00:10 -!- tinklebear has left #evilhack 00:26 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 283 points, T:850, killed by a bolt of cold 00:27 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 42 points, T:171, killed by a ghost called Stephan 00:40 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2169 (0:11:32) 00:44 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:94303 (21:13:15) 00:51 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:46803 (10:10:46) 00:51 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 10 darts of fire on an altar, on T:3594 (0:23:19) 00:56 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 7136 points, T:3972, killed by a soldier ant 01:20 [hdf-au] [evil] HungryMotu (Val Dwa Fem Neu) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:1256 (0:10:14) 01:26 [hdf-au] [evil] HungryMotu (Val Dwa Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2089 (0:15:45) 01:30 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:97016 (21:58:49) 01:44 [hdf-au] [evil] HungryMotu (Val Dwa Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a platinum dagger on an altar, on T:3839 (0:33:52) 01:55 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 02:06 -!- tinklebear has left #evilhack 02:34 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (tungsten.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 02:34 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 03:27 -!- malor_ has joined #evilhack 03:30 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:47 [hdf-us] [evil] ohayoSioh (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) murdered his faithful elder pseudodragon, on T:2588 (0:18:38) 03:48 [hdf-us] [evil] ohayoSioh (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2705 (0:19:15) 04:02 [hdf-us] [evil] ohayoSioh (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 8005 points, T:4579, killed by a white unicorn 04:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 762 points, T:2760, killed by a rock gnome 04:50 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Graz'zt, on T:60664 (1 day, 11:32:27) 05:23 that was harder than I expected with the teleporting away after failed seduction 05:23 he gets a lot of free attacks that way 05:59 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 06:18 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 08:17 you just brute-force him with purity? 08:18 im about to be killed by dagul, who is only somewhat tame now 08:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Trt Fem Neu) killed the invisible Baba Yaga, on T:45865 (13:34:32) 08:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Trt Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:45866 (13:34:36) 08:37 as long as you stay on the same level with him, he will just remain "somewhat tame" 08:38 yeah one teleport trap away from death 08:38 and yes, purity brute force 08:38 give him an amulet of MR :-) 08:38 wish druids would get a message about a tree being out of fruit 08:39 heh, hard to keep track of what you already kicked 08:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Trt Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:46639 (13:47:41) 08:47 trying to use my bracers of the first circle to jack his tameness but doesnt look like it does anything 08:51 yeah you won't overcome his monster MR 08:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful giant bat, on T:36 (0:00:26) 08:58 this has been a potion-poor run, I don't think I will be able to afford potion polypiling in preparation for the asc run 09:01 ive sometimes made the run without ever having to use a single full healing, but i havent gone with less than 10 in a loooong time 09:01 im a huge coward 09:02 a huge coward who still doesnt have free action or reflection 09:05 and still not a single magical light source, boo 09:09 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 09:09 oh I have enough diluted ones, but per usual my HP could be a lot better 09:09 going to do 1 nurse dance and then stop caring about it 09:19 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:29 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided sea dragons, on T:77760 (1 day, 5:01:33) 09:35 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:57997 (10:27:26) 09:42 argghh 09:42 smoky full healing 09:42 awesome for the slowest, most vulnerable race 09:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1606 (0:09:31) 09:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3657 points, T:2133, killed by a rock gnome 10:09 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:59324 (11:01:58) 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Tal'Gath, on T:61940 (11:30:31) 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (beholders), on T:61941 (11:30:47) 10:56 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4885150 points, T:101196, quit 10:59 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:62601 (11:51:17) 11:00 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:62615 (11:52:16) 11:04 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:864 (0:03:31) 11:06 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 11:07 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1530 (0:05:54) 11:07 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 794 points, T:2049, killed by a gnome lady 11:12 it has only just now occured to me that tortles might not able to Just Run Away from an angry balrog 11:13 @e?balrog 11:13 balrog (&) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 75 | Gen: gehennom | AC: -2 | Atk: 8d4 weapon physical, 4d6 weapon physical | Align: -128 | flies, thick hide, seeinvis, poisonous, stalker, silverhate, infravis, demon 11:14 higher MMR than I expected 11:14 and faster too 11:16 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 12 darts on an altar, on T:3534 (0:15:41) 11:18 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 11:22 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1942 (0:12:38) 11:24 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:37286 (18:16:03) 11:24 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +3 gray dragon scales", on T:2135 (0:13:59) 11:25 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:36 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 19 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:5290 (0:35:14) 11:37 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 181 points, T:275, killed by a mountain dwarf 11:38 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 11:39 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:64234 (12:31:56) 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 19402 points, T:6065, petrified by a cockatrice 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha), 5869 points, T:5314, killed by a gray unicorn 11:51 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:64890 (12:43:47) 12:01 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) wished for "blessed wand of death", on T:38080 (18:53:41) 12:15 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Umbire's ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:1284 (0:05:31) 12:18 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:38230 (19:00:13) 12:19 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:38234 (19:00:50) 12:25 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:38406 (19:07:08) 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3021 (0:17:57) 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:4287 (0:25:40) 12:37 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the giant high priestess of Moloch, on T:38509 (19:19:15) 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:38512 (19:20:03) 12:39 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4775 (0:29:02) 12:39 I wonder why splungetoo quit 12:40 this game: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/splungetoo/evilhack/dumplog/1745372439.evil.html 12:41 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had a staff of escape entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:49189 (10:50:26) 12:41 the dumplog says they had handled the book of the dead, but they don't seem to be carrying it at quitting time 12:42 the last messages seem to suggest they were looking for something 12:42 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1036 (0:06:47) 12:42 oof, maybe a case of not knowing how to find the book of the dead after killing the wizard over air 12:43 yeah, I'm not sure 12:45 Hecubus says they killed the wizard yesterday, and then acquired the book three turns later 12:46 but maybe a later incarnation stole it back 12:46 and then, like you say, got killed over a chasm or something 12:46 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:49344 (10:55:33) 12:47 @e?master lich 12:47 master lich (L) | Lvl: 17 | Diff: 21 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire cold sleep poison drain | Confer: fire cold | MR: 90 | Gen: gehennom | AC: -4 | Atk: 3d6 touch cold, 0d0 cast spell | Align: -15 | genocidable, breathless, regen, poisonous, covetous, undead 12:47 meanwhile Lucifer fight for msbqqq 12:47 oh, cool 12:49 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Lucifer, on T:38584 (19:31:38) 12:50 just enough para pots :-) 12:50 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) entered Purgatory, on T:38589 (19:32:01) 12:50 made it! 12:50 :D 12:51 looked like three misses with wand of death, then finally a hit on rodney 12:52 ..and exploded his death wand with charging 12:52 oh no! 12:54 "You stand atop a craggly mountain" 12:54 gets me every time 12:54 "craggly" 12:56 heh 12:56 K2: s/craggly/craggy 13:00 @e?arch-lich 13:00 arch-lich (L) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 29 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison drain | Confer: fire cold | MR: 90 | Gen: gehennom | AC: -6 | Atk: 5d6 touch cold, 0d0 cast spell | Align: -15 | genocidable, breathless, regen, poisonous, covetous, undead 13:01 I guess purple L are unlikely to die over air 13:03 but yeah, splungetoo killed rodney at least 10 times, so as far as I know there was plenty of opportunity for the book to fall into a chasm 13:04 so invocation items falling into a chasm always drop to the final demon boss level? 