00:00 <loli> such a big function
00:00 <loli> okay
00:01 <loli> bug_sniper: " if(coaligned && !strayed) {"
00:01 <loli> lawful /= coalinged with chaotic 
00:01 <loli> I don't think
00:01 <loli> well
00:01 <loli> the correct syntax is
00:01 <loli> lawful ∈ coalinged with chaotic 
00:01 <loli> lawful ∉ coalinged with chaotic 
00:01 <loli> so not worth
00:03 <bug_sniper> loli, it looks like that only applies to the alignment record gain
00:03 <bug_sniper> since that { isn't in that slex file
00:04 <bug_sniper> https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/blob/4fee8aeac70c15fe99f82bc8aca45811968610b3/src/priest.c#L530 there
00:06 <loli> I wish there were more separations between parts of the priest code, sadly C isn't conducive for making smally scoped functions
00:06 <loli> btw what is "#ifndef GOLDOBJ"?
00:07 <loli> you seem to be right however
00:07 <loli> it should just give it to me
00:07 <bug_sniper> a compiler option to determine whether gold is an object or if it's zorkimids
00:08 <bug_sniper> I know, nethack source code isn't all easy to read
00:10 <loli> okay this guy is gonna die
00:36 <bug_sniper> !lastgame
00:36 <Beholder_> bug_sniper: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jonadab/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-08-21%2021%3A10%3A01%2C%20Freakitsar-Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt
00:36 <Beholder_> [slex] dolores (Ran Ang Fem Cha), 90399 points, T:8774, killed by a monster (ettin mummy)
00:36 <bug_sniper> !lastgame
00:36 <Beholder_> bug_sniper: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dolores/slex/dumplog/1503367508.slex.txt
00:49 <Beholder_> [slex] winny (Yeo Rod Fem Cha), 6124 points, T:1757, quit
00:56 <Beholder_> [slex] winny (Mar Arg Mal Neu), 0 points, T:29, killed by a monster (airplane)
00:57 <loli> @le?airplane
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01:51 <Beholder_> [slex] winny (Gan Seg Fem Law), 4284 points, T:2959, killed by a dart
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02:38 <Beholder_> [slex] winny (Yeo Ang Fem Law), 11092 points, T:1734, killed by a monster (razor pit demon)
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04:04 <Beholder_> [gh] k2 (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:28245
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05:38 <Beholder_> [nd] elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 7263 points, T:5541, killed by an Uruk-hai
05:43 <LarienTelrunya> Evil Patch idea: if a player wishes for an artifact, and said artifact exists in the inventory of any other player currently on the server, either the wish fails, or if it's granted, the artifact is removed from the previous owners' inventory permanently.
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07:00 <Beholder_> [nd] elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 4582 points, T:3467, killed by an orc mummy
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08:35 <Beholder_> [nh] AmyBSOD (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 58 points, T:227, killed by a jackal called I love high heels!
08:37 <LarienTelrunya> hmm, I wonder who "lostsoul" is? they have set their pet dog's name to "Amy", so maybe it's loli?
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08:44 <jonadab> Probably somebody whose pet dog is named Amy IRL.
08:45 <jonadab> Pet dog, or daughter in law.
08:45 <Mandevil> We considered that name for our white swiss shepherd.
08:46 <Mandevil> To be valid name for registration purposes.
08:46 <Mandevil> Eventually decided to register her as Andy and call her Tracy.
08:47 <raisse> oh, had to be an A name for the register?
08:47 <LarienTelrunya> well, considering the "lostsoul" player also set catname to "jonadab" and horsename to "fiq", I think it's probably someone whom I know
08:47 <jonadab> Ah.
08:47 <jonadab> Could be.
08:47 <Mandevil> raisse: Yes, the first litter.
08:47 <Mandevil> LarienTelrunya: Someones niece might be named Jonadab, what do we know...?
