00:02 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:53876 (10:28:52) 00:17 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible tinklebear's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:4714 (0:34:48) 00:27 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 2915 points, T:3888, killed by an orc shaman 00:29 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 5950 points, T:5920, killed by a hill orc 00:35 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Dru Trt Fem Neu), 252 points, T:585, killed by a falling rock 00:38 [hdf-au] [evil] Arch (Dru Trt Mal Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:4275 (0:50:40) 00:42 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Dru Trt Fem Neu), 198 points, T:909, killed by a water moccasin 00:46 -!- tinklebear has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:46 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:33684 (7:44:23) 00:55 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (energy vortices), on T:357 (0:03:56) 00:56 [hdf-au] [evil] Arch (Dru Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5513 (1:08:10) 01:01 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 530 points, T:858, killed by a riding accident 01:04 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 338 points, T:247, killed by a dagger 01:10 -!- dingotron2 has joined #evilhack 01:10 OMG The samurai quest leader has a bisecting sword and can step over boulders. 01:11 that is not chill! 01:12 *quest nemesis 01:12 WE ARE GOING TO NOPE OUT OF THERE AND COME BACK LATER 01:14 <@Loggers_VIII> he can step over boulders? i haven't heard of this before 01:14 <@Loggers_VIII> i don't think he can do that. maybe he broke a boulder 01:16 maybe? I was blind so maybe he broke it. the glyph was still there 01:16 either way. not chill! 01:17 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1372 points, T:1250, zapped herself with a wand of magic missile 01:19 I have no ring of free action, or amulet of lifesaving. Not the way I wanted to take that fight without a boulder fort :0 01:20 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:36031 (8:18:08) 01:21 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 126 points, T:503, killed by a system shock 01:21 <@Loggers_VIII> i think the glyph would stay there until you look at that spot unblinded 01:21 <@Loggers_VIII> (boulder) 01:21 <@Loggers_VIII> but yeah he's messed up 01:23 they dont step over boulder 01:24 quest leader/nemesis can destroy boulders if hostile 01:24 ok either way. nasty! I thought it was just the demon lords.. 01:25 and yeah if you were blind when the boulder was broken, the glyph wouldnt change until you looked at that spot again (or walked over it) 01:26 no it wasnt just demon boss types. see https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/6f210b1fa2291be76998a71ec105931ecf6c166f 01:26 ha. the lesser of my immediate concerns in the moment! 01:31 <@Loggers_VIII> @e?ashikaga takauji 01:31 Ashikaga Takauji (@) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 19 | Spd: 12 | Res: petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 40 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 2d6 weapon physical, 2d6 weapon physical, 2d6 claw amulet steal | Align: -13 | omnivore, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis 01:32 wand of death makes quick work of the samurai quest nemesis 01:32 also fairly easy to put to sleep 01:32 wish I had one of those too! 01:33 <@Loggers_VIII> tbh he would be fucked up even if you didn't have to worry about getting instakilled, two weapon attacks with tsurugi dice added to that is pretty nasty 01:33 I had a cursed potion of invis, a scroll of earth and a bunch of projectiles, thought I was ready enough. Narrator: he was not ready. 01:34 <@Loggers_VIII> yeah scrolls of earth don't work now unless you have like a billion of them 01:35 super nasty. lucky I got out of there, he got two attacks on before I got out 01:35 ya I don't understand why they can break through so fast 01:35 so i had the bug fixed that Arch encountered hours ago 01:36 <@Loggers_VIII> honestly i think if you're faster than him you can just kite with projectiles, with the new movement for covetous fellas 01:36 been trying to make some improvements to what monsters would want to take out of a portable container 01:36 gonna put that on the backburner for now 01:36 <@Loggers_VIII> actually, there's a 5% chance that he just teleports to you anyway so I wouldn't recommend it 01:36 good enough to just fix the bug for now 01:40 @loggers Ya, I am not going back until I have an amulet of lifesaving for insurance, as well as wand of death and/or free action. Maybe a wand of polymorph could work in a pinch too. 01:40 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1662 (0:19:36) 01:42 -!- dingotron2 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:46 <@Loggers_VIII> i've never even been to the samurai quest but this ashikaga guy is quite the menace it seems 01:54 he's easy to defeat if you come prepared 01:54 best to keep your distance heh 01:55 EvilHack Commits: Fix: monsters could loot locked containers without opening them if th… https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/218a02992519c379dc9395eb0c28bc7e699f7638 02:44 EvilHack Commits: Fix: prevent shambling horrors from having M3_STATIONARY flag. