01:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:31324 (15:09:18) 01:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Mal Cha) destroyed coplate's ghost, the former Magician, on T:32806 (15:36:55) 01:49 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:17 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 02:20 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:22 -!- buq has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.5.2] 02:57 [hdf-au] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Silvanus, on T:18956 (4:34:15) 03:10 [hdf-au] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu) had a ragged spellbook given to him by Silvanus, on T:19428 (4:46:55) 03:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Hum Mal Neu) had a mithril dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to him by Ishtar, on T:26316 (12:20:10) 05:01 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 05:06 -!- Dingotron2 has joined #evilhack 05:08 -!- dingotron has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:19 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:23 -!- Glasshopper has joined #evilhack 05:27 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:04 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 06:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 9616 points, T:5246, killed by a tree blight 06:15 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:19 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1516 points, T:2146, killed by an orc shaman 06:30 -!- mobileuser has quit [*.net *.split] 06:32 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:32 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 06:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:836 (0:13:25) 06:41 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 13441 points, T:7001, killed by an energy vortex 06:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1344 points, T:1366, killed by a piranha 07:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 9077 points, T:9446, killed by a gnomish watch captain 07:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:301 (0:02:11) 07:17 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 07:20 -!- Glasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 1535 points, T:2276, killed by a pony, while praying 07:28 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 4866 points, T:3989, killed by brainlessness 08:58 ugh i hate rat king 08:59 and he hates you 08:59 and creeping mounds dont improve it 08:59 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:59 what are you playing as this time krm26? 08:59 infidel 08:59 wewp 09:00 i have an initial online interview in 2 hrs 09:00 mobileuser makes fun of me because i only have 3% of his infidel ascensions 09:00 prepping 09:00 cool! good luck 09:00 thanks 09:00 FUN 09:00 yeah woo 09:00 good luck! 09:00 if i pass this i imagine there'll be a follow up in person interview 09:00 i dont wanna get stuck in multiple interview hell 09:30 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4007 (0:20:41) 09:48 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1648 points, T:2533, killed by an orc shaman 09:49 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Sam Gia Mal Law) destroyed DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:5926 (0:40:04) 09:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 518 points, T:533, killed by a mountain dwarf 09:58 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 09:58 I have raid in few hours but the magic lamps are calling xd 09:58 Unreal how rare they are. Izchak pls :( 10:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1042 (0:04:39) 10:13 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2325 points, T:1837, killed by a giant leech 10:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4149 (0:19:47) 10:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 5350 points, T:5367, quit 10:44 -!- rebatelo has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:52 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:01 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 11:08 break a leg, K2 11:11 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 11:47 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:52 o/ 11:53 just finished, went 20 min over scheduled time 11:53 guy said i crushed it 11:53 so i should be called back in for an in person interview 11:53 next week i think 11:56 i'm excited, hope I pass muster 11:57 close to home? 11:57 close enough 11:57 less than an hour commute 11:57 i guess anything is close enough if you like driving your rivian enough 11:57 30-40 min depending on traffic 11:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Cen Mal Una) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Moloch, on T:12550 (5:39:43) 12:01 -!