205316704106971136/375498444183306240/unknown.png 04:08 this error 04:08 can go die in a fire 04:09 "The error resists!" 04:09 out of all errors nethack4/fiqhack has had 04:09 this one stands out 04:09 FIQ: what happens if you hit spacebar, enter or something like that? what option will it default to? 04:09 because it simply DOES NOT GO AWAY 04:09 did it just like happen? 04:10 for no reason? 04:10 hopefully it doesn't default to "leave the save file to be recovered 2 months later when kerio feels like it" :P 04:10 you are in the same spot as a monster? 04:10 LarienTelrunya: it will force you to choose a letter 04:10 StatueSurfer_: stenno: no 04:10 basically 04:10 FIQ: ah 04:10 when ais523 rewrote the AI 04:10 okay good it has a cause anyway 04:11 he changed how muxy are managed 04:11 so that instead of muxy being the same as the monster meaning "the monster doesn't know where you are" 04:11 it is rowno/colno 04:11 the first time I encountered such an error, it went away immediately since I apparently pressed R (I was in the middle of keystroke-intensive stuff and suddenly the error popped up and disappeared and then I had to bother kerio to fix it) 04:11 this assumption change 04:11 has brought upon us this error 04:11 whenever the old assumption is in place or similar 04:12 and it can happen 04:12 in a ton of cases 04:12 apparently 04:12 so until this is fixed don't blind monster, don't turn invisible, and don't use displacement? 04:12 this time it was a covetous monster 04:12 that caused it 04:13 oh gosh... 04:13 how? 04:13 StatueSurfer_: naw those cases is fixed 04:13 -!- khoR has joined #hardfought 04:13 oh i get it 04:13 ah 04:13 StatueSurfer_: I don't know, I need to check MTF's save to see why it happened 04:13 i guess the covetous monster couldn't warp to you or smth? 04:13 as said 04:13 I dunno 04:13 alright 04:13 it can be anything for all I know 04:14 Good morning sunshines. I hope everyone has a great and lovely day. <3 04:14 CHALLENGE IGNORED! chuggy ignored the Waldo challenge. 04:14 sometimes I'm tempted to just ignore muxy errors 04:14 but that will just hide bugs 04:14 hi khoR! 04:15 Hello FIQ. 04:15 Would that angel mount I forgot the name of be good for a pacifist run? 04:15 ki-rin 04:15 archons are better 04:15 but can't be mounted 04:15 dragons are better 04:15 pls 04:16 this is fiqhack 04:16 DIED: Tangles (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 383 points, 269 turns, killed by a giant bat on hdf-au 04:16 oh yeah they can breathe in your mod right 04:16 Really? 04:16 have you seen MTF's fiqhack knight stream 04:16 Dragons are better than ki-rins? 04:16 I guess for paci it is more arguable 04:16 but generally, dragons make superior mounts now 04:16 Don't ki-rins like... 04:17 Heal you and stuff? 04:17 i guess mount a black dragon and watch it blow crap up? 04:17 can't heal you if they're being ridden 04:17 StatueSurfer_: yep 04:17 they heal themselves 04:17 that is what MTF did 04:17 Can I ask why? 04:17 khoR: you think I should make it possible? 04:18 ki-rins are faster though 04:18 It depends on if they don't for a reason or is just a code limitation. 04:18 well... the player was never able to be ridden so I never coded it 04:18 Does a non ridden ki-rin heal you? 04:18 StatueSurfer_: fiqhack dragons are much stronger 04:18 khoR: yes 04:18 if they have the spell 04:18 Is there a reason riding it would make it so they cannoy? 04:18 khoR: they also haste you 04:18 cannot* 04:19 khoR: as said 04:19 it was simply because I never thought of implementing it 04:19 Yes, I don't mean code-wise. 04:19 I mean rpg wise. 04:19 I don't see a reason why I shouldn't 04:19 Then do. :D 04:19 same with speed monster 04:20 etc 04:20 Just make sure that if you don't ride a dragon he disintegrates you. :D 04:21 why would he do that 04:21 what 04:21 "You slip while trying to mount the black dragon. The dragon disintegrates you!" 04:21 sounds legit 04:22 i guess you based your dragons off GruntHack's dragons? 04:22 no 04:22 oh 04:22 i just saw that those dragons were buffed up 04:23 EPI: black dragons disintegrate on touch, which means that trying to saddle them disintegrates the saddle. 04:24 FIQ: It was just a joke with monsters using skills on players riding them. 04:24 they are 04:24 but in different ways to fiqhack 04:24 LarienTelrunya: If that is true, why does hitting them with your weapon not disintegrate the weapon? 