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/6ac0c19e84bbe936c7aba3433e45bbf511a65402 02:44 EvilHack Commits: Fix: player riding a steed can now feed their steed by throwing food … https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/67dd846703ce2f588daea9d96397c036d272fb32 03:56 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:13 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:51 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 06:01 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:06 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 07:24 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:24 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 07:26 k2, maybe consider preventing shamblers from the hidden flag also? since the hidden flag is, i think, basically the stationary flag if you throw a gold piece at them :-) 07:48 I already don't like the commit that removes stationary 07:49 In my mind they should not be randomly evil, just random 07:55 I just made the mistake of putting on fumbling gloves when I thought I was putting on my shield 07:55 minor trouble unfortunately, god didn't help 07:55 cursed? 07:55 will probably die to fountains now 07:55 yeah 07:55 or get a wish? 07:55 gotta think positively ;) 07:55 that would be nice :-) 08:03 mobileuser never dies, fake news 08:03 lol 08:03 sigh lost one of my dragons 08:04 i really really regret taking gjallar instead of the eye, cant cast for crap 08:04 healers are so bad 08:04 (hush i still love you gjallar) 08:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Odin, on T:4476 (1:20:05) 08:05 ah lol can't take off my invis ring to enter a shop (hoping to price-id remove curse) 08:06 are the gauntlets rustable? 08:06 too bad you cant burn them off in a forge :-) 08:06 anyway the easiest way is probably sexy nymph time 08:07 not seen any yet 08:07 can hobbit pickpockets steal cursed items? 08:08 think so? dont think any thief every cares if something is cursed 08:08 they are leather btw 08:10 4k2: maybe amulet of unchanging shouldnt polymorph? 08:13 isn't that how it behaves 08:16 (when polypiling) 08:20 that would soon leave you with lots of useless amulets of unchanging 08:21 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) had a shield of mobility entrusted to him by Odin, on T:5116 (1:35:52) 08:22 heh a cursed magic lamp 08:22 at least that will make my bones more interesting 08:23 yeah, it would be a polypiling dead-end 08:23 but makes sense 08:23 dip the lamp to uncurse and get a nymph that steals your gloves, problems solved! 08:26 the game really needs another U monster. motionless U spawner like gulthias tree would be cool -- something coughing up confusers and horrors in the sanctum :-) 08:49 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 08:53 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gia Fem Cha), 110 points, T:793, killed by a black pudding 09:02 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1659 (0:08:35) 09:04 damn grazzt blew off all my cancellation and stole both my sources of mr 09:05 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:32221 (7:55:09) 09:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu), 22239 points, T:7871, killed by a gray dragon 09:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) killed Graz'zt, on T:104737 (1 day, 19:34:42) 09:08 eurggh 09:08 my poor staff of the archmagi, i didnt want to cancel you into oblivion, im so sorry 09:10 oof 09:10 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3142 (0:16:54) 09:10 at least you survived 09:10 true true 09:12 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3364 (0:19:06) 09:16 k2: just had a crystal chest disappear. pet dragon picked it up and poof, now it is nowhere 09:17 ...nevermind. im on drugs 09:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1873 (0:16:14) 09:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a black naga hatchling, on T:3432 (0:25:01) 09:39 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2023 points, T:4321, killed by a giant mimic 09:43 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6308 (0:49:52) 10:12 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:11124 (1:19:20) 10:14 :) 10:15 so i stayed up waaaaay too late last night 10:15 fixed some bugs though 10:16 wish tinklebear was here, I have some news for him. prob not gonna like it 10:18 it appears that when you're plucked off your steed because of being engulfed, the code tries to decide where to place your steed (we were correct in the assumption that the engulfing monster assumes the same spot as the player, the steed cant also be in that same spot, so that has to be handled) 10:19 it quasi looks for a safe place to displace your steed, but it's still random. meaning it'll sacrifice your pet to a bad spot if it has to. if i'm reading this correctly, it's by design 10:20 have a look - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/steed.c#L1116-L1193 10:21 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:33 the looting locked carried containers and the food throwing quirk to your steed while riding it - those fixes are now live for 0.9.0 10:34 the shambler stationary flag fix can wait til 0.9.1 is live. enjoy :P 10:40 -!