00:00 [nd] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2975 00:01 -!- Jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 00:06 [nd] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2582 points, T:3299, killed by a giant ant 00:12 -!- MTF has joined #hardfought 00:13 FIQ: Any word on whether that taming fix of yours has been pushed to the server? I"m in an unusual situation that kind of requires it... haha 00:13 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/205316704106971136/364625437764091904/unknown.png 00:13 Need to tame yellow D, but don't want black D to become untame xD 00:16 -!- Jendic has quit [Quit: *poof*] 00:16 -!- Jendic has joined #hardfought 00:19 mtf: what fix? 00:22 @d?demogorgon 00:22 Demogorgon (&) | Lvl: 108 | Diff: 61 | Spd: 18 | Res: fire poison acid petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 95 | Generates: unique | AC: -26 | Attacks: 3d12 claw disease, 3d12 claw disease, 1d1 gaze level drain, 1d1 gaze paralyze, 1d12 cast spell, 1d12 cast spell | Alignment: -20 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, covetous, infravisible 00:23 @d?obox ob 00:23 obox ob ~1~ Obox-ob (&) | Lvl: 100 | Diff: 56 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire disintegrate poison acid petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 100 | Generates: unique | AC: -30 | Attacks: 3d10 sting poly, 1d10 gaze paralyze, 1d10 gaze paralyze, 1d10 gaze paralyze, 0d10 cast spell, 0d10 cast spell | Alignment: -20 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, covetous, infravisible 00:23 huh cool 00:25 @d?Throne Archon 00:25 No such monster. 00:25 @d?Archon 00:25 Yeah, the entries are still out of date. 00:25 Archon (A) | Lvl: 27 | Diff: 33 | Spd: 17 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 77 | Generates: dungeons | AC: -27 | Attacks: 2d4 weapon physical, 2d4 weapon physical, 2d6 gaze blind, 1d8 claw physical, 0d7 cast spell | Alignment: 17 | Flags: flies, regenerates, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravisible 00:25 hm ok 00:26 what why can the heart of ahriman cause curses O_O 00:26 oh, confused invoke? 00:26 Obox-ob actually has a polymorphing sting, and gazes of paralysis, drain life, and wisdom-drain 00:26 _ouch_ 00:26 Compared to the other demon princes? He's around the middle of the pack. 00:27 .. true 00:27 assuming sustain ability protects, and so does mc/mr? 00:27 The wiz-drain is comprable to staring at Great Cthulu 00:27 *wis-drain 00:27 which is easily avoidable? 00:27 Yeah 00:27 Blindfold and you're golden 00:28 Unlike Mammon, where if you lack SDSM, you're golden 00:28 ...literally 00:28 lol 00:28 I thought telepathy triggered that also? 00:28 rikersan_: sorry, stepped away for a sec. Earlier today FIQ made some commits fixing a problem w/ magic harps, taming, and mounts 00:28 was wondering if they've made it live yet 00:29 ah cool 00:29 K2: do you know by any chance? 00:31 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:39 -!- rikersan_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:42 -!- Jendic has quit [Quit: *poof*] 00:52 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:39 [nd] munterplant (Val Hum Fem Law), 1067 points, T:1835, killed by an invisible gnome king 01:56 -!- MTF has quit [Quit: *poof*] 02:26 -!- yuring has joined #hardfought 03:11 -!- nht has joined #hardfought 03:15 !tell ais523 You could piggyback on displacement logic 03:15 Will do, FIQ! 03:15 -!- khoR has joined #hardfought 03:16 !tell ais523 @ "ais523 │ that would be a nightmare to code" regarding a cantrip about making an illusion of yourself 03:16 Will do, FIQ! 03:18 [nd] Raisse (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:2747 03:55 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:23 no way 04:23 I wanted to go wishless and I get a fountain wish lol 04:23 Naturally 04:23 Now do you still want to go wishless? :) 04:24 if playing fiqhack, you may want to know that I changed artiwishing rules 04:24 random artifacts will no longer mess up artiwishing 04:24 well 04:24 what should I wish for if I wanted to break it? 04:24 I reall have no clue anymore 04:24 xD 04:24 DSM I guess? 