00:05 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1980 (0:12:28) 00:13 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 4157 points, T:3576, killed by a bone crossbow bolt 00:14 you get a short burst of intrinsic displacement. Great for crowded encounters 00:19 that's neat 00:23 <@Silken> first game of Evilhack, drank from a forge and died 00:23 <@Silken> would do again 00:27 <@Silken> got food poisoning and died 00:28 <@Silken> I have a feeling this is going to keep happening for a while 00:38 <@Loggers_VIII> forges are pretty great if you can stifle the urge to incinerate your throat 00:39 <@Loggers_VIII> even if you don't use them to make weapons and shit, they're good for dipping zombie corpses in 00:41 <@Silken> makes sense- I tried to use the forge but was told I needed a blacksmithing hammer 00:41 <@Silken> in my current run I got caught in a magical explosion and apparently gained quite a lot of maximum energy from that, which is nice 00:42 <@Loggers_VIII> ahh it's great when that happens, random magic trap effect 00:42 not as fun as the "It smells kinda funky in here!" one 00:42 <@Loggers_VIII> the blacksmith's hammer is always in a chest in a cell by the forge in goblin town - there's only one, so be careful with it if you wanna forge stuff 00:43 <@Loggers_VIII> tinklebear: is that the hallu version of "it smells like charred flesh"? 00:43 it's an alternate trap-destroying effect 00:43 it makes you hallucinate 00:44 for a while 00:44 longer than a black light, I think, and it seems like it's shorter than a violet fungus 00:45 <@Loggers_VIII> huh, i've never gotten this 00:45 <@Loggers_VIII> i mean, i've gotten the hallu thing. not the funky message 00:45 hm 00:46 interesting 00:47 I recently found out that there's a decent chance to bless things by forge dipping, if you have obtained good luck 00:48 I had not known this 00:48 best for metallic stuff (for fairly obvious reasons) 00:48 yeahbut you need positive luck, I think. otherise 00:48 *yeah 00:48 what did I document... 00:48 but you need the positive luck, or you're just tempting fate to blow up the forge 00:48 the article just needs recipe updates 00:48 <@Loggers_VIII> i wanna say it's like 6 luck 00:49 <@Loggers_VIII> (and above) 00:49 Yep 00:49 oh. yeah, maybe that 00:49 <@Silken> so I stepped in water and all my spellbooks and scrolls got erased 00:49 +6 luck 00:49 so, super good luck then 00:49 not unreasonable but takes some Work 00:49 <@Silken> I forgot that's what happens, haven't played nethack for a while 00:49 <@Loggers_VIII> i recommend adding paranoid confirmation for liquid to your config 00:49 any given "good luck" item means you're halfway there 00:50 <@Loggers_VIII> i forget the syntax. is it just OPTIONS=paranoid_confirmation:liquid ? 00:51 now all you need is some ink, @Silken 00:52 <@Loggers_VIII> hah, the evilhack dungeon sadly is going through quite the ink shortage as opposed to vanilla 00:52 heh 00:52 <@Silken> is there a difference in mechanics or just drop rates? 00:52 <@Loggers_VIII> magic markers just don't spawn randomlyl 00:52 <@Loggers_VIII> *randomly 00:52 <@Silken> does that mean there's a fixed number? 00:53 sometimes there is one in the goblin king's throne room chest 00:53 but not very often 00:53 you have a coin-flip chance of getting one from the top of sokoban, if you pick the door that has a magical tool 00:54 <@Silken> never mind, died to a swarm of pirahnas 00:54 <@Loggers_VIII> well, saying they don't generate randomly is a little misleading. they won't deathdrop, generate on the floor, and you can't get them from polypiling. there's small chances of them in multiple special levels, like the ice queen's realm, goblin town, the hidden dungeon, rodney's tower. and there's always one in the sanctum 00:54 <@Silken> makes sense. but does that mean that there's a maximum number you can get? 00:54 <@Loggers_VIII> and 50% chance of one in soko as tinklebear says 00:54 you can wish em 00:54 <@Loggers_VIII> not technically, you can wish for them 00:54 <@Silken> true 00:55 so in theory no but in practice you're not getting very many every game 00:55 but ideally you shouldn't need but so many either 00:55 <@Loggers_VIII> i wanna say the most you could get without a wish is six? 00:55 <@Loggers_VIII> that's like, never-gonna-happen odds though 00:56 <@Loggers_VIII> actually, seven 00:56 also the forge blessing is a 1/15 thing and doesn't do anything (besides usual effects) if you don't have the 6 luck 00:56 when you roll that, I mean 00:56 yeah. you need the luck 00:56 <@Loggers_VIII> goblin king, ice queen, vecna, sanctum, hidden dungeon, rodney, sokoban 00:56 forge exploding can only happen with negative luck 00:57 <@Loggers_VIII> worth noting is that the forge