08:48 <LarienTelrunya> and their wife is named FIQ? :D
08:48 <LarienTelrunya> Mandevil: maybe you are "lostsoul"? ;)
08:48 <jonadab> Mandevil: The combination of all three is statistically improbable.
08:48 <Mandevil> LarienTelrunya: Maybe I am, but that's not my account.
08:48 <FIQ> maybe it's you
08:48 <FIQ> I know you like to name pets after IRC users
08:49 <jonadab> It's probably beatnik.
08:49 <LarienTelrunya> also, if the actual owner of that account reads here, I've updated https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Lost_soul to reflect that lost soul mode is enabled in the config file, since it was stupid to have it require a specific username
08:49 <LarienTelrunya> FIQ: I do, but my starting pets are always named "Meatdog", "Katzenhund" and "VWScirocco"
08:50 * jonadab names pets after famous mathematicians.
08:50 <jonadab> Starting near the beginning of the alphabet, generally.
08:51 <LarienTelrunya> Abel, Bernoulli and Cauchy?
08:51 <jonadab> So if you see me running around with Sierpinski, you know my pets have had a real rough time that game.
08:51 <jonadab> LarienTelrunya: Yes.
08:51 <jonadab> And then Descartes, Euler, Fermat, Gauss, etc.
08:51 <Mandevil> Hadamard...
08:51 <Tangles> Hilbert,
08:51 <FIQ> interesting
08:51 <Tangles> oh yeah or that
08:52 <Mandevil> My atheist run used names of well known atheist proponents.
08:53 <FIQ> jonadab: if I see you running around witth sierpinski
08:53 <FIQ> then I know you're playing grunthack
08:53 <jonadab> Heh.
08:59 <FIQ> jonadab: how has your fiqhack gameplay been doing btw
09:02 <jonadab> FIQ: Hard to say, because I'm playing a role that I've never ascended in any variant (Monk).
09:02 <jonadab> I keep dying _after_ completing Sokoban and the Mines, but that is not really surprising.
09:03 <jonadab> Because Monk.
09:04 <jonadab> Also, the RNG keeps giving me vorpal blade in shops.
09:04 <jonadab> OR bones.
09:04 <jonadab> I've gotten it from shops at least twice, and from bones at least twice, in like six or eight games.
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09:05 <jonadab> Haven't decided if using it is better than martial arts, when I haven't got the resources to enchant it yet.  Likely not.
09:35 <Mandevil> I fscking hate systemd.
09:37 <Beholder_> [un] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha) killed Durin's Bane, on T:32506
09:37 <jonadab> Mandevil: I've never installed it.  After the pulseaudio debacle, there was no way on earth anybody was going to talk me into using a poetteringed init system.
09:38 <Mandevil> But new distros use it pervasively.
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09:38 <Mandevil> I just troubleshooted why openvpn isn't reading the config.
09:38 <Mandevil> Turns out you need to reload systemd.
09:38 <Mandevil> What the f**k.
09:39 <LarienTelrunya> !lastgame dolores
09:39 <Beholder_> LarienTelrunya: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dolores/slex/dumplog/1503367508.slex.txt
09:54 <Mandevil> openvpn is just not starting after boot no matter what I do.
10:00 <Mandevil> Also something is rewriting the user crontab.
10:02 <Mandevil> I edit something in user crontab and something moves that thing into root's crontab.
10:02 <Mandevil> What the hell is going on!
10:06 <jonadab> Mandevil: I held off on upgrades until Devuan.
10:07 <jonadab> Saved myself the mental trauma.
10:07 <Mandevil> I have no fucking idea what's going on.
10:07 <Mandevil> @reboot line in crontab should execute for any user, right?
10:07 <Mandevil> Or is that only for /etc/crontab?
10:07 <jonadab> Oh, hmm, I have not used @reboot in crontab.
10:08 <jonadab> So not entirely sure.
10:08 <Mandevil> I am pretty sure I used this before and it worked fine.
