00:02 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible splungetoo's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:3955 (0:37:24) 00:04 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a dented pot entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:4030 (0:38:42) 00:15 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:4865 (0:50:01) 00:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:6291 (1:10:05) 00:19 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 00:31 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 21914 points, T:6475, killed by an elven king 00:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Fem Neu) genocided alhoons, on T:48506 (5:55:34) 00:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Fem Neu) genocided green slimes, on T:48508 (5:56:12) 00:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Fem Neu) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:48703 (5:58:11) 01:59 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:04 i wonder if I can beat my speed record 02:05 ~3 hours for gehennom + endgame seems kinda doable idk 02:07 how did you handle Vecna? 02:08 I smashed a paralysis potion on his head and stoned him 02:08 nice 02:08 I might do the same for lucifer 02:09 para pot again! krm26 used them too despite his aversion 02:09 I have sooooo many para pots this game 02:09 like 9 in the bag 02:09 they're very good 02:09 i've always used them for Lucifer, sometimes the other demon bosses 02:10 I've always found them too risky, but I will probably have to try that now 02:11 the main concern with me is that they can get destroyed 02:11 and they can miss 02:11 main concern for me? I dunno 02:12 yeah if Lucifer gets off a couple prot casts it can get very dicey 02:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Fem Neu) killed Baphomet, on T:49756 (6:05:41) 02:16 baphomet is really not an issue when you have 308 HP and -72 AC :P 02:22 Orcus will be trickier I expect 02:23 Mephistopheles is currently beating my ass six ways to Sunday 02:23 oof, hellfire attack 02:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Fem Neu), 1554586 points, T:50368, killed by Mephistopheles 02:26 wow, one turn went from like 60% HP to dead :( 02:26 I got slowed by a magical eye he summoned 02:26 nooooo 02:26 slow as a tortle is super fucked up 02:27 yeah, getting slowed is deadly 02:27 I wish there was a source of slow res that tortle could get 02:28 have a wand of speed ready I guess 02:28 maybe an object property 02:28 I think I only saw one wand of speed and it got exploded :( 02:28 I had a million wands though so I could have lost track of it 02:28 ouch 03:03 [hdf-au] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 288 points, T:1150, killed by a goblin shaman 03:12 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:13 [hdf-au] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 288 points, T:1491, killed by a gnome lady 03:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Hum Mal Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon him by Ishtar, on T:6511 (2:22:12) 03:36 [hdf-au] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2337 (0:17:46) 03:40 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:41 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:35 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) had a dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:20218 (3:46:03) 04:46 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) had a short sword entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:21310 (3:57:29) 04:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Hum Mal Neu) used a forge to create Harbinger, on T:9206 (3:29:05) 04:58 now the challenge is to not anger any peacefuls 05:15 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 05:19 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:20 [hdf-au] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a sling on an altar, on T:4958 (2:01:53) 05:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:2784 (0:14:41) 05:29 magic lamp, fingers crossed... 05:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 6652 points, T:2928, killed by a rope golem 05:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:10055 (3:53:43) 05:29 yay 05:42 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) had a large shield entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:23387 (4:30:05) 05:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2565 (0:12:21) 06:03 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:04 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 06:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:5709 (0:35:15) 06:25 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) had a spear entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:25722 (4:49:21) 06:35 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:38 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) had an axe entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:26435 (5:02:18) 06:42 [hdf-au] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:6157 (3:24:10) 06:49 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) had a dagger entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:27390 (5:13:10) 07:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11648 (4:37:56) 07:35 hep me hep me mobileuser i have decision paralysis 07:38 i am 1 trollbane wish away from retribution using hand; 1 grayswandir wish away from purity; 2 wishes away from the hotdog. nothing seems super-appealing 07:39 ugh 07:39 i think i should probably do dragonbane/retribution and hope i can get an angel to drop demonbane or sunsword 07:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:106677 (1 day, 8:38:34) 07:49 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed +3 trollsbane", on T:106708 (1 day, 8:39:45) 07:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:106709 (1 day, 8:40:12) 07:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:6408 (0:40:38) 07:55 sorry, I am too late! 07:56 yeah 07:56 im committed 07:56 I think I prefer hotdog to AoR 07:56 really should have just made ashmar and waited i guess 07:57 hey, I could well be wrong 07:57 then i somehow angered kathryn walking to my stash 07:57 always have a candy bar ready near Kathryn :-) 07:58 does a candy bar pacify her? 07:58 i do have her locked in her own room 07:58 yeah, that's been the case for a while now 07:58 well, it pacifies the enchantress, not the ice queen 07:59 cool 07:59 too bad i cant feed it to her though the iron bars 07:59 heh 08:00 realized im short forges too, pretty scatterbrained this run 08:01 ooh, forge in vecna? is that new? 08:01 oh, Loggers splatted, watch out for dangerous bones 08:02 in gehennom? 08:03 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1740893546.evil.html 08:04 oh oh oh oh me want (sorry loggers) 08:05 im at 30 with juiblex right now 08:05 i want those bracers so bad 08:05 ah the bracers 08:05 I was wondering 08:05 and he has vorpal blade, so no accidental beheading 08:06 i'd kil k2's mother for that bones 08:06 juiblex will prolly kill me now 08:06 omg lol 08:06 or i can die there and add the sceptre of might 08:07 Mephistopheles is no slouch 08:08 every single arcane caster of any stripe this game has always double-summoned on me immediately 08:08 with the sole exception of vecna 08:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:107476 (1 day, 9:02:15) 08:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9854 (1:02:38) 08:24 anyway, i'll probably get my second boss before 35, so loggers will be someone else's treasure 08:31 yup, got my own mephistopheles on 33 08:32 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Mal Neu), 3482 points, T:4922, killed by a hobbit pickpocket, while frozen by a monster's gaze 08:32 i wonder, if i had just level teleported to 35, would i have snagged it? 08:33 what happens when two vorpal jabberwocks fight each other 08:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:13046 (1:20:30) 08:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 8695 points, T:13202, killed by a panther 08:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Mephistopheles, on T:108191 (1 day, 9:28:04) 08:38 damn, lost my pegasus and have yet to find a single wand of turn undead 08:38 i could wish for one i guess 08:39 if i remembered how wand charge wishing worked 08:39 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:39 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 08:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 254 points, T:629, killed by a brown mold 08:52 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1873 points, T:1912, quit 09:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:7 (0:00:06) 09:31 K2 confused about tree blights: you say in the commit notes they are hard to burn, but they are vulnerable to fire? 09:32 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:992 (0:04:37) 09:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1835 (0:14:55) 10:00 but think of the emotional toll you suffer 10:01 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 8419 points, T:5318, killed by a human priestess of Anhur 10:04 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) had a two-handed sword entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:29873 (5:48:27) 10:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3167 (0:32:51) 10:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a cubical amulet on an altar, on T:4576 (0:44:54) 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of reflection, on T:11310 (2:17:44) 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4218 points, T:2614, zombified by a dwarf zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 10:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:13334 (5:45:31) 10:46 Hey I killed Golum twice 10:46 dmonsfree: 2 removed doesn't match 3 pending on Dlvl:3 10:47 Harbinger again 10:49 * K2 sighs 10:50 'hard to burn' as in immolation from weapons like fire brand 10:54 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 6440 points, T:9233, killed by a water moccasin 10:59 I guess this bit: is_blight(mon->data) && !rn2(8) in the completelyburns function 10:59 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2228 (0:13:44) 11:03 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Sam Gia Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:2859 (0:17:18) 11:03 -!- 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#evilhack 11:38 i put a guard in to not even fire off the explosive attack if the target is dead 11:39 i'm testing with a +99 harbinger vs things like newts. meaning a single hit would definitely kill before explosion goes off, but explosion is still happening 11:39 I have the explosion piece in the wrong spot in the code 12:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1200 (0:06:41) 12:01 -!- NetSysFire has quit [Quit: generic quit message] 12:02 -!- NetSysFire has joined #evilhack 12:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3134 points, T:3222, quit 12:25 i should be blowing more stuff up with harbinger but today is my designated tax day :-P 12:26 self employment sucks so hard, i gotta make an extra effort to only work for free this year 12:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1060 (0:06:29) 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 330 points, T:1207, killed by a bolt of cold 12:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1065 (0:06:08) 12:46 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 12:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:2722 (0:17:51) 13:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 11297 points, T:3565, killed by an orange dragon 13:02 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:06 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:06 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:07 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a helm of speed, on T:16720 (6:48:25) 13:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2868 points, T:2906, killed by a pony 13:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:13633 (6:00:14) 13:17 new spells are very fun k2 thank you :) 13:19 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:20 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:21 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:8084 (1:03:07) 13:21 although i did the summon animal thing or whatever and i'm gonna feel guilty when i leave them behind 13:22 it says they are both "loyal" 13:22 yay polytrap 13:22 and i have a jabberwock!!! 13:22 i'm gonna try to turn my ant into something as well ! 13:23 oh that's right i had made a barbed devil here a long time ago 13:23 i don't know charm monster or have harp or anything tho . he is peaceful now 13:24 how many times cna you hit a polytrap?!? i 've gotten like 4 pets out of it 13:26 infinite if your rng is good 13:30 word 13:30 i'm dying to learn the spell (or find a charging scroll) 13:31 i need all SORTS of stuff 13:31 i just found a crystal HoB and before i could fooproof a FellBeast smashed it into pieces :( 13:34 krm26: I know you know Ludios pretty well... I had/have a Ludios without a Croesus 13:34 ever have that happen? 13:34 did he cursed teleort? 13:35 and is in the dungeon somewhere? 13:35 you can't do that thoughj 13:35 unless he had eota but he doesn't (because i do ;) ) 13:35 if you have no croesus it has to be poly or cursed teleport 13:36 i've nevrer had that happen in vanilla or anything 13:36 i'm gonna go back with my pets 13:36 ive never seen it myself 13:36 but rest assured he was generated 13:37 what monsters and items were in there? 13:37 zombie coulda sickened him 13:38 it would say it under #conduct if i did, right? 13:38 no 13:38 croesus isnt listed under conduct 13:38 but medusa is? 