blessing thing only works on metallic items 00:57 yeah I mentioned 00:57 oh really, Umbire? zero luck won't explode it? 00:57 <@Loggers_VIII> so don't spend a billion years trying to bless a magic key 00:57 it might be 0 or less, it might be "below 0" 00:57 yeah, I don't know either 00:57 <@Loggers_VIII> it's below 0 i think 00:57 fountain.c says... 00:57 I mean I wrote it down as negative, but I'm double checking here 00:58 yep, below 0 00:58 <@Loggers_VIII> i believe at 0 and above, the lava just surges up and splashes on you instead 00:58 3d8 fire damage, yes 00:58 cool. thanks for checking 00:58 <@Loggers_VIII> i'm on fire today 00:58 :D 00:58 <@Loggers_VIII> eh? fire? eh? eh? 00:58 the forge article has majority of the mechanics accounted for, just the forging item recipes I have to deal with 00:58 since they diverged between hackem and evil 00:59 * Umbire rewards Loggers with a scroll of fire 00:59 <@Loggers_VIII> hell yeah 00:59 ... 00:59 <@Loggers_VIII> that sounds like a nightmare to document re: hackem/evil diverging on recipes 01:00 in practice not especially, I can prob. set aside some time to just 01:00 stare at each game's fountain.c for like 30 minutes 01:01 real issue is there's like 5000 different things I have to do that sorta thing for 01:01 I just got down the "Vlad stops vampire geno" thing along with slotting out an article for him, splitting Lifestealer properly, etc. etc. 01:02 JUST got down the hackem monster spell changes 01:02 <@Loggers_VIII> i wrote down all the evilhack forging recipes for some reason and it took me an embarrassingly long time 01:03 it's a lot of recipes 01:03 <@Loggers_VIII> you really should be able to select a page from the blacksmith's cookbook i think 01:03 heh, I still reread it 01:04 <@Silken> so there's a mace called Demonbane in a shop 01:04 <@Silken> not that I can presumably use it as a wizard anyway even if I managed to steal it (or pay 48k gold) 01:05 you can but you'll be restricted in the skill and it'll likely blast you 01:05 <@Loggers_VIII> yeah, wizards in evilhack aren't big on weapons 01:05 if it were me specifically I'd see about stealing it just because I could tbh 01:05 <@Loggers_VIII> force bolt is overpowered af so it doesn't matter much 01:06 <@Silken> I've noticed that, yes 01:06 <@Loggers_VIII> (early game, anyway) 01:06 <@Loggers_VIII> the pw cost scales with your skill in attack spells, so if you want to keep the cost at one point hold off advancing for a bit 01:09 if you know what you want to forge, then "/? name-of-item" tells you the recipe 01:10 and if you don't know what you want to forge, then why not page through the manual at random anyways? 01:10 I'm not personally arguing for this. just pointing out the logic 01:10 <@Silken> oh, hey, boots of speed 01:11 <@Silken> (different run) 01:11 <@Loggers_VIII> here's my logic: why can't my character flip to a page in the book they choose 01:12 very fair question 01:12 where is the table of contents 01:14 <@Loggers_VIII> I like viewing some sections (like ones for racial gear) all at once, since the recipes branch off from each other and i can see how to forge what i want and how to forge the components 01:15 <@Loggers_VIII> small gripe of course though 01:15 it's a totally fair point 01:15 it's why i still reread the manual 01:16 <@Loggers_VIII> it was when i was rereading the book many times as a drow ranger that i finally caved and wrote my own on some scrap paper :p 01:16 I mean, I know the recipes I use by heart, but I like to try to digest the bigger picture, slowly, little by little 01:17 <@Loggers_VIII> some of that drow stuff can take a while to be available cuz you need not only drow arrows but drow crossbow bolts too 01:17 (and actually, for my slow-digest purpose, the rando page-flip mechanic works well) 01:17 <@Loggers_VIII> i know most of the recipes aside from polearms because polearms are laaaaaaaaaame 01:18 hah. of course you would say that 01:18 you're just trying to goad me :D 01:18 but you get stacks of dark elven arrows but not the bolts? 01:19 I get bolts, but hardly any arrows 01:19 <@Loggers_VIII> as a ranger you start with a ton of arrows 01:19 ah. yeah 01:19 I see 01:19 I don't do ranger much 01:20 <@Loggers_VIII> some polearms actually do have my respect, but of course i don't ride so for me they are largely junk 01:20 <@Loggers_VIII> maybe i will play some more centaurs 01:21 <@Loggers_VIII> YANI: drow rangers have a chance to start with a hand crossbow and a stack of bolts, rather than a bow and arrows 01:22 I'll just play more rogues, and make sure I have bones turned on 01:24 I guess a ranger wants to make the short sword or something? 01:25 or are you just wanting a big stack of daggers? 