00:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Mal Cha) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:61125 (20:08:11)
01:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:61277 (20:13:58)
01:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:61282 (20:14:33)
01:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Mal Cha) genocided black dragons, on T:61283 (20:14:49)
01:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:61453 (20:19:21)
01:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2978 (0:18:39)
01:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consumed animal products (fortune cookie) for the first time, on T:3560 (0:22:11)
01:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3560 (0:22:11)
01:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the giant high priestess of Moloch, on T:61773 (20:27:00)
01:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:61774 (20:27:07)
01:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3795 (0:24:58)
01:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed Lucifer, on T:61853 (20:32:43)
01:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Mal Cha) entered Purgatory, on T:61858 (20:33:53)
01:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed Saint Michael, on T:62047 (20:44:15)
01:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 9158 points, T:5426, killed by a gray unicorn
01:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:62715 (21:03:49)
01:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:62917 (21:11:51)
01:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Black Horse, on T:62920 (21:11:57)
02:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 7440844 points, T:62936, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1742688365.evil.html
02:02 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> grats bouquet!!!
02:05 <Umbire> gg
02:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Ran Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:918 (0:03:10)
02:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Ran Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1019 (0:03:59)
02:32 <Umbire> what happened to stin% D:
02:32 <Umbire> s/stin/sting
02:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Ran Dro Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1310 (0:07:45)
02:46 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> umbire: well i died in vecna :(
02:46 <Umbire> F
02:46 <Umbire> what walled you there
02:46 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> super fast run though, it made me feel good about my chances of maybe trying more speedy evilhack in the future
02:46 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> a scared elder minotaur decided to stand and bang instead of running away for some reason
02:52 <Umbire> damn
02:53 <Umbire> I think for Sting% you're gonna have to lean on way more poisoning against certain monsters
02:53 <Umbire> @?elder minotaur
02:53 <Hecubus> No such monster.
02:53 <Umbire> @e?elder minotaur
02:53 <Hecubus> elder minotaur (H) | Lvl: 26 | Diff: 29 | Spd: 14 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 25 | Gen: gehennom | AC: -8 | Atk: 6d6 claw physical, 6d6 claw physical, 6d4 hug physical, 8d4 butt knockback | Align: -4 | genocidable, carnivore, thick hide, stalker, infravis
02:53 <Umbire> esp. since stuff like that^ in the late game ain't resistant
02:56 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> a stack of venom daggers would be good
03:19 <Umbire> tbh yeah
03:19 <Umbire> or like venom darts with drow poison
03:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] HungryMotu (Mon Cen Mal Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:28119 (8:08:43)
03:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] HungryMotu (Mon Cen Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28125 (8:09:13)
03:58 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> umbire: really late but you can poison daggers in evil so no need for darts
03:58 <Umbire> yeah but they're lighter
03:59 <Umbire> less likely for the drow poison to wear off iirc
03:59 <Umbire> though, mithril dags are close 
03:59 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> huh, interesting
03:59 <Umbire> yeah in vanilla poisoned weapons have a weight based chance of wearing off each hit
03:59 <Umbire> but it's always the same in practice since all the poisonable stuff is like
03:59 <Umbire> 1 aum
04:00 <Umbire> dunno if the mechanic's adjusted in evil tho
04:00 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> prolly not
04:00 <Umbire> if not then the next lightest stuff after that would be mithril daggers I think
04:01 <Umbire> 4 aum per
04:01 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> i wish tainting/poisoning weapons was less rng-reliant and irritating
04:01 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> it's a wishy-washy mechanic to me
04:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] HungryMotu (Mon Cen Mal Cha) refused to give up The Eyes of the Overworld to Master Po, on T:28411 (8:17:28)
04:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] HungryMotu (Mon Cen Mal Cha) killed Master Po, on T:28412 (8:18:08)
06:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:46648 (18:53:45)
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07:59 <krm26> ok mobileuser, of course i dont remember. what do i do with the amulet in the sanctum? chat with the guy? invoke it on the altar? do a little dance?