- rebatelo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:41 -!- rebatelo has joined #evilhack 10:42 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:3084 (1:19:05) 10:52 -!- rebatelo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:53 -!- rebatelo has joined #evilhack 10:56 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:19253 (2:02:29) 10:59 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a small glob of gray ooze, on T:5015 (1:36:50) 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:20040 (2:07:28) 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5279 (1:38:37) 11:07 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 13353 points, T:7810, quit 11:09 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "sdflkj", on T:5869 (1:46:33) 11:12 !lastgame tinklebear 11:12 K2: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tinklebear/evilhack/dumplog/1741756111.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tinklebear/evilhack/dumplog/1745040073.evil.html 11:14 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) had a staff of divination entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:21600 (2:20:40) 11:20 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:21946 (2:26:29) 11:26 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:22641 (2:32:51) 11:30 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:22997 (2:36:43) 11:33 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1426 (0:25:09) 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8798 (2:21:16) 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a hill giant shaman, on T:8851 (2:21:51) 11:54 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1516 points, T:2765, killed by a soldier ant 12:00 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 350 points, T:571, killed by a wand 12:03 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 151 points, T:275, killed by a little dart 12:05 meh 12:05 Trap crafting recipes (using trap kit): 12:05 trap kit + 1 polymorph = polymorph trap 12:05 should be '1 wand of polymorph' 12:06 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/pager.c#L1620 12:07 any know why OBJ_NAME() there is only showing 'polymorph' instead of the full obj name? 12:09 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:12 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 12:13 EvilHack Commits: Adjust pricing of crafted traps. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/3abee73bc2cdeadc2ce0ffebde1f3ba0629a87cb 12:16 "The water glows for a moment." 12:17 that's the fumbling gloves dealt with 12:18 \o/ 12:18 unfortunately my dog was killed by water moccasins 12:18 snakes are dicks 12:20 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1288 (0:16:36) 12:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5775 (2:56:54) 12:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:5904 (3:01:34) 12:28 marker! 12:29 <@Loggers_VIII> hax 12:30 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1503 points, T:1787, killed by a riding accident 12:30 HAX 12:33 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Fem Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:37526 (8:41:39) 12:34 answer to wand question: yes, i think when wands are displayed in objnam.c they are case WAND_CLASS, which uses "wand of %s", OBJ_NAME() 12:38 thx 12:39 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:39 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 12:40 thanks krm26 12:40 that gave me a nudge in the right direction 12:50 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 12:56 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:24153 (2:49:53) 13:02 EvilHack Commits: Fix: show correct recipe component identifier for crafted traps in ob… https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/0b4b37d4bf12fe1f01f830271bfd86cc545dccaa 13:04 so poly wand requires 6 charges to craft a poly trap? i think that is statistically worth it for pet-polyers 13:04 yeah 13:04 all traps that require a wand as a component, wand must have minimum of 6 charges 13:04 im not sure if this is desirable or not -- but would it be possible to craft with multiple wands to sum to 6 charges? 13:05 all of those traps are permanent, they dont run out 13:05 poly traps run out 13:05 they can run out on first use 13:05 ah yeah 13:05 well.. still powerful 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:39223 (9:13:47) 13:06 maybe a poly trap should be three potions of polymorph instead of the wand 13:07 because of potion probabilities, it isnt so unusual to run an entire game and never get 3 of them 13:08 alchemy 13:08 can you make poly with alchemy? 13:08 i didnt think so 13:09 ahh you cant 13:09 well 13:09 fook 13:09 honestly, polymorph potions are rarer than wand wishes :-) 13:09 maybe a polymorph wand of any charge 13:10 or a single poly potion 13:11 ...looks like poly potions arent quite as rare as i thought, i must just have special rng 13:11 they are same probability as acid/full healing 13:12 but you can alchemy full healing and there is a moderate amount of fixed acid in the dungeon so i guess it feels like the rarest 13:12 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:11096 (2:46:29) 13:18 <@Loggers_VIII> krm26 they are much rarer than acid and full healing because acid is commonly generated as an attack item and full healing is commonly generated as a defensive item in monster inventory 13:18 poor unloved poly 13:19 -!