00:01 [hdf-au] [evil] HungryMotu (Mon Cen Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:21932 (4:56:07) 00:12 [hdf-au] [evil] HungryMotu (Mon Cen Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "blessed fixed +2 dragonbane", on T:22049 (5:07:32) 00:16 [hdf-au] [evil] HungryMotu (Mon Cen Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide robe", on T:22052 (5:11:28) 02:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:510 (0:02:54) 02:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 412 points, T:1098, killed by a little dog 02:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:741 (0:04:51) 02:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Stripling, on T:867 (0:05:37) 02:13 -!- Loveaabb has joined #evilhack 02:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 2129 points, T:3382, killed by a rabid dog 02:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:676 (0:02:50) 02:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 56 points, T:687, killed by a Green-elf 02:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:84 (0:00:28) 02:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 11 points, T:86, killed by an elven arrow 02:59 -!- malor_ has joined #evilhack 02:59 -!- malor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1190 (0:10:23) 03:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 227 points, T:1196, killed by a Grey-elf 03:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:839 (0:06:54) 03:38 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4638 (0:35:55) 03:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:5198 (0:42:26) 03:49 [hdf-au] [evil] HungryMotu (Mon Cen Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:22303 (5:26:00) 03:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5829 (0:54:26) 04:05 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00 -!- Loveaabb has joined #evilhack 05:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:8097 (1:17:11) 05:16 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 12858 points, T:8550, suffocated by a creeping mound 05:59 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:59 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 06:11 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:45 create grass :-( 07:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:532 (0:02:20) 07:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2380 (0:13:58) 07:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3266 (0:21:19) 07:40 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 49467 points, T:13189, quit 07:45 aphrodite and nine satyrs :-P 07:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Cen Fem Una) killed Aphrodite, on T:22624 (13:49:08) 07:52 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2642 (0:11:43) 07:53 13 fountains to play with, gonna curse my ass off 07:57 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 5 mithril darts on an altar, on T:3410 (0:16:43) 08:07 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 08:13 * tinklebear now knows that "create grass [sad face]" is how mobileuser indicates they have begun a new game 08:13 :-) 08:13 good morning! 08:14 and good afternoon! 08:14 \o/ 08:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:8008 (0:55:03) 08:26 man confused pet dragons are the wors 08:26 t 08:26 any other pets? 08:27 not any more :-) 08:27 D: 08:27 separating the confused pet from the others is a problem 08:29 I've tried throwing lizard corpses at dragons when confused, but I can't remember if it has ever worked 08:29 *when they were confused 08:30 ? lizards cure confusion? i never knew that 08:30 I don't even know! 08:30 they do cure stunning 08:30 well, they shorten the timeout 08:31 and monsters will eat them to do that 08:31 heh 08:31 hostile ones 08:31 create grass / it's a blast / if you don't like / kiss mah ass! 08:32 lol 08:32 * K2 starts dancing 08:33 uh oh 08:34 this shambling horror casts cause wounds and whacked my dragon 08:38 jebus he's a -30ac hill giant shaman 08:40 new bestie 08:41 cant kill him, gonna have to dip down and drain life twice then wander away and recharge my mana, repeat like 10 times and then i'll know whether or not he's also vorpal 08:44 !whereis krm26 08:44 tinklebear: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil]: (Inf Cen Fem Una) T:23997 The Gnomish Mines level: 6 (with Amulet) 08:44 returned to my only altar 08:45 infidel survival is a closed book to me 08:45 drain life sounds good, though 08:46 coincidentally it is the only attack spell i have 08:46 heh. that would solve my problem of usually forgetting I have it 08:46 my attack options are: poke with knife, throw +0 daggers, drain life up to THREE times, or use my pet dragon who is now dead 08:46 paladin is gonna run in fear 08:47 lol 08:47 and i dont really wanna crown because free action is silver 08:47 do you carry around a ginormous stack of those useless daggers? 