04:24 really? 04:24 gray? 04:24 FIQHack makes choice of DSM harder though 04:24 By buffing the colored ones 04:25 Why not an artifact tho? 04:25 You can get it later 04:25 survival is easily more important than anything 04:25 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/FIQHack#Changes_applicable_to_junethack_2018 04:25 scroll up a bit 04:26 for DSM changes 04:27 [fh] Khor (Pri Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 blue dragon scale mail", on T:4326 04:27 Also note that extrinsic shock resistance will protect your wands from being destroyed 04:28 Im not fast? 04:28 You should be 04:28 Note that intrinsic abilities will not show anything 04:28 I didnt get a you speed up message 04:28 Since you are extrinsically fast 04:28 That, on the other hand, sounds like a bug 04:29 Check inventory? 04:29 wasnt that a thing? 04:29 ok 04:29 J - a blessed greased +2 blue dragon scale mail (being worn) {150} 04:29 Well it said "you stop changing your equipment" 04:29 probably because it never put on the robe 04:29 since you were interrupted 04:29 anyway 04:29 as for the speed thing 04:29 I'll check 04:30 OK, I double checked 04:30 You do get the speed boost 04:30 Not sure why there isn't a message about it 04:31 I'll see if I can fix that 04:31 later 04:31 oki 04:32 'quiver' (and 'fire' if nothing is quivered) will now prompt if you want to quiver a spell. This way you can use 'f' to fire spells 04:32 This is so nice 04:33 I didnt get a you're not encumbered anymore 04:33 wasnt that a thing too? 04:36 -!- yuring has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 04:37 yes 04:38 Your movements are now unencumbered, something like that. 04:44 [nd] Raisse (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:1307 04:50 aosdict: Chris had an interesting idea as response to jonadab's black market proposal thing 04:50 >Howabout Eblis/Iblis the king of the djinn, who sells wishes (or creates requested items via wishes, and sells them to you at BM prices)? 04:51 what if the black market was replaced with someone that grants a wish for an extraordinarily amount of money? 05:05 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 05:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 05:15 FIQ: well I'm not getting that message 05:18 you are the first one with this issue 05:18 are you sure you didn't just miss it? 05:18 see msglog 05:19 khoR: ^ 05:26 yes 05:27 Now I'm not getting the you have trouble lifting one 05:27 lol 05:29 that makes no sense 05:29 I'll take a look I guess 05:30 hmm 05:30 the you have a little trouble thing works fine for me 05:30 but yeah I'm not getting encumbrance messages 05:30 apparently 05:31 blue dragon scale mail 05:31 stops messages from appearing 05:31 for me 05:31 Um 05:31 jonadab: 05:31 oh no 05:31 The coyoto bit me 05:31 *coyote 05:31 I now have 0 HP left 05:31 And yet 05:31 I am not dead 05:31 now I didnt get the message either 05:31 in 4k 05:31 wtf 05:31 khoR: Yes, I think I know what caused issues 05:32 nomessages anymore 05:32 I blame ais523 :P 05:32 He messed with that recently 05:32 I was going to test in 4k 05:32 But I ran into an... interesting bug 05:32 khoR: spectate me 05:32 this is 4k 05:33 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9h340a8S/ 05:33 jonadab: ^ 05:34 This gamestate is corrupt 05:34 Somehow 05:35 khoR: looks like the brokenness is on the clientside 05:36 I get sane values from ctrl+x 05:36 FIQ: You're not alive, just undead. 05:36 Mandevil: I also have -10 def 05:36 0 dex 05:36 and my gold is ^B647 05:36 And you're lawful wizard? 05:36 and 24/20pw 05:36 Yeah 05:37 I dont know what that means 05:37 It means Fourk is buggy? 05:37 I think I will hold off playing 4k for now 05:40 wait 05:40 what 05:40 xDDD 05:40 my pet breathed ice, missed a monster 05:40 but the game still told me he killed it? 05:41 im also dipping this cloak getting no messages 05:53 dipping in a fountain? 