00:13 I need to investigate if there are any dark wiki themes around. Want to be able to edit late at night without blasting myself with white light. 00:17 00:17 I think this will be good for the demigod bar 00:19 Alas thou shalt beat my highscore 00:30 [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:29464 00:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 00:42 [dnh] Tarmunora (Ana Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed bag of holding named 44160000 points", on T:48140 00:43 -!- lorimer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:44 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 00:49 -!- Jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 01:26 [dnh] Tarmunora (Ana Dro Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:50505 01:29 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Disconnected] 01:35 [dnh] Tarmunora (Ana Dro Fem Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:50766 01:37 So 01:37 He died easily 01:42 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 01:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 01:44 [dnh] Tarmunora (Ana Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:51319 02:02 [fh] FIQ x FIQ selfship (Luxidream) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:9734 02:03 What do you want to use or apply? [box or ?*] 02:03 ... I don't have a box! only a sack 02:06 [nd] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a red naga hatchling, on T:3294 02:08 grr. 02:08 trap door + poly trap 02:11 [dnh] Tarmunora (Ana Dro Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:53066 02:17 RIP alider 02:17 You will be missed 02:21 !lotg Tarmunora__ 02:21 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, Tarmunora__! 02:21 Thanks! 02:21 Here's to not dying on astral! 02:22 !booze Tarmunora__ 02:22 * Beholder passes Tarmunora__ a schooner of grappa, replicated by Announcy at -6 degrees Celsius. 02:22 cheers 02:22 [dnh] Tarmunora (Ana Dro Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed figurine of a Surya Deva", on T:53545 02:22 @dn?surya deva 02:22 @dnh?surya deva 02:22 @d?surya deva 02:22 Dang 02:22 No such monster. 02:22 Peaceful only :/ 02:23 Surya Devas are neutral angels 02:23 too bad I can't watch because I don't know what encoding to translate 02:23 With decent weapon attacks, mass healing, a deadly arrow attack (+57 silver arrow), and a 'pet' with nice attacks as well 02:23 cp437 02:24 I could switch to unicode if you'd rather 02:25 actually, it's your screen size that was the problem 02:25 Ah 02:25 I had to shrink the font to 8 point to see anything 02:26 now your screen is even bigger 02:26 [dnh] Tarmunora (Ana Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Pestilence, on T:53572 02:27 and I can't see the stuff even at 8 points now 02:28 [dnh] Tarmunora (Ana Dro Fem Cha) killed the priestess of Ilsensine, on T:53605 02:29 Pew pew 02:30 ... I have made a TERRIBLE mistake 02:30 I just destroyed my gun 02:30 My only gun 02:32 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:34 [dnh] Tarmunora (Ana Dro Fem Cha) wished for "magic chest", on T:53793 02:35 [fh] FIQ x FIQ selfship (Luxidream) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) became the Envoy of Balance, on T:13523 02:39 [dnh] Tarmunora (Ana Dro Fem Cha), 9481808 points, T:53912, ascended, having saved the future https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tarmunora/dnethack/dumplog/1504043020.dnh.txt 02:40 Gah! Magicite crystals don't count for points? 02:40 Hmph 02:41 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 02:45 So much for a 50,000,000 highscore 02:46 The bag of thousands of gemstones was for nothing, as they don't count for score 02:47 [fh] MTF (mtf) (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 58694 points, T:23278, wiped out by a blessed scroll of genocide 02:51 FIQ, did you let a ronin read another scroll of genocide there? 02:51 who is MTF? 02:57 -!- hf_guest_6023 has joined #hardfought 02:57 -!- hf_guest_6023 has left #hardfought 02:57 -!- MTF has joined #hardfought 02:59 damn, nobody saw that death right? =P 03:02 [fh] MTF (mtf) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 95772 points, T:26245, quit 03:09 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:22 [fh] FIQ x FIQ selfship (Luxidream) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) averted death, on T:17856 03:56 MTF, no but I wish I did 06:49 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 07:01 [nd] elagabalus (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 1166 points, T:1974, killed by a giant bat 07:05 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:24 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:24 -!- bhaak has joined #hardfought 07:26 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 07:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 07:39 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:40 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 08:06 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 08:10 [dnh] Thrak (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:40941 08:22 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:46 MTF: what happened 08:46 with geno 08:48 NeroOneTrueKing: dnh has a ton of dmonsfree errors 09:04 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 09:09 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:31 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:33 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 09:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 09:52 [dnh] Thrak (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:41687 09:54 [dnh] Thrak (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:41729 09:56 [dnh] Thrak (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:41864 09:58 [dnh] Thrak (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:41957 09:59 [dnh] Thrak (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) killed Garland, on T:42004 09:59 [dnh] Thrak (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) destroyed Chaos, on T:42027 10:11 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:11 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 10:13 !tell K2 pushed a fix 10:13 Will do, FIQ! 10:17 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:17 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 10:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v theRaisse] by ChanServ 10:21 -!- Porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:32 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 10:32 ooh elenmirie bones 10:32 at least, cat called Coco 10:33 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 10:35 Hanako's ghost, elagabalus' ghost, no sign of elenmirie's ghost 10:35 one of them must have picked up elenmirie's cat 10:35 elagabalus is my evil twin ;) 10:35 oh right 10:35 because I have a conduct monk in the castle that I'm not wanting to continue right now 10:36 well, your cat is now fighting your ghost 10:36 s/your cat/my cat/ 10:39 argh, died on the next level (which is most probably orctown) 10:39 not wanting to continue was why I was playing Hanako 10:39 didn't want to do the planes on Fri 13th 10:40 (then ascended the gnome wiz on Sat 14th) 10:40 and left the cats and most of the stuff on the previous level, too 10:47 !time 10:47 Grasshopper: Sun Oct 15 10:47:04 2017 EDT 10:47 nice, daytime 10:47 I keep forgetting that hardfought is not UTC 10:53 11 hours behind me 10:57 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:10 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 11:10 FIQ: I finally reproduced a dmonsfree error so it could be fixed. Although they're common, I don't know what triggers most of them 11:11 use gdb and breakpoint on m_detach 11:12 oh wait, using the NH3 save system this wont work 11:17 until you have a place where you can repro it 11:18 NeroOneTrueKing: ok I have an idea 11:18 make a new monster flag (you don't need to care about saving it) when debugging 11:18 set it in m_detach right before purge_monsters++ 11:18 if it was already set 11:19 print some error you will recognize, and then win_pause_output(P_MAP) 11:19 that will allow you to hook up gdb and see when it happened 11:20 with a stacktrace 11:21 Seems interesting 11:22 make sure you have compiled dnethack with debugging symbols 11:22 for gdb to be useful 11:23 I'll do this if I come across a bug I think I can reproduce but can't find, thanks 11:25 you can do it regardless 11:25 it means that on each impending dmonsfree 11:25 there will be an error you can look at 11:25 *impending dmonsfree error 11:25 I almost exclusively play on the server now 11:25 ahh 11:26 My 'debugging method' is play until something hits an error and if I can make a guess as to why, I try to reproduce it offline in wizard mode 11:26 It's not as effective as yours, for sure 11:28 NH4 saves are great 11:28 can reproduce pretty much everything 100% realibly 11:28 reproduction is pretty much never an issue, ever 11:29 [nd] munterplant (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:6261 11:29 That would be nice :) 11:30 Just port dNetHack to NH4 :P 11:30 or you could mkae dFIQHack! :P 11:31 which, BTW, would be awesome and I would play the heck out of it 11:32 YASI: port ALL the variants into the same engine 11:32 Nice Dnethack new mine's end with orcs 11:33 khoR_: ^ 11:34 It's the best one, both in loot and flavour 11:37 maybe that's where the orcs originated 11:37 and eventually took over frontier town to become orctown 11:37 lol 11:48 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:02 [fh] FIQ x FIQ selfship (Luxidream) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 speed boots", on T:25215 12:07 interesting character name there 12:24 [nd] munterplant (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:6300 12:24 YANI: digging up a grave gives you an alignment penalty if you are a Priest as well as an Archeologist. 12:43 YANI: if an undead is sleeping and you manually light up its square, it wakes up. 12:52 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 13:00 NeroOneTrueKing: mess with firework carts 13:00 aosdict: one of Luxidream's other names in FIQHack has been "what if FIQ is actually grill" 13:00 so yeah, he seems to like those kind of names 13:01 is that a reference to the "person is kill" stuff? 13:02 grill is generally internet slang for "girl" 13:02 oh 13:03 I knew about gril 13:03 not grill 13:03 seems confusing 13:21 -!- Jendic has joined #hardfought 13:32 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:32 slang is always confusing if you aren't part of the demographic. 13:35 actually made some progress on quest level redesigns today :) 13:36 :) 13:38 Oh, good. 13:38 That's needed. 13:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 13:39 made it to Ranger... thinking I might just say khoR_'s is good enough for home, and the algorithm jonadab has been using is good enough for filler levels 13:40 I think the Cave of the Wumpus should be kept, but it should be going _through_ the cave, not _into_ it. 13:40 aosdict: btw 13:41 it would be cool if you could squeeze out a line from the levels using the last one 13:41 because not a whole lot of levels use that last line 13:41 barely any do 13:42 I have a list somewhere. 13:42 Of levels that I still need to squeeze a line out of for ais523's "reduce ROWNO by 1" proposal to be viable. 13:42 you mean a line of the map? 13:43 Given how few levels this concerns, I consider it a good idea 13:43 yes 13:44 so that would be full-level maps that use... 22 lines? 13:45 no 13:45 currently they are 79x21 13:45 it would be nice if it was 79x20 13:47 what happens to maps that use 20 lines? 13:47 just get a line of . appended to the bottom? 13:49 ??? 13:50 aosdict: Only very few levels actually use the 21st line 13:51 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:51 FIQ: so those maps are simply one line smaller? 13:54 yes 13:54 huh, I guess it's easy not to notice that 13:55 The original motivation was, ais wants to ensure that three-line status area works on 80x24. Which IMO is silly because 80x24 is unplayable anyway due to one-line message area being literally the devil. 13:56 But whatever. 13:56 FIQ: anyway, that would be on my backburner if I wanted to do it 13:57 well you are redesigning levels anyway... 13:57 hence the suggestion 13:58 ass ass ass ass ass. I cannot yet manage to have a dnethack game without some random useless artifact just appearing before I've managed to wish something useful 13:58 Porkman: I thought dnethack let you wish for whatever artifact you wanted at least once? 13:59 I didn't know that. But still, makes it harder to get two or three artiwishes 14:00 FIQ: at the moment it's just broad-strokes design. Not making any des file edits until I get some feedback 14:01 Porkman: I may be wrong. I have never played dnethack. 14:12 Porkman: Only artiwishing affects further artiwishing 14:12 So you get 2 freebies 14:14 Oh, really? 