13:05 the ledge across from the ladder to vlad's tower already has an inscription 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 16036 points, T:7655, killed by a barbed devil 13:06 maybe it could have some additional message alluding to whoever is the final demon boss? 13:06 indicating where the chasm leads 13:07 in dnh, the oracle is much more useful and reveals what demons you are going to get this run etc https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Oracle_(monster)#dNetHack 13:07 the oracle telling you something worth knowing? 13:07 impossible. I don't believe it 13:08 I was thinking about an in-game hint to indicate to unspoiled players where they can find any invocation items that drop into a chasm 13:09 having the oracle dispense useful info, though... 13:09 ...sounds pretty crazy to me 13:09 it would be like, i don't know, putting a book in a library or something 13:09 might as well bury it in the ground! 13:10 it's also possible some monster picked it up in the confusion. krm26 nearly quit a run when that happened and he couldn't find it anywhere. 13:10 hm. good point 13:11 who knows, evilhack has some qol features, maybe the king of woodchucks implements something like the dnh oracle? 13:11 :D 13:12 picturing him with a little cotton crown, like the head bully in an old time comic book 13:15 YASI: a sessile hermit who collects books 13:15 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "sdflkj", on T:6021 (0:39:54) 13:15 in exchange for any book, will dispense a true rumor 13:16 perhaps they value some more than others 13:20 possible elaboration: instead of just sitting on the books, they deposit them in a magic chest on a channel separate to the player's. the wizard's lair contains an identical chest 13:20 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 14379 points, T:6780, killed by a piranha 13:21 maybe the beatitude of the book determines the truth of the rumor 13:21 that would make sense 13:21 [hdf-us] [evil] LiamTheDruid (Dru Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2096 (0:16:10) 13:22 one thing I don't like about this idea, is that the current rumor database is full of hot air 13:23 I wouldn't like to think of how many books I'd need to donate, in order to obtain a rumor worth hearing 13:23 ah well. YASI 13:25 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:19262 (5:19:05) 13:28 now I'm looking at dat/oracles.txt 13:28 "If thy wand hath run out of charges, thou mayst zap it again and again; though naught will happen at first, verily, thy persistence shall be rewarded, as one last charge may yet be wrested from it!" 13:28 in evilhack, this one seems a little obsolete 13:28 naught will NOT likely happen at first 13:29 persistence not required 13:30 "Though the shopkeepers be wary, thieves have nevertheless stolen much by using their digging wands to hasten exits through the pavement." 13:30 good luck with that one 13:31 "Behold the cockatrice, whose diminutive stature belies its hidden might. The cockatrice can petrify any ordinary being it contacts--save those wise adventurers who eat a dead lizard or blob of acid when they feel themselves slowly turning to stone." 13:31 now we know where that misconception came from, that only lizards and acid blob corpses cure stoning 13:31 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:32 "Almost all adventurers who come this way hope to pass the dread Medusa. To do this, the best advice is to keep thine eyes blindfolded and to cause the creature to espy its own reflection in a mirror." 13:32 again, evilhack obsoletes this advice 13:32 unless the point is to teach the player that the oracle is useless, dat/oracles.txt needs a complete overhaul 13:32 I rest my case 13:34 IMO, there's not much there that merits keeping around out of some misguided impulse towards backwards compatibility or tradition 13:34 it looks like an opportunity for innovative creation 13:36 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Saint Michael, on T:38753 (19:46:47) 13:38 yeah the oracle txt file needs updating 13:52 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2144 (0:19:49) 13:55 If another creature handelabrums 13:55 Your bell book or candelabrum 13:55 Should they die over air 13:55 There will be nothing there 13:55 To invoke anymore 13:55 ... 13:56 But all is still well 13:56 Get thee to Hell 13:56 That lord dwelling deepest 13:56 Lost items they keep just 13:56 Lying around on the floor 13:58 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:39401 (20:08:49) 14:00 <@Loggers_VIII> greatest modern lyricist? 14:01 does anyone remember yesterday when i said i found a bug about a vampire wearing a ring of slow digestion before they became hungry and they could go over 10k turns before becoming hungry? 