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00:43 <raisse> WHAMMM!!!  You hear the chime of a cash register.
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01:15 <Beholder> [nd] Raisse (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 2130 points, T:6031, killed by a soldier ant
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01:39 <FIQ> raisse: pretty loud register
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07:00 <FIQ> !tell K2 fh updated
07:00 <Beholder> Will do, FIQ!
07:15 <raisse> elenmirie: got your ghost in the minetown deli
07:15 <raisse> tamed Coco
07:16 <raisse> You drop a scroll called scare.  Petal seems uninterested.  Petal turns to flee.
07:17 <raisse> er, and inadvertently read the wrong scroll and made him angry
07:18 <raisse> (it was a scroll of fire and I was standing next to him)
07:19 <jonadab> I am sure that will end well.
07:32 <raisse> it already ended, badly, by means of Petal's wand of magic missile.
07:32 <jonadab> Yeah, that sounds about right.
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07:41 <K2-webirc> morning
07:52 <FIQ> morning
07:54 <K2-webirc> saw your fh update msg
07:54 <K2-webirc> will be a few hours before I can get to it
08:01 <Beholder> [nd] Raisse (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 2818 points, T:6888, killed by a killer bee
08:50 <Beholder> [dyn] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 373 points, T:1169, killed by a hobgoblin
09:07 <Beholder> [gh] k2 (Mon Elf Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:15740
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09:10 <K2-webirc> wait wtf
09:10 <K2-webirc> I threw a shuriken at a wraith
09:11 <K2-webirc> i wasn't wielding anything
09:11 <K2-webirc> gdammit
09:11 <jonadab> New bug to track down!
09:12 <K2-webirc> i suppose so
09:12 <jonadab> It'll likely have something to do with u.uconduct.weaphit
09:13 <jonadab> This would be easier to track down in a variant that has break_conduct()
09:16 <jonadab> Probably the one in thitmonst in dothrow.c
09:16 <K2-webirc> so it's not just a livelog reporting issue, the game thinks I've actually broken the conduct
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09:24 <K2-webirc> hmm
09:29 <K2-webirc> will have to look at it later
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09:33 <FIQ> YANI: (race) bards. Spawns with a instrument (rarely magical) and a group of racial monsters. Keeps distance and plays songs to buff allies
09:35 <aos> I need to examine the STRAT_* code in vanilla
09:36 <FIQ> it is buggy
09:36 <FIQ> messy
09:36 <FIQ> and bad
09:36 <aos> right now, I don't think there's any strategy that says "keep some distance away, but don't actually flee"
09:36 <FIQ> it was one of not a lot of engine parts that completely rewritten in nethack4
09:36 <FIQ> *that was
09:38 <FIQ> aos: FIQhack has monsters that try to pursue having a line towards you -- basically reverse unicorns. It is used for lowlevel casters (since they have no melee attacks) and part of dragon strategy
09:38 <aos> wonder if the devteam/paxed would accept pull requests just to clean up code like this
09:38 <FIQ> It doesn't use the strategy logic though
09:38 <aos> because it's something I want to fix, but I don't see the point if the code just languishes
09:39 <FIQ> Instead it is implemented as part of the base AI. This could probably be improved
09:40 <FIQ> but considering this is a shortterm tactic, and STRAT_* is more longterm thinking (what is the ultimate goal of a monster at the moment) I think this is ok
09:41 <FIQ> aos: in vanilla, STRAT_* is only ever used for covetous purposes. NH4 uses it as longterm goal marks for monsters
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09:45 <raisse> can't you read, elenmirie's ghost?
09:45 <elenmirie> Probably not, I'm playing illiterate :D
09:45 <raisse> lol
09:46 <raisse> well, these letters say "Elbereth" and mean "please let me go downstairs without you"
09:46 <FIQ> hahaha
09:46 <raisse> argh didn't help, died from sudden hill orcs
09:49 <FIQ> EPI: giants with pickaxes make pits for you to fall into. If you do, they will throw a boulder towards you, burying you
09:50 <raisse> is that instakill or can you dig/teleport/pray your way out?