08:00 <mobileuser> offer the amulet on the altar, that will imbue the Idol
08:00 <mobileuser> then chat to the priest
08:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) imbued the Idol of Moloch, on T:73098 (1 day, 17:21:20)
08:01 <mobileuser> and from now on, you will need less spell power to cast
08:01 <krm26> danke
08:01 <mobileuser> heheh
08:02 <mobileuser> mobileuser memory bank
08:02 <krm26> why cant lucifer be peaceful :-(
08:02 <krm26> he's gonna smoke me and my stupid smoky full healing
08:04 <mobileuser> well you did promise us you were going to die to a smoky full healing
08:04 <krm26> vulnerable to fire too thanks to something or other
08:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Lucifer, on T:73128 (1 day, 17:26:48)
08:06 <mobileuser> eazy
08:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) entered Purgatory, on T:73144 (1 day, 17:29:22)
08:13 <krm26> i did it again
08:13 <krm26> i somehow didnt notice my amulet going poof
08:13 <krm26> ah well
08:14 <krm26> thought i had stop messages for that
08:14 <krm26> oh
08:14 <krm26> wait
08:14 <krm26> no more amulet right? just the idol?
08:14 <krm26> man im zoned
08:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Saint Michael, on T:73304 (1 day, 17:40:54)
08:22 <mobileuser> yup, you sacced the amulet
08:23 <mobileuser> I hope you didn't forget to chat to the priest :-)
08:24 <krm26> heh
08:24 <krm26> i did have to eat some disintegration beams on my first infidel ascension
08:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Dru Hum Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Silvanus, on T:42599 (17:03:52)
08:25 <mobileuser> ooh nice
08:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful wolverine, on T:12 (0:00:12)
08:38 <krm26> doh. i feel the urge to perform a sacrifice, in the middle of the ascension run
08:38 <krm26> i guess it doesnt really matter?
08:38 <mobileuser> not hugely important
08:38 <krm26> gotta go 10 levels out of my way to do it
08:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:15 (0:00:12)
08:39 <mobileuser> just keep killing stuff for current alignment
08:39 <krm26> argh i think my ocd is gonna make me go sacrifice
08:40 <mobileuser> heh
08:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 186 points, T:487, killed by Mr. Adjama; the shopkeeper, while sleeping
08:41 <mobileuser> oh you are at quest home already
08:41 <krm26> im on dl2, nearest altar is mines
08:41 <mobileuser> oh I see, my screen froze
08:42 <mobileuser> \o/
08:43 <krm26> hah last minute beheading
08:43 <mobileuser> ?
08:43 <mobileuser> ah vorpal
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08:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) entered the Planes, on T:74088 (1 day, 18:05:00)
08:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:74124 (1 day, 18:06:50)
08:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:74124 (1 day, 18:06:56)
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08:54 <mobileuser> going afk, good luck krm26!
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08:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Pestilence, on T:74398 (1 day, 18:16:09)
08:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the White Horse, on T:74400 (1 day, 18:16:11)
08:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the tortle high priestess of Silvanus, on T:74441 (1 day, 18:17:32)
08:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) put Death down for a little nap, on T:74480 (1 day, 18:19:01)
08:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:74481 (1 day, 18:19:04)
09:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una), 6810034 points, T:74522, ascended (with the Idol)
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1742759843.evil.html
10:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 821 points, T:1232, killed by a gnome lady
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10:42 <mobileuser> congrats krm26!
10:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:8690 (1:47:34)
10:52 <tinklebear> woot, krm26
10:54 <tinklebear> and congratulations to bouquet too
11:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:3749 (0:26:42)
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11:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4170 (0:29:53)
11:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 3942 points, T:7063, killed by a jumping spider
11:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 6974 points, T:9453, killed by a rothe
11:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1767 (0:09:08)
11:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) had a mithril dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:3080 (0:22:00)
11:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "sdflkj", on T:3279 (0:26:23)
11:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Snuffburger (Dru Hob Mal Neu), 1717 points, T:2496, quit
11:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5042 (0:48:03)
11:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Lolth, on T:5051 (0:48:19)
11:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:5058 (0:50:12)
12:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful Green-elf, on T:5 (0:00:07)
12:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pyrolisk, on T:9 (0:00:09)
12:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful gray ooze, on T:13 (0:00:12)
12:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful chickatrice, on T:11 (0:00:09)
12:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1939 (0:09:56)
12:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1256 points, T:4388, killed by a large spider
12:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 6937 points, T:3323, killed by a piranha
12:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Snuffburger (Inf Dro Fem Una), 299 points, T:817, killed by a hobbit
12:48 <K2> congrats bouquet and krm26 \o/
12:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6851 (1:40:12)
12:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:7253 (1:45:00)
13:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 8132 points, T:4596, killed by a human priest of Chih Sung-tzu, while paralyzed by a monster
13:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Ran Dro Fem Cha), 3645 points, T:2057, killed by a bolt of fire
13:12 <tinklebear> !lastgame Loggers
13:12 <Hecubus> tinklebear: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1743316022.evil.html
13:18 <tinklebear> I bet bow range is significantly greater than ray-wand range
13:24 * tinklebear also notices the typical post-DYWYPI irony: "u - an uncursed ring of fire resistance"
13:25 <tinklebear> !whereis Loggers
13:25 <Hecubus> tinklebear: Loggers is not playing.
13:26 <tinklebear> IMO, vanilla should adopt the evil buff to ammo-launcher range
13:26 <tinklebear> it makes no sense that you can huck a dagger the same distance an archer can shoot an arrow
13:28 <tinklebear> (I'm assuming that bow-range is buffed, like crossbow range is. I've only used crossbows in evil)
13:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) had an exceptional dark elven dagger entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:10621 (2:20:13)
13:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Ran Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1638 (0:06:07)
13:35 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> tinklebear: that death was basically me suiciding, the wand was already there from another guy and i totally coulda confiscated it
13:35 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> just an offensively boring minetown
13:37 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> hey, fun trick: if you want to kill a peaceful monster, don't just attack and kill it - that will 'seriously' abuse your alignment. instead, you can set a trap and wait for the monster to walk into it, which will anger them. killing them this way only 'slightly' abuses your alignment
13:37 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> you could also use a pet but i don't use pets
13:39 <tinklebear> heh, gotcha, @Loggers
13:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Ran Dro Fem Cha) made her first wish - "cursed -3 werebane", on T:1747 (0:08:27)
13:40 <tinklebear> interesting method for minimising alignment abuse 
13:41 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> i was sitting on a throne and thought "gimme wish" and it did!
13:41 <tinklebear> hah, awesome
13:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2069 (0:11:49)
14:02 <krm26> cursed -3 werebane?
14:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Sam Gia Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 14 arrows on an altar, on T:3151 (0:22:35)
14:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:541 (0:02:14)
14:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Gno Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3371 (0:37:55)
14:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1244 (0:06:09)
14:11 <krm26> the shaman in the room with the goblin King dropped sting and i used it to kill him
14:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Gno Fem Neu), 3501 points, T:4454, killed by a giant leech
14:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a silver square amulet on an altar, on T:3692 (0:20:41)
14:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Sam Gia Mal Law) became literate by engraving "sdflkj", on T:3878 (0:29:17)
14:33 <krm26> yay, died with a magic lamp and stethoscope and bums-rushed my own bones
14:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Snuffburger (Inf Dro Fem Una), 1290 points, T:830, killed by a gnome lady
14:57 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> krm26: the plan is to get crowned and make shadowblade early
14:57 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> but i have no respect for werebane so it can be cursed and negatively enchanted
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15:02 <Arch> does wiki need updated or was 'change metal to wood' spell changed from targeting wielded "weapon"?