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1657 (0:16:49) 13:38 yes 13:38 and the goblin king? 13:39 that's a major diss to him if true 13:39 medusa, cerberus, vecna, tal'gath, goblin king, kathryn 13:39 hmph ok 13:39 your quest nemesis 13:39 maybe because optional 13:39 also he doesn't exist in every game 13:39 weird though. i cleared the whole level 13:39 everything ive mentioned but cerberus and your quest nemesis is also optional 13:39 maybe an NPC killed him and i didn't see the message 13:39 but no because i didn't see him with telepathy from the getgo 13:40 but you are right, croesus isnt guaranteed to exist 13:40 the level doesnt "exist" before you are first on it, so if he wasnt there on turn 1, THAT is weird 13:40 id actually poke k2 about that 13:40 which ludios was it? 13:40 the awful cancelcages one? 13:40 the one i hate with the bridges 13:40 yeah 13:41 yeah, so for a while there were bugs where the safe could be stuck in walls in that one. it isnt 100% impossible there isnt some weird croesus-canceling condition 13:41 so, if you entered blindfolded and there was no croesus, i'd tell k2 13:41 I mean when I get to a level like that I always blind myself before I even go through if I'm not weraing the Eyes. But since I am i go in and immediately cast detect monsters... 13:41 first turn 13:41 and he was not there. I thought that was weird 13:42 but he often rides things? 13:42 I'm gonna search the level better 13:42 have a tortle wizard to deal with 13:43 maybe they killed him by accident? or I was using conflict? 13:43 i might have gotten him killed him conflict but i don't htink so 13:43 he would have been out of range for conflict when you first entered 13:43 he will basically always ride something if there is something available 13:44 ok so like how you said it doesn't get listed in #conduct what about when I die, it will saya ll the monsters and he'd be on there if i did it right ? 13:44 when you die you will see if you killed him, ye 13:44 alirhgt i'm gonna take one for the team and killed myself 13:44 then we'll know what happenedf 13:44 J?K 13:44 j/K 13:45 i don't care all that much unless if i run into him in the dungeon with the amulet it might suck 13:45 surprise! 13:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2299 (0:12:17) 13:58 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 729529 points, T:51876, fell to his death 13:58 sigh 13:59 ouccchhhh 13:59 !lastgame 13:59 krm26: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatelo/evilhack/dumplog/1739557840.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/K/Kaizo/evilhack/dumplog/1741022769.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arch/evilhack/dumplog/1740989080.evil.html 13:59 just being stoned and dumb ;) 13:59 sucks it doesn't leave bones somewhere 14:00 you killed croesus tho 14:00 something else must have killed him while i was on the level 14:01 or i killed him and just forgot? 14:01 ^ most likely 14:02 that's funny that i joked aboutg killing myself to see lol 14:02 i did NOT do that on purpose! 14:02 ugh and now i started a human game and i want to pick up boulders. 14:02 i dunno if i can do this 14:02 might have to play another GIA 14:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5802 (0:32:24) 14:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 10918 points, T:5879, killed by a piranha 14:14 you can also pick up boulders as a druid in ent wildshape 14:16 yeah i'll check all tha tout 14:16 i just kinda want to ascend a combo i'm comfortable with first. I love this version so far! But wow a lot of changes 14:26 rebatelo: why did you drop your a for an o? 14:27 i have a game where i'm ready to kill Rodney but it's the olld version 14:28 so I have it saved and hope to finish it? i dunno if i can do that, but that's why i made a different account jsut cuz i wanted to play the new game like everyone else 14:29 maybe it's been deleted? i'm not sure how that works, but at the time i didn't feel like waiting to play the new game ya know? 14:31 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 336 points, T:1125, killed by the Goblin King 14:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1775 points, T:3105, killed by an Uruk-hai 14:33 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:34 my expectation going into dwarf Valkyrie was "i'm going to do a lot of forging and try and get some crystal stuff and make cool dwarvish gear" but the reality is that the entire mines is peaceful and you can't attack peaceful guys anymore unless you want shit artifact gifts :p 14:35 sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I might have to turn pets on again 14:35 you have pets turned off!?! 14:35 thats nuts 14:35 I think they're irritating 14:36 omigod 14:36 they are like a hugely powerful starting bonus 14:36 yeah they're kinda crazy good 14:36 they dramatically increase early survivability 14:36 and the right pets can be huge mid and even late game 14:37 speaking of which, i just lost my pet vorpal jabberwock :-( 14:37 but at least he didnt get confused and 1-shot me 14:37 aww :( 14:37 i got really excited when mobileuser told me about your unfortunate death, but i failed to get your bones 14:37 coulda really used those bracers! 