05:56 yes 05:56 FIQH feels weird today 05:56 fixed the fountain thing 05:56 I played enough nethack to know something is fucky 05:56 What do you mean? 05:57 the lack of "Your * gets wet" 05:57 NH4 in general made those things weird 05:57 fiqhack fixed it someewhat 05:57 but I forgot that message 05:57 sorry 05:59 pushed a fix 05:59 !tell K2 FIQHack updated 05:59 Will do, FIQ! 06:01 khoR: can you give me msglog of the miss thing? 06:01 winter wolf missing and yet killing 06:03 well the message says he hits 06:03 but the graphic on the screen missed 06:03 and there was no corpse 06:03 So, no issue? 06:03 What do you mean the graphics missed? 06:03 The graphics make no difference on whether or not something hits or not 06:03 Unless the target resists 06:03 which does a sparkle animation 06:07 the dog makes like 06:07 a white line 06:07 yes 06:07 that represents the frost berath 06:07 breath* 06:07 indeed 06:07 that didnt hit the rat 06:07 and I got a message saying he hit the rat and killed it 06:07 but the rat was fine and next to me 06:07 and I killed it after that 06:07 it must've hit the rat 06:07 or maybe it stopped 1 short? 06:08 it didnt 06:08 might be an off-by-1 issue 06:08 wat 06:08 like 06:08 how far away was it 06:08 did the ray stop short 1 tile before the rat? 06:09 no 06:09 Can you like 06:09 check the replay somehow? 06:09 ctrl+c 06:09 then i 06:10 use pageup 06:10 to go back 50 turns 06:10 how 06:10 until roughly where itwas 06:10 how to use pageup? 06:10 by pressing the key 06:10 if you can't 06:10 use ctrl+g 06:10 oh 06:10 I didnt read the pageup 06:10 xD 06:11 its here 06:11 oh 06:11 so? :p 06:11 I think a third rat stepped into the door 06:12 yeah 06:12 I didnt see that 06:12 looks OK to me 06:12 and it didnt leave corpse 06:12 indeed 06:12 this replay mode is sick btw 06:12 btw I should add turncount to msglog 06:12 probably 07:16 khoR: why is there 2 khoRs here? 07:16 one is me 07:16 the other is... 07:16 my phone I think 07:17 ah 07:18 I think there is something wrong with my attempt at adding a turncount to msg history 07:18 FIQhack updated 07:18 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-10-02 21:15 EDT: pushed fixs 07:18 K2: Message from aosdict at 2017-10-02 21:19 EDT: pushed fiqs 07:18 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-10-03 05:59 EDT: FIQHack updated 07:18 Well, at least the internals work as they should 07:18 But I need to figure out how msg history works 07:19 home.fiq.se/this_is_fine.png 07:19 http://home.fiq.se/this_is_fine.png 07:19 the idea is to have turncount on the left 07:19 it isn't working :P 07:58 -!- nht has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:58 -!- nht has joined #hardfought 08:34 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 08:36 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 08:36 is it worth killing illurien? 08:36 I have no doubt I can easily kill her but I'm not sure if I want to 08:36 harassment sounds more annoying than anything else 08:38 ais523: So I've been working on getting a turncount in msghistory 08:38 It kind of works 08:39 But has some issues that are nontrivial to solve 08:39 Namely, is there a way to know if messages should logically be seperated with a new line? 08:39 And it wasn't just a result of it being too long? 08:39 FIQ: you could add one, I guess 08:39 ais523: Message from FIQ at 2017-10-03 03:15 EDT: You could piggyback on displacement logic 08:39 ais523: Message from FIQ at 2017-10-03 03:16 EDT: @ "ais523 │ that would be a nightmare to code" regarding a cantrip about making an illusion of yourself 08:40 Also I have window dimension issues due to how the game currently figures this out 08:40 Not sure on the best solution here 08:40 have an extra field in the message memory for whether the message was split 08:40 note that that message code is something like the fourth attempt to write working message code 08:40 Well basically 08:40 it's much, much harder than it seems, due to all the potential corner cases with --More-- placement 08:40 Adding turncount throws off the wrapping 08:40 So i need to create my own wrapping code 08:40 if