04:24 fiqhack dragons are merely just faster 04:25 otherwise their *strength* is similar 04:25 but their AI is better 04:25 ah 04:25 like 04:25 i take it they now breathe while you're adjacent to them 04:25 they will try to stay in line 04:25 and spam their breath 04:25 and they can breathe when adjacant 04:25 and if they run out of breath 04:26 they will try to avoid melee initiative 04:26 DIED: nht (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 4495 points, 1708 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hdf-eu 04:26 khoR: well it would have to do that as well :D kinda like the disintegrator from unnethack 04:26 and will stay out of your own rays/etc 04:26 also 04:26 their breath can pierce reflection 04:26 Running away doenst sound very dragony. 04:26 similar to wand skill 04:27 LarienTelrunya: And also your armor if they hit you in melee. 04:27 khoR: they try to preserve their survival 04:27 they will not run away unless low on HP 04:27 and will only do so until HP is ok again 04:27 then they will continue pursuing you 04:27 khoR: Yeah, also like disintegrators. IIRC they would even go so far as to pick a random armor piece, and instakill you if you don't have it, so if it picks the glove slot and you didn't find gloves yet, DYWYPI? 04:28 That sounds bad. 04:28 CHALLENGE IGNORED! chuggy ignored the Grue challenge. 04:28 disintegrators are dumb 04:28 dynahack removed them 04:28 un still have them 04:28 It should make it so that you lose the limb and cannot use shields or two handed weapons. 04:28 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Disintegrator "If this selects a body part that is not covered by armor, you are disintegrated." 04:28 If it is the chest sure. 04:28 that would likely be too much of a hassle to program khoR h 04:28 this isn't IVAN 04:29 StatueSurfer_: Life is using force of will to get through hassles. 04:29 And it's usually worth it. 04:29 then you program it 04:29 I don't have time or will to do a nethack variant. 04:30 A couple of maps are enough for me. 04:30 :P 04:32 here's an idea i've been chewing on for my future mod: having certain monsters turn peaceful when you reach a certain level 04:33 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 04:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 04:33 StatueSurfer_: you should make it possible to displace peacefuls in your variant 04:33 I did it in fiqhack 04:33 makes them oh so much less annoying 04:33 yeah that'd be cool 04:36 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:36 i also want to add a feature where under certain circumstances some monsters are replaced by stronger ones 04:38 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 04:38 !tell Grasshopper au.hardfought.org 04:38 Will do, FIQ! 04:39 thanks FIQ - I tested the pings and they were good (~150ms), about 1/2 the pings I'm getting to hardfought central 04:39 Grasshopper: Message from FIQ at 2017-11-02 04:38 EDT: au.hardfought.org 04:40 but unf I started a game on main server before I saw that there was an au one 04:40 FIQ: The peaceful displacement works great. :D 04:40 Grasshopper: ahh 04:40 StatueSurfer_: I really like your first idea, not the second one though. 04:40 sorry then :p 04:40 btw I'm in Thailand - so getting better pings from Australia than from US east coast 04:40 why don't you like the second one 04:41 will play next devnull game on au.hardfought.org 04:42 StatueSurfer_: I feel like theres enough circumstances for you to fight strong monsters, and if those don't kill you throwing more of them will just be an annoyance instead of a challenge. 04:42 would be nice after tourney to look into bones sharing 04:42 so ahdf gets the same bones as hdf/ehdf 04:42 hmmm 04:43 StatueSurfer_: you're making a nethack variant? or just thinking about making one? I'd want to look at the code if you have a github repo :) 04:43 * LarienTelrunya is always looking for stuff to steal for her own variant 04:43 i haven't been able to start yet 04:43 steal this one: ovens 04:43 will it be based off 3.6 04:43 as sinks are to rings, so ovens are to potions 04:44 yes FIQ 04:44 because that would make it the 1st 3.6 variant 04:44 ovens can also set stuff on fire 04:45 heh, I've been thinking about adding a dungeon feature that can identify amulets, similar to how sinks can identify rings 04:46 what would cooking do to a corpse? increase the rot timeout? higher nutrition? better chance of getting intrinsics if it's a type that can convey them? 04:46 i'd give it lower nutrition, but prevent rot 04:46 or maybe just extend rot 04:48 welp gtg 04:48 -!