14:01 turns out its not vampire race related at all 14:01 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/issues/1410 14:09 hah 14:09 yeah 14:10 i kept trying to 'fix' it, couldnt, then started doing process of elimination 14:10 led me to 'lets see what happens with official unedited builds' 14:11 it's not a bug. it's truth in advertising 14:11 i get that but I have having a bit of a hard time believing being able to go 14k + turns without becoming hungry was the intent 14:11 *I am having 14:11 :D 14:12 granted you cant move 14:12 but still 14:13 you know what else i dont like? 14:13 when you're trimming your fingernails, and a trimmed nail goes flying off god knows where 14:13 and you cant find it 14:15 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the Rider, on T:39556 (20:26:04) 14:15 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the Black Horse, on T:39557 (20:26:22) 14:17 holy shit K2 that happens to you too? 14:18 I'm lucky if I can find one out of ten of those things 14:18 hah 14:23 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) put Death down for a little nap, on T:39589 (20:33:54) 14:23 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:39591 (20:34:16) 14:27 made it to the altar! 14:29 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha), 9715 points, T:6346, killed by a bolt of cold 14:29 \o/ 14:30 @e?gulthias tree 14:30 gulthias tree (#) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 23 | Spd: 10 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: special | AC: -6 | Atk: 6d8 claw physical, 6d8 claw physical, 6d6 hug physical | Align: -15 | carnivore, breathless, mindless, thick hide, nopoly, vegan 14:31 congratulations to msbqqq 14:32 yay 14:33 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu), 6452520 points, T:39608, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/msbqqq/evilhack/dumplog/1745336847.evil.html 14:34 wewp 14:43 congrats 14:51 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:55 EvilHack Commits: Fix: hunger condition states transitioning from vampire to non-vampir… https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/dd59842d0400aba7102fa12cd1169dbb264cbba7 14:56 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had a staff of war entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:49519 (10:59:25) 14:59 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had a magical ominous spellbook given to her by Thoth, on T:49602 (11:02:30) 15:01 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:09 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "sdflkj", on T:3805 (0:33:01) 15:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:63695 (1 day, 14:23:37) 15:26 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:81352 (1 day, 6:51:58) 15:27 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 15:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:63730 (1 day, 14:25:58) 15:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:63733 (1 day, 14:26:07) 15:32 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:81459 (1 day, 6:58:00) 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:81460 (1 day, 6:58:11) 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:65730 (13:10:18) 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:65731 (13:10:23) 15:34 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided alhoons, on T:65734 (13:10:57) 15:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:63765 (1 day, 14:32:58) 15:36 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6819 (1:00:25) 15:39 bad day for the wizard of yendor 15:41 val-cen 2-streak for msbqqq btw 15:44 oh wow. cool 15:48 for vampire role, I wonder if there is any special handling of the scaring of vampires when the player stands on an altar? 15:51 "You are frightened, and unable to move" 15:52 ("frightened to death" does not seem like an appropriate phrase) 15:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the illithid high priest of Moloch, on T:63931 (1 day, 14:47:39) 15:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:63936 (1 day, 14:48:06) 15:58 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:67109 (13:35:26) 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:8051 (1:24:56) 16:06 I think the slow digestion thing is intended right? 16:06 broadly speaking, it will reduce your hunger rate by 95% if not wearing another ring or an amulet 16:06 so 800-900ish turns to get hungrier x 20 turns per hunger tick instead of 1 ~= 16 or 18 thousand turns 16:09 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide bracers of decay", on T:67544 (13:46:50) 16:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lucifer, on T:64057 (1 day, 15:01:31) 16:11 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed magic marker", on T:67552 (13:48:30) 16:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Purgatory, on T:64065 (1 day, 15:03:03) 16:14 I wonder if anyone ever goes to that little circular glade in the south-east of purgatory gardens 16:15 has a little picnic or something 16:15 *southwest 16:16 yay craggly mountain 16:16 time to do dishes 16:17 :D 16:18 YANI: topiary 16:19 "As you approach the hedge sculpture, it moves!" 