14:14 That's brilliant 14:24 hmm 14:24 I should perhaps make it a junethack trophy to have Rodney genocided :P 14:25 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 14:28 I love the guaranteed BOH in the anachrononaut quest 14:29 FIQ: huh, I thought he was ungenocideable. 14:30 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:30 I guess it's possible in fiqhack 14:31 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:31 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 14:38 -!- Tarmunora__ is now known as Tarmunora 14:38 I love magic chests 14:39 Porkman: Yeah, only wished arts count against wishing, and only wished+gifted count against gifting 14:40 aosdict: Rodney can genocide himself 14:40 if confused 14:40 FIQ: is that how it works in fiqhack, or did you make wishing and gifting completely separate? 14:40 aosdict: What do you mean? I was talking about dNetHack 14:40 Allthough FIQHack has a similar change 14:41 FIQHack tracks how artifacts are generated 14:41 Yes, how does fiqhack do wishing/gifting odds? I know it's not identical to dnethack 14:41 either randomly, in bones pools, in artigifting, in artiwishing 14:41 And artiwishing and gifting use their own counters for how likely it is to be gifted an arti 14:42 Artiwishing was however nerfed to compensate 14:42 it now only gives 1 freebie 14:42 1/x rather than 2/x chance 14:42 where x = number of wished-for artis 14:43 mhm 14:43 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:48 hm, so 100%, 50%, 33%, 25%, etc 14:49 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 14:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 14:54 Porkman: dNethack still gives 2 freebies 14:55 so 100, 100, 50, 33, etc 14:55 Or something 14:55 -!- Jendic has quit [Quit: *poof*] 14:55 Er, 100, 100, 66, 50, etc 15:03 sounds nice 15:03 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1302 15:03 oh? it speaks? 15:03 what server is this on? 15:06 Another question.. I read crystal platemails in Dnethack hold double the enchantment? 15:07 is it that they can go all the way to +14, or... 15:07 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:13 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 15:14 This channel relates to the hardfought.org server, see the /topic 15:22 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1763 15:23 -!- honu has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:24 -!- honu has joined #hardfought 15:33 CPM in dnh gets double bonus from enchantment. (2 AC per point) 15:36 used to be that it could be enchanted up to +14 15:37 but people kept polypiling CPM for insane AC 15:37 so it was changed :P 15:46 well yeah 15:46 I can haz enchantz it to +14? Letz me makez dat into a full setz of something elsez! 15:48 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Mal Neu) was given Soulmirror, on T:3592 15:50 +14 t-shirt, +14 dwarvish cloak, +14 small shield, ... The problem with this is, none of them will be artifacts, and this is dnethack. 15:57 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Mal Neu), 37659 points, T:4106, killed by a mumak 15:57 @d? mumak 15:57 mumak (q) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Attacks: 4d12 butt physical, 2d6 bite physical | Alignment: -2 | Flags: genocidable, herbivore, thick hide, infravisible 16:04 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 16:08 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1322 16:12 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Fem Neu) was given Soulmirror, on T:1692 16:17 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Fem Neu) was given Ogresmasher, on T:2216 16:19 [fh] MTF Must Die (Luxidream) (Tou Hum Mal Neu) became the Envoy of Balance, on T:29549 16:24 I think maybe Luxidream has a vendetta 16:26 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 16:26 tarmunora: congrats on your asc btw 16:26 Thanks 16:26 Sadly, I did't get the ~100,000,00 points I was hoping for 16:26 *100,000,000 16:27 RIP 16:27 what's soulmirror do? 16:27 Because magicite crystals don't count for points :( 16:27 is it just reflection granting mithril plate? 16:27 Mithril plate, gives reflection & drain resistance 16:27 ah cool 16:27 Honestly a solid armour for most of the game 16:27 yeah I see the drli(0,0) 16:27 ye 16:27 adding to wiki cuz I had no clue what it was 16:28 is it the tourist first gift? 16:28 or did you just get lucky twice 16:29 'lucky' twice 16:29 hm ok 16:32 how hard is demogorgon for a character like yours? 16:33 My current one? impossible 16:33 The one that ascended, EZPZ 16:34 ...once I put on my bodyglove 16:34 will it be impossible teh whole time? or just atm 16:34 lol 16:34 Honestly, it depends 16:34 so his main problem is the sickness? not the shredding? 16:34 Artifact cloak resists shredding pretty well 16:34 And also cursing the BFG meant I could full-auto him to death in short order 16:35 ah 16:35 7-9 silver bullets to the face per turn is a TON of damage to a demon 16:35 why does cursing mean that? 16:36 Filth makes you drop your weapon 16:36 Unless it's cursed 16:36 ah I didn't realize he cast filth too 16:36 I thought that was a lamashtu special 16:36 The first time I fought him, I didn't have bodyglove or cursed BFG 16:36 and I didn't realize he even cast 16:36 @d?demogorgon 16:36 Demogorgon (&) | Lvl: 108 | Diff: 61 | Spd: 18 | Res: fire poison acid petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 95 | Generates: unique | AC: -26 | Attacks: 3d12 claw disease, 3d12 claw disease, 1d1 gaze level drain, 1d1 gaze paralyze, 1d12 cast spell, 1d12 cast spell | Alignment: -20 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, covetous, infravisible 16:36 TIL 16:36 So I had to run, burning a number of "oLS 16:36 ah 16:36 so he's easy with OP characters, hard for non-OP characters 16:36 Second time I ROFLstomped him 16:40 ooh, nice 16:41 the random minetown tool was a magic chest 16:41 He's easy for a *prepared* OP character. 16:41 near the downstairs in the grotto version 16:41 nero: ah, ok. are there any useful polyforms that are sickness resistant? 16:41 An unprepared OP character dies as quickly as an unprepared 'normal' character 16:41 Clockrwokr 16:41 *Clockwork 16:41 is that polyable? 