01:25 <@Loggers_VIII> i want a good broadsword mostly 01:25 ah. i always forget the broadsword 01:25 I see 01:25 <@Loggers_VIII> daggers too though 01:26 <@Loggers_VIII> it kind of annoys me that i have to wait so long to get it, because it's not even that good :p 01:26 <@Loggers_VIII> i just think it's cool 01:26 heh, I know the feeling 01:27 <@Loggers_VIII> damn, it's late. time for me to go pass out 01:27 good night 01:27 past my bedtime too 01:28 good luck, @Silken 01:28 <@Loggers_VIII> night o/ 01:28 <@Silken> thank you! 01:28 \o 01:28 -!- tinklebear has left #evilhack 01:50 Almost all the polearm recipes involve spears 03:02 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Merc (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 76 points, T:171, killed by a black pudding 04:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:729 (0:03:03) 05:07 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:08 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 06:00 -!- mode/Hecubus [+Ziw] by Hecubus 06:00 -!- osmium.libera.chat changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.9.0 available for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack ¤ https://redd.it/1i8itv1 06:00 -!- mode/#evilhack [+v Hecubus] by ChanServ 06:11 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:33 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 06:54 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:03 ab mobileuser 07:03 ab Umbire 07:03 the blasting thing from the other day was alignment record stuff, which hadn't come up since I'd been testing with everything not a draugr up to that point 07:04 also keolewa and to a lesser extent giantslayer has their evil stuff noted 07:06 bit more meat on harbinger to boot 07:08 heh yeah I saw the negative alignment thing in the irclog 07:16 anything you think urgently needs addressing? 07:17 if not I was planning to take a nap and then address forge stuff 07:17 can't think of anything at the moment 07:21 Aye 07:21 no worries 07:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Vecna, on T:105446 (1 day, 19:18:06) 07:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Gno Fem Neu) genocided alhoons, on T:105455 (1 day, 19:19:21) 07:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Gno Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:105625 (1 day, 19:25:12) 08:06 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 5022 points, T:7498, killed by the Goblin King 08:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Gno Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed platinum yendorian express card", on T:105890 (1 day, 19:50:37) 08:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Gno Fem Neu) killed Twoflower, on T:105892 (1 day, 19:50:49) 08:21 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 08:36 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2045 points, T:2897, poisoned by a dwarf zombie 08:43 nice work krm26, on track to take another green box away from me :-) 08:54 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 08:54 heh 08:55 im at the stage where it is mostly done except for the doing, which is where i historically walk off a cliff while not paying attention 08:55 so you may still be safe! besides arent you taking my druid away? 09:01 let's see... 09:02 nah, I've only done 1 drood so far 09:03 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:07 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3423 (0:23:01) 09:07 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:3441 (0:23:23) 09:09 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 503 points, T:1602, killed by a dart 09:09 Hello all. I've got a wish from a smoky potion, and I never know what to use it on in Evilhack. I'm a wizard, who doesnt currently have any scrolls of enchant armor or charging. I do not have charging identified. I have a lot of blank scrolls. Thoughts on if I should go for dragon scale, or dragonhide gloves of something, or a cornuthaum, or any other recomendations? I'm currently in Fort 09:09 Ludios, with a hostile mind flayer waiting outside on the other side of the portal 09:11 if you are early and not sure what to do, there is always the dragonhide t-shirt of decay/esp/excellence 09:11 or the fireproof oilskin toque 09:11 if you want to just ignore the mind flayer 09:11 a fireproof oilskin toque is decent ascension gear 09:12 If I'm reading the wiki right as well, the first artifact I wish for always comes without its owner, right? 