16:22 you suddenly realize you are at the overlook hotel 16:22 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:67886 (13:59:36) 16:26 hah, I did not remember that part of the shining 16:26 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Lolth, on T:68079 (14:03:52) 16:35 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:68293 (14:12:09) 16:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Saint Michael, on T:64165 (1 day, 15:12:44) 16:42 The infernal trident's eldritch flame consumes Saint Michael! 16:45 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:68643 (14:22:28) 16:45 truth in advertising 16:56 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:69109 (14:32:56) 16:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 potions of unholy water", on T:64777 (1 day, 15:27:42) 16:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided mind flayers, on T:64781 (1 day, 15:28:59) 16:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayers, on T:64781 (1 day, 15:29:15) 16:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:64782 (1 day, 15:30:02) 17:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:64784 (1 day, 15:30:58) 17:10 for vampire role, I wonder if there is any special handling of the scaring of vampires when the player stands on an altar? "You are frightened, and unable to move" 17:11 I don't think this should be implemented. Players aren't scared of Elbereth, and they shouldn't be scared by this either. 17:12 And how would it work anyway? You are paralyzed while any monster stands on an altar? That sounds annoying and likely to get you killed as soon as you see a temple (priest will be standing on an altar) 17:19 yeah vampire player race being frightened to stand on an altar would not go over well. at all 17:19 in vanilla you can poly into a vampire and use altars no problem 17:20 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:1751 (0:10:05) 17:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided electric eels, on T:64867 (1 day, 15:41:57) 17:20 but when a non-vampire player polys into V form, their mind remains their own mind, a non-V mind 17:20 aosdict, the slow digestion behavior may be intended, but I posted the issue to verify that 17:21 player race V has a V mind 17:21 going from 800-900 turns to several thousand seems a bit excessive 17:21 player has player mind, regardless of what they are 17:22 -!- mobileuser48 has joined #evilhack 17:22 I mainly raised the V/altar question as a question: will the issue simply be ignored, or what 17:22 the only 'player gets scared' mechanic in vanilla and most other variants is when a ghost becomes visible, or you chat to a skeleton 17:22 tinklebear, i dont see it as an issue 17:23 it's fine 17:23 was curious 17:23 yeah 17:23 i may do something in regards to garlic 17:24 will V player standing on an altar scare other V? 17:24 that's a better question 17:24 (also, just curious) 17:24 probably shouldnt 17:24 that would feel weird 17:26 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:26 "player has player mind, regardless of what they are" 17:26 player mind and V mind are not mutually exclusive 17:26 I think illithids present a like case 17:26 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2755 (0:17:03) 17:27 isn't there something about some ranged spell attack they have? 17:27 that only they can use correctly? 17:27 psionic wave 17:27 that one 17:27 they poly into something else, they still have that ability 17:27 it's their mind 17:28 they shouldnt 17:28 that's a bug 17:29 when an illithid infidel crowns and turns into a demon, they lose that ability 17:29 okay. well, maybe they don't retain the ability, in fact. I was just *assuming* they did 17:29 looks like I overlooked that for everything else they can poly into 17:29 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2964 (0:19:25) 17:29 they retain it, just checked 17:29 ^ bug 17:29 disagree, but it's your game! 17:29 :D 17:29 well they lose it when they change into a demon 17:30 need some consistency 17:30 the transform into demon is like ... a metamorphosis 17:30 not the same thing as everyday polymorph 17:30 codewise its the same 17:30 :) 17:31 I think some inconsistency wouldn't be uncalled for, in that particular case 17:31 or at least, it could be narratively justified if you wanted to go there 17:31 and no, it isn't quite the same, codewise, is it? 17:32 like, I can't poly into a demon and have all the demon lords be all "hey bra, what's up?" 17:32 only infidels get that now, correct? 