00:47 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 00:48 -!- weber.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on website ¤ Public NetHack server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org ¤ SporkHack updated to 0.6.5, includes dungeon overview patch. GruntHack to receive the same patch soon. dNetHack 3.15.1 is now live 00:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 00:49 -!- zombifier has joined #hardfought 00:49 hmm, what just happened 00:49 k-line 00:50 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 00:50 omg K2 finally found a pick-aze 00:50 finally 00:51 \o/ 00:51 finally free 00:52 wait 00:52 did this asshole steal my weapon 00:55 K2: how far down is the alter in the miens? 00:55 mines* 00:57 [dnh] Tarmunora (Ana Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed historic +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:14017 00:57 bout half way 00:57 shit so I missed it? 00:57 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 00:57 how far down does it go? 00:57 it varies 00:58 I saw an orc town 00:58 with an alter 00:58 but no priest 00:58 but from top its usually 3-4 lvls down 00:58 yeah thats it 00:58 hmm 00:58 I might have to go up 1 00:58 is it in a town? 00:58 if you found orctown, thats it 00:58 isn't the priest in orctown usually ded? 00:58 really? 00:58 yes 00:58 Q_Q 00:58 really 00:58 wtf 00:58 as is everyone else not an orc 00:58 amy damn you 00:58 orctown is a thing in 3.6.0 actually, so don't curse her name 00:59 !tell LarienTelrunya why did you have to make the priest die Q_Q 00:59 Will do, loli! 00:59 amy didnt invent orctown 00:59 she told me it was guaranteed 00:59 its guaranteed in slex? 00:59 that's fucked up 00:59 that's what she said 00:59 that you get the priest 00:59 that is 01:00 I wasted all this time 01:01 the alter was unaligned, K2 01:01 so maybe it's not the alter! 01:02 my pickaxe is gone as well 01:03 you can convert the altar 01:03 thats one plus of minetown 01:03 that's true 01:03 but I wanted the priest 01:03 plus no shortage of food (orcs) 01:03 because I wanted to get free ac 01:03 that's why I came down here 01:03 for the protection racket 01:03 yeah no priests or shopkeepers in orctown 01:04 orctown, aka vanilla's way of nerfing the protection run by making it fail 1/8 of the time 01:04 quite the bad design choice tbh 01:04 I just remember amy telling me that it should always be here 01:04 with the priest 01:05 I guess I was wrong 01:06 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 01:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6] by ChanServ 01:07 at least i got back ym weapons 01:11 devteam didnt invent orctown either 01:12 came from sporkhack if i remember correctly 01:12 I did late mines 01:12 however devteam added orctown to 3.6.x 01:12 was on dlvl14~ or so 01:12 might of been 9 01:13 dllvl11* 01:15 jesus 16k moves at dlvl:11 01:15 what is wrong with me K2 01:19 can you convert an alter when a priest is there? 01:19 or will he get mad 01:23 you can 01:23 and yes you will definitely piss off the priest 01:23 they are strong 01:23 hmm 01:23 not worth 01:24 if you try to kill the priest before converting the altar, its god will smite you with lightning bolts as well 01:24 slex might be different 01:24 as in more evil different 01:24 this level looks weird 01:24 https://puu.sh/xc91v/b0d0b3a6cf.png 01:26 no special mention for that kill :( 01:27 all lava? 01:27 yeah 01:27 there was a guy 01:28 and I killed him 01:33 sick a hield of reflection! 01:33 shield* 01:34 -!- NeroOneTrueKing_ has joined #hardfought 01:35 sweet 01:37 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:38 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 01:38 amy has added a lot of pokemon to this game 01:39 -!- NeroOneTrueKing_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:39 K2 in most variants how long does pickingup and droping an item take? 01:40 one turn 01:40 for each item 01:40 even if its multiple items 01:40 or for a stack 01:40 aah 01:40 okay 01:40 amy does away with that 01:40 except for auto-pickup 01:40 which is 0 turns 01:41 hmm 01:44 I have too much royal jelly 01:45 actually most of it went away huh 01:53 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:58 shit something stole my shield 01:58 [dnh] Tarmunora (Ana Dro Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:18533 02:05 -!- Elronnd has joined #hardfought 02:09 https://puu.sh/xcatO/aa2e323f3b.png 02:10 how nice 02:29 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 02:33 -!- Mandevil has joined #hardfought 02:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Mandevil] by ChanServ 02:33 WTF? I got k-lined on Freenode! 