08:47 like the NPC rogues? 08:48 it usually hovers around 15, which is about enough to maybe kill a 2-warning monster, and piss off a 3-warning monster 08:48 omg, you do? 08:48 lolol 08:48 the more useless the daggers, the more ginormous the stack! 08:48 never fails! 08:50 of course none of them will hit a -30ac horror 08:50 true 08:50 OTOH, since they aren't enchanted, no harm casting drain life over them either 08:51 silver linings 08:52 what do you use enchant weapon on? 08:52 enchant weapon? 08:52 um, nothing 08:53 illiterate on purpose? 08:53 nope, just no enchant weapon 08:53 after 23k turns??? 08:53 cursed! 08:53 i did get +2 cursed crystal plate as my second sacrifice gift 08:54 ..third, i guess, after a spellbook of see invis 08:54 hrm 08:54 pretty sure I didn't know there even was a spellbook of see invisible 08:55 detect unseen 08:55 oh 08:55 brain just lazy 08:55 nah 08:55 fine description 08:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) murdered Miisu, her faithful large cat, on T:10893 (1:34:24) 09:01 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha), 716 points, T:1597, killed by a bugbear 09:01 I don't dislike create grass, but for early game survival barkskin is what you want 09:02 and if you don't like that, (etc) 09:02 kiss mah ass! 09:02 lol 09:02 :P 09:02 * K2 starts dancing again 09:03 arse! 09:03 FRICKIN' HUGE 09:04 you lie krm26 you have the mighty secespita 09:04 heh 09:05 unless "poke with knife" was your derogatory description of this fine weapon ;-) 09:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 15478 points, T:12141, killed by a bolt of cold 09:10 secespita aint bad actually. i had plussed it up at some point 09:30 yes, it's a pretty good early game weapon 09:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 339 points, T:1098, killed by a kobold 09:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:962 (0:04:56) 09:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1168 (0:06:33) 09:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2869 points, T:2554, killed by a bugbear, while sleeping 10:47 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2481 (0:32:32) 10:47 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a dwarvish spear entrusted to him by Kos, on T:2489 (0:32:47) 10:52 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:2639 (0:38:05) 10:56 <@Loggers_VIII> secespita in the original infidel patch is hilariously terrible 10:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Dru Hum Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "test", on T:3808 (1:44:36) 11:01 Bobo grows up into a giant hawk, I zapped Bobo with speed, so of course Bobo now dies of zombie illness 11:01 this games hates pets 11:04 [hdf-us] [evil] TipsyDruid (Dru Hum Fem Neu), 4362 points, T:5268, killed by a dark elven watchman 11:12 <@Loggers_VIII> if you throw a eucalyptus leaf at a sick pet, do they eat it! 11:12 <@Loggers_VIII> *? 11:12 <@Cerebot> ``` 11:12 <@Cerebot> Usage: @? 11:12 <@Cerebot> ``` 11:12 yes 11:14 and yes, I totally forgot about my starting eucalyptus leaf :-) 11:15 thanks for reminding me in case a zombie eats my brains 11:15 <@Loggers_VIII> no problem :p 11:17 <@Loggers_VIII> YANI: ‘scroll of nature’, a scroll that creates grass, trees and shallow water in a radius around the player (larger radius when blessed) and summons blights when cursed 11:18 <@Loggers_VIII> then give Druids one or two to start with so if they don’t start with create grass they can still make use of grass strategically 11:19 -!- rebatelo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:19 <@Loggers_VIII> I added the shallow water because I feel like it should do SOMETHING that isn’t replicable by just create grass/create trees, but maybe there’s a cooler thing to do with it idk 11:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 396 points, T:1202, killed by the Goblin King 11:27 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2107 points, T:3009, killed by a soldier ant 11:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 454 points, T:1019, killed by a steel crossbow bolt 11:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 619 points, T:1141, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted bugbear 11:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 45 points, T:85, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted grid bug, while frozen by a potion 11:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4815 (2:09:04) 11:42 Bobo :( 11:43 F for respect 11:46 thank you 11:47 with all those constantly resurrecting drow zombies it's unlikely 1 eucalyptus leaf would have been enough 11:49 -!- tinklebear has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:53 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 11:53 -!