16:41 Yes 16:41 huh cool 16:41 *Clockwork Automaton 16:41 You can also wear green dragon scales (shield/mail) 16:42 Or chromatic iirc 16:42 TIL 16:42 didn't realize green did that 16:42 Yes, chromatic works as well, but is harder to acquire 16:42 I love ogresmasher 16:42 ...said no one ever in vanilla 16:42 could use a buff to make it more useful as a weapon tho 16:43 for non-tourists at least 16:43 or valks 16:43 The 25 con is HUGE 16:43 god damn tarmunora 16:43 your terminal so huge 16:43 I just went from 37 to 93 max hp 16:43 what 16:43 uh 16:43 that seems OP 16:43 how? level up? 16:43 HP from con is retroactive 16:43 or does it just trigger whever 16:43 TIL 16:44 that does seem OP 16:44 So going from 14 to 25 is massive 16:45 I'd be in favour of making stat-boosters more incremental, like <+enchantment> 16:45 iirc slex works like that with GoP 16:46 huh another random magic chest 16:46 doing that stuff with STR is trickier 16:46 was the prob changed for that? 16:47 but for DEX (premium heart) and CON (ogresmasher) they shouldn't be stat-spikes like they are 16:47 Honestly, dnh could probably cut the 18/xx stuff 16:47 -!- Jonathanhanes_ has joined #hardfought 16:47 And make STR like all the other stats 16:50 -!- Jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:50 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Fem Neu) was given Quicksilver, on T:2918 16:50 Huh 16:51 Shame I only get basic in flail 16:51 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:53 I think C/K rations are bugged 16:53 they do'nt seem to give _any_ nutrition for vegans 16:54 I just got hungry, and I ate 2 (1 C and 1 K) and got nothing 16:54 but a fortune cookie gave enough nutrition 16:54 Hmm 16:54 not the first time that's happened either 16:55 looks like it gives 1/4 nutrition 16:56 but that's all 16:58 hm 16:59 how much should they give? 16:59 K - 400 16:59 C - 300 16:59 before dividing by four 17:00 for reference, food ration - 800 17:00 You read: "k2, killed by a bolt of lightning" 17:00 and fortune cookie - 40 17:01 hm ok 17:01 yeah 3 of them gave me some food 17:01 not much still though 17:12 k2 has all the best bones files, lol 17:12 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:13 jonadab: YASI: wherever the string "for" appears in Fourk 17:13 , replace it with "four". 17:13 fource bolts, fourtune cookies, etc 17:13 [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:30588 17:13 #fource 17:16 [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:30727 17:19 [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed the elder priestess of Moloch, on T:30851 17:30 [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed potions of polymorph", on T:31234 17:30 v - 165 blessed scrolls of identify 17:31 alas, I was hoping for something more interesting 17:31 may the 4ce be with you 17:39 at least you don't have to worry about amnesia ever again? 17:48 CHARGE! 17:49 [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:32234 17:49 !lotg NeroOneTrueKing 17:49 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, NeroOneTrueKing! 17:49 [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) escaped by accident, on T:32234 17:49 ... 17:49 Oh 17:49 Heh 17:50 aosdict: :D 17:52 YANI: if the player has ever handled the Amulet of Yendor, give them a once-off warning if they try to climb the stairs on DL1 without the Amulet in possession 17:53 You do get a warning if you try to go up without it. 17:54 "Beware there will be no return. Still climb? [y/n]" 17:54 *"Beware, ..." 17:55 Well, that warning applies even if you have the Amulet. 17:56 Right, right 17:56 Maybe change the message if you do have the true amulet, then. 17:57 Mmm. Random throne wish 17:58 Now that I think about it, the flavor seems wrong if your god is not doing all he/she can to get you through the Planes alive. 17:58 Random divine smiting every time an enemy hits you? 17:58 Smiting directed at your attacker, of course 17:59 haha, that would make them a breeze 17:59 Random as in, it would only sometimes happen :P 18:00 "The earth elemental hits! You feel that Tyr is displeased with the earth elemental." 18:00 YANI: if you don't kill the wizard within 2 turns of him appearing on the plane of earth, your deity zaps him with a wide-angle disintegration beam 18:01 I got to thinking this because I was thinking about the text that prints 18:01 [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) destroyed Death, on T:32507 18:01 But now thou must face the final Test... Prove thyself worthy or perish! 18:01 Like, dude, you do want to get this Amulet, right? 18:01 He can't interfere on the Astral Plane 18:02 Beyond sending angelic help 18:02 The astral plane: where gods go to die 18:02 I imagine his power must be limited on all the Planes. 18:02 Otherwise he'd levelport you right up to Astral. 18:02 Since there are two other deities that would like that amulet, why don't they smite you and have one of their priests bring them the amulet? 18:05 Godly power balance, probably. 18:06 Why doesn't the Elder Priest just offer the amulet to Moloch? 18:06 I mean, he's right there 18:08 [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) destroyed Pestilence, on T:32552 18:09 [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed the invisible priestess of Ilsensine, on T:32568 18:11 [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) destroyed Famine, on T:32598 18:14 [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Ana Dwa Fem Cha), 8682928 points, T:32626, ascended, having saved the future https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NeroOneTrueKing/dnethack/dumplog/1504456312.dnh.txt 18:15 So the flavor would work if it were "Prove thyself worthy, because I can do no more for you" 18:15 But in that case, Planes prayer shouldn't work. Which it probably shouldn't. 18:16 Tarmunora: isn't it that having dominion over the Amulet of Yendor is basically equivalent to the high priest carrying it near the high altar? 18:16 I mean, you don't have to beat up Moloch and take the amulet yourself. 18:17 YANI: when you kill the high priest, Moloch shows up, with the amulet, and you do have to beat him up to take it. 18:18 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 18:19 how useless is release from care as a monk? 18:19 I can reach expert in that, but that's not the same as grandmaster w/ double-weaponing 18:19 though I guess 1 GM fist and 1 expert vorpal scythe is good 18:21 aosdict: YASI: gods, both your own and the others, mess around with you in endgame 18:21 define "mess around" 18:22 sending minions after you/smiting said minions, smiting you/protecting you, etc 18:22 hm 18:22 for bonus stupid 18:22 make it only for atheists 18:29 yes! 18:29 "you think we do'nt exist? you still sure about that?" 18:32 !who 18:32 FIQ: NeroOneTrueKing [dnh] Tarmunora [dnh] rikersan [dnh] Luxidream [fh] flump [fh] Grasshopper [nd] 18:32 is the record still 7? 