- rebatelo has joined #evilhack 12:05 food time bbl 12:20 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Cen Mal Una) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bronze amulet of magic resistance, on T:13535 (6:00:57) 12:21 mmm 12:33 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3304 (0:14:39) 12:34 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading The Blacksmith's Cookbook, on T:3541 (0:16:16) 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:3726 (0:18:19) 12:37 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consumed animal products (fortune cookie) for the first time, on T:3878 (0:18:39) 12:40 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bone orcish helm on an altar, on T:4370 (0:22:09) 12:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Cen Mal Una) killed the Rat King, on T:14417 (6:27:38) 12:49 doh, wasnt careful enough, going to die to this creeping mound 12:49 cant even tp out or pray, thx infidel 12:50 too bad scroll of earth wont blow out this guy's belly 12:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Cen Mal Una), 57034 points, T:14491, suffocated by a creeping mound, while praying 12:52 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Sam Gia Mal Law), 16204 points, T:7788, petrified by a skeleton 12:56 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 13:08 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:4964 (0:49:41) 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 8827 points, T:5950, killed by a giant ant 13:41 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:59 question. I remember that halucination protects against touch of death. Does that mean it also protects against other death-like type attacks like Orcus' wand or Vecna withering etc? Or is that too optimistic? 14:04 it won't protect against withering, not sure about other types of death attack 14:04 tinklebear would know... 14:17 (y) 14:22 Dang, actually found +5 magicbane in a bones, and Secespita in the dungeon. too bad I'm restricted in quarterstaff! 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:873 (0:03:40) 14:45 doh 14:46 the krm26 effect - find awesome artifacts you don't want to/can't use 14:46 dingotron you could still forge the staff of the archmagi and wield it if you need to cast a difficult spell 14:46 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:46 or give it to a pet 14:46 *humanoid pet 14:47 abcd 14:47 I might. However, I am also dual wielding luck blade and stormy right now, so hazardous work environment for a pet! '=D 14:48 heh 14:48 when did ab evolve into abcd 14:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1493 (0:11:36) 14:50 I found keolewa though (which was pretty handy early game for a convict). so I am thinking of going for harbinger. However, unsure if alkys are as useful now that boulder forts are nerfed in 0.9(?) 14:52 anything you can throw and have it return is useful 14:52 I was disappointed that Keolewa's shock resistance does not extend to inventory, which significant reduces the utility of the club on it's own. (as I learned the hard way, overconfidently walking up to a shocking sphere) 14:52 true 14:52 if you want inventory shock res, wield tempest 14:54 well, someone told us we have work with what we can get under the new limitagtions for altars and forging! 14:54 ab and then abcd reminds me of this old south park bit - https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/wfutt6/south-park-flippity-floppity-floop 14:55 dingotron yup :) 14:56 flippity floppity floop 14:56 '=D 14:58 <@Loggers_VIII> YANI: matter spell, “deconstruction”. it’s used like turn metal to wood, but it turns an object you hit with it into the components of its forging recipe (if applicable) 14:58 K2, it's been used here and there as a sort of extended greating 14:58 flip flop flo 14:58 +o 14:59 also while I don't think item protection from extrinsic resistance is really as easymoding it does make a certain sense to not have it on but so many items 15:00 as easymoding as K2 does* 15:00 I would probably restrict it to artifacts for 15:00 my own purposes 15:00 god I can't type rn 15:00 fl fl fl 15:00 <@Loggers_VIII> I think the only time I want item protection in evilhack is against Lucifer but I kill him just fine without it 15:01 <@Loggers_VIII> maybe if you really hate shocking spheres or something it’s good 15:09 I'm always losing valuable stuff by bumping into shocking spheres in hallways 15:09 all non-freezing spheres emit light so you can at least spot 'em beforehand unless you're playing uberfast 15:10 or else unless you get corner-clowned 15:10 ring of shock protection gives inventory protection right? The other challenge is that it's just confusing as a player to keep track of special rules for extrinsic attributes. 