- \a has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.9.1 - https://znc.in] 13:19 <@Loggers_VIII> yeah. I often go a game without seeing a single polymorph potion 13:20 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 13:20 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a small glob of black pudding, on T:11802 (2:54:11) 13:21 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha), 38266 points, T:11887, petrified by a cockatrice 13:22 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:25 poly is generated as a misc item in monster inventory 13:26 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:26 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 13:28 headed out, back in awhile 13:31 EvilHack Commits: Recipe change for crafting a polymorph trap. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/ece57fdce14ac17decab421c62d6cf3ad986134c 13:39 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became Chih Sung-tzu's Envoy of Balance, on T:35577 (9:30:03) 13:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:106450 (1 day, 20:05:29) 13:54 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "sdflkj", on T:3169 (0:15:40) 13:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:106455 (1 day, 20:05:41) 13:56 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a spear entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:28972 (14:25:05) 14:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Sam Gia Fem Law) performed her first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:29103 (14:33:39) 14:13 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6457 (0:34:37) 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:10859 (0:59:23) 14:39 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Lolth, on T:10927 (1:00:47) 14:41 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:36739 (10:01:58) 14:52 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:12218 (1:14:00) 14:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Sam Gia Fem Law) used a forge to create Glamdring, on T:29653 (14:58:08) 15:13 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Oracle, on T:30321 (15:16:51) 15:16 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) used a forge to create The Staff of the Archmagi, on T:27969 (3:20:58) 15:20 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray ooze, on T:15457 (1:41:36) 15:21 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:28678 (3:26:24) 15:22 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided gray dragons, on T:38618 (10:42:44) 15:22 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided black dragons, on T:38618 (10:42:48) 15:30 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15940 (1:51:54) 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 oilskin cloth elven helm", on T:39159 (10:53:38) 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:39162 (10:54:03) 15:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +3 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:109896 (1 day, 21:13:35) 15:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:109908 (1 day, 21:14:25) 15:37 to replace the non-dragonhide one i ALSO wished for :-P 15:39 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed eye of the aethiopica", on T:109969 (1 day, 21:16:20) 15:39 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) killed Neferet the Green, on T:109969 (1 day, 21:16:20) 15:39 my 50 potions of smoky booze are paying off in spades today 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed fixed marker", on T:109976 (1 day, 21:18:31) 15:43 HAX 15:43 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) had a leather cloak entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:17240 (2:05:18) 15:44 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) had a leather robe entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:17421 (2:05:36) 15:44 4 wishes out of 50 is not really "lucky", but getting my 3rd artifact wish was sweet 15:45 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) had a mithril knife entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:17821 (2:06:28) 15:49 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 15:50 Well this is new to me .... a woodchuck of vengeance. The voice of Thoth booms: "Thou shalt pay for thine indiscretion!"  The woodchuck of Thoth appears before you. 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) had a dark elven dagger entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:19593 (2:12:23) 15:54 :) 15:54 beware the woodchuck of vengeance! 15:55 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 15:55 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) had a magical platinum dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:30607 (4:00:28) 15:55 * tinklebear is here for the Woodchuck of Thoth 15:56 that showing is at 7pm 15:56 :D 15:56 hey tinklebear 15:56 so i had a look at the engulf off of your steed code 15:56 good afternoon, K2! 