00:23 -!- sir0b1xx has left #hardfought 00:38 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 00:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 00:43 [fh] MTF (mtf) (Arc Hum Mal Law), 25647 points, T:1251, killed by a gnome king 01:36 [sp] k2 (Pri Hum Mal Law), 2880 points, T:2725, killed by kicking a wall 01:37 [fh] MTF (mtf) (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the ghost of Freakitsar, the former Thaumaturge, on T:5312 01:43 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:43 !players 01:43 bug_sniper: mtf [fh] 01:44 [fh] MTF (mtf) (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the wraith of FIQQY FAZBEAR, the former Cutpurse, on T:6033 01:45 FIQ, I see you've added player wraiths 02:02 YANI: walking into a peaceful monster displaces it, just like a pet. There, no more annoyances on levels like the ranger quest home. 02:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 02:07 LarienTelrunya, oh God yes - the ranger quest level always makes me groan 02:08 :) watchmen in certain town levels are similarly annoying 02:08 especially when you are trying to run away from something trying to eat you 02:12 Hero: "Constable, help! Help, that nasty monster is trying to kill me!" Watchman: "Stop bothering me! I'm so apathetic I don't even care if you kill the local townfolk, but whatever you do - don't drink from the fountain!" 02:12 what's a user of stand? 02:12 and what's a dq slime? 02:13 should I pick one of those roles? 02:13 and what's a twelph? 02:13 "should" is such a mis-used word 02:13 yeah 02:14 user of stand is a completely weird one, and slex doesn't actually have a "stand" so, well... probably not the best choice :D 02:14 I mean, it might make sense if you wanted a challenge or something different 02:14 dq slime is a harder than hard role, good luck if you're going to try one ;) 02:14 twelph is a dark elf that is good at using bows 02:17 now, what's a good race for an elementalist? 02:18 uhh, dunno? maybe redguard? 02:19 their energy regeneration will probably be helpful 02:21 ooo fir stick 02:21 fire stick 02:21 heh, maybe it's made of fir tree wood? :D 02:22 heh 02:22 it provides a nice permanent light radius! 02:22 fir wood wouldn't be very hard then I guess 02:23 lol, I have a fire stick in my shed from when I used to do fire twirling 02:23 maybe I will again one day, when my ankle is better 02:24 and gut is smaller 02:24 you should wear high heels, it really helped my foot to heal after I fell down the stairs ;) 02:24 not a bad idea, I mostly hobble around putting weight on the ball/outside of my foot 02:25 to minimise flexion of the injured flesh on the inside of my ankle 02:25 I have an improvised bamboo walking stick! Which helps a lot 02:26 yeah, having to actually press the ball on the ground with every step hurts like hell in that situation; wedge sandals will alleviate that 02:26 bug_sniper: kaboom :/ 02:26 [slex] bugsniper (Elm Red Fem Neu), 77 points, T:295, fell into a pit 02:26 slex claims another soul 02:26 oh, who's up next? 02:27 you! 02:28 bug_sniper: try a DQ slime, just for giggles ;) 02:28 maybe with some weird race like dinosaur 02:29 I started off owning nothing but scrolls 02:29 one of the DQ slime's gimmicks is that he doesn't start with any skills, but they will be gradually unlocked as you gain levels 02:29 Matt (my pet trapper): Level 38 HP 304(304) AC 3, tame, fast (relatively) 02:30 and they start with intrinsic menu bug, which prevents some commands (prevmsg, among others) from being used 02:31 I'm already in a situation 02:31 your sword is probably rather weak due to lack of skill; you can try to kick the blat to death 02:32 can I engrave elbereth? 02:32 yeah, but I'm not so sure how resistant blobs are 02:33 ah, they don't get any extra resistance to Elbereth 02:33 however, monsters that have exactly 1 HP are immune (EPI by jonadab) 02:33 chances are it generated with 1 max HP :P 02:33 which would in turn mean that one kick would be enough to kill it 02:33 desperate times => desperate measures? 02:34 heh, more like "the monster knows it's gonna die anyway, so it might as well attack and hope to deal at least some damage first" 02:35 bug_sniper: did you get a skill? 02:35 yes 02:35 yeah, that's what I mean :D 02:36 wow, crystal water! how pretty! 