18:33 no 18:33 record is 15 18:33 there was 7 a few minutes ago 18:34 aosdict: 15 was during junethack 18:34 crazy amount of people playing here back then 18:48 !who 18:48 Tarmunora: Tarmunora [dnh] rikersan [dnh] Luxidream [fh] flump [fh] Grasshopper [nd] 18:48 !whereis rikersan 18:48 Tarmunora: rikersan [dnh]: (Mon Hlf Mal Neu) T:9632 The Dungeons of Doom level: 11 18:49 !who 18:49 FIQ: Tarmunora [dnh] rikersan [dnh] Luxidream [fh] NeroOneTrueKing [fh] flump [fh] Grasshopper [nd] 18:49 mhm 18:49 tarmunora: how good is release from care 18:50 as monk 18:50 Uh 18:50 Bad 18:50 it's rusty +0 atm 18:50 hm ok 18:50 !role fh 18:50 NeroOneTrueKing: healer 18:50 vorpal is still not good? 18:50 !role fh 18:50 NeroOneTrueKing: tourist 18:50 I'm enjoying it oneshotting this stupid troll 18:50 OOH 18:50 THE TROLL HAS OGRESMASHER 18:51 ooooo 18:51 i found a bug in dnethack 18:51 what is it? 18:51 there are many 18:52 you can totally abuse a hypospray 18:52 Known 18:53 (but also, hyposprays of healing don't raise your HP max like potions should) 18:53 that is not a bug 18:53 I think that part is intentional 18:53 well yes, probably not a bug 18:53 you can recharge ampules, can't you? 18:54 I'm not entirely sure.. 18:54 tarmunora: i see what you mean about ogresmasher, it goves from 67 to 151 from me 18:54 :D 18:54 but you can inject yourself even with empty ones 18:54 You cannot charge hypospray ampules 18:54 ...but you don't need to! 18:55 The infinite ampuole is a bug and is on the queue for fixing 18:55 yes but when that's patched 18:55 A gain ability ampoule (-67 doses) 18:55 Do keep mentioning bugs as you encounter them, please 18:55 I also crashed somehow on quest home level 18:56 rikersan: hahahaha did it really have ogresmasher 18:56 the ultimate troll 18:56 yes 18:56 "The troll wields Ogresmasher!" 18:57 Sadly dnethack isn't FIQHack, and experiencing a crash and having the save isn't enough information to find and fix a bug 18:58 porkman: role/race 18:58 yeah that is really nice 18:58 Porkman is ana/inc 18:58 "I have a bug" "k2 give me the save" *gets save* "ok, I have the bug, I'll fix it" *fixed shortly after* 18:58 much smoother 19:00 tfw one shop has 5 mimics 19:00 1 small and 1 giant 19:00 dNethack is 9 months of idea generation, 2 months of frantic implementation, and 1 month of bugfixes 19:00 Alternatively: "Weird I crashed when throwing Mjollnir while blind". Cue further testing in wizard mode with throwing random artifacts upwards. 19:00 nope 6, 2 small 19:01 nero: "weird I died when throwing a spoon named "Houchou" upwards" 19:01 haha 19:02 dnetack is awesome 19:02 yes 19:02 The Lady was kind to me this game. Soulmirror, Ogresmasher, and then Quicksilver 19:02 And K2' 19:02 *K2's wizard gave me magicbane 19:03 It's my favourite variant, as anyone who's listened to me for any amount of time can tell :) 19:04 whee, conflict and free action rings :D 19:04 again: k2 has best bones files 19:04 I've gotten a cloak of MR, spellbook of identify, and iirc extra healing before 19:04 ...there are other varients? \s 19:05 you don't remember SLEX? 19:05 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:5424 19:08 NeroOneTrueKing: hard to miss :) 19:08 btw, if you're playing FIQHack, consider using a bigger terminal 19:08 works great 19:09 How much larger? 19:09 er, as in, wider 19:09 for the sidebar 19:09 which is good stuff 19:09 look at flump 19:09 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:5686 19:09 for what I mean 19:10 yeah like that :P 19:12 I prefer having larger characters 19:12 Ahh 19:13 btw I am having rendering errors upon watching you, I assume they don't happen for you or you'd complain about it 19:13 not sure why it happens though 19:13 oh well 19:13 I'm not aware of any rendering errors. Are they obvious? 19:13 [fh] FUCCHACK (Luxidream) (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the ghost of MTF, the former Priest, on T:11952 19:14 NeroOneTrueKing: Yeah, so I guess you don't see them 19:14 it's fine, just wondered if you were seeing them too 19:16 a long sword named Fire Brand for only 17 zorkimids? 19:16 Probably an encoding issue, I'd guess 19:17 I'd guess Nero is using IBMgraphics & cp437 on his end 19:17 yes 19:18 wait what? 19:18 why is a long sword named Fire Brand a comestible??? 19:19 ... 19:19 are these fruit names randomized? 19:19 because that was mean 19:19 bones level it sounds like 19:19 fruit names work just like vanilla 19:19 just someone being a troll 19:19 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2116 19:20 hahaha 19:20 that was mine 19:20 Well, they succeeded in tricking me into buying a fruit :D 19:20 sorry 19:20 I didn't anticipate trolling people with it, though 19:21 oh, I've done similar things like "wishing pill" 19:22 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:23 -!- honu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:32 [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:32800 19:51 -!- tacco| has quit [] 19:55 who has "edible bra" as a fruit? 19:55 I've seen that twice 19:55 one was a samurai who died on the big room upstair, the other a binder who apparently died inside a wall in minetown 19:56 did they not leave a ghost to tell you? 19:57 nope 19:57 I think it was killed 19:57 iirc ghosts qualify as "kill on sight" undead 19:58 w/ the dnethack patch that living attack non-living 19:58 undead-living grudges are fun 19:58 ye 19:58 see: nazgul vs shopkeeper 19:58 that lasted a while 19:59 tbh, maybe ghosts should not count as undead. They're just dead. 20:03 however, the spawning mechanisms need a refurbishment since they'll happily spawn undead at an X% rate and let the dungeon consistently tear itself apart 20:04 Zombies aren't infectious enough (at all? I forget) to overtake a level 20:06 are you talking about FIQHack or dNetHack now 20:06 dnethack 20:07 ah 20:07 the whole derived undead thing is still new and fragile 20:07 ah 20:07 FIQHack zombies are infectious 20:07 but in FIQHack, only zombies grudge living and vice versa 20:07 not undead in general 20:07 because it became too much 20:08 mostly with respect towards liches 20:08 mummies don't? 20:08 no 20:08 maybe I should add mummies too 20:08 oh boy liches vs everything else 20:08 I do wonder how the heck I managed to still be alive without poison res 20:09 dnethack doesn't have instakill poison 20:09 (generally) 20:09 amusingly I think FIQHack ended up managing to create better necromancy than SLASH'EM without even having the role, but I have an obvious bias :P 20:09 mostly due to tame zombie mechanics 20:10 SLASH'EM's necromancer was so tedious to play 20:10 because zombies took so long to follow you around 20:10 in FIQHack, tame zombies resurrect corpses as other tame zombies and/or enslaved creatures 20:11 so you can create an undead army that way 20:11 do they have to be fresh corpses? 