10:08 <Mandevil> Somehow now it just doesn't execute at all.
10:08 <Mandevil> Oh, I truncated the string during copy.
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10:23 <Beholder_> [un] Tangles (Con Orc Mal Cha) killed the Watcher in the Water, on T:33471
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10:32 <Beholder_> [nd] elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 10948 points, T:5210, petrified by a chickatrice
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10:44 <raisse> eep how did that happen?
10:55 <elenmirie> took off my gloves to uncurse a ring... forgot to put them on again.  *sigh*
10:55 <raisse> eek, and you're a monk of course
10:56 <elenmirie> yes, I punched a chickatrice
10:56 <elenmirie> it was asleep though! :/
10:56 <raisse> doesn't make a difference, awake, asleep or dead
10:56 <elenmirie> indeed
10:56 <raisse> the stoning stuff must be on their skin
10:57 <elenmirie> my thought was "I'll put it to sleep so there's less danger of getting hissed at"
10:57 <raisse> good thought!
11:01 <bug_sniper> did you forget a lizard corpse?
11:01 <elenmirie> no I had one, but punching it with bare hands is instadeath
11:02 <bug_sniper> I guess I'm just used to slashem extended, where is'nt not
11:02 <bug_sniper> *it's
11:04 <elenmirie> but anyway I was vegan, but since it's new moon you need to carry a lizard regardless
11:04 <elenmirie> I normally do anyway; it feels strange not to
11:27 <raisse> You see here a long sword named Vorpal Blade (21332 zorkmids).
11:27 <raisse> well, at least nobody on astral will try to cut off my head with it
11:30 <aosdict> EPI: if a shopkeeper has a powerful artifact in his shop, he will go fetch and wield it first when you anger him.
11:31 <raisse> that's not very E
11:32 <raisse> because most people don't anger shopkeepers, and most people who do anger shopkeepers get killed by them anyway
11:33 <raisse> oh right, it's new moon
11:38 * raisse eats elf kibble
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11:53 <K2> !players
11:53 <Beholder_> K2: dolores [slex] Raisse [nd] Rx [nd] elenmirie [nd] 
11:54 <K2> !whereis dolores
11:54 <Beholder_> K2: dolores [slex]: No details available
11:54 <K2> oh yeah thats right
11:54 <K2> slex doesnt do whereis
12:00 <loli> whereis?
12:00 <Beholder_> [nd] Rx (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 168 points, T:925, killed by a small mimic
12:17 <K2> !whereis elenmirie
12:17 <Beholder_> K2: elenmirie [nd]: No details available
12:17 <K2> bah dev!
12:17 <K2> !whereis k2
12:17 <Beholder_> K2: k2 [gh]: (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) T:29375 The Gnomish Mines level: 5
12:17 <K2> that's 'whereis'
12:18 <K2> 3.4.3 has it, as does gh, spork, unnethack and dnethack
12:18 <LarienTelrunya> does it read out the bottom status line?
12:18 <K2> no
12:18 <K2> its just a location thing
12:19 <LarienTelrunya> so that means there's a patch for it?
12:19 <K2> yes
12:19 <LarienTelrunya> I mean, the bot has to get the information from somewhere
12:19 <K2> sporkhack was first to use it
12:19 <K2> right
12:19 <K2> the game generates a %u.whereis file
12:20 <LarienTelrunya> if that were implemented in slex, it would have to be patched so that certain nasty traps suppress it, namely the ones that mess up the bottom status line :)
12:20 <K2> lol
12:21 <K2> ok i gotta sleep
12:21 <K2> i am 6 hrs past sleep time
12:21 <LarienTelrunya> good night!
12:21 <K2> o/
12:30 <Beholder_> [nd] elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 7430 points, T:4582, killed by a gnome king
12:38 <Beholder_> [nd] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:6514
12:40 <Beholder_> [nd] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 2882 points, T:6789, killed by an ettin mummy
12:40 <raisse> pff, it says my body rises from the dead as an orc mummy but it's in soko so it won't
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12:52 <jonadab> In Fourk, it's actually possible for that to happen.