09:12 nope 09:12 no no no 09:13 do not wish for a quest artifact unless you are prepared for the wielder/wearer 09:13 and i would avoid wishing for a non-quest artifact until you've seen what your upper dungeon altars give you 09:13 ok, wiki may need to be updated: "The odds that a wished artifact will not come with its owner is also 1⁄X + 1, where X is the number of previous artifact wishes made." 09:14 what is your level, what is your gear? 09:14 ...and race 09:15 gnome , level 11, wizard, nothing great gear wise, got the amulet of magic resistance and a robe, then random armor. I do have a pet Golden Naga who is helping me out a lot. 09:16 what alignment? 09:16 dragonhide armor has been my go-to for various things, but I lost my last good character at the quest and the dark one's tentacles really did a number on me, so I am more wary of mind flayers right now. Neutral Alignment 09:17 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2859 points, T:2457, killed by a chameleon called Chris 09:17 in your place i'd probably do blessed +3 dragonhide speed boots if you think you can handle the mind flayer yourself at range, otherwise blessed +3 fixed oilskin toque 09:17 I'm pretty sure I cannot genocide mind flayers right now? or is that just 'h' with blessed I cannot do 09:17 you can genocide them 09:18 blessed will genocide 2 random monsters from h, not worth it at all 09:18 but personally i think that is a waste of genocide, if genocide is your only other option, get the oilskin toque 09:18 would a magic marker to mass produce enchant armor and a scroll of genocide be useful, or woudl you still recommend the toque? 09:18 ok 09:18 the toque will also make you immune to satyr pipes 09:19 and later, celestial dragon sonics 09:19 thats good too. yeah, never had that in regular nethack, lets try it out 09:19 my first genocide is normally beholders after tal'gath, unless i get it really early and use it on gel cubes 09:19 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 oilskin toque", on T:21368 (3:48:20) 09:20 it is also a very good idea in the early dungeon to carry a scroll of genocide if you have one, in case you unexpectedly find yourself dying to a creeping mound, cube, etc 09:21 I'm going to go see if I can take care of that mind flayer, be back in a bit 09:21 good luck! 09:22 yep, easy peasy. he landed about 6 tentacle attacks on me though, thanks for the recomendation :-D 09:22 it is also nice because there can be player monster illithids and draugr you cant genocide who will both mess up your head without it 09:25 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 902 points, T:1787, killed by a bugbear 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 175 points, T:110, killed by falling down a mine shaft 09:36 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 12917 points, T:8006, killed by a wolf, while being terrified of a ghost 09:47 Welp, a beholder just cast it's stoning gaze at me and my pet. I have a blessed magic lamp I *might* be able to use before it becomes permanent. I prayed too recently becuase I couldn't be bothered to go back to the pile of food 09:48 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2741 (0:20:27) 09:48 wow, really early for beholders! guess you dont have warning... how many rounds do you have? no lizard in open inventory? no blindfold? 09:49 the lamp is just as likely to puff and not give you a wish before you are stoned so it is a really bad option 09:49 I have a towel on now, I just forgot about beholders in evilhack. 09:49 no acid, not lizard 09:49 so you have already used a single round? 09:50 "You meet the beholder's lethargic gaze. You slow down." 09:50 then you used the blindfod? 09:50 "The invisible golden naga's extremities are stiffening." 09:50 The invisible golden naga's extremities are stiffening. 09:50 yeah your naga is toast, ignore him 09:50 yeah, then I used the blindfold 09:51 so you have a single turn left i think before your limbs are petrified 09:51 ok, so the lethargic gaze is not the same as the stoning gaze? 09:51 ohhhh, you just got slowed? hahaha 09:51 then you are cool 09:51 just kill the bastard blindfolded 09:51 phew! 09:51 sorry, wasnt paying enough attention :-) 09:52 no, I wasnt either! 09:52 can always unstone the naga at a later date 09:52 I thought I was on the first round of the paralysis 09:52 i thought you werent that low in the dungeon, beholder may be a chameleon 09:52 or the result of a poly trap 09:53 i often dont see a single beholder until after the castle 09:53 I've found Magic Eyes? before in th Ludios, but I dont remember about beholders. 09:53 magic eyes are much earlier 09:53 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a hexagonal amulet on an altar, on T:3504 (0:25:36) 09:53 warning is super-critical for gel cubes, creeping mounds, beholders 09:54 OK, lets see if I can avenge my boy 09:54 i have never encountered a beholder before getting lizard corpses unless it was because of a shapechanger or poly trap 09:55 wand of death to the rescue, I'm sorry Naga, I have to abandon you here and run away! 09:57 once you are blindfolded beholders arent that dangerous, wouldnt spend a death charge on one 09:57 he was in a massive throng of monsters, and I just wanted to end him :-) 09:58 I'm going to go back up and collect some more useful stuff 09:58 Thanks again for the help 09:58 my pleasure! 