14:37 i havent gotten a fun gehennom bones in a year 14:38 the new covetous movement threw off my game 14:39 it is weird 14:39 i havent tried a boulder fort yet tho...orcus is next so we will see 14:39 it's certainly more random than the previous version 14:39 it made vecna a LOT easier 14:39 i hit him with a para pot and stoned him so I didn't notice :P 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:110913 (1 day, 11:03:58) 14:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7486 (1:05:47) 14:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1113 (0:06:24) 14:48 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1802 (0:08:28) 14:55 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:58 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 26204 points, T:9772, suffocated by a creeping mound 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) used a forge to create the Armor of Retribution, on T:112137 (1 day, 11:27:10) 15:07 zombies early game bahj 15:07 so annoying after being XL 27 or whatver i was 15:08 so goblin town is DL2 or 3, right? 15:08 think so 15:08 early magic whistle... i DO like pets 15:09 right when i said that my cart died o fcourse lol 15:10 "crackling flames" i assume means forge? 15:11 i think i had weaponless still in that game where i fell 15:11 yup, forge 15:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed platinum yendorian express card", on T:112171 (1 day, 11:33:19) 15:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Twoflower, on T:112174 (1 day, 11:33:26) 15:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4946 (0:26:59) 15:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +3 dragonhide bracers of excellence", on T:112177 (1 day, 11:35:08) 15:14 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2120 (0:22:57) 15:15 yay marker 15:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "E", on T:6651 (0:36:53) 15:27 gold lamp for 4444 in a gnomish hardware store 15:27 oil? 15:28 i have 9 CH 15:28 early magic whistles are the best 15:29 guaranteed magic at that price 15:30 health food store had a hly water 15:30 what should i wish for hmmm 15:31 i never wish with my first magic lamp 15:31 probly dhide speed boots 15:31 imo that is an awful first wish :-) 15:31 i usualy don't eithr 15:31 reawlly? 15:31 you want a first wish that might keep you from otherwise dying 15:31 i do that all the time 15:31 speed 15:31 very fastr 15:31 so it is gonna be something with mr on it, or maybe green dragonscales, or something like that 15:31 and i will use them the entire game 15:32 it's a great first wishj 15:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 475 points, T:1570, killed by a bugbear 15:32 if you don't know how important being very fast is, you aren't paying attention 15:32 especially early game 15:32 the dungeon is littered with dragonhide speed boots in the early bones of unwise players :-) 15:32 mid game 15:32 and at the end 15:32 the whole game 15:32 yeah that's true 15:32 with your speed and darkness from no lamp you can waltz into the first gelcube you see 15:33 it's a good first wish in vanilla depending on role.. most people wish for MR 15:33 but i play monk obviously and i get it with my QA 15:33 anything is a good first wish in vanilla, vanilla doesnt care what you do 15:33 so why would i wish for MR? 15:33 just survive until i kill kaen 15:33 what do you wish for? 15:34 now i'm curious :) 15:34 as a monk? monks dont need wishes :-) 15:34 what race/alignment? 15:34 very true 15:34 oh i do fine 15:35 oh i see everyone thinks monks are easy 15:35 and monks start with intrinsic speed, making speed boots substantially less valuable for them 15:35 and that's why no one plays them 15:35 weaponless is so easy it's almost like cheating so no one does it lol 15:35 monks are fun, and easy, and disappointing in that you dont care about 99% of artifacts 15:35 and a giant monk no armor, shirt or cloak 15:35 but they are boring . so only i play them lol 15:35 I mean it's just krm saying it, bit of an extrapolation there 15:36 very true 15:36 also hi other folks not chatting 15:36 yeah, the lack of gear on a giant makes them almost as difficult as the next easiest role :-) 15:36 as fasr as all those items being useless it sucks 15:36 hey now Umbire! whatcha implying 15:36 that other people could use a greeting since I am talking to you both already 15:36 lawful giant monk was hard. took me a while 15:36 i love playing monks, they are a super-fun role. but i lose an entire artifact-centric minigame, so i dont play them a lot 15:37 but i ended up with like an 11 hr ascensi0on when i finally did it i think?? 