02:33 yup 02:33 a lot of people did 02:33 everyone did 02:34 What the hell? 02:34 no explanation given 02:34 was server wide 02:35 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 02:38 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:38 [4k] k2 (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 cloak of magic resistance", on T:8768 02:40 there's the explanation 02:40 spam deluge? 02:42 hah i called it 02:42 admin fat fingered a command 02:43 Hah. 02:44 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 02:44 well, I got back in using webchat 02:45 lots of klines here, and pm spam 02:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 02:46 i havent received any of the pm spam 02:46 the server wide k-line was an admin error in attempt to combat spam 02:47 killed a php book dragon 02:47 I'm still getting pm spam 02:48 :/ 02:48 hm, I am not. 02:48 Spammers don't like me. 02:50 where the hell is the > 02:50 https://puu.sh/xcbFu/ac64273add.png 02:51 a river level 02:51 yes 02:51 and a place where you're supposed to insert a string 02:51 that's my name 02:51 seed fully here 02:52 https://puu.sh/xcbI7/1922a035f6.png 02:54 mandevil, do falling boulders still like you though? 02:54 magic maping fixed it 02:55 Haven't played FIQ for a long time. 02:55 But FIQ fixed that particular bug. 02:55 yeah, looks like it but it was my favorite quote 03:06 I thought the k-line was because my nick had timed out on a reset and I was Guest[some numbers] 03:07 didn't know what they had against guests 03:37 [slex] dolores (Mys Ang Fem Cha), 279720 points, T:20638, killed by a monster (winged gargoyle) 03:37 #2 03:37 wooo 03:37 died because my spell wouldn't cast 03:37 I shouldn't have risekd it 03:37 it was such a good run 03:37 !lastgame 03:37 loli: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dolores/slex/dumplog/1502926883.slex.txt 03:38 I'm sad how that ended 03:38 !tell test 03:38 Will do, loli! 03:41 What's a "Mys Ang"? 03:42 Ang = angel 03:42 mys = mysic 03:42 mysic? 03:42 What's that? 03:42 mystic 03:42 a class in slex 03:42 starts off with healing 03:42 kinda slow 03:43 shit pet 03:43 well slow pet 03:57 [4k] k2 (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached the bottom of the Mines, on T:10373 03:59 @v?gremlin 03:59 pinobot hasnt reconnected yet :/ 04:07 -!- bug_sniper is now known as bug_sniper` 04:09 let's see if this change of nick stops the pm spam 04:09 as well as leaving #help 04:09 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 04:14 !tell jonadab love your mines end level with the 3 main altars and the hidden 4th altar (orcs) 04:14 Will do, K2! 04:14 K2: Designed by khor. 04:15 neat 04:16 -!- NeroOneTrueKing_ has joined #hardfought 04:19 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:25 ooh mines end with altars 04:26 this is a very cool map 04:26 surprised the monsters at the end werent more difficult 04:27 K2: Did you get the figurine of balrog? 04:27 i did 04:27 does it not always appear? or is it sometimes already used by one of the monsters? 04:28 AFAIK it is always there. 04:28 The orcs worship it. 04:28 i'm going to bless it and use it later 04:28 and name it George 04:35 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 04:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 04:38 -!- Tangles has quit [Quit: Changing server] 04:42 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 04:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 04:44 hiya Tangles 04:44 hi K2 04:45 So I (and a few others) got K-lined some hours ago. 04:45 pretty much the entire server was k-lined 04:45 I've had to rejoin all the channels and all my irssi windows are messed up :/ 04:45 freenode was experiencing a PM spam attack, one of the admin accidentally k-lined almost all users 04:46 heh 04:46 [02:39] -kline- [global notice] Hi there: freenode is experiencing a large quantity of spam. If you receive links from users you don't recognise, please do not open them. If you are affected, please set usermode +R to block messages from unidentified users. 04:46 - 04:46 [02:40] -kline- [global notice] Additionally, while working to minimise this spam, staff error led to the majority of the network receiving a temporary K-Line (network ban). The ban has since been lifted and those affected should be able to reconnect. Please accept our apologies, and contact us if you, or someone you know, still cannot connect. 05:04 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 05:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 05:05 [05:42:07] * elenmirie (~elenmirie@cust98-dsl91-135-0.idnet.net) has quit IRC (K-Lined) 05:05 wtf? 05:05 You were deemed a white supremacist and banned. 