- tinklebear has left #evilhack 11:56 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1365 points, T:2468, killed by a stag, while praying 12:01 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:06 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 12:08 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha), 487 points, T:1933, killed by a bear trap 12:14 scroll of nature: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HIZe8Gq8OU&t=40s 12:21 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2330 (0:13:05) 12:28 -!- rebatelo has joined #evilhack 12:29 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Cen Fem Una) had a war hammer entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:24571 (15:18:04) 12:30 wtf moloch 12:30 that cant possibly do as much damage as the damn knife you force on me 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Cen Fem Una) had a bone dagger entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:24625 (15:20:09) 12:32 it is like you dont even know me 12:32 if that was a stack of 7 daggers so i could throw them then i'd invite you in after dinner 12:33 he wants you to make a bec de corbin with it 12:34 so it can still do less damage than your knife 12:34 helpfully, he didn't rustproof it for you 12:35 (so I assume) 12:35 cursed rustproof +2 war hammer 12:35 and the bone dagger is telepathy :-P 12:35 :( 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5713 (1:51:42) 12:36 ah well, the dagger is nice? 12:36 no? daggers only worthwhile in a stack, even then, barely do anything 12:36 but i might actually carry a stack 12:36 I love when people drop everything when they know they are going to die... I try to do that (thank you dbanethacker) 12:37 extrinsic telepathy? 12:37 not valued? 12:37 nah, already get infidel warning 12:37 okay 12:37 i mean, early game, any of that crap is fine 12:38 it is just, as a primary spellcaster, the number of crappy daggers and hammers im gonna get is gonna be pretty funny 12:40 would kill for a spellbook of magic missile or healing 12:40 i think im gonna have to kill paladin through dragon engulfment 12:41 wait -- does paladin NOT resist sleep? woulda sworn she did 12:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4173 (0:59:13) 12:45 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 308 points, T:431, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted dwarf lady 12:45 @?paladin 12:45 No such monster. 12:45 @e?paladin 12:45 Paladin (@) | Lvl: 24 | Diff: 29 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 4d4 weapon physical, 2d6 weapon stun, 1d8 cast clerical, 1d6 claw amulet steal | Align: 20 | omnivore, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis 12:46 @e?ixoth 12:46 Ixoth (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison petrification | Confer: fire | MR: 20 | Gen: unique | AC: -1 | Atk: 8d6 breath fire, 4d8 bite physical, 0d0 cast spell, 4d4 claw physical, 4d4 claw amulet steal | Align: -14 | carnivore, flies, thick hide, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis 12:46 @e?neferet the green 12:46 Neferet the Green (@) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 23 | Spd: 15 | Res: sleep poison petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 1d6 weapon physical, 2d8 cast spell, 2d8 cast spell | Align: 0 | omnivore, nopoly, infravis 12:47 @e?nalzok 12:47 Nalzok (&) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 23 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison petrification drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 85 | Gen: unique | AC: -2 | Atk: 8d4 weapon physical, 4d6 weapon physical, 0d0 cast spell, 2d6 claw amulet steal | Align: -128 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis, demon 12:47 @e?master of thieves 12:47 Master of Thieves (@) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 24 | Spd: 15 | Res: sleep poison petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 4d10 weapon physical, 2d6 weapon physical, 2d4 claw amulet steal | Align: -20 | omnivore, nopoly, infravis 12:47 so my horrors this game are clerical, decay, confuse, pit :-( wont be a big deal for ascension but very unpleasant in the midgame 12:48 (paladin has the highest level of any quest boss afaik) 12:48 interesting. a leveled up dragon could do it? 12:49 also, pit is very annoying attack 12:50 yeah, you can get shadow dragons to what 28/29 ez, and any dragon you can get up into the 40s with wraiths 12:50 sure. but pre-quest I'd probably not count on those 12:50 speaking from the roles I know (of which infidel is not one) 12:51 just got a shadow dragon to replace my green dragon the U killed 12:51 holy s. nice 12:51 one fortune cookie, 1 cat, 1 magic whistle, and patience 12:51 \o/ 12:51 they are a little irritating since im not drow but it is worth putting up with 12:52 