12:52 <jonadab> (But only if some player sets their bones option to "anywhere".  The default is to only load bones on non-special levels.)
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14:05 <aosdict> jonadab: ah, so you did go through with that third bones option thing?
14:12 <jonadab> aosdict: I _think_ I implemented that?  Hang on, let me double-check my git logs.
14:13 <jonadab> Ah, I _partially_ implemented that, in bleeding-edge. 
14:15 <jonadab> Looks like so far the only special levels that allow bones (if you set your option to fully enable bones) are Delphi, Minetown, Sokoban, Medusa's Island, and the first four elemental Planes.
14:15 <jonadab> So there's work yet to be done on that.
14:16 <aosdict> by the way, I decided to take a crack at implementing your Gnomish Sewer
14:20 <jonadab> As a .des file with a fixed layout, or what?
14:24 <aosdict> Yeah. Not going to try implementing a random sewer generator right now, though that would be cool.
14:24 <jonadab> Yeah, I probably wouldn't have for first implementation of the concept either.
14:25 <jonadab> Wait until some players give feedback on whether they love or hate the concept.
14:25 <aosdict> I've made some small tweaks. A couple fountains, a few areas of normal floor
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14:26 <jonadab> Honestly, the sewer is easier to do well if you have shallow water.
14:27 <jonadab> Which, there's an L patch for that, but I don't know if any other variants besides Fourk have it.
14:29 <aosdict> We'll see how it goes with regular water.
14:29 <aosdict> Is shallow water visually distinct from deep? Is it bright blue or something?
14:30 <jonadab> It's bright cyan, yeah.
14:30 <jonadab> The important thing about shallow water is that players can walk across it, and only their boots get wet.
14:30 <jonadab> Which allows you to have visually river-shaped things that the player can cross.
14:34 <aosdict> Decided to make all of the hardcoded valuable gems soft. But I added a random touchstone, and one of the soft gems is a dilithium crystal, so I think it's still fair.
16:35 <jonadab> You left the luckstone and the amethyst?
16:36 <jonadab> (Off the top of my head, I have no idea if amethyst is soft; that's not what's important about it.)
16:38 <aosdict> Yeah, the luckstone is practially mandatory, and... wait, did you specify that there should be an amethyst specifically?
16:38 <aosdict> It is soft, yes.
16:38 <jonadab> Don't all versions of Mine's End have an amethyst?
16:38 <jonadab> (It's useful for identifying certain potions.)
16:38 <aosdict> They all have two, actually.
16:38 <aosdict> Except the Sewer which has one.
16:39 <jonadab> Ah.
16:39 <jonadab> I don't think the difference between one amethyst and two is important; one is enough to do everything you need it for.
16:39 <jonadab> And yes, the wiki says it's soft.
16:39 <aosdict> The main "problem" with the Sewer which perhaps causes its difficulty to rise is that the luckstone's random and there's no beeline you can make for it.
16:40 <jonadab> Ah, the luckstone location, I see.
16:40 <aosdict> It won't be in the water... but it could be very inaccessible.
16:40 <jonadab> Ah.
16:40 <jonadab> Yeah, that could be an issue.
16:40 <jonadab> Hmm.
16:40 <aosdict> It could also be right next to the stairs.
16:40 <jonadab> I suppose its location could be hardcoded, or random_places could be used.
16:41 <jonadab> I don't remember all the details of the Sewer, just the general idea.
16:41 <jonadab> (In revising my proposal, I haven't gotten down to individual level details yet.)
16:45 <aosdict> On the other hand, random generation of the luckstone is not a *bad* thing, maybe putting it in specific places in the existing Mines' Ends has just gotten players used to having a limited set of places to look.