09:50 <raisse> like being stuck in rock
09:50 <FIQ> Well, in EPI context, it would naturally be an instakill. If implemented more sanely, it would probably work like the deferred vanilla feature
09:50 <FIQ> which allows these things
09:51 <FIQ> but it starts a suffocation timer
09:55 <jonadab> Logically, when buried in rock, you shouldn't be able to take actions that require having limbs free.  Such as digging with a pick-axe, zapping a wand, etc.
09:55 <jonadab> Which fits in perfectly with Evil Patch nastiness.
09:55 <FIQ> I'd argue that you could possibly reach a wand of digging in open inventory
09:56 <FIQ> But inside bags, or using pickaxes, yeah no
09:56 <raisse> or a teleport scroll, or put a ring on
09:56 <raisse> and you could definitely read teleport if you've read it before (because you also can when blind) or ^t if you have teleport at will
09:57 <raisse> and prayer should work
09:57 <jonadab> "It's dark in this rock.  You cannot read.  You are being crushed and cannot breathe."
09:57 <raisse> you can recite runes while blind
09:59 <FIQ> jonadab: when is 4k going to have offensive CM :P
10:01 <FIQ> if you apply a cursed tin whistle in minetown, the watch should turn hostile
10:01 <aos> raisse: that doesn't break illit, right?
10:02 <aos> but you need to have a shopkeeper tell you the label
10:02 <FIQ> or don't be blind while you see the label
10:02 <FIQ> see the label
10:02 <FIQ> go blind
10:02 <FIQ> read it
10:02 <FIQ> doesn't break illit
10:02 <FIQ> very dubious 3.6.x change IMO
10:02 <aos> I was thinking of zen
10:02 <FIQ> ah
10:03 <raisse> I didn't know that, I only know that if you've read it before you don't need to see it to read another one
10:03 <FIQ> that said I think this illit change is very dubious
10:03 <FIQ> elenmirie: did you know this btw?
10:03 <raisse> so you just shout VENZAR BORGAVVE or something?
10:04 <aos> flavor-wise it's probably that that isn't the magic spell itself, rather that those are the magical words that unlock the scroll's magic
10:04 <aos> magic magic magic
10:05 <elenmirie> FIQ: no.  TBH it seems not in the true spirit of illiteracy
10:05 <elenmirie> but that doesn't mean I won't try it.
10:05 <FIQ> indeed
10:05 <FIQ> um
10:05 <FIQ> you don't even need to be blind
10:05 <FIQ> this makes no sense
10:06 <aos> raisse: therefore you can yell VENZAR BORGAVVE all you want but it doesn't do anything unless you have the corresponding scroll
10:06 <FIQ> hmm
10:06 <FIQ> this change was introduced in 2015
10:07 <FIQ> but I can't find it in current code
10:07 * FIQ git blame
10:08 <FIQ> ah
10:08 <FIQ> found it
10:08 <FIQ> it was introduced very briefly
10:09 <FIQ> it existed for all of 3 commits
10:09 <FIQ> before it was reverted
10:09 <FIQ> thankfully
10:09 <FIQ> a5c63af579c5b5ce8039de502a95651a77457a14 reverted it
10:09 <jonadab> FIQ: offensive what now?
10:10 <FIQ> create monster
10:11 <jonadab> Oh.
10:11 <jonadab> Heh.
10:11 <jonadab> Probably when I rebase on FIQHack.
10:12 <jonadab> So likely version 4.3.1
10:12 <jonadab> Err, 4.3.1.0
10:12 <FIQ> ah
10:12 <FIQ> but it's a simple change ;)
10:16 <jonadab> It's a simple code change, with non-simple balance implications.
10:16 <jonadab> Which will therefore likely facilitate other changes.
10:17 <jonadab> And there's no point duplicating all that.
10:18 <jonadab> Besides, Fourk has the damage reduction nerf.  Players can complain about _that_ for Fourk, and create monster explosions for FIQHack.