- StatueSurfer_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:53 gotta charge a wand of digging 04:53 feels bad an 04:53 man 04:54 nice patch idea: add a few more sources of uncursed charging, so it doesn't feel like an utter waste to recharge common wands (compared to using blessed charging on valuable ones like death or wishing) 04:56 fiqhack has more sources of charging 05:00 DIED: Tangles (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 2599 points, 2030 turns, killed by an iguana on hdf-au 05:03 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 8458 points, 12212 turns, killed by a coyote, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 05:05 ASCENDED: Luxidream (Mon-Hum-Fem-Law), 705353 points, 50765 turns, ascended on hardfought 05:05 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/dn36/dumplog/1509588271.dn36.txt 05:06 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Tangles accepted the Waldo challenge. 05:06 TROPHY: Luxidream now holds the Grand Prize (Best of 13), Lowest Scored Ascension, "Who Wants to be a Killionaire?", Most Ascensions, and Highest Scored Monk 05:06 TROPHY: OrderOfTheCockatrice now holds the Best In Show 05:07 DIED: Tangles (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 564 points, 677 turns, killed by a giant bat on hdf-au 05:16 -!- Ninetale has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:16 -!- stenno has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:19 !tell FIQ does this work 05:19 Will do, FIQ! 05:19 . 05:19 FIQ: Message from FIQ at 2017-11-02 05:19 EDT: does this work 05:20 -!- FIQ is now known as FredrIQ 05:20 urgh that wont work 05:20 -!- FredrIQ is now known as FIQ 05:20 can someone mention fiqhack ? 05:20 I added highlight to it, want to see if it works 05:21 fiqhack 05:21 thanks 05:21 it works 05:21 now I don't need to grep my logs every now and then to see mentions of it, in case someone had a question about it/etc 05:22 add a highlight to gameoverhack too, I occasionally use that term ;) 05:22 I don't want to be highlighted whenever slex is mentioned 05:23 also, https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2192 is adorable :) 05:26 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! elenmirie completed the Waldo challenge. 05:32 DIED: Rex (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 7509 points, 4336 turns, killed by a minotaur on hdf-eu 05:32 LarienTelrunya: those bugs were actually both inherited from nethack4 05:33 (and one of them wasn't a bug at all but user error) 05:54 -!- Newt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:00 LarienTelrunya: slex webtiles when? 06:00 jonadab: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2017-11-02 02:58 EDT: If I had more time to play, I'd probably be able to ascend many more roles :P 06:01 jonadab: probably never, unless someone who has way too much time on their hands makes them 06:02 Also, https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/e6aaf6ffa1e016fd9608a120acc9f5cf626d850d :D 06:02 LarienTelrunya: What if I wrote a script that generates tiles at random? 06:03 heh, would anyone want to play a tiled version where it's impossible to recognize what a given tile is actually supposed to represent? 06:03 People play with the default tileset. 06:03 with ascii, you know that a purple h might be something dangerous; with fuzzy tiles all the monsters look mostly the same (to me anyway) 06:03 Most of the monsters in the default tileset are basically just little blobs of color. 06:12 lol 06:12 jonadab: just make a tileset for the sole purpose of having 256colors 06:17 DIED: bebing (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 9881 points, 9170 turns, eaten by a Grue on hardfought 06:18 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 861 points, 2395 turns, killed by a pony on hdf-eu 06:18 TROPHY: bebing just earned the Lead Star 06:21 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 06:21 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:22 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 06:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 06:23 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 197 points, 573 turns, killed by a small mimic on hdf-eu 06:27 aosdict: I was looking at my earlier MKoT PR 06:28 in the process, I found out which one of x/y starts at 1 in NH3 06:28 it is x 06:28 so you want 06:28 + for (x = 1; x < COLNO; x++) 06:28 + for (y = 0; y < ROWNO; y++) 06:29 DIED: bebing (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 637 points, 1402 turns, killed by a little dog on hardfought 06:31 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:33 FIQ: Heh, a tileset where each monster is a different-colored letter M, because M stands for monster? 