10:02 sweet 10:03 been running errands and stuff all morning, finally able to sit down and check irc :P 10:08 nothing to behold here 10:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:16 (0:00:07) 10:14 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3778 (0:32:30) 10:23 krm26 hah 10:26 -!- malor_ has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 10:27 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 10:29 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:33 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:25926 (5:02:07) 10:34 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 10:35 a wish and a forge away from the staff of the archmagi coplate! 10:37 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5828 (0:55:40) 10:40 any thoughts on trading the magic lamp for that staff? since it gives off light. But it doesnt seem to have a way to turn it off 10:40 @e?beholder 10:40 beholder (e) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 6 | Res: cold shock poison petrification | Confer: poison | MR: 50 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -8 | Atk: 0d0 gaze slow, 2d25 gaze sleep, 8d8 gaze disintegrate, 0d0 gaze petrification, 4d4 gaze cancellation, 8d8 bite physical | Align: -10 | genocidable, flies, breathless, nopoly, infravis 10:40 They're nopoly, so I don't think beholder chameleons are a thing 10:40 If it's out of depth it must be bones 10:41 It was Fort Ludios, is that a target for bones? 10:44 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:6467 (1:02:39) 10:45 I don't think so. It's got a branch portal and those levels can't have bones (unless EvilHack removed that limitation) 10:58 it didnt 11:01 i would definitely trade a magic lamp for the staff -- BUT, important to remember, not all magic lamps will give you a wish. so i would probably only trade my *2nd* lamp :-) 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a small shield entrusted to him by Kos, on T:8417 (1:19:16) 11:04 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:28474 (5:32:55) 11:04 that one is less useful 11:05 i have been burnt before using my only magic lamp for a non-critical need and ending up with nothing 11:07 ^^ yep 11:07 thats the game though... 11:07 what is the chance for blessed magic lamp is it 80%? 11:08 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a spear entrusted to him by Kos, on T:8779 (1:26:02) 11:13 yes 11:16 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 94814 points, T:30201, suffocated by a gelatinous cube 11:16 sun of a betch 11:16 aw man 11:16 I had an amulet of magical breathing on me, but I couldnt get it on in time 11:16 see that is a good emergency genocide 11:16 I used my first turn to pull a wand out of my bag instead 11:17 :/ 11:17 I'm out for the workday. Be back in 6 or so hours 11:17 only useful wands for a gel cube are death and teleportation 11:17 wand of digging can work in a pinch as well 11:17 ...duh and that :-) 11:18 dont feel too bad coplate, we've all been there 11:19 first time it happened to me was in grunthack, but it had a bug where once you escaped from inside the gelcube, you'd still be suffocating 11:19 heh 11:20 that's just rude 11:20 one of the first bugs we fixed in grunthack 11:20 weee got my stitches out today 11:21 been advised to not shave and grow a beard 11:21 hahah yes 11:21 we've been telling you to grow a beard for ages! 11:21 take that wife that hates it when i grow a beard 11:21 i told ya about the incision i got on my face last week yeah? 11:22 no, i missed that! mouth off to the wife? 11:22 :) 11:22 we men are so lucky, any scars we get are cool 11:22 i had a biopsy for a mole over a month ago, they scraped it off, sent it off, pathology came back ok but it had potential to not be ok, so last week they dug into my face to get more out 11:23 i now have a nearly 5 inch vertical scar on my right cheek near my ear 11:23 14 outside stitches, 6 inside 11:24 oo ow -- that sounds like a big deal, if you are lucky they can just do a mohs procedure 11:24 if i take care of it and put sunscreen on it when i'm outside, scar could pretty much fade away after a year or so 11:24 glad it wasnt more serious 11:24 but maybe i want the extra scar 11:24 yeah me too 11:24 id go for a facial scar, most of mine are on my hands, you gotta work to bring em into conversation 11:25 wife is going in for a third followup surgery this friday, she tripped while off in ny to do some surgeries at the start of the year and broke off both her front teeth 11:25 oooh shit 11:25 they have had a hell of a time getting all the little tooth fragments out of her upper lip 11:26 i've had broken teeth, it is not fun 11:26 she keeps bitching about wanting to do the surgery on herself, it is incessant 11:26 "i could have gotten them all out the first time grumble grumble" 11:26 so tooth replacement? crowns? 