fun :D 12:53 wuttttt 12:54 dipped a corroded aklys into a forge to try to repair and, and it came back blessed? i didnt know that was a thing 12:54 hmm. am i having a senior moment? looks like forges dont repair corroded metal gear, they just bless it? 12:55 i must be just having interesting rng 12:57 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 148 points, T:534, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted goblin 12:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:5137 (1:14:45) 13:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 9784 points, T:5417, killed by a bolt of lightning 13:03 nice bones for someone 13:03 !lastgame 13:03 rebatelo: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tinklebear/evilhack/dumplog/1742921602.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatelo/evilhack/dumplog/1742397243.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/p/post163/evilhack/dumplog/1742755793.evil.html 13:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (creeping mounds), on T:1648 (0:43:32) 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 543 points, T:1831, killed by a goblin, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:14 <@Loggers_VIII> krm26: forges do repair corroded metal gear. once you have 6+ luck, there is also a small chance they bless metallic items 13:16 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1008 (0:18:39) 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:11942 (2:33:06) 13:24 it squeaks, it kicks, and it's hostile to chaotic 13:24 clearly, it is a kangaroo rat 13:24 (also skitting. I guess deer squeak) 13:24 *skittish 13:27 k2: when infidels have 6+ luck, forges should have a small chance to curse metallic items instead of blessing them 13:27 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:27 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 13:36 * tinklebear has never heard a deer vocalise anything ever 13:46 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 68193 points, T:16021, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha) destroyed Koeranen's ghost, the former Brute, on T:5890 (1:00:17) 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha), 8132 points, T:6434, killed by a piranha 14:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4092 (0:40:55) 14:19 tinklebear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jua-e206Bs 14:22 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Dro Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a leather golem, on T:3590 (1:24:49) 14:33 tinklebear this is you now when you walk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsWWWnCEgRA&t=99s 14:58 heh 14:59 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:6909 (1:36:50) 15:00 not convinced the sound in *all* those clips is genuine, but I stand corrected 15:01 the fawns are cute 15:09 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3446 (0:18:25) 15:10 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3645 (0:19:08) 15:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:60938 (1 day, 2:32:05) 15:17 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:5056 (0:26:57) 15:18 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) destroyed splungetoo's ghost, the former Bachelor, on T:5172 (0:27:58) 15:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 343 points, T:524, killed by a crossbow bolt 15:48 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Cen Fem Una) killed the Paladin of Mielikki, on T:27667 (16:52:25) 16:01 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Cen Fem Una) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27668 (16:52:36) 16:01 omigod that was close. lost the amulet tho :-( 16:04 ? 16:04 in lava or something? 16:04 no, paladin yoinked it and then of course teleported somewhere random when i killed her 16:04 oooh 16:04 she paralyzed and stunned my shadow dragon so my whole strategy fell to pieces 16:05 uncooperative! 16:05 chewed through two boulder forts also 16:05 wow 16:06 do the forts give you a turn or two? 16:06 i lucked out and my smoky full healing actually healed me, and also the dragon had already done half her hit points...potions of paralysis and the pokey knife for the win 16:06 sometimes, in this case, i got 0 turns out of em 16:06 lol 16:07 found it! phew 16:07 cool 16:08 @e?paladin 16:08 Paladin (@) | Lvl: 24 | Diff: 29 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 4d4 weapon physical, 2d6 weapon stun, 1d8 cast clerical, 1d6 claw amulet steal | Align: 20 | omnivore, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis 16:08 clerical, frightening 16:08 paralyze is bad 16:09 ...among others 16:09 paladin is i think the toughest upper dungeon fight 16:09 unless you like bootstrap graz'zt off a water demon on dl1 16:10 heh 16:10 (not quite speaking from experience. i HAVE done that on dl5 tho) 16:13 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 11486 points, T:8978, killed by a freezing sphere's explosion 16:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Cen Fem Una) completed her quest without incident, on T:28054 (17:17:17) 16:28 now to trade free action for flying :-P 16:31 how does that work? 16:31 get crowned as infidel when free action is silver 16:33 dammit, i forgot about the barding forging change, where you can make unforgeable barding by adding the saddle last :-( 16:34 does that craft leather barding or something? 