02:36 I've never seen it before 02:36 it's water that clings to the ceiling, i.e. you can freely move over it if you don't fly or levitate, but if you do, you'll "fall" in. 02:36 ok 02:37 the possibility to quaff from it is actually a bug, since you're supposed to be unable to reach it; at least I already made it so that dipping does not work 02:38 skills gained from leveling up are random, so you have to get lucky to receive one that's actually good 02:39 the DQ slime also gets many positive and negative intrinsics from leveling up; if you reach XL5, you get intrinsic auto destruct 02:40 expensive darts named reactor fracment 02:40 faketifact; they must be rather highly enchanted 02:41 haha, that hammer :D 02:41 will my pet steal it? 02:42 it's lawful, so I guess only a lawful pet will touch it 02:42 @le?kitten 02:42 kitten (f) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 4 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 6 | Attacks: 1d6 bite physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, infravisible 02:42 well the kitten is neutral, so probably no 02:42 ... apparently I was wrong :P 02:43 but yeah, those status effects are debilitating 02:44 YASI: a weapon that gives freezing as in you shiver and slowly freeze if you don't drop it 02:45 where do you get the bfg ammo? 02:45 it's randomly generated, but rather rare 02:45 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:46 was wondering if I should steal it 02:46 steal the morning star if it isn't cursed, since you now have the skill for it ;) 02:47 I can't pay for anything it seems 02:48 oh, does it say the pay command is unavailable? 02:48 this makes money basically worthless 02:48 yes 02:48 well, you can try to use credit, i.e. drop some money, but this has a chance of not working and the shopkeeper declaring the money to be his property 02:48 yeah, that happens a lot 02:48 which means that I'd drop only as much as the thing you want to buy would cost 02:48 at first I thought the shopkeeper had to see the money 02:49 there's a problem with that 02:49 I can't chat either so I don't know if I have credit 02:49 well, if it doesn't say "20 zorkmids are added to your credit" then it means you didn't get credit 02:49 it didn't 02:50 ah, it worked :) 02:50 uh-oh, kop station on the level! 02:51 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 02:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 02:52 whoa, black market on dlvl2! 02:52 except it isn't really the black market 02:52 there was a store there 02:52 yeah, but it's actually Medusa's level (minus Medusa of course) 02:53 are dq slimes slow? 02:53 yes 02:53 rather slow in fact; speed 9 compared to the standard 12 02:54 also, you have auto destruct now, which means that trying to do a multi-turn action will result in it always being interrupted every turn 02:55 eating something counts as such a multi-turn action 02:55 ouch, without MC those level drain attacks really hurt! 02:56 [slex] bugsniper (Sli Din Mal Neu) averted death, on T:1258 02:57 [slex] bugsniper (Sli Din Mal Neu), 2235 points, T:1258, killed by life drainage 02:57 rip :( 02:57 well, haven't been killed by life drainage before 02:58 so this is "unique death get"? ;) 02:59 [nd] Grasshopper (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:57130 03:01 gehenna, sacrificing humans? 03:01 Grasshopper 03:02 FIQ: I like your idea of a special room with mummies, maybe I'll implement something similar :) 03:03 especially considering how Team M is currently one of the more underrepresented ones 03:04 * LarienTelrunya still needs ideas for additional types of special rooms 03:04 (preferably ones that are more than just "fill room with monsters of a specific glyph") 03:05 a services center 03:05 filled with shopkeepers with services but nothing to buy 03:07 a room with spiral-shaped barriers 03:07 well, one possibility would be to make rooms that are based on some of the new terrain types I added 03:09 a room with a chest if you solve a puzzle involving activating and deactivating flight in the right positions 03:10 thing is, the special rooms I add should work no matter how small or big they are, and be compatible with irregularly-shaped rooms too 03:11 but a room that is half crystal water, half normal water, and has a few normal floor squares, and a treasure chest somewhere, might work :) 03:13 yeah, it will take some extra work to make angled spirals 03:15 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 03:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 03:15 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 56.0/20170929100409]] 03:15 YANI: give people the gehenna trophy when they find the wand of wishing in the castle 03:16 that would require awful special casing, plus some of slex's castle levels don't have a wand of wishing... 