15:56 oh 15:56 * tinklebear backscrolls 15:57 i'll save ya backscroll 15:57 [10:16] <@K2> wish tinklebear was here, I have some news for him. prob not gonna like it 15:57 [10:18] <@K2> it appears that when you're plucked off your steed because of being engulfed, the code tries to decide where to place your steed (we were correct in the assumption that the engulfing monster assumes the same spot as the player, the steed cant also be in that same spot, so that has to be handled) 15:57 [10:19] <@K2> it quasi looks for a safe place to displace your steed, but it's still random. meaning it'll sacrifice your pet to a bad spot if it has to. if i'm reading this correctly, it's by design 15:57 [10:20] <@K2> have a look - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/steed.c#L1116-L1193 15:57 * tinklebear takes a look 15:58 that bit of code is identical to vanilla, except for the block handling open air 16:03 well, I appreciate very much the pointer and explanation 16:04 from memory of the event, I don't understand why !enexto(&steedcc, u.ux, u.uy, mtmp->data) succeeded 16:04 but if I really need to understand, I'll review the ttyrec sometime 16:05 (like, I seem don't seem to remember the ledge squares being particularly crowded) 16:06 apparently enexto can pick a random spot 16:07 ah. was going to wonder whether enexto() has some quirks that aren't apparent from its name or something 16:07 heh 16:07 thanks again for the pointer 16:07 why did you quit earlier today? as in let yourself get killed in a shop? 16:08 no prob 16:08 me, killed in a shop? 16:08 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tinklebear/evilhack/dumplog/1745040073.evil.html 16:08 that was from earlier today 16:09 oh, that one 16:09 I was struggling to survive after losing the horse, and found myself beset by mosquitoes while burdened 16:09 * K2 nods 16:10 I did manage to survive by dropping the bag (thus unburdening myself) 16:10 kudos to not actually quitting and potentially leaving bones 16:10 but in my haste I accidentally sold my bag and its contents 16:10 ...which constituted, for me, terminal discouragement at that point in timt 16:10 *time 16:11 yeah understandable 16:11 it was dlvl 2, so probably not bones eligible 16:11 but I do aspire to a higher level of stoicism than I displayed at that moment, it is true 16:12 ah well. something to work on 16:16 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:34366 (4:21:42) 16:23 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:34904 (4:28:38) 16:27 one notable thing about that game, is that I encountered two of my own bones, and revived them both 16:28 a nice contrast to the earlier game, where I had to wish for undead turning after 100k turns 16:30 (the horse, OTOH, I "lost" to a polytrap, so undead turning was no help there) 16:33 heh own bones 16:33 my twin! 16:34 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Fem Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:41621 (9:48:36) 16:37 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:40271 (11:14:21) 16:49 Hey yall. I am having a pretty good wizard run. I've got the staff of archmagi, I cleared Fort Ludios and Ice Queens realm. I'm sitting in the castle ( I got in with phasing ), with the pegasus and have the wand of wishing with me. Any big things I need to know before going any farther, did I miss any new branches above the castle? 16:51 [hdf-au] [evil] Arch (Dru Trt Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "XX", on T:13283 (2:57:51) 16:51 I have charging Identified, so I suppose magic marker is somethng I should use one of the wishes for. Can I still engrave the castle wand to get the last wish? 16:51 engraving behavior hasnt been changed 16:52 no branches missed above 16:52 thanks K2! 16:52 o/ 16:57 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1532 (0:23:28) 17:16 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:44019 (10:30:21) 17:17 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha), 63502 points, T:25898, killed by a mumak 17:22 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) had a magical faded spellbook given to her by Anhur, on T:38739 (5:27:22) 17:27 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 oilskin toque", on T:44492 (10:41:17) 17:41 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:3382 (1:01:34) 17:49 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:42789 (5:54:09) 17:49 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:51 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 17:52 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:52 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:00 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:06 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:25 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1314 (0:26:50) 19:33 coplate: remember last wish not guaranteed 19:38 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:8788 (2:46:57) 19:39 guessed right 19:40 \o/ 19:40 :D 19:41 hallucinatory object detection isn't obviously useful, but it *feels* helpful 19:43 a '[', a '?', and a '+'. 