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16:52 <jonadab> Well, Mimic has several places it can be.  Not that I like that level.
16:52 <jonadab> Ok, actually, Mimic of the Mines is one of the worst special levels in the game.
16:53 <jonadab> But not really because of needing to check several places for the luckstone.
16:54 <aosdict> hmm, why then? because its "gimmick" is boring?
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16:55 <jonadab> Everything about it is boring.
16:56 <jonadab> Its layout looks like somebody took a randomly-generated Mines filler level and added some "secret" closets.
16:56 <jonadab> Plus, its layout is almost exactly the same as two other special levels in the game.
16:56 <jonadab> The loot is boring.  The monsters are boring.
17:00 <aosdict> Hmm, so if you were going to keep the mimic gimmick (ha) and throw away everything else, what would you put in?
17:01 <aosdict> The loot consists entirely of gems and two tools, plus three random objects.
17:02 <aosdict> Maybe mimics aren't thematic enough to have a Mines' End, actually.
17:02 <aosdict> Though going thematic also raises the question of what the heck the circular rock area is doing in the Wine Cellar.
17:04 <aosdict> One could have an armory-themed Mines' End featuring weapons and armor, or a magic-themed one featuring wands.
17:06 <Beholder_> [slex] zennaris (Cha Hum Mal Cha) averted death, on T:699
17:06 <jonadab> What I ended up doing was replacing Mimic of the Mines with the Orc Temple.
17:07 <LarienTelrunya> oh, the livelog is working again! K2: did you fix it or did it fix itself? ;)
17:11 <aosdict> How good is the orc temple loot though? I see the figurine, a couple boxes, the luckstone, and I guess maybe some spellbooks in the statues?
17:27 <jonadab> The figurine is mainly interesting to pacifists and healers, admittedly.
17:27 <jonadab> Still, clearly better than the Mimic loot.
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18:35 <Beholder_> [fh] Freakitsar (jonadab) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1225 points, T:26, killed by a falling object
18:42 <Beholder_> [nd] pugilist (Mon Hum Mal Law) consumed animal products (fortune cookie) for the first time, on T:4186
18:45 <Beholder_> [nd] pugilist (Mon Hum Mal Law) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:4406
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21:14 <Grasshopper> >.>
21:14 <Grasshopper> <.<
21:14 <Grasshopper> !who
21:14 <Beholder_> Grasshopper: winny [slex] 
21:15 <Tarmunora> Hello Grasshopper
21:15 <Grasshopper> hello Tarmunora :D
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21:20 <winny> :D
21:20 <aosdict> winny's playing slex now?
21:20 <aosdict> oh hey winny 
21:20 <winny> hey aosdict 
21:20 <winny> sometimes yeah
21:21 <winny> mainly for the randomness
21:22 <winny> i mean, where else can i quaff from a toilet!
21:22 <Tarmunora> Well, finally figured out why I was burdened
21:22 <Tarmunora> The magic weightless statue isn't weightless in a bag
21:23 <aosdict> because that makes sense.
21:25 <Tarmunora> TOtally
21:25 <Tarmunora> Taking it out of my BoH freed up over 250 weight
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21:27 <Tarmunora> Hello
21:27 <Beholder_> Hello Tarmunora, Welcome to #hardfought
21:27 <aosdict> something weird happened where your posts weren't showing up so you rebooted, eh?
21:30 <Grasshopper> Tarmunora: yeah
21:30 <Grasshopper> all seems happy happy joy joy now
21:35 <Grasshopper> !tell K2 Elvis has arrived but not yet entered the building
21:35 <Beholder_> Will do, Grasshopper!