15:02 <Hecubus> Arch: Message from K2 at 2025-03-27 07:50 EDT: thanks for the crash report
15:02 <Arch> just cast it wielding gauntlets of power and it prompted for a direction
15:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] LordL (Bar Dwa Mal Neu), 878 points, T:2124, killed by a bolt of fire
15:03 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> arch: it was always directional, i think
15:04 <tinklebear> the wiki's description sounds like a recipe for tears, somewhere down the line
15:05 <tinklebear> the "either wield OR choose a direction" part
15:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Sam Gia Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8118 (1:02:51)
15:05 <Arch> Wiki needs updated."The caster either wields what they want to change, or they can target objects on the floor, or even other monsters."
15:06 <Arch> yeah, someone accidentally targeting at themselves. yowza.
15:06 <Arch> good thing it does not work on rings, etc. yet.
15:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] LordL (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:347 (0:02:42)
15:11 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> arch: the wiki is not wrong, it's just a little misleading. it's saying that what you're wielding will be changed if you zap at yourself
15:11 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> it won't target everything in your inventory
15:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:5601 (0:32:10)
15:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] LordL (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1073 (0:10:54)
15:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Sam Gia Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:9622 (1:18:27)
15:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] LordL (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1588 points, T:1746, killed by a magic missile
15:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7094 (0:44:54)
15:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Sam Gia Mal Law) had a scimitar entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:11519 (1:25:26)
15:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Gno Fem Neu) destroyed krm26's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:3315 (1:05:06)
15:43 <tinklebear> but what if I'm an iron golem and want to become a wood golem?
15:44 * tinklebear is not actually an iron golem, is engaging in thought experiment
15:46 <tinklebear> ...because I'm surrounded by rust monsters (I guess?)
15:46 <krm26> sadly it doesnt let you zap an iron wand and make it an oak wand of wishing either
15:47 <tinklebear> unplayable
15:47 <tinklebear> although it could troll you and make a balsa wand instead
15:54 <K2> rings/wands, their material is set at the beginning of each game. those dont change
15:54 <K2> you'd create a whole set of problems if they could (or did)
16:05 <Arch> yeah, wiki is misleading due to how remove curse works. reading the wiki made me think the mechanics were the same as remove curse.  Perhaps wiki should state "The caster either wields a weapon they want to change or ... "
16:05 <Arch> but is not a big deal if it does not target a random item in the inventory.
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16:06 <Arch> although most spellcasters do not want metal items and there qare probably no hand-to-hand/martial roles that could even cast it.
16:06 <Umbire> oi
16:07 <K2> sure they could. wield staff of evocation, drop objects on the floor you want to change, cast at it
16:07 <K2> there's always a way
16:09 <Arch> yeah, added robe would get it down to completely manageable
16:09 <Arch> I forget about the staves
16:09 <Arch> tend not to lug them around due to weight.
16:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] LordL (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 1439 points, T:1126, killed by a rabid dog
16:11 <Umbire> hi K2
16:13 <K2> hi
16:13 <Hecubus> Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack
16:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:20014 (2:13:43)
16:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3070 (0:19:50)
16:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1437 points, T:3087, killed by a giant mosquito
16:28 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> because change metal to wood is a utility spell, anyone can use it if they can get the fail rate below 100%
16:28 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> it just depends on your patience
16:37 <Arch> sure, I can just do it and find out, but I'd rather not.   oprop and enchantments always carry overt to item made wood?
16:37 <Arch> got a +3 rustproof aklys of venom
16:37 <Arch> druid would benefit
16:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 36464 points, T:11514, killed by an air elemental
16:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Snuffburger (Inf Dro Fem Una), 930 points, T:1406, killed by an acidic glob
16:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Sam Gia Mal Law) had a long sword entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:27544 (2:50:15)
17:02 <tinklebear> if oprops and enchantments did not survive a weapon's transform from metal to wood, that would be so janky I'm almost insulted on K2's behalf
17:03 <tinklebear> *almost*
17:03 <Arch> I agree, but to assume in NetHack, in any way, can be fatal.