15:11 no its doesnt 15:12 nethack 3.7 added a bunch of extrinsic resistances protect inventory also 15:12 blue dragon scales? 15:12 in 3.7 yeah 15:12 bdsm maybe not the scales by themselves 15:13 bdsm is what I was thinking 15:13 open inventory protection is very limited in evilhack 15:14 either fooproof the items which affords a chance to resist, or wield tempest (shock res) harbinger (acid res or dichotomy (fire/cold res) 15:14 wearing non metallic gloves will protect worn rings 15:14 I like the 3.7 changes (not for them being a buff/nerf) but for simplicity of it and encouraging build diversity. like rings of resistance then still have some potential gameplay relevance and utility even after you have all the intrinsic resistances. 15:14 from shock 15:15 3.7 added easymode :) 15:16 <@Loggers_VIII> 3.7 is the hardest version of vanilla 15:16 <@Loggers_VIII> by a long shot 15:17 Gameplay can always be rebalanced somewhere else for difficulty. I prefer the endgame to have more variety of builds, and for fewer items to suddenly just become junk or poly-fodder by the midgame stage. 15:17 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:18 that's always been a challenge in vanilla. Like crowning and unicorn horns suddenly making a lot of spells or items irrelevant. 15:18 sacrifice rebalances also make crowning harder-ish I think? 15:19 <@Loggers_VIII> yeah, evilhack has okay build variety compared to vanilla but it’s still a bit one-dimensional in some areas 15:19 camping certainly took a hint since you need corpses of specific difficulties for a shot particular gifts 15:19 backscroll - try playing weaponlesss on purpose... the amount of amazing artifacts you will find or get from god is unreal 15:19 evilhack has great build variety 15:19 s/hint/hit 15:19 it's still fun though ! 15:19 <@Loggers_VIII> it’s pretty decent 15:19 I get to SEE the cool weapons at least 15:19 <@Loggers_VIII> re: variety 15:19 and leave them in bones hopefully if i'm carrying and die 15:20 <@Loggers_VIII> I think the most variety in evilhack comes from what weapon you want to use and what scales you use on your armor 15:20 yeah i forgot about that change/options too . very cool 15:21 i DO play other roles when i play locally on my PC 15:21 <@Loggers_VIII> a lot of stuff is pretty narrow though. like everyone’s gonna wear a dragonhide shirt of decay (sometimes telepathy depending on build) 15:22 but i do so well... It would destroy all the records of everything online. SO i just don't do it and only play monk on hdf 15:22 <@Loggers_VIII> dragonhide speed boots etc 15:22 * rebatelo is obviously joking but just in case... j/k 15:22 not tortles 15:23 <@Loggers_VIII> tortles don’t have build variety 15:23 <@Loggers_VIII> you wear a stone helm of speed and dragonhide bracers of 15:23 ok i'll bite.. what is "build variety" ? Sounds liek a workshop you guys attended 15:24 <@Loggers_VIII> it’s like how varied characters are with reference to the gear they use and shit 15:24 <@Loggers_VIII> e.g. vanilla has bad build variety because everyone has largely the same ascension kit with maybe one or two variables 15:24 gotcha 15:25 thank you :) 15:25 <@Loggers_VIII> fasho 15:26 <@Loggers_VIII> dnethack and its forks have the best build variety easily I think, no other variant comes close 15:26 3.7 is gradually improving compared to latest stable, and evilhack's a fair bit ahead of both 15:26 <@Loggers_VIII> I forgot about tortles’ gloves, but they want dragonhide 15:27 <@Loggers_VIII> *dragonbane 15:27 <@Loggers_VIII> you could go for gauntlets of purity but imo the extra AC + acid red from dragonbane edges out gopur advantages if you want to play optimally 15:27 <@Loggers_VIII> *acid res 15:29 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:29 not that you're necessarily/out-of-hand wrong but I feel like what you can ascend with speaks a bit more to build diversity compared to what's most optimal 15:29 but I'm a guy of degrees so :B 15:30 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:31 evilhack build variety is a lot better than vanilla 15:31 inclined to generally agree in light of what I just said 15:31 yeah vanilla build variety is just non existent 15:31 (3.7 a little better now) 15:31 speed boots? sometimes I prefer speed helm. shirt of drain res? not always 15:32 I've used a lot of different scales 15:32 often dragonbane, but not always 15:32 etc 15:33 i love dragonbane 15:33 but you know what i love more 15:33 level-capped dragon pets 15:33 it's usually like a choice of one option or another with heavy preference to one when it comes to evil I find 15:34 previously mentioned exceptions being scales and weapons 15:34 what bones did you find dingotron? 