10:23 <jonadab> Except, of course, for the people who just want to comlain about the Wands Balance Patch.
10:25 <FIQ> heh
10:26 <FIQ> but there's not that many that complain on that
10:27 <jonadab> FIQ: Well, one person in particular complains more about that than all other persons in the universe combined.
10:27 <jonadab> But I've had complaints about it from at least half a dozen people, I think.
10:27 <jonadab> Not as many as with my Elbereth nerfs.
10:37 <FIQ> I see
10:37 <FIQ> I think wand balance has received the most complaints overall in fh
10:37 <FIQ> 2nd most being the CM change
10:37 <FIQ> On multiple occasions, after multiple sets of nerfs
10:37 <FIQ> but I think it's in an OK state atm
10:38 <FIQ> Not that many complaints otherwise, as I recall. Then again, FIQhack has less player-exposed changes than 4k
10:38 <FIQ> jonadab: allthough I'm surprised alignment record changes hasn't received more complaints than anything else
10:39 <FIQ> it's easily the most frustrating part of playing 4k IMO :P
10:42 <jonadab> Actually, that's received some fair portion of complaints too.
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10:45 <FIQ> jonadab: 8ff02c11d9979497396d4921bf0d7cf81808c5d1 3.6.1 commit might be relevant for you
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11:31 <Beholder> [slex] morgoth (Wiz Hum Fem Law), 441 points, T:487, killed by a monster (spider magus)
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11:54 <Beholder> [gh] k2 (Mon Elf Mal Neu), 54286 points, T:16126, killed by a winter wolf cub
11:54 <K2-webirc> on purpose
11:54 <K2-webirc> so pissed... hate that whole conduct bug thing bleh
11:56 <K2-webirc> irks me ;)
12:08 <jonadab> K2-webirc: We'll have to figure out the thit code to fix it.
12:08 <K2-webirc> agreed
12:08 <jonadab> That will be "fun".
12:09 <K2-webirc> I looked at the code (dothrow) but it wasn't readily apparent to me what the issue was
12:09 <K2-webirc> other than it looked like a blanket 'if you hit a monster with anything, conduct brken'
12:09 <K2-webirc> *broken
12:10 <K2-webirc> as evidenced, if I am going for a specific conduct(s) and I accidentally break it, or from a bug, etc, i'll lose on purpose
12:11 <jonadab> Yeah, the trick is to figure out how to distinguish between thrown and wielded items in that code.
12:11 <FIQ> there is a variable for this purpose
12:11 <FIQ> it's named "thrown"
12:11 <jonadab> Oh, is it that simple?
12:11 <jonadab> Add a thrown && on the beginning of the condition?
12:12 <K2-webirc> i don't know
12:12 <jonadab> I can't really look at it in any detail right now, because I'm on circ desk today.
12:12 <K2-webirc> if you look at grunthacks src/dothrow around line 1450 or so, you'll see the livelog message about the conduct being broken
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12:12 <jonadab> K2-webirc: Yes, I found that.
12:13 <jonadab> But I hadn't looked at the surrounding code much yet.
12:13 <K2-webirc> gotcha
12:13 <K2-webirc> its not a critical bug, but it is annoying, so we should probably tackle it sooner rather than later
12:14 <K2-webirc> there aren't any other variants that have that particular conduct bug are there?
12:14 <K2-webirc> i don't think 3.4.3 does
12:17 <Beholder> [slex] dolores (Kur Trp Fem Law), 0 points, T:9, killed by a monster (invisible beauty), while being clawed
12:17 <loli> guys I got the worst score!
12:17 <loli> 0 points
12:17 <K2-webirc> \o/
12:18 * K2-webirc plays to lose
12:18 <K2-webirc> usually with strip poker
12:18 <K2-webirc> but sometimes nethack
12:19 <FIQ> there is a reason the conduct break is there in do throw
12:19 <FIQ> polearms
12:19 <FIQ> will investigate later
12:19 <K2-webirc> I am surprised Amy hasn't allowed negative scores in slex
12:19 <FIQ> afk
12:19 <FIQ> NH4 allows it
12:19 <K2-webirc> FIQ: ok, was wondering if grunt put that in there on purpose
12:26 <jonadab> K2-webirc: It's probably a bug.  That section of the code is _complicated_.