05:06 [02:39] -kline- [global notice] Hi there: freenode is experiencing a large quantity of spam. If you receive links from users you don't recognise, please do not open them. If you are affected, please set usermode +R to block messages from unidentified users. 05:06 - 05:06 [02:40] -kline- [global notice] Additionally, while working to minimise this spam, staff error led to the majority of the network receiving a temporary K-Line (network ban). The ban has since been lifted and those affected should be able to reconnect. Please accept our apologies, and contact us if you, or someone you know, still cannot connect. 05:06 ah, because of my outspoken support for ... vanilla nethack? 05:06 No really, just a admin mistake. 05:06 Vanilla supremacist, even worse. 05:06 ah 05:06 ok 05:07 vanilla supremacist... hah 05:07 bwahahah 05:07 ha 05:08 alright need to prep for shift change 05:08 see you all later :P 05:09 see ya! 05:09 o/ 05:18 * raisse is a vanilla supremacist too 05:18 and I wasn't even there! 05:18 but my evil twin got hit 05:18 I thought when I saw the backscroll that it was because she'd been Guestxxxxx for a while 05:18 and the network didn't like guest lurkers 05:32 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 05:34 -!- NeroOneTrueKing_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:38 -!- NeroOneTrueKing_ has joined #hardfought 05:41 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:56 * Mandevil calls for oppressed minority forks to rise against vanilla supremacists! Support diversity! Stop fork-racism! 06:30 -!- eady has joined #hardfought 06:39 -!- jonadab has joined #hardfought 06:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v jonadab] by ChanServ 07:11 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 07:13 -!- NeroOneTrueKing_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:16 -!- NeroOneTrueKing_ has joined #hardfought 07:17 wtf lmao 07:19 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:20 -!- NeroOneTrueKing_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:20 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 07:22 -!- Manaflare has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:23 -!- Tomthetom has joined #hardfought 07:23 -!- Tomthetom has left #hardfought 07:44 oh... that's rare. 07:45 There was a poly-trap on the level below minetown 07:45 and my pets found it before I did. 07:45 D a dragon (tame leviathan) 07:45 That will do nicely.\ 07:45 which dragon is it? 07:46 It's a big dragon. 07:46 lol 07:46 I think you can only tell by eating it or seeing it breathe. 07:47 Well, and formally identifying the scales. 07:47 yes but I thought perhaps Tangles had seen it breathe 07:47 But pets dragons don't breathe, do they? 07:47 they do in some variants 07:47 Yes, but not in variants that have randomized dragons. 07:47 IIRC. 07:48 I don't know what it is yet 07:49 and I probably won't find out until I see a hostile one. 07:49 One way to see it is to conflict it. 07:49 because I don't think it'll breathe at enemies. 07:49 And hope it's not disint one. 07:49 I have reflection already. This game is actually going really well. 07:50 Then you can try the conflict trick. 07:50 It's a shield, which means I can't swing a mattock, but meh. 07:51 the +1 knife is ok with str 18/** 07:51 I only have to hit another 14,000 times to get it to basic :) 07:52 Revgeno lichens :) 07:54 I have the Giantslayer sling, which seems to give you 18/** even when in the alternate weapon slot. I was using it as a melee weapon for a while. 07:54 but I'm training knife now, for when I find a long worm. 07:55 Dual crysknives! 07:55 I ascended a devnull rogue with dual +7 crysknives. 07:55 Mandevil: I had that with my last un convict! 07:56 I got as far as Orcus, and really I just had to not YASD. 07:56 You ascended a convict? 07:56 Oh. 07:56 Guess what happened. 07:56 Falling, you touch your cockatrice corpse? 07:56 Yeah. I wanted to take Orcus downstairs. 07:57 Oh now I recall. 07:57 Yeah 07:57 That is really sad. 07:57 It's long enough ago now that I can try again. 07:57 The early part of convict is the hardest. 07:59 Yeah. This one has a good start... so you never know. 08:09 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9] 08:22 [nd] elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 4738 points, T:4526, killed by a dwarf, while fainted from lack of food 08:33 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 08:38 so, does anyone happen to know why me and several others got klined about eight hours ago? 08:40 Scroll up. 08:41 what do you mean? I just see a bunch of klines ending with me. Got the "Spam is off topic on freenode" message, which is weird 08:41 Up in this channel. 