19:43 had a real good feeling about that '+' 19:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Monk (Mon Hum Fem Law) had 17 shuriken entrusted to her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:72930 (1 day, 14:16:34) 19:51 k2: any thoughts on letting you read spellbooks even when you don't need a refresher, to reset the timer? my least favorite thing to micromanage (although i do love micromanaging) is spell expirations before ascension 19:52 hadnt really thought about it. if you cast a spell, the 'I forgot how to cast this spell' timer increases. so if you cast a spell enogh times, you never have to re-read the spellbook 19:53 yeah, but nobody ever has the mana for that 19:53 i think in practice that will generally benefit one or at most two spells on any given run 19:53 false 19:54 ok, well, from my play since you implemented that change, even with an infidel (not sure ive run a wizard since?), it certainly hasnt stopped me needing to read for every single spell 19:55 but im just throwing away potential spell duration by reading early, seems like it should be possible 19:55 that's on the player. i take advantage of that everytime i play and have spells i want to keep 19:55 its very doable 19:56 as a level 17 healer it was not possible for me to upkeep all the spells i want, not even close, before wishing for the eye. not sure i can even do it with the eye. 19:56 again, false 19:57 its very doable, esp as a primary caster 19:57 am i only supposed to want to cast 2 or 3 spells? 19:57 i dunno. i have no idea how many spells you use on a regular basis 19:57 force bolt, magic missile, extra healing, critical healing, stone to flesh, remove curse, repair armor, restore ability, detect monster, identify, jumping 19:57 yeah easy 19:58 how many extra turns does a cast give you? 19:59 a lot, looking up the commit 19:59 and i have to say with all respect i think you are on drugs. so an antimatter vortex comes along and i have to dump all my spell power into magic missile to kill it. so gotta wait for my power to come back before i can start "maintenance spellcasting". but oh no! pets need healing. i mean, i am using my mana for what the game requires, i dont have mana for spell knowledge maintenance 19:59 mobileuser! back me up, help me beat up k2 20:00 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/5b8e189ab8bfdc712de0b90df6a5659db3443fa2 20:01 so if you get 100 extra turns per cast you need to be casting every spell you want every 100 turns... and we all know how little power is recovered by most roles/equip-loadouts in 100 turns 20:01 i mean, that is a nice bonus, but it is no spell-perpetuity engine 20:02 you still gotta read for basically all your spells 20:02 anyhoo, it just seems like basically a huge qol improvement to let you read a book at any stage of retention 20:03 without any downsides 20:03 minus like, the usual chance the spellbook is too complex 20:03 otherwise i just gotta pack any spell at 20% retention into my ascension kit 20:03 what umbire? 20:04 i dont understand 20:04 im talking about not forbidding players from reading a spellbook that they have too high a retention in, and resetting their say 75% retention or 20% retention to 100% 20:05 i'm more apt to change the number of turns gained per cast rather than implement being able to re-read spellbook whenever you want 20:05 really? 20:05 i need to tweak this bit anyways, draugr isnt accounted for (I think) 20:06 as in, you reroll the INT check or whatever for each read 20:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Monk (Mon Hum Fem Law) genocided shocking spheres, on T:73672 (1 day, 14:31:12) 20:06 is what I was referring to 20:08 well, that is one of the few minigames that i think i wont be able to do...trying to remember to cast knock every n turns no matter what else you are doing, etc 20:08 just have to keep occasionally spending 1000 turns sitting and spinning before killing rodney to make sure i can get all of my spells at a high enough retention before the ascension run 20:10 sometimes i'll just carry a book in my BoH if it's gonna run out near the beginning of the run 20:11 also with the magic chests i don't really find myself even needing to do that 20:11 yes, i frequently have to take a couple of books along with me on the ascension run because of unfortunate timeouts 20:11 and spellcasting is huge part of my game 20:11 but i prefer waiting around and making sure it is unnecessary if the retention math works out 20:12 like i'll take the book and then when i read it just drop it since i obviously won't be needing it again 20:12 even barely-casting roles like caveman i often want a fair number of spells 20:13 id need like in-game alarms going off..."time to cast magic missile!" "time to cast force bolt!" 20:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Monk (Mon Hum Fem Law) destroyed the invisible rebatelo's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:73893 (1 day, 14:41:17) 20:17 oh damn I died on the quest? 20:17 those should be some good bones 20:17 quest bones are always a treat 20:19 oh yeah he i had dragonbane 20:19 and he quit! I guess he wasn't as excited as i was for him 20:20 EvilHack Commits: Revamp the amount of turns earned in remembering cast spells. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/fa440b2056ce402dae55dce9ba258de98cf73a63 20:21 looks liek it was this game https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatelo/evilhack/dumplog/1741490650.evil.html 20:21 <@Loggers_VIII> that’s a nice commit. I always found it relatively impossible to keep the spells I wanted to use memorized purely by casting 21:02 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12418 (4:11:20) 21:09 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:50162 (13:23:28) 21:09 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:50186 (13:23:57) 21:11 -!- sludge_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:14 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Baphomet, on T:50290 (13:28:58) 21:21 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Inf Ith Mal Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8722 (2:23:21) 21:25 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Inf Ith Mal Una), 16076 points, T:9089, poisoned by a rotted gnoll corpse, while praying 21:31 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.5.1] 22:18 -!- Arch89 has joined #evilhack 22:18 rebatelo  quit? nah, just saved so I did not _lose_ those bones. 22:19 I remember when that happened to you 22:19 I save when good things happen 22:20 so may times I find something great or do something amazing and then a bug or crash comes along and I lose it all 22:20 Arch89 the looting locked containers in mon inventory is fixed patch is live 22:20 (in ANY roguelike) 22:20 so odd its been around for 6 years. 22:21 and glad you were finally able to kill that bug 22:22 and thanks, rebatelo, those bones rounded out my ascension kit more and Dragonbane was nice.  was worried was going to have to wish for D'bane and Grayswandir. 22:23 only two altars left to get artifacts from 22:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:114558 (1 day, 23:24:02) 22:31 "The altar glows checkered." 22:31 The voice of Moloch booms: "Thou shalt pay for thine indiscretion!" 22:32 hallucination? 22:32 "The rothe of Anhur appears before you." 22:32 yes. 22:32 he sent me a succubus 22:32 whew 22:33 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:15952 (5:32:34) 22:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class R, on T:115414 (1 day, 23:43:15) 22:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) genocided umber hulks, on T:115415 (1 day, 23:43:39) 22:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class c, on T:115416 (1 day, 23:43:56) 22:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class c, on T:115416 (1 day, 23:44:00) 22:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) genocided green slimes, on T:115417 (1 day, 23:44:45) 22:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) genocided alhoons, on T:115418 (1 day, 23:44:54) 22:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:115418 (1 day, 23:44:58) 22:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) genocided arch-liches, on T:115419 (1 day, 23:45:13) 22:49 -!- dingotron2 has joined #evilhack 22:50 why won't my balrog accept a shield of reflection? It has the carrying capacity 22:50 and is able to wear shields 22:50 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Sam Gia Mal Law), 1904 points, T:3292, killed by a mountain dwarf 22:51 shield of reflection is silver material by default 22:51 demons hate silver 22:52 ah 22:52 thx 22:52 if you find a steel one, or gold, or mithril or adamantine or whatever else, they'll wear it 22:56  they also wear a silver shield with gloves? or not? 22:56 (may be remembering incorrectly) 23:02 Don't think so 23:03 nope. this Balrog has gloves too. 23:03 silver explains it 23:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:116436 (2 days, 0:06:43) 23:10 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law), 51392 points, T:17555, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted queen ant 23:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:116450 (2 days, 0:07:38) 23:15 -!- tinklebear has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:27 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 63 points, T:327, killed by a goblin 23:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Monk (Mon Hum Fem Law) killed Master Kaen, on T:75899 (1 day, 15:50:41) 23:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Monk (Mon Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:75901 (1 day, 15:50:46) 23:34 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:32206 (16:24:22) 23:35 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1431 (0:07:25) 23:39 -!- dingotron2 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Monk (Mon Hum Fem Law) completed her quest without incident, on T:76234 (1 day, 15:59:07) 23:45 -!- dingotron2 has joined #evilhack 23:45 PSA do not stand next Croesus riding a Centaur, while distractedly fighting an orange dragon 23:50 so if 100% fire resistant, monk's level 23 water walking does not allow for walking across the lava — does it? 23:51 it kinda sorta makes sense, walking across hot coals in religious practices. 23:51 but lava is not just hot coals 23:51 it is goopy. 23:54 @e?orange dragon 23:54 orange dragon (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 9 | Res: sleep | Confer: sleep | MR: 20 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d25 breath sleep, 4d8 bite physical, 4d4 claw physical, 4d4 claw physical, 2d10 engulf digest, 0d2 passive slow | Align: -5 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis 23:54 ah right passive slow