15:37 ive done lawful giant monk 15:38 i think? 15:39 there it is, 0.8.2, 83k turns, elbe bone surv 15:39 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1612960294.evil.html 15:39 one of my fastest runs -- for me, 80k turns is super-fast 15:39 can you link it pleasze? 15:39 there's mine ! lol 15:39 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1690238347.evil.html 15:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 6637 points, T:9184, quit 15:40 ahhh yeah there were no gauntlets of purity haha 15:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2081 (0:08:58) 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Sam Gia Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11543 (1:34:04) 15:41 i really like the new game the little bit i've played. I forgot you can fall to your death in that lvl 15:41 like vlads 15:41 there should be a pit that collects all the bones and ghosts of everyone who falls to their death 15:41 i'm fine with that. i just forgot 15:43 i mean i'm anti- paranaoid water/lava so i have to be fine with falling to my death :) 15:45 ok so i tame one of these cats and sxteal the lamp from the hardware store. there are like 50 mordor orcs or something coming for me 15:46 and you would just hold on to the lamp? 15:46 what fun is that ;( 15:46 you get 2 wishes now 15:46 art 15:46 i dunno you guys get all your weapons from altars and shit 15:46 i do to 15:46 but i play weaponless lol 15:47 now that i'[m playhing human totally gonna wish for dbane and grayswandir if i can .. i wasn't doing that as giant because there is no way to get acid resistance that i know of 15:49 i miss being able to drop boulders every where i think i will play gia again 15:51 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 15:52 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:52 got the lamp 15:52 it was that minetown with the two cats locked up 15:52 so now i have two cats and a magic lamp 15:52 gold tho 15:52 that's the other reason i want to rub it 15:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3775 points, T:5626, killed by a creeping mound 15:54 you do you 15:55 well if you were going to make an early wish what would it be? 15:55 human monk? 15:55 yeah 15:55 hmmm 15:55 eota 15:55 no 15:55 maybe a ring of free action 15:56 k 15:56 since you are poison res at 3 15:56 or maybe a dragonhide t-shirt of esp 15:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:17833 (7:10:16) 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Sam Gia Mal Law) had a wooden long sword entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:15181 (1:54:18) 16:05 dragonhide speed boots is a sensible long term wish 16:06 especially if you don't mind taking some risks in the early game 16:07 my instinct is always short term dragonhide MR, but that sucks for monks long term 16:09 what are the odds of Neferet showing up if i wish for eota? 16:09 i did it last game and was able to leave and come back but just curious is it 50/50? 16:11 mobileuser: yeah cuz i know i'm going to use those boots the entire game and being "very fast" keeps ya (well, ME) from getting killed in the early/mid game especially. you can run away from things 16:11 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 16:11 even in vanilla i used to wish for speed boots or an artifact that gave mr 16:12 i cant recreate this dbl kill explosion thing with harbinger still 16:12 mobileuser are you fucking with me 16:12 please say yes so I can have some peace 16:13 [hdf-au] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:10438 (4:12:01) 16:13 heya terrapin 16:13 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Sam Gia Mal Law), 30696 points, T:17623, killed by a chameleon imitating a giant centipede 16:14 hiya 16:14 terrapin: Message from Umbire at 2025-02-11 06:52 EST: brain-eating attacks check for `defends(AD_DRIN, uwep)` against the hero in vanilla - where would something like this potentially come up, be it hypothetical or otherwise? 