08:42 [nd] Rx (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 1532 points, T:2491, killed by a bolt of cold 08:42 a long discussion between loli and Elronnd talking about languages? 08:42 11:06 <@K2> [02:39] -kline- [global notice] Hi there: freenode is experiencing 08:42 a large quantity of spam. If you receive links from users you don't 08:43 recognise, please do not open them. If you are affected, please set 08:43 usermode +R to block messages from unidentified users. 08:43 11:06 <@K2> [02:40] -kline- [global notice] Additionally, while working to 08:43 minimise this spam, staff error led to the majority of the network 08:43 receiving a temporary K-Line (network ban). The ban has since been 08:43 lifted and those affected should be able to reconnect. Please 08:43 accept our apologies, and contact us if you, or someone you know, 08:43 still cannot connect. 08:43 It's like one page up. 08:44 Was this before or after the klines? Because my client didn't try to reconnect automatically, so I've missed any messages between then and now 08:44 This was after. 08:44 Well, thanks for the explanation. 08:46 hope I didn't miss too much interesting design discussion while I was away 09:02 dtype: enjoy this content creation spree while it lasts, my amount of free time for watching this channel and writing up stuff is probably going to plummet soon 09:17 aosdict: work stuff? 09:18 basically, won't have constant access to a computer I can freely use irc with anymore 09:18 that plus not knowing how busy I'll be outside of work. We'll see in a few weeks. 09:36 Tangles: Wouldn't Leviathan be pretty useless in the absense of water? 09:36 jonadab: Message from K2 at 2017-08-17 04:14 EDT: love your mines end level with the 3 main altars and the hidden 4th altar (orcs) 09:37 !tell K2 If you mean the Orc Temple, that is actually Khor's doing mainly. 09:37 Will do, jonadab! 09:38 Did Beholder auto-reconnect after the kline? 09:39 I have _one_ client that did, so I have a log if it's needed. 09:39 jonadab: unlikely 09:40 though my test-bot seems to still be up. 09:40 * tsadok looks at backscroll. 09:41 Ok, K-Line happened at 00:42:09 my time, this client reconnected at 00:44:41, so I'm missing almost three minutes. 09:41 Beholder was back by 00:57:17. 09:41 Not VERY much happened between there. 09:42 So yeah, my weechat log is probably not needed. 09:43 oh CRAP! 09:43 I was out for eight hours. 09:43 Tangles: ? 09:43 oh... the bot reconnected just after midnight... that could have been worse. 09:44 I just realised I made a booboo when it opens the logfile. 09:44 It does not append. 09:44 -!- Jonathanhanes_ has joined #hardfought 09:44 I need to fix that right now. 09:45 Ah. 09:45 Yeah, you probably want append. 09:45 !time 09:45 Tangles: Thu Aug 17 09:45:48 2017 EDT 09:46 aosdict: your work situation changing? Are you military or some such where computer activity is more limited? 09:47 aosdict: need a good web irc client? :) 09:47 dtype: Are you about to plug an Amazon service again? 09:48 jonadab: nah, not this time, but irccloud.com if you have browser access but not IRC clients otherwise 09:48 jonadab: yeah there's nothing before 00:47 in today's log. 09:51 aosdict: but seriously can't say enough good things about irccloud.com if you need to get to IRC through browser. I use it even as my normal client these days. 09:51 dtype: I should still be able to maintain a bouncer just fine, but the ease of access I have now of alt-tabbing over to irc where I can read and write messages probably won't exist 09:51 Tangles: una momento. 09:51 It's more a sporadic time of access thing than a hardware thing. 09:51 ah 09:52 aosdict: well hopefully work is a bit fulfilling at least. :) 09:52 Hopefully. 09:54 Tangles: http://jonadab.jumpingcrab.com/pastebin/832.txt 09:55 Or, wait, you said 00:47 09:55 Just a moment. 09:57 Tangles: Ok, see also http://jonadab.jumpingcrab.com/pastebin/833.txt 09:57 still klined it looke like 09:57 Yeah, so the log for everything before the k-line incident was lost (which was about 40 minutes), because of not using append mode. 09:57 I'm fixing it now. 09:59 Thanks for the logs jonadab. 09:59 np 10:07 !tell K2 just pushed an important fix for Beholder. Current version has data-loss issues with channel logging (my bad, sorry) 10:07 Will do, Tangles! 10:10 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:11 [nd] elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1972 points, T:3647, killed by a gas spore's explosion 10:24 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 10:25 jonadab: I've implemented a bunch of monsters from your randomizing perlscript in slex, but now I need to adjust it a bit for my needs. When I'm done, would you put that on your page as well so I can generate another bunch of monsters? ♥ 10:25 LarienTelrunya: Message from loli at 2017-08-17 00:59 EDT: why did you have to make the priest die Q_Q 10:25 !tell loli err, which priest? rip priest :( was he important? 