you want the turncount to actually appear on screen 08:41 That itself is easy 08:41 alongside each message 08:41 But I need to figure out the best way to work with the current message code otherwise 08:41 ais523: I was thinking for message history 08:41 It would be cluttered to have as part of normal message flow 08:41 if it's just message history, the simplest solution is to prepend a turncount to each message and just rewrap the entire message history 08:41 there's a function for doing that 08:41 [dnh] rikerw (Bar Inc Mal Cha) killed Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:16737 08:42 This is how it looks atm: http://home.fiq.se/msghistory_turncount.png 08:42 ais523: But that would make turncount appear in the middle of messages 08:42 Which is far from optimal 08:42 I want it neatly organized, like in that screenshot 08:43 (The reason window dimensions there is weird has to do with the fact that I so far haven't messed with how the window handling works) 08:43 FIQ: in that case, wrap to a narrower window then add turncounts in the margin 08:43 ais523: Anyway, my issue there is that I want to know that "That door is closed." should each appear on its own line 08:43 [dnh] rikerw (Bar Inc Mal Cha) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:16860 08:43 Not like how it looks like here 08:43 Oh, you can do that? 08:44 Nice, that means I don't have to add my own message wrap handler 08:44 possibly not directly, but the width is effectively an input into the wrapping code 08:44 even if it isn't actually an input, all you need to do is make it a parameter 08:44 the game needs to be able to rewrap to varying window sizes in case the screen gets resized narrower than the current message area width 08:44 Right 08:44 Makes sense 08:45 Hmm 08:45 But there is one issue that comes to mind 08:46 How do I deal with cases where there is several messages on a single line with different turncounts? 08:48 FIQ: DCSS uses the _ separator. 08:49 Mandevil: The issue isn't in message handling in general (but with that said, NH4 has no seperator at all of some kind in those cases) 08:49 But rather, what turncount do I report? Or do I split the messages somehow line-wise? 08:49 FIQ: IIRC, reflowing messages will knock those onto separate lines anyway 08:49 at the time it felt like a bug but one that's so minor that it isn't worth fixing 08:49 right now it almost seems like a feature 08:49 ok 08:50 hmm 08:50 also another issue 08:50 for some reason, show_msgwin_core works *backwards* 08:50 this is kind of not a reasonable workflow if one wants turncount displa 08:50 y 08:50 and I'm not sure why it does 08:50 as in 08:51 it will put the last lines *first* 08:51 in the code flow 08:51 there's a lot of debate about message ordering, IIRC 08:51 that isn't my point 08:51 (also there is an option to switch order) 08:51 but rather 08:51 the control flow for message history 08:51 starts by working on the last messages 08:51 and then working itself backwards 08:52 rather than the more logical, "start from the beginning" 08:52 FIQ: there's probably a good algorithmic reason; as I said earlier, it's very hard to create working message code 08:52 ok 08:52 but IIRC message history works by a) reflowing, /then/ b) printing the messages 08:52 so the position of all the messages should already be determined by the time it starts printing 08:53 well the reason this is problematic for me is that it makes it an unneccessarily complicated step to add a turncount appropriately :P 08:53 since you'd want those on top, not at the bottom 08:54 i.e. "T:2 msg1\nmsg2\nmsg3" rather than "msg1\nmsg2\nT:2 msg3" 08:54 hmm 08:54 I wonder if things will Just Work if I swap the order 08:54 FIQ: it's not printing msg1\nmsg2\nmsg3 anyway 08:54 ais523: oh I think I know the reason 08:55 it's placing the messages at specific coordinates 08:55 performance 08:55 you don't want every single message to have to redo the entire history 08:55 so what you do is you let it place msg1 and msg2 and msg3 and then you print the turncount in the margin afterwards 