16:14 have you been away that long? 16:14 k2: does the owner ALWAYS come with like a first QA wish? lol 16:14 asking for a friend 16:14 as of 0.9.0 yes 16:14 wow 16:14 i guess so 16:14 quest artifact, always get owner 16:15 it's fine i just wanted to know 16:15 my friend 16:17 i keep going for boulders because i just played that longish gia game 16:17 k2, i got the double kill explosion too 16:18 i hate you 16:22 :P 16:23 sorry K2 16:23 H A T E 16:23 fwiw I was blind and other monsters got killed too when I hit gollum 16:23 [hdf-au] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 7672 points, T:10698, killed by an orc shaman 16:25 yeah i'm wondering about the blind piece 16:25 because realizes_damage, part of the checks revolve around if the target is seen 16:25 which i dont quite get 16:26 maybe? it's happened to others in the hidden dungeon where people tend to blind themselves 16:26 did you have esp? 16:26 telepathy, yes 16:27 ok 16:27 i can work with that 16:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:113619 (1 day, 12:49:14) 16:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:113630 (1 day, 12:49:33) 16:28 aaaaaand i just recretaed it 16:28 *recreated 16:34 now you can add your name to the list of people you are cursing! 16:35 damn me! damn me to hell! 16:35 ok so in artifact_hit() there's this: 16:35 boolean vis = (!youattack && magr && cansee(magr->mx, magr->my)) 16:35 || (!youdefend && cansee(mdef->mx, mdef->my)) 16:35 || (youattack && u.uswallow && mdef == u.ustuck && !Blind); 16:36 and at the end of every artifact block it's return realize_damage; 16:36 and this is what realize_damge is: 16:36 sorry, realizes_damage 16:36 realizes_damage = (youdefend || vis 16:36 ./* feel the effect even if not seen */ 16:36 || (youattack && mdef == u.ustuck)); 16:37 what I dont get, is why it's checking vis 16:37 ok so we've narrowed down the issue to being blind 16:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 404 points, T:1342, killed by a bolt of lightning 16:39 vis is so you don't get messages like "You disintegrate the foo" when hitting something blind because in theory you can't see the disintegration happen iirc 16:40 i remember there were issues with SoA not working right when blind at some point 16:40 right 16:40 ...i thought this bug was seeing the explosion after something is already dead? 16:40 fwiw in vanilla, realizes_damage checks vis also 16:41 krm26 i didnt put 2 and 2 together (not seeing things) until now 16:44 so i guess vis is supposed to be false when you are the attacker unless you are engulfed? weird 16:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:114242 (1 day, 13:07:29) 16:47 so if an explosion happens, it kills the one physically hit twice 16:47 is magr set when an explosion kills something? 16:48 or is it an attackerless effect? 16:48 yeah 16:48 so artifact_hit is called twice with the same magr and mdef but different dmgptr? 16:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1093 (0:05:18) 16:52 i dunno yet 16:53 at a quick glance if it would seem that this kind of bug might arise from the damage being called with magr and then the explosion being called without it, but if that isnt the case, that isnt the case 17:03 hmm 17:05 it seems weird that they decided to make the var vis mean "can see either the attacker, unless it is you, or the defender, unless it is you" 17:05 i would have thought it should behave the same if you can see yourself as the attacker as if you can see anybody else as the attacker 17:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4119 (0:22:25) 17:06 why cant i convert orcus's altar! boo! 17:07 do infidel next, then you can use it :-) 17:07 ooh this orcustown mind flayer just gave me a cursed magic lamp 17:09 woah it worked 17:09 ikr! 17:09 i forget. can speed hats be dragonhide now? 17:10 nope 17:10 dammit 17:10 how about now 17:10 I blame Loggers 17:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +3 dragonhide speed boots", on T:114841 (1 day, 13:31:47) 17:10 ah, flying amulet from Vlad? 17:11 yup 17:11 wait you already killed Orcus 17:11 yup 17:11 I didn't see a livelog 17:11 he was so ashamed he asked for it to be kept private 17:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 10 arrows on an altar, on T:5067 (0:27:51) 17:12 but you are right, it didnt get logged. 17:12 he is, however, dead 17:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:5145 (0:28:28) 17:12 and you didn't take a lot of max HP damage as far as I can see 17:12 HAX 17:13 heh 17:13 i haz teh idea 17:13 mobileuser! prepare the munchy box! 17:14 \o/ 17:14 serious question - mobileuser, how often do you eat a munchy box? 17:15 omigod there are children present 17:16 im moderately fluent with britishisms but "munchy box" is new to me 17:16 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munchy_box 17:16 its a heart attack in a box 17:17 but, I like where your mind went krm26 17:17 pfft 17:17 "There have been reports of healthier options of munchy boxes." 