20:11 no 20:11 The 'resurrecting corpses' bit is a bit evil 20:12 NeroOneTrueKing: it is toned down to 10% of the time if it was from a previously resurrected corpse 20:12 to avoid loops 20:12 so you don't have to kill everything 20 times 20:12 It certainly makes spamming create monster on an altar a more dangerous experience 20:12 heh 20:13 I have the best bones filves. believe me. no was has better bones files than me 20:13 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-10-15 10:13 EDT: pushed a fix 20:13 The enslaved black dragon hits! 20:13 NeroOneTrueKing: heh 20:13 Someone should come up with a priest friendly artifact "holy water well" potion or tool of sorts 20:13 NeroOneTrueKing: have you met FIQHack dragons yet :D 20:13 yep 20:14 They're fairly nasty 20:14 files 20:14 is this a good logo? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/369254186589880321/369266432313131008/base5.png 20:14 Wait until FIQ merges Fourk's elder and ancient dragons :-) 20:14 I like it out of the proposals I've seen so far 20:14 that one was by greqrg 20:14 I think I will use it 20:15 s/logo/icon/ 20:15 That lets you add another person to your history file too. 20:15 Which is always nice. 20:15 jonadab: Heh 20:15 jonadab: is there a wiki page or similar for elder & ancient dragons? 20:17 Sirus met a polymorph trap and is now a long worm 20:17 > Sirus displaces Sirus. 20:18 FIQhack updated 20:18 NeroOneTrueKing: lol 20:18 NeroOneTrueKing: Ther're listed on the automatically generated Fourk monster spoiler. 20:18 YANI: ranger starting dogs don't have to be named Sirius anymore. Instead, a peaceful large dog named Sirius is found on the Ranger quest home near Orion. 20:18 NeroOneTrueKing: Try restarting 20:18 after the update 20:19 NeroOneTrueKing: http://jonadab.jumpingcrab.com/nethack-stuff/spoilers-fourk/4.3.0.4/monster-spoiler.html#monst168 20:19 Thanks, found it 20:20 You can also use / (whatis) in-game now. 20:20 To get their basic stats. 20:20 Though I think I don't have speed there yet. 20:28 or use : 20:29 when farlooking a monster 20:29 also in FIQHack 20:29 Sorry Sirus, but I'm going to have to leave you behind. 20:29 Yes, the feature originated in FIQHack, I just thieved it. 20:29 it actually originatese in UnNetHackPlus 20:29 Oh? Ok. 20:29 well, the code you use originate in FIQHack 20:30 but it's based of the unnethackplus feature 20:30 Proximately, it came to Fourk from FIQHack. 20:30 or rather the dynahack version 20:30 which itself was from unnethackplus 20:30 Ah. 20:30 so 20:30 Such a shame you didn't use the slex pokedex implementation, then you could've put LT in your history file. 20:30 unnethackplus -> slash'em extended / dynahack -> FIQHack -> Fourk 20:31 haha 20:31 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 20:31 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 20:33 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:10099 20:33 Sooner or later I need to find _something_ in slex that I am willing to cherry pick, just for that purpose. 20:33 :P 20:33 skill caps originate from slex 20:34 believe it or not 20:34 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:34 allthough FIQHack's code for it is original 20:34 FIQHack commit 07afe1a9ee5cc864a62a06760497c3207e3e9210 references slexc 20:35 *slex 20:35 hey FIQ, just got an error on using an expensive camera on a barrow wight and a lizard in the north-west direction 20:35 what happened? 20:35 oh, interesting 20:35 RNG range has less than 1 value (-2) 20:36 libnethack/src/newrng.c:491 20:36 yeah I'll look at it 20:37 Skill caps are older than Slash'EM, let alone slex. 20:38 Oh, you mean showing them in the #enhance screen, right. 20:38 Or are they leather hats that boost a certain skill? :P 20:39 Heh. 20:40 Can you also wield them as weapons? 20:40 !tell K2 pushed a fix 20:40 Will do, FIQ! 20:40 NeroOneTrueKing: pushed a fix. Until K2 updates, work-around it by only zapping things close to you 20:40 It happens around 6+ tile range 20:40 Thanks 20:40 er, not zapping, but yeah 20:42 we draw ever closer to the 100 "FIQhack updated" mark 20:43 !tell LarienTelrunya Does slex have 'skill caps'? As in, leather hats that boost skill(s) when worn (or lower when cursed/negatively enchanted) 20:43 Will do, Tarmunora! 20:46 Is an incantifier "human" for the purposes of drinking people's (tinning kit made) blood potions? 20:46 yes 20:46 wow, I never realized how useless potions of oil was as a light source 20:46 their radius is 1 20:46 you can put them on the ground? 20:47 sure 20:47 I don't think they're supposed to be a real light source 20:47 sounds... useful 20:47 with how FIQHack makes light radius BUC-dependant, they do at least *something* while blessed 20:47 so there's that :P 20:47 is there any effect for when a force bolt shatters a lit potion of oil on the ground? 20:47 I think it could be fun if thrown light sources were able to light up along their path 20:47 if not, YANI 20:48 it should make a fireball 20:48 NINRL: flashes of light from fire magics do not let you see nearby things 20:49 are you saying that it should as in it should already do that, or that's a good thing to make it do? 20:49 NeroOneTrueKing: yes, instead we have light magics that let you see nearby things permanently 20:50 aosdict: it's a YANI 20:50 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 20:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 20:50 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:01 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Fem Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:11932 21:02 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Fem Neu) killed the Nightmare, on T:12006 21:03 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Fem Neu) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:12050 21:04 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Fem Neu) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:12121 21:06 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Fem Neu) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:12218 21:06 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Fem Neu) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:12256 21:08 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Fem Neu) killed Garland, on T:12358 21:09 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Fem Neu) destroyed Chaos, on T:12378 21:10 Chaos quest has a lot of livelogged events 21:10 yes 21:10 whereas axus doesn't even have one iirc 21:10 or maybe arsenal 21:10 one or both, idr 21:13 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 21:13 I think they both do 21:13 But only on the first time you kill them 21:23 God dang 21:23 tourist incantifier 21:24 Truly my favorite 21:24 Feeling the urge to beat Tarm to the ascension? 