10:25 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 10:26 LarienTelrunya: I'll consider it. Show me a unified diff, I guess. 10:26 ok :) I'll have to make it first, though; it will probably take a while 10:31 K2: the entire server wasn't K-lined 10:31 I was unaffected 10:31 lol 10:32 Apparently they caught what was happening before it kicked quite everyone off. 10:32 want the vanilla supremacist joke added to nethack qdb? 10:34 yeah, I imagine someone mixed up the \8 and \24 range suffixes and then wanted to go with \1 10:36 !tell loli ahh, caught up to the backscroll now (having logs really is great!), you got orcminetown, where the priest starts out dead; if no other temple is generated in the game, protection cannot be obtained at all :( 10:36 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 10:43 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 10:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hothraxxa] by ChanServ 10:50 -!- honu has joined #hardfought 10:52 Evil Patch idea: weeping angel contamination slows down the player's HP and Pw regeneration, both natural and magical, and if you accumulate enough, you'll eventually regenerate 10 times slower. 10:54 new possible formula for HP regeneration: 1 hp per (30 - (ulevel/2 + Con)) 10:54 capped at 1 per turn 10:55 jonadab: you apparently suggested that sexy farting girls in slex could curse items, cause sickness, sliming and petrification and drain your strength. Well, the shocking revelation is that *all of these are already possible* :D 10:55 and some more evil ones too 10:58 jonadab: does "int rand 41" output random numbers from 1-41? 11:00 LarienTelrunya: rand 41 produces a random floating-point number from 0 to 41. int rounds it down to an integer. So the lowest possible value is 0, and the highest is 40. 11:00 ah, so it's what rn2(41) would do in nethack, I see 11:02 would if (50 > rand 100) { $mr = (int rand 50) + 40; work as intended, i.e. give monsters with high MR 50% of the time? 11:03 also, if I want to compare two values, can == be used as an operator to test if they're equal, like in c? 11:04 == tests _numeric_ equality. If you want to compare string-equality, you want eq 11:04 So for example, "foo" == 0 will return true. 11:04 ah, but I want to test whether a number is zero ;) 11:04 But 0 eq "0.0" will return false. 11:04 Testing whether a number is 0 is == yeah. 11:05 and I guess comments are prefixed with # instead of /* comment */ 11:07 Yes, this is Perl, not C. 11:07 for my $attkn (0 .. 1 + int rand 4.999) 11:07 is there a reason why it's 4.999? 11:08 I don't remember? 11:08 5 would give _almost_ the same distribution. 11:13 Hmm. 11:14 almost done now 11:14 however, I'd like to add a couple M3 flags to every entry, since they're needed by slex 11:14 wondering how to do it 11:18 okay jonadab: I think I'm done now; this script is supposed to make difficult (level 45-100) monsters for slex, and is thus not meant as a replacement for the other script but as a standalone one 11:18 it's here: https://pastebin.com/raw/rGtMbRDn - however, I don't know how to do the M3 flag stuff correctly in perl, I've left a comment for you in the script 11:19 if you can implement it and then put it up on your page, I'd be forever grateful! ♥ 11:19 That'll have to be later today. 11:19 But I'll make myself a note to look at it. 11:20 great! thanks a lot! :) 11:20 Do you actually not have any access to any computer you could run Perl on? 11:21 It's not like Perl is an obscure thing. 11:22 well I have it on the one at my office, but I'm on vacation, so no perl for me :( 11:23 actually, I can check whether I can run it here from the command line 11:24 nope, perl is not installed on this pc :( 11:24 Ah. 11:25 aww, why did no one ever install perl here :/ 11:26 hmm, it should not be too hard to install the command line version, right? 11:27 "activeperl"? "strawberry perl"? which one lets me run cmd and input "perl myscript.pl"? 11:28 Strawberry Perl is probably the better of those two options. 11:28 If you have Windows Ten, then you should instead use the Windows Subsystem for Linux version of Perl, probably. 11:28 well I have windows XP 11:28 Ah. 11:28 does it even run on that :D 11:28 I _think_ Strawberry Perl should work on XP. Probably. 11:28 It _used_ to, certainly. 11:29 ah I need to get the 32-bit version 11:29 Only if you're running a 32-bit OS. 11:29 In 2017. 11:29 damn with this slow modem the download will take a while 11:29 * LarienTelrunya is using antiquated technology :D 11:29