12:26 <jonadab> Quick, off the top of your head, which wands are handled by the same code as thrown daggers, and which ones are handled by completely different code?
12:28 <Grasshopper> loli: congrats
12:30 <K2-webirc> um
12:30 <loli> thanks gr
12:30 <K2-webirc> striking
12:30 <loli> Grasshopper: 
12:30 <K2-webirc> err
12:31 <K2-webirc> any wand that shoots a ray
12:31 <jonadab> K2-webirc: I think it's all the beam wands.
12:31 <jonadab> So striking, polymorph, etc.
12:31 <K2-webirc> so most of them
12:32 <Beholder> [dyn] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 1046 points, T:3050, killed by a shattered potion
12:32 <jonadab> K2-webirc: Well, but _not_ things like fire and cold, those are rays.
12:33 <K2-webirc> ray != beams then
12:33 <jonadab> Just don't ask which of these bits of code handles gaze attacks.
12:33 <jonadab> ray is reflectable, beam is not reflectable.
12:33 <K2-webirc> which bits of code handle gaze attacks?
12:33 <K2-webirc> :P
12:33 <jonadab> I think it's the same as beam, but I'm not sure.  Ask FIQ.
12:34 <jonadab> Also, camera flashes, and I forget which else.
12:34 <jonadab> And thrown weapons, as mentioned.
12:34 <K2-webirc> but some gaze attacks are reflectable, some are not
12:34 <jonadab> I know.
12:34 <jonadab> It's weird.
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13:29 <FIQ> hi
13:29 <Beholder> Hello FIQ, Welcome to #hardfought
13:29 <FIQ> jonadab: thankfully not
13:30 <FIQ> a ton of shit is in that function
13:30 <FIQ> but not gaze attacks
13:30 <FIQ> gaze attacks is handled in the xhity code
13:30 <FIQ> with the obligatory 3 copies with nearly identical code
13:32 <FIQ> oh boy
13:32 <FIQ> I had forgotten that
13:33 <FIQ> thank you jonadab for reminding me of how horrible the pre-fh beam code is
13:33 <FIQ> THROWN_WEAPOn, KICKED_WEAPON, camera flashes, mirrors, and what the community refer to as beam wands/spells (called IMMEDIATE for some reason in the code)
13:33 <FIQ> all in the same function
13:34 <jonadab> Personally, I think beams should be handled by the same code as rays, with a can_reflect boolean.
13:35 <FIQ> meh
13:35 <FIQ> they work completely different
13:35 <FIQ> camera flashes share more properties with rays than beams do
13:35 <FIQ> I mean, it's not like the buzz code is that well designed in theory
13:36 <FIQ> but in practice the code isn't that horrible if you throw out the disintegration stuff from it
13:36 <FIQ> fiqhack salvaged buzz and made it somewhat workable
13:36 <FIQ> on the other hand it rewrote beam handling/etc from scratch
13:37 <Beholder> [nd] Grasshopper (Cav Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:74321
13:38 <jonadab> Hmm.
13:39 <FIQ> buzz's main problem is its completely messed up parameters
13:39 <FIQ> specifically, the way it wants ray type
13:40 <FIQ> /* type ==   0 to   9 : you shooting a wand */
13:40 <FIQ> /* type ==  10 to  19 : you casting a spell */
13:40 <FIQ> /* type ==  20 to  29 : you breathing as a monster */
13:40 <FIQ> /* type == -10 to -19 : monster casting spell */
13:40 <FIQ> /* type == -20 to -29 : monster breathing at you */
13:40 <FIQ> /* type == -30 to -39 : monster shooting a wand */
13:41 <jonadab> Yes.
13:41 <FIQ> plus dependency on internal object order for wands, spells
13:41 <FIQ> and order of attacks
13:41 <jonadab> That should be several distinct parameters/arguments.