15:35 shirt of decay or telepathy with heavy decay bias, boots of speed or jumping with heavy speed bias, etc 15:35 ah coplate probably 15:35 maybe you could wear an excellence shirt, but I think an excellence weapon would be better 15:36 I think i've put excellence on my shirt when I have telepathy/drain res from other sources 15:36 sometimes I even use armor with an object prop I find randomly :-) 15:37 i can't even remember the last time I found a random object prop on armor :P 15:37 my last draugr used an orcish helm of fire res to ascend 15:37 wow, lucky 15:37 draugr actually want fire res props right? cuz they're vulnerable? 15:37 mhm 15:37 yeah 15:37 can't get it intrinsically 15:38 or are they capped at 50%? 15:38 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:38 capped at 50 intrinsically 15:38 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:38 I think it's capped at 50% but I may be geeked 15:38 correct 15:39 my caveman has found a helm of caution, could well be an ascension item 15:42 a caveman isn't going to be very interested in a helm of brilliance, after all :P 15:44 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Cav Dwa Fem Neu), 0 points, T:38, poisoned by a rotted human corpse, while praying 15:45 not with that attitude 15:45 (I still need to see how viable various gimmicky builds are in 3.7) 15:47 the message "clonk!" interrupting waiting never fails to fill my soul with a great hatred 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Cav Dwa Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1039 (0:03:55) 15:49 clonk 15:50 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 15:50 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 15:52 clonk 15:54 why does naming sting break illiterate? 15:54 naming in general breaks illiterate p. sure 15:55 no it's just sting/orcrist 15:55 is it? hm 15:55 is it a meta joke? like "you've read the books so you're literate"? 15:56 fuck peaceful mines btw holy shit 15:56 i'm never playing a dwarf or gnome again 15:56 or a lawful 15:56 ...or a neutral :p 15:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Cav Dwa Fem Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon her by Ishtar, on T:2770 (0:11:58) 15:58 you could just enable pets y'know... 15:58 :B 15:58 (or let zombies do the dirty work) 15:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Cav Dwa Fem Neu) had a mithril dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to her by Ishtar, on T:2950 (0:12:36) 15:59 the loot is one thing but I want xp 15:59 I try to lead zombies to the guys I want dead but it takes awhile 16:00 this is why I want a deconstruction mechanic. like sure this axe is cool but you literally just gave me a better weapon. i'd like if I could break this into a dwarvish short sword and use THAT to make dwarvish chain mail 16:00 zombies are free xp 16:00 just let 'em revive :B 16:01 no use case for this axe whatsoever as it is, because cavemen can't twoweapon 16:01 disarming tho 16:01 kills orcs gud 16:02 though you prob. want sting for the elf bodies anyway 16:02 Loggers_VIII is an expert at under utilizing objects 16:02 *and orcrist 16:02 :P 16:02 why would I switch to that to kill orcs? orcs are not a threat 16:02 +5 keolewa isn't enough to kill orcs? :P 16:02 I would name sting but illiterate :( 16:03 I was misunderstanding what you wanted sting for and corrected mid-sentence lol 16:03 ahh I see 16:03 there's exactly one (1) monster in the game I care about disarming and I don't see him until vecna-2 16:03 but yeah, mithril for better slashing damage against shock-resistant stuff 16:04 and shit happens early on, you never know 16:05 <[> Loggers_VIII: player monsters with vorpal blade 16:05 i'm neutral, they won't have it 16:05 oh, maybe they will because it's not the crowning caveman gift anymore 16:06 he might've been thinking of playermons in the dungeon but those don't get artis 16:06 also that :B 16:06 i'm not getting close enough to one of those motherfuckers to disarm man 16:06 they do 16:06 and you can't sacfest to yank it out of