16:34 yup 16:35 dude k2 wut! just crafted gold polished shield + iron barding and got GOLD polished barding :-( 16:35 it's very pretty. why aren't you happy 16:36 h e a v y 16:36 second component was iron? 16:37 yup 16:37 unexpected 16:39 hrm. iron might not a reflective option? 16:39 so it went with the preciousss 16:39 metal 16:40 it's that bug bouquet found before 16:40 while trying to make lances iirc? 16:40 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 16:40 or at least I think it might be related to that 16:40 ab mobileuser 16:40 yeah seems like a similar bug 16:41 you should be able to find dragonhide saddles and thus craft dragonhide barding 16:41 I've never seen an iron shield of reflection, or an iron amulet, period 16:41 I think that means something 16:41 default barding of reflection is silver, but it has always just made the default previously if the second choice was unremarkable 16:41 have you ever made iron barding of reflection, krm26? 16:42 ab Umbire 16:42 oh, you were expecting silver 16:42 I mean it could also be a material thing like bear's talking about 16:43 also if the second material is invalid it goes to the first one, p. sure? 16:43 before going to default 16:43 a bug to do with forgetting to include iron somewhere in the code 16:43 I vaguely remember 16:43 krm26, shields of reflection, unqualified, are silver 16:43 K2 deemed it non-critical I think 16:44 (although I figure you know this, since you play infidel) 16:44 they can be steel but not iron 16:44 yep 16:44 to my limited knowledge 16:48 "it has always just made the default previously if the second [component] was unremarkable" <-- but if the first component was always a plain "shield of reflection" then that is consistent with the current, apparent rule 16:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Mal Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:47145 (13:28:13) 16:49 tinklebear, in the past, it would have been silver: normal or gold shield of reflection + non-gold metal barding -> normal (silver) barding of reflection 16:49 at least, that is my recollection of how it initially worked 16:49 if the 2ndary object was gold, it would be gold 16:49 well, you surely mean "non-shiny" not only non-gold 16:49 right? 16:49 no 16:50 er... 16:50 i expected the resulting barding to be unqualifed, i.e. silver 16:50 if second component were mithril barding, you'd get mithril 16:50 right, because mithril could be shining 16:50 but since iron can't, it would have been default, i.e. silver 16:50 yeah. so you above you didn't mean "+ non-gold" 16:50 because it only cared about the secondary material 16:51 ok fine, i didnt think that was the primary thrust of what we are talking about 16:51 "[...]combinations that would result in a material that is not possible for the crafted item (e.g., copper for a dwarvish weapon) use the first item's material instead." 16:51 ^ that 16:52 so you were always gonna get a gold shield of reflection 16:52 or barding of reflection rather 17:01 I think the critical cases, that distinguish how krm wanted it to work, from how it currently does, are [shield of reflection of NON-STANDARD material] + iron barding 17:02 i might be incorrect, i just thought that was a change from initial behavior 17:02 that i must have misse 17:02 d 17:02 but it is equally possible i just never noticed i supposed 17:03 would have sworn original implementation was "second material if legal otherwise DEFAULT material" 17:03 no biggie 17:03 sorry about the gold, though. it is inconvenient for sure 17:04 I have never intentionally made iron barding, and most shields of reflection are silver... 17:04 and when I want to control the material, I make sure to craft mithril barding first, since I can't really control what kind of shield of reflection I'll find 17:05 ...so what I'm saying is, for these reasons I've never tried the critical combo that would have distinguished the competing behaviors in question 17:05 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Mal Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:47757 (13:45:37) 17:07 so I cannot confirm, or deny, your recollection 17:10 another lance shattered. Extremely lucky, extra luck, good luck times out slowly. Also just fed a unicorn tons of gems. 17:10 I've never gone through so many lances before. 