21:37 <Grasshopper> I was about to ask if anything exciting has been happening while I was away, but now we have the irclog "I see everything" now lol :D
21:41 <Grasshopper> Can't find decent boots in this game, all +0, and everytime I find "high boots" they are always cursed. Getting sick of carrying around heavy +0 iron shoes when I'm at AC -25 now
21:42 * Grasshopper decides to go barefoot  
21:48 <dtype> K2: I've used -270kWh of electricity so far this month
21:54 <Tarmunora> Huh. By sheer coincidence, dig got bound bound to the same key as my wand of digging
21:54 <aosdict> dtype: are your panels fixed, or are they the fancy kind that rotates slowly to catch the most sun throughout the year?
22:02 <Beholder_> [dnh] Tarmunora (Ana Dro Fem Cha) killed Zuggtmoy, on T:44687
22:02 <Tarmunora> On second though
22:02 <Tarmunora> Let's do the quest before gehennom
22:03 <Grasshopper> why not
22:04 <dtype> aosdict: fixed
22:04 <Grasshopper> Just fell throoooooooough a hole to Medusa 
22:04 <dtype> aosdict: and nice and flat against roof. Something weirder wouldn't meet my aesthetic goals.
22:04 <dtype> but home panels are typically just fixed roof mounted anyway
22:10 <Beholder_> [dnh] Tarmunora (Ana Dro Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:45005
22:17 <aosdict> yani: Nazgul sleep gas is a beam, not a ray, and thus ignores reflection
22:17 <dtype> aosdict: how is that new job? or has that started yet?
22:21 <aosdict> I have probably another fairly easy week from now
22:22 <aosdict> had plenty of free time while traveling to see the eclipse this weekend, but of course did not have internet access for most of that
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22:35 <aosdict> !tell LarienTelrunya monster request: karma chameleon
22:35 <Beholder_> Will do, aosdict!
22:35 <Grasshopper> It comes and goes
22:54 <Tarmunora> !ping
22:54 <Beholder_> Tarmunora: Pong! 
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23:34 <K2> dtype: how much energy have the panels generated in that same time span?
23:34 <Beholder_> K2: Message from Grasshopper at 2017-08-22 21:35 EDT: Elvis has arrived but not yet entered the building
23:34 <K2> \o/
23:34 <K2> that was faster than I thought
23:35 <dtype> K2: 709kWh
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23:38 <K2> daaaaamn
23:44 <Beholder_> [gh] k2 (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) had silver saber named Werebane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:29404
23:45 <dtype> K2: my system was predicted to do 1100kWh in August, but I only turned it on Aug 4, so won't get the full month in
23:46 <K2> so all that extra electricity going back to the grid, do you just have a zero balance electric bill or do you actually get a credit?
23:49 <loli> K2: can you backup my save so I can start again?
23:49 <loli> segfaults
23:49 <loli> are segfaults
23:49 <K2> yup one sec
23:49 <loli> also K2 I have -25ac on dlvl10
23:49 <loli> a +10 shirt of regen!
23:49 <K2> nice
23:50 <dtype> K2: is an annual true up, so right now just banking credit for winter, where my production will go way down
23:50 <dtype> K2: but I should have a below zero bill, so I'll get a small check back
23:50 <K2> nice
23:50 <dtype> although while I can buy electricity at 21c to 28c per kWh, sellback is 3c
23:50 <K2> you're prime to setup a battery backup bank
23:50 <dtype> so really isn't worth it to sell back
23:51 <dtype> K2: nah, grid is battery. with annual billing there's no need.
23:51 <dtype> not like the battery can offput things by months
23:52 <K2> loli
23:52 <loli> sup
23:52 <K2> your last save is from almost 12 hrs ago
23:52 <loli> yup
23:52 <K2> ok
23:52 <loli> sounds about right
23:53 <K2> backed up
23:53 <K2> lets look at crash log
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23:53 <K2> there's an event right around the time of your last save
23:53 <K2> 2.0.2 20170822: impossible Error: mkobj() called with invalid object class 32
23:53 <loli> yup
23:53 <loli> amy left you a message
23:54 <loli> on #em
23:54 <K2> ok
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