06:33 nah, just "faketerm" but 256color instead of 16color 06:34 Ah. 06:36 LarienTelrunya: It's only November 2nd, you still have time to do NaTiDraMo with me. Draw a tileset during the month of November! 06:36 Uhh... I'd much rather participate in the devnull tournament 06:36 thanks for the invitation but I fear I have to decline ;) 06:37 BTW, have you seen the (beginnings of the) tileset I am drawing? http://jonadab.jumpingcrab.com/pastebin/916.png 06:38 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 2024 points, 2980 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 06:38 jonadab: this will be the last year of devnull 06:38 now or never 06:38 FIQ: I know. 06:38 jonadab: yeah you showed me that draft, I still remember saying that the weapon graphics look cute :) 06:38 Ah, right. 06:38 Now I also have traps. 06:39 Though I still have to do the pits. 06:39 s/do/figure out how to do/ 06:41 wtf, the traps are those pastel violet squares I guess? 06:42 jonadab: how pitiful 06:42 what are the ones that my mind interprets as "inflate horizontally" and "inflate vertically"? teleporters? 06:42 teleport trap and levelporter, yes. 06:44 Also, that's pastel magenta. The set also has a pastel violet (and a pastel indigo). 06:44 No, wait. 06:45 That is pastel violet. 06:45 Nevermind, I looked at it wrong. 06:45 Pastel magenta is like the magic missile rays. 06:45 Which are right after the traps. 06:45 (Pastel indigo is like the sleep rays.) 06:46 is this going to be called the "pastel colors tileset"? 06:46 I've tentatively named it "fmob", which stands for "flat mono on black" 06:46 these tiles are really hard to make out in a browser that makes transparent white/gray squares 06:47 FIQ: Ah, I'd intended them for use on dark backgrounds (all the terrains are going to be dark-ish). 06:47 yeah 06:47 I figured 06:47 LarienTelrunya: The monsters are really more neon than pastel. 06:48 And then there's the items. Not sure how to describe those shades. They're less saturated. 06:48 what are the single-color windows logos? 06:48 ah, I see 06:48 Dragon scales 06:48 ah 06:48 this tileset is rather abstract in general 06:48 gonna be afk for a while now 06:48 like ascii 06:48 FIQ: Yes. 06:50 I'm not sure if the colors used for black monsters and black items are going to show up well enough on the dark backgrounds; but if I decide not, I can just adjust the numbers on the palette entries, and not need to change the actual images at all. 06:50 Also, I think the translucent colors may be _too_ translucent (currently: 50%). 07:00 Incidentally, if you do a Google images search for mimic, most of the relevant results are chests with teeth; many of them also have a large tongue lolling out. Further, a disturbing number of them also have a scantily clad female sitting in the open maw of the monster, looking far less distressed than would be expected for a person in such a situation. 07:00 jonadab: This is not unique to mimics 07:00 Ah, is that a general phenomon with any random monster you look for? 07:00 Google (and especially Bing) search results are always like that 07:00 Ah. 07:00 No 07:00 I see. 07:00 It is a general phenomon with *everything* 07:01 Right. 07:01 That does actually make a perverse kind of sense. 07:01 http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheInternetIsForPorn 07:01 http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleThirtyFour?from=Main.Rule34 07:01 THIS IS WHY 07:01 err, -caps 07:02 jonadab: Have you not realized this earlier? 07:02 In general, yes, but for some reason when I went looking for pictures of an obscure type of monster I didn't expect it to apply. 07:02 I'm so used to seeing that kind of google results and similar that I just filter it out unconsciously 07:02 DIED: zaga (Cav-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1089 points, 1890 turns, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a potion on hardfought 07:02 Not sure why I didn't. 07:03 jonadab: Mimics aren't that obscure, though 07:03 Well, not like zruty. 07:03 THAT is obscure. 07:03 yeah 07:03 DIED: zaga (Cav-Hum-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 6 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hardfought 07:03 inb4 picture of scantily clad female zruty 07:03 Wouldn't surprise me 07:04 I don't really want to confirm 07:04 LarienTelrunya: tileset concept, go: every monster is female and scantily clad. 07:04 Scantily clad female zombie, scantily clad female werewolf, scantily clad female mummy, scantily clad female warg, ... 07:04 the rule34 tileset 07:05 Scantily clad female gelatinous cube, I mean, why not. 07:05