03:18 yeah, though it would work for unnethack 03:18 personally, I like the way Nethack Fourk does it, by giving the trophy once you answer yes on the "Unspeakable harm and cruelty lurk down here, do you really want to enter?" prompt 03:19 you give people a way to get banished past it 03:20 yeah but the current slex version uses the Fourk way to determine whether you earned the trophy, so banishment won't grant it anymore :D 03:23 -!- khoR has joined #hardfought 03:23 Good morning little rays of sunshine 03:24 not giving a trophy for using a backdoor is so unnethackish 03:25 so is making an undead kop non-undead 03:25 @le?undead kop 03:25 Undead Kop (K) | Lvl: 1 | Diff: 3 | Spd: 6 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 10 | Generates: special | AC: 10 | Attacks: 1d4 weapon physical | Alignment: 9 | Flags: genocidable, breathless, mindless, undead 03:25 @le?undead kop katcher 03:25 No such monster. 03:25 @le?undead kop kaptain 03:26 No such monster. 03:26 they're called "undead katcher" 03:26 @le?undead katcher 03:26 Undead Katcher (K) | Lvl: 24 | Diff: 27 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold sleep poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 50 | Generates: special | AC: 0 | Attacks: 2d24 weapon physical, 2d3 kick paralyze | Alignment: 12 | Flags: genocidable, flies, breathless, mindless, regenerates, seeinvis, nopoly 03:26 teah, thanks 03:26 but yeah, Team K and Team 8 are currently too powerful in slex and I'm already planning to do a nerf for the next version 03:26 currently, if you get a void room on dlvl30, you can say goodbye to your char :P 03:29 @le?car ghost 03:29 car ghost ~3~ barghest (d) | Lvl: 32 | Diff: 34 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 55 | Generates: special | AC: -5 | Attacks: 8d15 bite physical | Alignment: -10 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, swims, phases, breathless, mindless, nopoly, undead 03:29 @le?sedan ghost 03:29 No such monster. 03:29 @le?hatchback ghost 03:29 No such monster. 03:30 why only truck ghosts? 03:30 @le?van ghost 03:30 van ghost ~3~ sub ghost (y) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 19 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire cold sleep disintegrate shock poison acid petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 15 | Generates: special | AC: -1 | Attacks: 18d20 explode confuse, 4d4 breath shock | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, flies, amorphous, breathless, mindless, unsolid, infravisible, vegan 03:30 truck ghosts are actually one of the easier things that you can get in void rooms; try this one: 03:30 @le?airi 03:30 airi (8) | Lvl: 32 | Diff: 38 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold sleep disintegrate poison petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 70 | Generates: special | AC: -7 | Attacks: 4d10 bite poison-sting, 2d6 gaze fear, 3d4 gaze masterblaster, 3d5 cast spell | Alignment: -5 | Flags: flies, swims, phases, breathless, unsolid, poisonous, nopoly, undead, stalker, vegan 03:30 one big problem with Team 8 is that most of the high-level ones are rather fast, which contradicts the idea that undead are supposed to be sluggish 03:31 @le?raw mana vortex 03:31 raw mana vortex (v) | Lvl: 33 | Diff: 40 | Spd: 27 | Res: fire sleep poison petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 30 | Generates: special | AC: -3 | Attacks: 8d8 engulf mana, 8d8 non-contacting-beam mana | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, flies, breathless, mindless, unsolid, nopoly, vegan 03:32 @le?affirm trespassory mounding 03:32 No such monster. 