08:55 just to place 1 new message 08:55 nothing wrong with doing it in message history, but it gets awkward otherwise 09:01 [dnh] rikerw (Bar Inc Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Center of All, on T:19144 09:01 that was a very awkward fight 09:02 cool 09:02 it works 09:02 well 09:02 the turn insertion thingy works 09:02 just need to change the wrapping logic 09:03 ais523: thanks, btw, you made it much easier :) 09:04 the code's much easier to read if you already know what it does ;-) 09:04 * :-) 09:05 right 09:06 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: It seems most convenient to apologise for my connection in the quit message, given how often it comes up… If I immediately reconnect, it's probably because I could send but not receive.] 09:06 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 09:15 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:17 -!- nht has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:17 -!- nht has joined #hardfought 09:23 @d?hellcat 09:23 No such monster. 09:28 great, olog hai generate in groups of 20 or so 09:37 FIQ: regarding the djinn king thing, I said it seems like it does address the balance issues there, especially if wishes are limited, but flavor-wise it seems like it doesn't fit into vanilla (would fit nicely into dnethack though). 09:38 ah 09:43 hmm 09:43 ok so what I have works.. kinda 09:43 but turncount is killed 09:44 let's see what I can do about that 09:44 ok this should fix it 09:51 !tell K2 Pushed FIQHack update 09:51 Will do, FIQ! 09:55 heh, read that as "minor UI addiction" 09:55 lol 09:55 :P 10:09 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 10:11 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 10:11 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 10:33 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9] 10:36 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: getting food] 10:39 EPI: if you break a chest/box that's on a fountain, everything falls into the water with appropriate damage 10:40 (rust, blanking, diluting) 10:40 brought to you by doing exactly that and being surprised that the spellbook ws intact 10:45 yah i did that when a fountain overflowed and sunk my stash 10:46 it was a while before i could fish it out too 10:46 -!- K2-webirc has joined #hardfought 10:47 FIQ 10:47 I sense that there's another update for FIQhack 10:48 there is, yes 10:48 lol 10:48 i was being funny... there really is isn't there 10:49 "FIQ │ !tell K2 Pushed FIQHack update" 10:49 heh 10:49 you know me ;) 10:49 i'll be able to get to it later today 10:49 sorry for the hassle 10:49 true ;) 10:49 no need to apologise 10:49 its never a hassle 10:49 just let me update remotely, I promise that I am completely trustable ;) 10:50 heh 10:50 [dnh] rikerw (Bar Inc Mal Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:24498 10:50 go rikersan! 10:52 FIQ: that pet AI fix you pushed for dnethack, is that something that other variants could use also? or was it just dnethack 10:57 k2L >.> 10:57 *k2: 10:57 he's stupidly easy 10:57 which is kinda hte point but eh 10:57 I'm probably just going to ignore chaos for right now and grab the crystals 10:57 I still want to go back for the silver key, but the alhoons are _evil_ 10:58 I should really blessed geno h for the mind flayers 10:58 K2-webirc: it is global 10:58 oh shit I remembered why I was putting htis off: still no unihorn :/ 10:58 I pushed a more conservative version of the fix (to maximize potential of merge) in 3.6 10:59 dNH has the raw fix 10:59 ok 10:59 the raw fix has one major drawback 10:59 was thinking of applying it to grunthack and sporkhack 10:59 depending on whether or not you care 10:59 lets hear it 10:59 pets can get stuck in certain kinds of corridors they don't generally get stuck in with the old system 11:00 however, this is of no real gameplay impact 11:00 besides stuff looking silly in monster detection 11:00 if they are in a situation where they would get stuck in the new code 11:00 they'd just never find you in the old one anyway 11:01