the pool 16:06 its just rare 16:06 oh do they 16:06 neat 16:06 I need to document player mons in evil anyway 16:06 right after I do those cave lizards I promised 16:07 maybe i'll put this axe in my bag and then take it out on icequeen-1 to chop the trees 16:08 actually now that I learned you can kick dead trees down i don't need axes for that 16:08 k2 does wearing kicking boots grant better chance of kicking dead trees down? 16:09 i wanna say yes but i cant remember 16:09 i need to look at the code 16:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Cav Dwa Fem Neu), 3631 points, T:2957, quit 16:09 now I want to play a monk with kicking boots 16:11 wow, identify book on level 2 16:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:705 (0:02:36) 16:13 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Dro Fem Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:1915 (0:05:38) 16:16 wow that's pretty great actually 16:16 maybe the only artifact a monk wants 16:16 weapon artifact, that is 16:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Dro Fem Cha), 2968 points, T:2199, killed by an arrow 16:18 i always assumed naming sting & orcrist broke illiterate because it has a actual effect on the game 16:18 other naming can be easily replaced with out-of-game note-taking; disallowing it would just be petty 16:19 what confused me was that naming something doesn't really require literacy, but now i'm remembering that messages imply you actually engrave the name on your weapon 16:19 oh i see what you mean 16:20 hi terrapin 16:20 like "i dub thee sting!" or something would not be literate 16:20 hi Umbire 16:20 right 16:20 terrapin: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Wand_of_teleportation does this cover all the upcoming stuff for the wand properly? also wanted to see if the read of current stable code was correct 16:21 but there's that message "your hand slips while engraving and you write " message so I guess you do need to actually know how to write in order to christen sting/orcrist correctly 16:21 wanted to ask specifically about how offensive mon use of tele wands was bugged 16:22 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:29 there simply wasn't code in find_offensive to make tele wands considered as offensive items 16:30 so the refs I updated were spot-on in that, I assumed as much 16:30 when this was reported, a commit disabled the code that allowed for the possibility of offensive tele, but at the same time added in code in find_offensive 16:31 i would guess it was only kept disabled to avoid changing anything without further feedback, which i guess didn't come or was negative 16:31 yeah 16:31 the commit if you're curious/want a citation: https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/8d1e0d17565ca7567cd6c75565a3e5c6e87f8db1 16:32 I think I already cited that in the article itself? 16:32 or meant to in history but forgot 16:33 if you mean the ones pertaining to 3.7 changes, then yeah they're in the article 16:33 I mean the one you just linked 16:34 ah. could be; i didn't see it on my first glance but didn't look closely 16:34 hey 16:34 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 16:34 man that's twice now i've gotten this impossible in the fuzzer 16:34 and both times a spellbook caught fire 16:35 Breakpoint 3, impossible (s=0x555555a51818 "trying to break non-equipped glass obj?") at pline.c:500 16:35 wtf is going on 16:35 yasi: change impossibles to inconceivables 16:35 omg yes 16:35 oh no not the non-equipped glass obj again 16:36 https://termbin.com/xjn6 16:36 ^ both crashes, exact same parts in the code 16:37 fuzzing a druid both times but i dont think that matters 16:40 terrapin, "It is possible for a monster to zap a wand of teleportation at the hero, but this is very rare and usually requires that monster to have the Amulet of Yendor, and the monster will not attempt it again if they zap you on a no-teleport level." 