11:26 two front crowns, yeah 11:27 both the front teeth were broken into jagged shards, it was *seriously* horror movie stuff 11:27 awesome 11:27 i want vampire fangs 11:27 get her some vamp fangs while she's in for the crowns 11:27 she would take no input from me on replacement teeth 11:28 replacement teeth are *expensive* 11:28 crowns much cheaper 11:28 hah even so, blew through our hsa for the year in january 11:28 good thing we dont have socialized medicine :-( 11:29 nearly 30 yrs ago I was t-boned by a drunk driver driving a van. my date wasnt wearing her seat belt (which in this rare case prob saved her life), her body flew into mine, my face kept her from being ejected out the drivers side window 11:29 her head slammed into my jaw. somehow my jaw didnt break or even fracture, but the impact shattered 3 upper molars 11:30 broken teeth are the WORST (i also have an unreasoning fear of dentistry in general) 11:30 didnt even notice until the next day when i tried to eat 11:30 i thought i had swallowed glass but it was actually parts of my pulverized teeth :) 11:31 so i got crowns, a front tooth was chipped as well, fixed that. fast forward 20+ years, turns out the impact had caused micro fractures in several more teeth and over the years they;d slowly get worse 11:31 mouth fulla gold! 11:32 so i now have two fake lower molars (damage was too much for crowns) 11:32 and as of late last year i'm feeling the same pain in 4-5 other molars 11:32 pre covid to get a new tooth replacement ran about 5000 USD per tooth 11:33 they put posts in? ive managed to avoid that so far, cringe just thinking about it 11:33 i went to canada to have it done, saved nearly 50% 11:33 yeah titanium posts 11:33 ugh 11:33 i guess anything is better than dentures 11:33 i dont even wanna think about how much that same procedure wouls cost now 11:33 *would 11:34 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:35 -!- rebatelo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:35 i wouldnt mind getting veneers but that doesnt do anything for the micro fractures 11:35 i need another deep scan to see where i'm at with those, bleh 11:37 -!- rebatelo has joined #evilhack 11:59 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:59 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 12:14 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:60013 (2 days, 21:55:59) 12:42 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 12:52 How many new spells are there?!? 12:52 not complaining... DId it like double? 12:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:41860 (11:13:02) 13:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a wooden banded mail entrusted to her by Odin, on T:13626 (3:45:22) 13:00 evocation is an entirely new school of spells, isn't it? 13:01 so, maybe not double, but a significant addition for sure 13:01 *proportion 13:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 37597 points, T:13700, killed by an ogre queen 13:04 barkskin, create lawn, summon naked mole rat 13:04 florida or something, basically 13:04 lol 13:04 i someone misplaced my magic missile spbk and power kill 13:05 somehow* 13:05 and i'm about to forget the mm spell 13:05 so annoying i have a ZILLION spellbooks but haven't found polymorph yet 13:05 and no marker 13:05 it's driving me nuts i keep having items disappear 13:05 i lost a robe the other day, and now spellbooks 13:06 :( 13:06 magic missile is the prize, for sure 13:06 at least, I think so 13:07 do you still have the castle wand ahead of you? 13:08 ok... another samurai or back to knight? 13:08 tough choice! 13:09 chop chop or joust? 13:09 !rng chop joust 13:09 bouquet: chop 13:09 samurai it is! 13:11 good luck, bouquet 13:12 tinklebear: yes I'm at the castle, but haven't cleared yet 13:12 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:937 (0:09:18) 13:12 one thing i thought of is maybe i left the magic chest (with my stash) unlocked by mistake and a monster took the books? 13:12 but they would have taken other stuff right? 13:12 might depend on the monster 13:12 hmmm 13:12 is there a magic chest at the castle? 13:12 pretty sure at least some monsters would be interested 13:13 i cleared ludios and none of them had it 13:13 yeah, there's one at the castle 13:13 i wondewr 13:13