03:32 aww... that thing actually exists, it's a level 61 ghost with 8d6 drain constitution and 5d17 trample decay attacks 03:32 it's probably the gazing that makes airi more dangerous, though I don't know what masterblaster does 03:32 and I've seen it generated on dlvl30 void rooms 03:33 "masterblaster" is actually psybeam, which can cause all sorts of afflictions ranging from confusion to amnesia 03:33 yeah, that's dangerous when you're surrounded by everything 03:34 gotta add some slow ghost types in the next version :) 03:35 maybe a tamable ghost too 03:36 or a friendly ghost like casper 03:37 Ad a "spoopy ghost" that when he reaches you he jus screams "Boo!" and teleports away 03:37 tamable sounds good, maybe I'll also make one that always spawns tame ;) 03:37 khoR: sounds like a good idea, but the "Boo!" should inflict the fear status effect on you if you fail a saving throw :D 03:38 If you put it in slex it fits the "everything must be annoying" thematic of the variant I guess. :P 03:39 well, lately I feel that some monster teams are actually too annoying, but I'm having trouble coming up with non-annoying monsters :( 03:39 too many evil patch ideas and not enough non-evil ones! 03:40 Well, my wholesome ghost wasnt meant to be annoying, but I can help you with that. 03:40 Add my "plumber kit" to slex! 03:40 :D 03:40 hmm, I could make one that just randomly teleports around but has only a weak physical attack 03:41 It's the item I made when I was following a tutorial on how to add different items to the game. 03:41 perhaps we need more saddles because I haven't seen one in months 03:41 haha, I faintly remember :) it's a shame Khorhack is discontinued, you should write more special levels! 03:41 Yeah it's a shame I'm to dumb to code a variant. 03:41 I had so many ideas. 03:42 bug_sniper: there was a proposal for alternate mines end variants, one of which would have a bunch of saddles 03:42 You can just make able to ride monsters without saddles 03:42 with some penalty 03:42 YANI: a black market with portals to inner shops 03:42 like you get a dex reduction because your butt hurts 03:42 :v 03:43 LOL :D riding without a saddle for more than 2000 turns would make the pain so unbearable that you're forced to dismount? 03:44 YANI: creating burning tiles by zapping a wand of fire or using a candle on some scrolls you've dropped 03:47 jonadab: re your idea with the werekraken on Medusa's level: those are already semi-common in slex on Medusa's depth (it's deep enough for them to generate as random semicolons), how about making a dozen or so guaranteed ones? :D 04:10 It would be cool if holes ended up always in the same place and you could go up on them with levitation/jumping 04:10 it would make the asc run also less annoying 04:11 -!- nht has joined #hardfought 04:13 20:37 what if I get what I like to call an 'ais523storm' ? <--- hahaha that term sounds so funny, I'd love to use that for something in slex, but no idea what that something should be - maybe something like an archonstorm? 04:15 I dont know how possible that is to do with current nethack code 04:15 but it would be nice 04:20 !who 04:20 FIQ: GagarinX [slex] Grasshopper [nd] munterplant [nd] 04:28 I am now in present time 04:34 Did you read my idea FIQ? 04:34 no 04:34 oh the ghost thing? 04:34 fits more with slex 04:35 if you mean riding w/o saddles 04:35 I'd rather make them more common 04:36 -!- ais523 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:36 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 04:37 FIQ: Saddles and holes. 04:37 I responded to the saddle thing 04:37 what about holes? 04:37 It would be cool if holes ended up always in the same place and you could go up on them with levitation/jumping 04:37 10:10 it would make the asc run also less annoying; I dont know how possible that is to do with current nethack code 04:37 10:15 but it would be nice 04:38 It makes too much sense that you should be able to ride without saddle, but ok. :P 04:38 khoR: making hole destination consistent (and trap doors) is something I've wanted to do for a while 04:38 riding w/out a saddle is pretty hard - you'd need to be skilled+ surely 04:39 -!- yuring has joined #hardfought 04:39 YANI: if crafting were to be implemented, saddles should be one of the items that the player can craft 04:39 or maybe just small would do 04:39 just upgrade a leash 04:40 in slex, 3.5% of all randomly generated tools are saddles; I don't know the vanilla probabilities 04:40 not high 04:41 only 0.5% apparently? 