17:11 you're killing it, bouquet! 17:11 :D 17:11 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7780 (1:53:27) 17:12 I'm just too hard core 17:12 badass 17:12 "puttin down too many watts" as I tell the bike tech every time they ask why my chain is all stretched out. 17:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Silvanus, on T:61313 (1 day, 3:26:34) 17:19 ooh, vorpy! 17:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 586157 points, T:61853, quit 17:37 !lastgame 17:37 K2: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatelo/evilhack/dumplog/1742397243.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arch/evilhack/dumplog/1742610918.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/p/post163/evilhack/dumplog/1742755793.evil.html 17:46 [backscroll] mobileuser this commit - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/c93b95df4e6582e8efae095dcd8a77fc67f93a7e 17:58 bouquet also killed the unicorn by shoving too many gems down its throat 17:58 don't kink shame me 18:02 that unicorn knew what it signed up for when it answered the craigslist add to meet me in Vecna's graveyard. 18:04 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:12160 (2:46:48) 18:09 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:11346 (2:14:40) 18:11 -!- jonadab has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:13 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had a steel dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:12094 (2:19:12) 18:14 -!- jonadab has joined #evilhack 18:15 -!- jonadab has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:16 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had a staff of escape entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:13262 (2:22:01) 18:19 -!- jonadab has joined #evilhack 18:28 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had a magical orange spellbook given to him by Anhur, on T:15498 (2:33:39) 18:32 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Red (Con Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3255 (0:29:26) 18:41 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Red (Con Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3622 (0:32:16) 19:00 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 10503 points, T:8763, killed by an elven arrow of fire 19:03 -!- Tangles has joined #evilhack 19:09 @e? creeping mound 19:09 creeping mound ({) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire cold sleep poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: dungeons | AC: 0 | Atk: 2d4 claw physical, 2d6 engulf wrap | Align: 0 | genocidable, omnivore, breathless, mindless, vegan 19:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Red (Con Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:6280 (1:07:10) 19:27 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:37 -!- bouquet has joined #evilhack 19:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Red (Con Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:9527 (1:39:01) 19:50 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 458 points, T:1352, killed by a jumping spider 19:57 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the invisible Mephistopheles, on T:49725 (14:28:49) 19:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Red (Con Hum Mal Cha), 12258 points, T:10234, killed by a bolt of lightning 20:12 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:3177 (0:22:11) 20:19 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2239 points, T:4070, killed by a baby black dragon 20:20 i still feel like crap, some respiratory bug 20:20 havent felt like coding :( 20:21 !samovar K2 20:22 good excuse to sleep alot 20:22 if you need an excuse for that 20:22 that's the thing, i'm up a lot of the night coughing 20:23 doc gave me some drugs to help with that so we'll see 20:23 it's the 'do not operate heavy machinery' kind 20:24 I imagine that includes nethack servers 20:24 lighthearted joke aside get well soon man 20:27 heh 20:27 thanks 20:27 i wont take it til its time to zzzzz 20:28 i usually dont go see the doc for a cold or flu but this has persisted for almost 2 weeks now BLAH 20:29 makes sense to try the doctor then. it's supposed to be what they're for 20:30 * tinklebear hates going to the doctor THIS MUCH 20:31 yeah 20:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Red (Val Dwa Fem Law), 215 points, T:945, zombified by a diseased gnome corpse 20:35 oh, congratulations btw, on your offspring's awesome athletic competition 20:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:39 thanks! 20:39 and of course today she broke a finger in gym class 20:39 a knuckle by the looks of it 20:39 badass! 20:39 so we'll see how that heals up 20:39 we have 6 weeks before regionals 20:39 also, that sounds like it would really hurt 20:39