17:32 I did used to be able to do that 17:32 maybe not *all* the lords. can't remember 17:33 but at least a couple of themm 17:33 and then I'm pretty sure you changed that 17:33 i actually have this in spell.c 17:33 . /* Infidel illithid became crowned and is no longer an illithid */ 17:33 } else if (spellid(spell) == SPE_PSIONIC_WAVE && Race_if(PM_DEMON)) { 17:33 You("lack the psychic ability to use this power."); 17:33 return 1; 17:34 the reasoning was if you're not an illithid, you dont have the brain structure to use the ability 17:34 yes, but infidel is special case, as I argue above 17:34 right but it shouldnt be a special case 17:34 metamorphosis, not mere polymorph 17:35 if you say so 17:35 i do :) 17:35 I think my argument is strong enough that you will eventually come around to see it 17:35 but of course it is your call 17:35 * K2 nods 17:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:64984 (1 day, 15:53:43) 17:36 oh damn mobileuser is on astral 17:36 it's raining asc today 17:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Black Horse, on T:64987 (1 day, 15:54:31) 17:37 poor horsey 17:39 The iron golem is melting! The fire doesn't seem to burn the iron golem! 17:39 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 9713 points, T:3422, killed by a dark elven watch captain 17:39 -!- mobileuser48 is now known as mobileuser 17:40 doesn't seem nice to be melting 17:40 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:41 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 17:42 it's like getting a massage, if you're an iron golem 17:42 is that normal fire + hellfire feedback? heh 17:46 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 186 points, T:1425, killed by a boulder 17:47 is it an NPC "Mobileuser the invisible Lama" that's trolling mobileuser so hard with that wand of polymorph? 17:47 damn mobileuser 17:48 damn you to hell! 17:48 K2 it was the red horse attacking the iron golem 17:48 haha 17:49 huh weird 17:49 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) murdered her faithful elder ent, on T:66 (0:01:45) 17:49 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1124 points, T:73, escaped 17:49 i now have a few feedback bugs on my to-do 17:50 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:4514 (0:41:01) 17:52 is that archon gazing through wall?? 17:52 *a wall? 17:54 good thing there's no "vulnerability to disintegration" spell 17:54 mobileuser is collecting all the vulns that exist 17:55 [hdf-au] [evil] HungryMotu (Val Dwa Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:4740 (0:47:20) 17:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful baby purple worm, on T:30 (0:00:32) 17:56 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:58 I wonder why vampires are specifically scared of people standing on altars and not the altars themselves 17:59 me too, aosdict 18:00 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of platinum gauntlets entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:5098 (0:50:51) 18:01 I wonder if it's some kind of pun about marriage ceremonies 18:02 "til death do you part" 18:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:965 (0:05:21) 18:02 but that doesn't account for why it's *just* vampires 18:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:65112 (1 day, 16:24:09) 18:08 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5698 (0:58:12) 18:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the White Horse, on T:65116 (1 day, 16:24:53) 18:10 I don't know what this is, but it looks pretty : 18:10 https://elderscrollsonline.info/guides/vampire 18:10 all I know is, if *I* were a vampire, I'd run tf away too 18:11 "Turning you into a Vampire can be done at the Vampire Altar shrine that the Vampire who is going to infect you, first visited during his or her own first Blood Matron quest. In this case one bite could give you the option to become a Vampire." 18:11 yech 18:12 * tinklebear shudders in dread 18:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law), 6020142 points, T:65138, ascended 18:14 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1744990719.evil.html 18:14 \o/ 18:14 yay, mobileuser 18:14 thx! 18:15 I had the eye of vecna, so yes, the archon could see me through a wall 18:15 ah, I see 18:16 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 287 points, T:542, killed by the Goblin King 18:16 neat 18:16 but I killed it 18:16 heh 18:21 wewp 18:25 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Huan Ti, on T:7651 (1:15:18) 18:25 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4667 (0:33:22) 18:38 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 18:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:6081 (0:41:20) 18:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed +3 dragonhide alchemy smock", on T:6205 (0:42:45) 18:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:7555 (0:50:26) 19:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 8180 points, T:10230, suffocated by a creeping mound, while praying 19:02 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:72120 (15:25:49) 19:02 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:72120 (15:25:51) 19:03