04:41 yeah 04:42 just looked 04:42 if I move vlad to mines 04:42 I'll probably replace the long sword with a saddle 04:42 bug_sniper: so, you not finding a saddle is just the RNG toying with you; they should be not all that uncommon in slex, especially if you clear out every mines level 04:44 -!- nht has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:45 -!- raisse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:45 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 04:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v theRaisse] by ChanServ 04:46 -!- nht has joined #hardfought 05:09 -!- nht has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:10 -!- nht has joined #hardfought 05:39 [nd] munterplant (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:4118 05:48 [nd] munterplant (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:4177 06:42 -!- tacco has joined #hardfought 06:44 !tell K2 fiqhack updated -- poison breath no longer kills monsters twice, and steeds will no longer retaliate on trice if they consider it a bad idea 06:44 Will do, FIQ! 06:48 -!- yuring has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:58 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 07:02 [nd] Raisse (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:2839 07:04 -!- tacco has quit [] 07:20 FIQ: and is it possible? 07:20 Would you also make it 2 way? 07:20 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 07:33 khoR: ? 07:35 LarienTelrunya: Somehow, I am not surprised that slex already has werekrakens. 07:36 Can the player get kraken lycanthropy, and end up changing into something that's helpless if not in water every few turns? 07:36 hi jonadab! it has had them for quite a while now, and also werepiranhas and wereeels 07:36 Naturally. 07:36 FIQ: Part of my idea was that if you made holes always end up in the same place you could also add the ability of going "up" through them with levitation/jumping/flying. 07:36 yes, you can become a werekraken, and then you're screwed if you can't cure it quickly 07:37 khoR: Have you seen the Class Overhaul proposal section on archeologists and grappling hooks? 07:38 I havent seen any class overhaul 07:38 YASI: winged krakens. They can swim and also fly. 07:38 YASI: winged kraken lich. they can swim and also fly and also teleport and summon nasties 07:38 actually 07:39 winged kraken lichatrice 07:39 khoR: This is mostly dtsund's ideas, though there are comments at the bottom by some other people including me. https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Jonadab/ClassOverhaul 07:39 khoR: Oooh, can they warp to you, grab you, and the next turn warp to water and drown you? 07:39 EPI: ^ 07:39 wait 07:39 what the fuck 07:39 why is valkyrie more pure fighter than a barbarian or a samurai 07:40 It shouldn't be. That's addressed later. 07:40 khoR: excellent monster ideas :) thanks! 07:40 See the "Alternative" proposals at the bottom for other ideas about valkyrie/barbarian. 07:40 this is too much of a read for my mental state right now sorry 07:40 will check out some other time 07:41 What a surprise 07:41 I agree with Chris_ANG 07:41 The Archeologist section is particularly relevant to what you were saying about holes. 07:41 khoR: don't suggest things when LarienTelrunya is nearb 07:41 y 07:41 unless you want to make slex more annoying to get through 07:42 i also gave him wholesome ideas 07:42 FIQ: realistically, nobody is going to ever get through slex anyway. 07:42 FIQ: sssshhhhhhhhhhh! 07:42 That ship has _sailed_. 07:43 hm 07:43 thats not exactly what I said 07:43 but similar 07:44 I'd let all roles use grappling hooks in the described manner but give Archeologists a supply of them in starting inventory and some more on the quest. 07:47 how many 07:53 huh 07:53 3.6.x / is fancier 07:55 -!- yuring has joined #hardfought 07:59 Not sure exactly how many. 08:00 3.6.x has stuff like 08:00 Monsters currently shown near <72,16>: 08:00 <72,15> f tame kitten 08:00 At _least_ a dozen to start, and at least twice that in the quest, I'd think. Maybe more, because in the proposal, Arc are supposed to use them to avoid combat. 08:00 <72,16> @ gnomish wizard called fiq 08:00 probably for the benefit of blind players? 08:00 FIQ: Oh, nice. 08:00 That's useful for everyone, though. 