13:41 <FIQ> bonus points for dragons also being order-dependant.. using a completely different order
13:42 <jonadab> rayelement, raysourcetype (wand, spell, breath, etc.), blame.
13:42 <FIQ> jonadab: as a stopgap I made
13:42 <FIQ>     int buzztyp = abs(type) % 30; /* % 30 to catch -30-39 */
13:43 <FIQ> then I can pretend that the parameter doesn't exist
13:43 <FIQ> and get the useful info
13:43 <jonadab> Yeah, but.
13:43 <FIQ> in 99% of the cases
13:45 <FIQ> the other issue is that the source of the ray isn't passed to buzz
13:46 <FIQ> I solve this by first checking if it's a temple lightning spell (one of the rare cases where I need the full numeric parameter)
13:46 <FIQ> and if not, check where the ray started
13:50 <FIQ> jonadab: sometimes I've considered making a common interface for elemental type and source
13:50 <FIQ> using monattk
13:50 <FIQ> with special attack types for items
13:50 <FIQ> AT_SPEL AT_WAND, etc
13:57 <jonadab> That kind of makes sense.
14:36 <aos> !tell LarienTelrunya if slex doesn't already have something defined for "noob", end-of-game enlightenment should say "You were a noob" if you died with 0 points.
14:36 <Beholder> Will do, aos!
15:02 <K2> hi
15:02 <Beholder> Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought
15:02 <Beholder> K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-09-14 07:00 EDT: fh updated
15:04 <K2> FIQhack updated
15:14 <Beholder> [nd] Grasshopper (Cav Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:75559
15:15 <Beholder> [4k] Zappi (philbo) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1707 points, T:804, killed by a dwarf
15:15 <aos> now what use does a caveman have for a writing tool?
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15:20 <Nimblr> Doing an assignment for my Statistics class, if you have a moment please fill out the survey (made by me) in the following link:  https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdVrLUu2zLxNZCCtWtzTcbGsF6Ws7w9BZBYeKILHZgKuBt7AQ/viewform?usp=sf_link
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15:22 <aos> what
15:38 <Grasshopper> I'm saving all my moments for myself, sorry
15:39 <Grasshopper> You survey may be short, but so is life
15:39 <Grasshopper> you/your
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18:20 <jonadab> K2, Tangles, anyone else interested in the technical and hosting side of devnull:  someone posted this over in #junethack.  https://twitter.com/devnull_nethack/status/908441635746279424  
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18:31 <Elronnd> jonadab: wait whaaaaat?
18:31 <Elronnd> ...whyy D:
18:32 <ais523> Elronnd: krystal was clearly struggling more and more to host it as time goes on
18:32 <Elronnd> yeah
18:32 <Elronnd> but it's a real shame that it's ending now, after so long
18:32 * Elronnd wishes it could at least have gone on for a full 20 years.  Just a couple more years to go!
18:37 <jonadab> Personally, I am not in the right skill class to even think about devnull, the June tournament stretches my limits significantly.
18:37 <Elronnd> what skills do you need to think about devnull?
18:37 <Tangles> I'm with Elronnd on this. I think we all knew that krystal was struggling, but there were a number of us positioning to take up the load.
18:38 <Tangles> I reached out to krystal multiple times about this, and got nothing back.
18:38 <jonadab> Elronnd: Think about actually participating, I mean.
18:39 <Tangles> Why would he make a public announcement like this without even replying to the emails of those trying to help him first?
18:40 <Elronnd> ikr
18:40 <Elronnd> last junethack he made an announcement.  I sent an email saying I'd be happy to help -- no reply
18:40 <Tangles> jonadab: I don't understand where your perception comes from that you need a certain skill level to play devnull.
18:41 <Tangles> This is no more true for devnull than it is for junethack.
18:41 <ais523> junethack is arguably harder
18:41 <jonadab> Tangles: Don't most of the trophies in devnull require doing multiple ascensions?
18:41 <ais523> unless you restrict yourself to AceHack and NH4
18:42 <ais523> jonadab: I guess so? it depends on what you're aiming for though
18:42 <Tangles> jonadab: no more than for the june tournament.