21:24 I wish 21:24 I have yet to ascend dnh 21:24 Lamashtu has ended 3 runs so far 21:24 [fh] FUCCHACK (Luxidream) (Val Hum Mal Neu) became the Envoy of Balance, on T:17599 21:25 the last one because I thought I was strong enough to take her on 21:25 I 21:25 'm not sure if Luxidream knows how to lose 21:25 he's played like 3 characters today who all got far lol 21:25 He is a madman for sure 21:26 Jonathanhanes_: you can do it! 21:26 (without dying in one of them) 21:28 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:13915 21:30 Jonathanhanes_, you should try again! 21:40 NeroOneTrueKing: ctrl+a 21:41 copy: acacacacac. Paste into terminal 21:41 ah 21:42 Why must the RNG turn a gnome lord into a black dragon, and my pet into several different kinds of mold? :( 21:42 lol 21:43 large dog! 21:43 I'm tempted to keep it. 21:43 hh 21:43 heh 21:43 Sirus, you are saved from being a long worm. 21:43 what intrinsics has he got so far 21:43 Heh 21:44 No idea, but probably not many 21:44 now it's your turn 21:44 Wait can pets get intrinsics? 21:44 yes 21:44 in FIQHack only 21:44 I always like to think that when my doggo steals my floating eye corpses he is getting telepathy 21:44 in FIQHack, a pet eating a floating eye does in fact get telepathy 21:45 it's pretty nice 21:45 because if you both have telepathy 21:45 you can see each other across the entire level 21:45 How long does it take people on average, between discovering nethack and the first ascension? 21:45 it took me 2 weeks 21:45 it takes some others like 10+ years 21:45 depends on how much you read the wiki :P 21:46 took me 11 days heh 21:46 it took me 10+ years, but I started too young to have any better grasp of strategy than "ooh look buttons make the screen change" 21:46 Slightly exaggerated, but still :) 21:46 lol 21:46 Well if you started when you were 2... :p 21:47 StinkyGreene in #nethack claimed 30 years 21:47 and still no ascension 21:48 Hm... 21:48 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:48 If he plays once every year for a day... 21:48 that would be a really quick ascension 21:49 FIQ: missing punctuation: "The flagon crashes on your head and breaks into shards. You yawn" 21:49 Fixed 21:49 that was quick 21:49 well I knew where the relevant code was 21:49 and the fix is trivial 21:50 there's a grammar error in dnh that's been there for at least a year 21:50 34 seconds from report to fix 21:50 !who 21:50 rikersan: Tarmunora [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing [fh] Luxidream [fh] flump [fh] 21:50 32s actually 21:50 01:49:05 NeroOneTrueKing │ FIQ: missing punctuation: "The flagon crashes on your head and breaks into shards. You yawn" 21:50 01:49:37 FIQ │ Fixed 21:51 My client says I spoke at 20:49:07, and you spoke at 20:49:41 21:52 lag :P 21:52 :D 21:52 usa/eu? 21:52 canada 21:53 i discovered nethack in i want to say march of this year 21:53 and ascended in may right before junethack started 21:53 not withstanding many stupid lategame deaths 21:53 both before and after my first ascension 21:56 that was pretty fast 21:56 my first asc was around 2 years after I started playing 21:56 I have 12 food rations wtf 21:57 I played pretty religiously which in turned was fueled by being involved in this irc community 21:57 rikersan: I have 77 potions of (holy) water :p 21:57 rikersan: same. somewhere between 1 and 2 years 21:57 If I had just been playing locally I might never have had the motivation to try and win 21:58 [fh] FUCCHACK (Luxidream) (Val Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:19509 21:58 hm 21:58 that name is amazing 21:58 Porkman: for fun and a gamble: dip large stacks of blessed blank paper or holy water into a potion of polymorph 21:58 jonathan: I ascended my first one locally ;P 21:58 [fh] FUCCHACK (Luxidream) (Val Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:19511 21:58 nero: "large stacks", from the guy who did at least 150 the other day 21:58 does royal jelly rot? 21:59 165 scrolls of identify, then fire, then identify again 21:59 I don't think royal jelly degrades with time 21:59 huh, is the rogue leel the only level that spawns "zombies"? 21:59 nothing else 21:59 not even human zombie 21:59 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Fem Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:15783 22:00 Nero - I remember polypiling in one game in slashem one day and turning 50 holy waters into smoky full healings 22:00 That's always a good feeling :) 22:00 which I obviously had to quaff right there and then cause polypiled stuff in slashem isn't permanent 22:01 ...I haven't got potion of poly ID'ed this game so far 22:01 dnh master of thieves is so frikkin beefy 22:01 unless you dip it in restore ability, which you probably have a couple potions of for the good stuff 22:01 Nah 22:01 with all that +5 gear 22:01 He died in 2 hits 22:01 Because the first one missed 22:01 NeroOneTrueKing: do stacks not shudder when dipping into poly? 22:01 I am not usually that prepared 22:01 when I meet him 22:01 aosdict: they can 22:01 Finger of death is quite effective 22:02 but seemingly not as often 22:02 and never any golems 22:02 wait what? 22:02 [fh] FUCCHACK (Luxidream) (Val Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:19589 22:02 He was still asleep 22:02 does finger of death bypass the mr of the pyec? 22:02 ahhh 22:02 sneaky you 22:02 jonathan: "wait, you mean those wands of death are useful?" 22:02 Hadn't grabbed the pyec yet 22:03 I mean, dnh gives so many of them to you, clearly they're just another junk drop :P 22:03 Yes I definitely feel a dnh run coming on 22:03 will a greased leather hat protet cs a master mind flayer? 22:03 *vs a 22:03 One of us! One of us! One of us! 22:03 rikersan: I think it helps? 