08:00 jonadab: why not levitation jump and fly? 08:01 Always good when your disabled-person support doesn't make things worse for everyone else. 08:01 jonadab: same with objects 08:01 as well as the regular farlook and the shitty thing that was the only thing 1.3d had when you specify by typing a letter 08:02 khoR: levitation and jumping probably don't reach high enough, but flying should probably work. 08:03 FIQ: that sentence not parse 08:03 I mean this 08:03 D a dragon 08:03 Specify what? (type the word) D 08:04 also 3.6.x has autodescription of farlook info toggleable :3 08:04 so you don't need to press . to get proper info 08:04 just need to "hover" over it 08:05 similar to NH4 08:05 Ah, good. 08:05 These are good improvements. 08:26 [fh] Khor (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed the ghost of what if fred is actually grill, the former Excursionist, on T:7565 08:42 FIQ: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9Knw9WP0/ 08:43 khoR: what did you do? 08:43 I fixed a bug like that recently 08:43 that hasn't had an update pushed yet 08:43 Nothing 08:43 hi 08:43 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 08:43 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-10-06 06:44 EDT: fiqhack updated -- poison breath no longer kills monsters twice, and steeds will no longer retaliate on trice if they consider it a bad idea 08:43 i was just walking on the mines 08:44 another update 08:44 Wht do I do? 08:44 FIQhack updated 08:45 P R or Q? 08:46 i just applied an update 08:46 perhaps Q and restart 08:46 khoR: press Q 08:47 see if the update solves this as FIQ alluded to 08:47 then exit out of the main men back to dgl 08:47 then fire it up again 08:47 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:47 see if it went away 08:47 kurwa 08:47 again 08:47 yeah 08:47 rip mysave 08:51 http://home.fiq.se/mon_info.png 08:51 khoR: Does it still show? 08:51 yeah every time I load 08:52 also two things crash I think 08:52 cuz I have to press Q twice 08:52 that's a bit odd 08:52 but with that said 08:52 K2: can you give me khoR's save? 08:52 yeah 08:52 dmonsfree 1and dmonsfree 0 08:55 yup 08:57 see pm 08:57 gonna be away from computer for a bit 08:58 -!- loli has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 08:58 making some rub for ribs i'm smoking later tonight 08:58 (and chicken breasts, and a couple ribeye steaks) 08:59 wow 08:59 weird 08:59 you're right with the Q thing 08:59 -!- loli has joined #hardfought 08:59 that's bizarre 09:00 have to ask ais about that later 09:00 but anyway, let me look at the bug 09:04 !tell K2 pushed a fix 09:04 Will do, FIQ! 09:04 khoR: pushed a fix 09:04 when server is updated it should be all good 09:04 FIQhack updated 09:04 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-10-06 09:04 EDT: pushed a fix 09:06 -!- loli has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:07 FIQ: I don't suppose you have any tips on how to reproduce the playerinfo struct memory corruption bug? 09:07 play my save 09:07 Ah. 09:07 ask k2 for it I guess 09:07 K2: ^ ? 09:07 but jonadab 09:08 all of my saves have this issue 09:08 Oh? 09:08 are you sure you can't repro 09:08 Hmm. 09:08 yeah 09:08 look 09:08 this is another save 09:08 I haven't reproduced it yet. 09:08 spec 09:08 one moment. 09:09 Yeah, I see it. 09:09 Tou Scu, let me try that. 09:09 this is a 3rd save 09:09 same thing 09:09 Hmm. 09:09 Ok, I'm going to save this orc cav game then and start a tou scu one. 09:09 this is a new char 09:09 elven priest 09:09 same thing 09:10 Hmm. 09:10 this is version 09:10 It's the version on the server, presumably. 09:10 Which is recent, I think. 09:12 Hmm. 09:12 I'm running under valgrind and not seeing it, but I haven't looked at valgrind's _output_ yet. 09:16 ==6404== ERROR SUMMARY: 0 errors from 0 contexts (suppressed: 0 from 0) 09:16 There's something you're doing that I'm not doing, or some other difference. 09:16 minesflayer 09:16 first time I've seen that in a while 09:16 master mind flayer, no less 09:17 It's rare. 09:17 Except in that one Hall of Fame bug. 09:17 heh 09:18 jonadab: why do I have a 0:1 wand of cancellation as a priest? 09:18 also 09:19 shouldn't mind flayers have their attack disabled if cancelled? 09:19 I don't know; I haven't messed with what cancellation does to monsters at all. 09:19