17:03 <K2> there's nothing in the spell that blanks out enchantments or other things
17:03 <Arch> this is not a fatality situation, for sure
17:03 <Arch> does rustproof become fireproof?
17:04 <K2> good question. it should (fooproofing isnt changed either)
17:04 <K2> JUST the material
17:04 <Arch> did not think it would be
17:04 <Arch> nice
17:04 <Arch> cuz for my druid a wood aklys woood be better
17:05 <tinklebear> wouldn't it!
17:05 <K2> enchantment and oprops carry over
17:05 <Arch> does wood bonus extend to thowing damage or just bashing?
17:05 <Arch> (with aklys)
17:06 <K2> so does fooproofing
17:06 <K2> and BUC
17:06 <K2> all confirmed
17:06 <tinklebear> jank-free!
17:06 <Arch> thanks!
17:06 <K2> just melee
17:06 <Arch> and why are all of them wearing thongs anyway?
17:06 <tinklebear> :p
17:06 <Arch> seems like a lot of work to go through and put all those thongs on!
17:06 <Umbire> erosion-proofing is boolean p. sure
17:07 <Umbire> the only difference here is the word used for a material of object
17:07 <Arch> yeah, even polymoprhing carries over.
17:07 <Arch> just wanted to be certain
17:11 <Arch> not even wirlding a weapon works for changing metal to wood.
17:11 <Arch> wielding aklys still asks for direction.
17:11 <Arch> so, I point it towards myself it makes my weapon wood?
17:12 <Arch> and will not do anything to worn armor?
17:14 <tinklebear> I have absolutely no experience, but that is my understanding of what Loggers said, Arch
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17:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Sam Gia Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:32939 (3:26:01)
17:35 <Arch> Yeah, Loggers does state it rather explicitly, doesn't he?  :")
17:40 <K2> yes, select yourself
17:40 <K2> wield it, cast spell, direction is you (use .)
17:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:34665 (3:41:11)
17:55 <tinklebear> I wonder how many turns I'll need to wait for this shopkeeper to move out of the doorway so I can leave his shop, as he encouraged me to do
17:55 <tinklebear> I am not invisible or displaced
17:56 <tinklebear> the door is to the shopkeeper's east, and there is a sleeping mimic to his northwest
17:57 <tinklebear> oh, nevermind. I was carrying unpaid goods
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18:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] ohayoSioh (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2361 (0:12:36)
18:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] ohayoSioh (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 849 points, T:2378, killed by a piranha
18:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Sam Gia Mal Law), 144333 points, T:37843, killed by Ashikaga Takauji
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18:30 <Arch> although, I've noticed tinklebear with the newer versions of NetHack, 3.6.x and up, I've noticed shopkeepers not getting out of the way and staying in the doorway for extended periods of time.
18:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Silvanus, on T:50365 (21:26:12)
18:46 <tinklebear> yeah, that's what I thought was going on, Arch
18:47 <tinklebear> but no. user error!
18:47 <tinklebear> now I'm wondering how I can tell the mimic mimicking something in the shop is a mimic
18:48 <Arch> and I notice user error: I repeated "I've noticed"
18:48 <Arch> ha
18:48 <tinklebear> :D
18:49 <Arch> and use His gift wisely? By putting it in my fancy schmancy, magic chest . . .?
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18:50 <tinklebear> frost brand sounds pretty sweet. do you get short sword unrestricted now?