22:03 Finger of death is better though :P 22:03 I am a monk 22:04 with 2 spells 22:04 sleep, and cure blindness 22:04 >_> 22:04 70%/58% fail 22:04 don't diss sleep, it's good 22:04 Wand of death? 22:04 nothing 22:04 rikersan: yes your greased leather hat will help 22:04 cool 22:05 tarmunora: just was checking this out, I'm just wondering if it's worth looting the wand store 22:05 I do'nt have reflection so I'm not going against the soldiers yet 22:05 gonna try the chaos quest I think 22:05 context: neutral quest entrance level 22:05 [fh] FUCCHACK (Luxidream) (Val Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:19633 22:07 Tourists are the real drunks in dnh 22:07 why? 22:07 The quest has so many dwarves. I'm basically immune to the movement randomisation of confusion now 22:07 Yes do tell 22:07 new hatred 22:07 land mines 22:07 Geez, you mean you're supposed to drink those potions of booze? 22:08 Yeah 22:08 a freaking spider just triggered one and woke up 6 barracks 22:08 jonathan: dnh booze is amzing 22:08 Hmm 22:08 The more you drink, the less confusion /stunning will mess up your moves 22:08 vegan and 140 nutrition, and builds confusion resistance 22:08 it will not affect scroll reading htough 22:08 Or casting 22:08 I knew about the confusion resistance but wasn't sure if it was significant enough to quaff them 22:09 Guess I will be from now on 22:09 [dnh] rikersan (Mon Hlf Mal Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:12140 22:09 he does not deserve a msg 22:10 [dnh] rikersan (Mon Hlf Mal Neu) was given the Rod of the Ram, on T:12285 22:10 :/ no good 22:10 hold up 22:11 why did that happen? 22:11 what about monk safe artis? 22:11 nero: please fix 22:11 great question! 22:11 I'm angry 22:11 I was hoping for the tshirt 22:11 >_< 22:12 now I have to try again w/ more orcs 22:15 Have you hit with a wielded weapon? 22:15 Because breaking that conduct makes all artifacts eligible 22:16 really? 22:16 dangit 22:16 yep I think so 22:16 that is frustrating, but nvm nero 22:16 Also, 1/20 chance of receiving a non-safe one anyways 22:17 hm 22:17 (by_align && Role_if(PM_MONK) && !is_monk_safe_artifact(m) && (!(u.uconduct.weaphit) || rn2(20))) 22:17 suggestion: maybe make it every hit with a wielded weapon up to 20 increases the chance 22:18 I accidentally hit a couple things with ogresmasher 22:19 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: horrible internet is horrible] 22:19 actually, if you have hit with a wielded weapon, it's a 19/20 chance of this bit of code saying "no give him a monk-safe one" 22:19 which does NOT equate to 19/20 artifacts gifted will be monk-safe 22:22 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Fem Neu) wished for "the blessed fixed greased historic +5 Tie-dye shirt of shambhala", on T:16649 22:29 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Fem Neu) killed Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:17630 22:29 and I just evaporated my robe by fatfingering 22:32 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 22:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 22:34 -!- notym has joined #hardfought 22:39 polied that holy water into extra healing, made 50 full healing, turned 15 of those into gain ability, 2nd wish from smoky 22:40 [fh] NeroOneTrueKing (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:20004 22:42 chromatic dragonscales... failed :( 22:42 [fh] Stonebuns (flump) (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 30203 points, T:3179, killed by a giant spider 22:42 those are unwishable :( 22:43 oh 22:46 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible Center of All, on T:19138 22:50 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Disconnected] 22:51 "You destroy the Center of All! Suddenly, the universe collapses." 22:54 -!- honu has joined #hardfought 22:59 Thank you FIQ for item-finding 22:59 I forgot that enemies will pick up containers and dropped my bag of holding 22:59 And it made it's way into the bottom of a moat, somehow. 23:00 heh 23:00 np 23:00 also enjoy your blanked scrolls :P 23:03 whoopsie. 23:03 took a badass A to minetown to kill the priest and get me anotehr robe 23:03 however, I'd like to report a bug with the item finder 23:04 it... kinda killed everything too. no more charging shopkeeper :( 23:04 Tulani Eladrin 23:04 I searched for "bag of holding" and it came up with all of the items I had in it 23:04 32 second fix, go! 23:04 In the location where I last saw the bag 23:08 -!- honu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:09 NeroOneTrueKing: hmm 23:09 yeah it makes sense as to why it would do that... but it's a bit silly 23:09 what do you think it should do? 23:09 Hmm, I might want to change the Ranger quest text such that Scorpius doesn't speak. By all indications, he is not the least bit capable of it. 23:10 lose track of the content, or mention that you lost track of the container? 23:10 I'd say treat it like the container 23:10 ok 23:10 Which in this case, was disappear from ctrl-f 23:10 yeah 23:30 -!- honu has joined #hardfought 23:31 NeroOneTrueKing: fixed 23:31 !tell K2 pushed a fix 23:31 Will do, FIQ! 23:32 I must say, the turnaround time between an issue being reported and a fix being uploaded is lovely. 23:32 Yeah, I know. Just how much time do you have on your hands, FIQ? 23:33 aosdict: I have some free time for the coming weeks 23:33 Also most fixes just take a few minutes to do 23:35 Hmm 23:35 What to wish for... 23:37 aosdict: for example, the last commit 23:37 it might *sound* like a complex change 23:37 but it was really just a 10-line change 23:37 trivial 23:38 same with potion fix 23:38 I do productive stuff like read up on things, casual stuff like gaming and whatnot 23:38 but when I'm highlighted about such a thing, I can simply just jump into emacs 23:38 open up the potion file 23:38 search for the relevant lines 23:38 fix it 23:39 all in like 30s in total 23:39 that's what useful editors do :) 23:43 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed +5 lightsaber", on T:21751 23:43 afk sleep 23:44 g'night 23:45 FIQ: wait, are you currently in sweden? if so, why are you staying up so late? 23:55 [dnh] Tarmunora (Tou Inc Fem Neu) killed Great Cthulhu, on T:22310 23:55 does Dnethack give any difference between skilled and expert casting? 23:56 (other than fail rates) 23:59 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 23:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