18:42 <jonadab> Hmm.
18:42 <ais523> Tangles: there might still be time to persuade krystal to pass the reins of "official /dev/null/nethack" onto someone else
18:42 <jonadab> I took one look at the list of trophies and noped out.
18:42 <Tangles> and _none_ of the trophies require you to ascend slex :P
18:43 <ais523> jonadab: bear in mind that the top trophies are rarely obtained by anyone
18:43 <ais523> full monty is basically never done, for example
18:43 <ais523> even if you allow no-bells
18:45 <aos> Are we talking difficulty of running the tournament, or difficulty of playing it?
18:46 <jonadab> Tangles: Heh, ok, fair point.
18:47 <jonadab> aos: difficulty of running the tournament is immaterial for whether I'd play or not.
18:47 <jonadab> I just really had the impression that the devnull tournament was way more hardcore.
18:47 <Tangles> jonadab: the pool challenge opens on dungeon level 4... it gets harder from there.
18:47 <jonadab> junethack feels _reasonably_ friendly for a player who can't really hope to ascend in a month.  There are other ways to contribute.
18:48 <jonadab> Tangles: incidentally, how far did you guys get porting the challenges and stuff to 3.6?  Is that complete?
18:48 <aos> the challenge always seemed like a weird thing to me... if you want to focus on making lots of ascensions with different combinations and stuff like that, disrupting the game with a challenge seems weird
18:49 <Tangles> jonadab: Yes, that was all done.
18:49 <aos> though I can see why disrupting the game could be the whole point
18:49 <ais523> aos: the challenges were intended to give players something to do if they weren't good enough at NetHack to ascend normally
18:49 <jonadab> New challenge for 2017: you must do a Brogue mastery with the max number of lumenstones.
18:50 <Tangles> aos: also to add some uniqueness and flavour to the tournament.
18:50 <jonadab> ais523: Ah, interesting, I did not realize taht.
18:50 <jonadab> *that
18:50 <ais523> admittedly I don't really care much for most of them
18:51 <ais523> I wonder if krystal would be open to someone else taking over the website subdomain and continuing the challenge "as though it were official" but on a completely new codebase
19:07 <Tangles> ais523: Yeah I guess there has already been some thinking along those lines.  Mandevil has done some work on a new codebase for the website, and we have all the code that runs on the game servers.
19:07 <Tangles> but nobody has heard boo from krystal until today.
19:08 <Tangles> anyway I have to go to work, but I'll keep an eye on this through the day.
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19:21 <hothraxxa> hrm. based on events, i'd like to put forth the theory that krystal does not read email, or at least the email sent to the address you guys have been using
19:22 <hothraxxa> he does however seem to use twitter. perhaps an approach there might be fruitful
19:22 <hothraxxa> an orderly passing of the mantle would be nice
19:36 <Tangles> hothraxxa: It's the email he told us to use when he asked for volunteers. But no it seems he does not read it.
19:37 <K2> hi
19:37 <Beholder> Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought
19:38 * K2 starts reading backscroll
19:40 <Tangles> And yes, he may or may not look at responses to the tweet.
19:40 <Tangles> Will this finally be the thing that makes me sign up to twitter?
19:41 <K2> wow
19:41 <K2> well... alrighty then
19:42 <K2> Tangles/Mandevil, I'll host if you guys still want to keep devnull alive
19:42 <K2> count me in
19:44 <K2> Tangles: what email were you using to send msgs to krystal?
19:44 <Tangles> Hmm it's been a while. Let me trawl my sent items.
19:45 <K2> krystal@devnull.net sound right?
19:45 <Tangles> Yes I tried that one.
19:46 <K2> that's what shows on her domain registrar/admin info
19:46 <K2> i have a name, an address and a phone number
19:46 <K2> plus the email
19:46 <Tangles> also volunteer@nethack.devnull.net
19:47 <jonadab> Tangles: My advice is, only use Twitter through something like twirssi or bitlbee.  Under no circumstances attempt to use the Twitter web interface.  It is horrific.