18:50 <Arch> yeah
18:51 <Arch> but with this build I wanted to exclusively do staves only for melee
18:51 <tinklebear> gotcha
18:51 <Arch> and only wildlife brethren for pets
18:51 <Arch> so not even useful for pet
18:51 <tinklebear> well, pets are for more than combat
18:52 <tinklebear> lots of things to do besides fight
18:53 <tinklebear> not sure what a grizzly bear or whatever *is* good for, but I'm sure you'll find something
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18:54 <tinklebear> I ended up with a cave lizard pet once, that I couldn't saddle or anything (I wasn't a drow)
18:54 <tinklebear> and I was like, "aw man, this thing sucks"
18:54 <tinklebear> i didn't even have a magic whistle at the time
18:54 <tinklebear> ...but I dragged it around anyways
18:55 <tinklebear> and it grew up into a large cave and turned out to be super tough
18:55 <tinklebear> *large cave lizard
18:56 <K2> \o/
18:56 <tinklebear> like, it finally did die somewhere in gehennom, but it kicked some ass
18:56 <Arch> it really is odd that a druid cannot commune (commute?) with nature by riding _any_ of them
18:57 <Arch> yeah, when they grow up into a large cave lizard they can be nice pets
18:57 <Arch> especially with them able climb on walls and ceilings.
18:57 <tinklebear> heh, yeah
19:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2593 (1:20:57)
20:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Dro Mal Cha) destroyed LordL's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:5829 (2:20:08)
20:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Dro Mal Cha) destroyed LordL's ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:5859 (2:20:46)
20:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Dro Mal Cha) destroyed Snuffburger's ghost, the former Heathen, on T:5869 (2:20:55)
20:05 <tinklebear> silver mace ftw!
20:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 7208 points, T:6040, killed by a bolt of fire
21:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Baba Yaga, on T:53973 (23:44:39)
21:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:53977 (23:44:45)
21:17 <Arch> pets for the win!
21:17 <Arch> no boulder shenanigans
21:18 <Arch> dire wolves can be vicious and are on par with Titans, but cannot cast spells.
21:18 <Arch> heck, even the bearz and sabre were getting in on the action
21:19 <Arch> they were all "yer going down, corruptor!"
21:19 <Arch> ^dire wolverines
21:20 <Arch> ought to be dire wolves. :)
21:20 <Arch> higher level, resist cold and have b-i-g bite.
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22:01 <bouquet> thanks! (hella backscroll)
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22:08 <krm26> yeah, grats bouquet :-)
22:16 <bouquet> knight is super OP. You can disable any of the horrible spellcasters by jousting them repeatedly, even Rodney.
22:17 <bouquet> not sure if any other classes have that ability, but it's devastating
22:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law), 928 points, T:1633, killed by a bolt of lightning
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22:30 <Arch> sort of buggy: tree blight fell into a pit. killed tree blight in pit. displays '^'.   Figured, OK, wasn't there a commit about tree-leaving monsters not leaving "corpses" in hallways and on traps?
22:31 <Arch> zapped magic missile spell and it bounced back at me and hit a pet . thought for damn sure it'd abuse my alignment (it did not, for some reason?)
22:31 <Arch> there is a dead tree in the pit.
22:32 <Arch> kicked the tree down, there is still a pit.
22:47 <K2> if the zap had killed your pet, yeah super bad. just hitting without killing, that doesnt abuse alignment
22:47 <K2> there's a guard against a dead tree 'corpse' forming on certain tiles, but not traps
22:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu) completed his quest without incident, on T:55123 (1 day, 0:10:12)
22:54 <Arch> oh, I equated hitting with spell the same as 'F'ing with a healing potion or hitting them otherwise
22:54 <K2> understandable
22:54 <Arch> so, is it a "bug" to not display '#' and show "^" instead
22:54 <Arch> ?
22:55 <K2> i suppose
22:55 <Arch> so, it was just portals and did not extend to traps (the commit)
22:55 <Arch> good to know
22:55 <K2> having a dead monster leave a terrain feature as a corpse is new
22:55 <K2> so bound to be some odd behavior i havent accounted for
22:56 <Arch> yep. and just reporting findings.
22:56 <K2> good
23:02 <rld> <@Loggers_VIII> if you die in ent form, do you leave a tree?
23:02 <K2> heh
23:04 <Arch> yeah, and ALL of the inventory has to be kicked out!
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23:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1073 points, T:1516, killed by an arrow
23:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 475 points, T:553, killed by a goblin shaman
23:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] ohayoSioh (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1426 points, T:1497, diseased by a hobbit zombie