16:41 ^the code I cited for this isn't deferred, but would it still potentially come up, even if it's once in a blue moon? 16:46 yeah Umbire i believe that has always and continues to be a possibility 16:47 since it's considered "defensive" by the code and find_defensive has a provision for it it presumably always worked, and is entirely unaffected by any of the commits re: offensive wand use 16:51 dammit i cant remember... how to do load or go to a specific line in a gdb backtrace 16:52 i wanna see what obj is 16:52 oh, frame 16:53 print obj 16:53 $2 = (struct obj *) 0x555555fcee00 16:53 how the fuck am I supposed to know what that is? lol 16:54 (gdb) print obj->otyp 16:54 $4 = 374 16:54 ok so now i gotta look in include/onames.h 16:55 scroll of genocide 16:55 still confused hah 16:57 looks like the scroll was wielded to attack a monster 16:57 yup 16:58 and monsters is... 16:58 (gdb) print mon->data->mname 16:58 $8 = 0x555555a371a9 "flaming sphere" 16:58 perhaps it caught on fire? 16:58 ah well there we go 16:58 so odd 16:58 it was wielded, not thrown 16:58 lets see if i can recreate it 16:58 manually 16:59 i was confused how burn erosion from passive attacks could catch a scroll on fire but sphere explosions make more sense 17:02 hmm 17:03 doesnt want to recreate 17:03 ah got it 17:04 You begin bashing monsters with your scroll of genocide. You struggle trying to use the scroll of genocide as a weapon. 17:04 You kill the poor flaming sphere! The blast reveals a secret door. The door is consumed in flames! 17:04 You are caught in the flaming sphere's explosion! Your scroll of genocide catches fire and burns! You feel very guilty. 17:04 You hear the rumble of distant thunder... trying to break non-equipped glass obj? 17:04 i used summoned spheres because they only have 1 hp. easy to kill 17:06 looking at break_glass_obj() in dothrow.c 17:06 does that impossible even need to be there? 17:07 there's already a guard against !obj 17:09 there's also a check against breaktest() also 17:10 perhaps... remove that impossible, and in breaktest() put a guard in against flimsy objs 17:10 that would cover paper and other materials that dont break 17:10 i mean i find it concerning that a burned scroll isn't triggering the !obj test 17:10 terrapin i think its because if (!obj) comes before that impossible 17:11 iirc the impossible was there because at the time objects on the floor were often being passed to break_glass_obj with odd results 17:11 hmm 17:11 right, so shouldn't the return FALSE happen before the impossible is reached? 17:12 yeah you'd think so 17:12 unless obfree is called in time maybe? 17:12 *isnt 17:12 must be 17:13 hmm no 17:13 in trap.c 17:13 if (in_sight) 17:13 pline("%s catches fire and burns.", Yname2(obj)); 17:14 and then right after delobj(obj); 17:14 also setnotworn 17:14 which handles wielded too 17:17 hmm no cant slap is_flimsy() in breaktest, otherwise food things like cream pies and melons wouldnt go splat 17:20 tricky 17:20 i think destroy_item is used rather than fire_damage in explosions? 17:21 but that calls useupall which does obfree anyway 17:21 the 'catches fire and burns' bit is just in fire_damage() I think 17:22 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/5ab35b5cbb19c7ed00c765e68f70741eaa486841/src/zap.c#L6206 17:23 used by destroy_one_item() 17:23 aaaah 17:24 calls setnotworn then useup 17:26 useup() calls useupall() 17:26 gtg for dinner 17:26 k 17:26 i'll work on it 17:31 i think i got it 17:31 more testing... MOAR 17:46 yup i got a fix 17:59 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:35792 (17:49:05) 18:09 <@captkirk1988> Is there a port for this for iOS? 18:10 technically yes 18:10 <@captkirk1988> Where and how do I get it? 18:10 <@captkirk1988> I use an iPad. 18:11 you'd have to compile your own binary 18:11 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/README.md#installation 18:11 the only pre-compiled binary is for windows 18:11 <@captkirk1988> Oh. I do not know how to do that. I’m sorry 18:11 the linux instructions work for mac also 18:11 <@captkirk1988> All I have is an iPad and I’m not good at coding etc 18:12 ah 18:12 <@captkirk1988> Yeah. 😞 18:12 you can play online if you prefer, hardfought hosts evilhack 18:12 but there's no build of evilhack for iOS like iNetHack2 or whatever its called 18:13 maybe i could look into doing that. i've never built an app for a mobile device before :) 18:14 take it from me, you do not want to get into the weeds of supporting a platform you don't actually play on 18:14 (I hate the windows build of xnh so so much) 18:14 <@captkirk1988> If you do, let me know. 18:14 <@captkirk1988> I’ve dabbled in ssh on iPad but I need an external keyboard. 18:14 ooof 18:15 :( 18:15 <@captkirk1988> I mean I can play it without on a terminal but it’s very awkward 18:15 yeah i understand 18:15 aosdict duly noted :) 18:15 <@captkirk1988> Err I mean I did NH 18:15 i do have an ipad here though 18:16 and we only have an ipad because mini-me has an iphone and if you want to successfully manage parental controls on her phone, you need *another* apple device to do it from 18:16 it's a racket 18:16 <@captkirk1988> 😞 18:18 -!- rebatelo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:18 <@captkirk1988> @