19:48 <Tangles> K2: his.
19:48 <K2> name i'm looking at could go either way
19:48 <K2> ;)
19:48 <Tangles> Yeah
19:48 <Tangles> No way to know, unless you know.
19:50 <aos> well I thought Tangles was a more feminine name until I saw K2 and others consistently using male pronouns to refer to you :)
19:50 <K2> heh
19:50 <K2> domain is paid up thru feb next year
19:51 <K2> was registered over 20 yrs ago. nice
19:53 <Tangles> aos: I was dubbed "Tangles" by my roomies in '91 after this guy: http://www.maxwalker.com.au/
19:54 <K2> i love nickname stories
19:54 <Tangles> He was a prominent commentator of cricket at the time (was well past his days as a player), but the guys thought I sounded like him when I spoke.
19:55 <K2> ;)
19:57 <FIQ> Who is krystal?
19:57 <FIQ> Oh
19:57 <FIQ> devnull admin
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20:14 <K2> what happened to Chris_ANG? he go on vacation? :P
20:29 <jonadab> Didn't he fall off the face of the planet last year around this time only to emerge in the last two days before junethack with updates?
21:27 <K2> perhaps
21:35 <aos> !seen Chris_ANG
21:36 <K2> function doesnt exist
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21:42 <aos> I can just use the irc logs :)
21:43 <aos> last thing he said was aug 27
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22:21 <Beholder> [nd] Grasshopper (Cav Dwa Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Anu, on T:75780
22:22 <Grasshopper> wow, got gifted Frostbane, immediately sacc a silver dragon and get "reconciliation" again
22:22 <K2> \o/
22:22 <Grasshopper> which is amazing as I've been crowned already
22:23 <Grasshopper> I already have Grays and the Sceptre so I don't really need more weapons
22:23 <Grasshopper> just making/saccing monsters to train up my boomerang skillz
22:24 <Beholder> [dnh] k2 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 20645 points, T:5787, killed by a hill orc
22:25 <Grasshopper> ooops
22:25 <K2> old game
22:25 * K2 shrugs
22:58 <oh6> good old rnz()
23:12 <Beholder> [slex] Yuring (Pok Dro Fem Neu), 83086 points, T:12749, killed by a monster (hallucinogen-distorted dark elf)
23:16 <Beholder> [nd] Grasshopper (Cav Dwa Fem Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Anu, on T:76425
23:17 <Tangles> Finally you have a serious weapon!
23:18 <bug_sniper> now don't let a centaur prince kill you by shooting 5 arrows at you in a single turn
23:18 <bug_sniper> that happens a lot in slashem extended
23:20 <Grasshopper> Tangles: yes, finally, now I feel ready to ascend
23:21 <Grasshopper> I can ditch the crappy Grayswandir and Sceptre of Might, and ascend with the mighty Ogremuncher thingy
23:22 <Grasshopper> except that there aren't any ogres in the end game anyway so nvm
23:22 <Tangles> lol
23:23 <Grasshopper> Before that, Anu just gifted me a stained spellbook - I was hoping for Playboy September 1985 (Madonna issue), but bah it was just polymorph
23:25 <Tangles> lol
23:29 <Tangles> pre-stained by Anu... do you really want that?
23:30 <Grasshopper> Tangles: Jesus is the son of God and he is meant to come twice - imagine what Anu can do (given a little inspiration)?
23:33 <Tangles> I think I'd rather not :P
23:33 <Grasshopper> fair point
23:34 * Grasshopper sprays forum-sanitiser around liberally 
23:43 <Beholder> [nd] Grasshopper (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:76606
23:43 <Beholder> [nd] Grasshopper (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:76607
23:43 <Beholder> [nd] Grasshopper (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:76609
23:46 <Beholder> [nd] Grasshopper (Cav Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:76627
23:49 <bug_sniper> Grasshopper, spray their conservative hive like that some more
23:51 <Tarmunora_> K2: He(Chris_ANG) teaches at a uni/collage I believe