17:18 I like the idea that the author is a wide-eyed journalist hearing rumors of this far-off land 17:19 welp time to go to glasgow next time I'm in scotland 17:19 omigod a box with pakora, salad, chow mein, and french fries in it? sign me up 17:19 jebus 17:20 how did i not stumble over that in scotland last year 17:20 ah, glaswegian 17:20 lol never K2 17:21 I resist that temptation 17:27 -!- Arch has joined #evilhack 17:27 Demo 17:28 oops, sorry Demo, i mean Demogorgon hah 17:28 I have had deep fried mars bars though 17:29 surprisingly nice 17:29 perhaps a minor?  wildshaped into a giant beetle, carry capacity was maxed out to 1000 but strength still said it was only 7. 17:29 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:29 ^a minor bug? 17:30 nope 17:30 wildshape is strong 17:30 uh oh i am not paying sufficient attention for caveman boss battles 17:30 Oh, cuz everything else I've encountered they goe to 18/** strength. 17:31 so k2, once one demon makes a hole in your boulder fort, additional demon bosses just wait their turn. shouldnt they make a hole for themselves as well? 17:32 i was promised a boulder hole in every pot 17:36 so if i move the explode bit of harbinger into if (realizes_damage) { the explodion wont fire if you're blind 17:36 lol 17:37 *explosion 17:38 Also trying to find out why my starting caveman with a dexterity of 18 has an AC of 10? Wearing nothing that would raise my AC, completely naked. 17:38 Should it not be 8? 17:42 yeah it should 17:42 it is in my test game 17:44 odd, well I have a game now where it is not. 17:44 are you playing right now? 17:44 lemme look 17:44 Yes. 17:44 which server/player 17:45 Unga, Au. 17:46 can you show your inventory? 17:46 oh i see 17:46 you're burdened 17:46 BURDENED. 17:46 dummy 17:46 being burdened or greater negates any dex bonus 17:46 I only just became burdened. 17:46 yeah. 17:47 wow. 17:47 so odd how I STILL miss those even though they are colored. 17:47 I have Weak and Fainting set to red, reverse and blinking and still miss them 17:55 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3947 (0:17:00) 17:57 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4179 (0:18:42) 18:01 -!- bobby12345 has joined #evilhack 18:02 hmm ok so if i take vis out of the equation (realizes_damage) the dmonsfree impossible still occurs 18:06 hah fixed it 18:06 What'd ya do 18:07 return TRUE; right after the explode bit 18:07 that way it doesnt continue on down to return realizes_damage; 18:08 Ah right, forgot to switch the train to its own tracks 18:10 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 11218 points, T:5787, killed by a warg 18:12 this also fixes the thrown piece 18:12 meaning the explode bit can now occur again when it's thrown 18:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 5070 points, T:10020, killed by a dwarvish spear 18:19 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 18:22 back in a few 18:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 809 points, T:1786, killed by a piranha 18:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:115599 (1 day, 13:54:38) 18:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Baphomet, on T:115604 (1 day, 13:55:01) 18:39 [hdf-au] [evil] Unga (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:4197 (1:18:44) 18:52 [hdf-au] [evil] Unga (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4712 (1:32:17) 19:06 -!- Arch has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) murdered Backup, her faithful saber-toothed tiger, on T:117328 (1 day, 14:27:52) 19:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 487 points, T:1011, killed by a bugbear 19:31 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest5598 19:31 -!- Guest5598 has quit [Killed (iridium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 19:31 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:32 [hdf-au] [evil] Unga (Cav Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6583 (2:12:16) 19:50 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 128 points, T:301, poisoned by an orcish dagger 20:05 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 oilskin toque", on T:118378 (1 day, 15:25:04) 20:09 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 710 points, T:1615, killed by a piranha 20:27 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 20:35 weee 20:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 597 points, T:1471, killed by the Goblin King 20:43 EvilHack Commits: Fix: dmonsfree with artifacts that cause explosive damage. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/059e010f8989ae5ef3a68f2215681325d12a8ce7 20:46 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 21:00 latest commits are live 21:00 if you're rockin harbinger, tempest, or dichotomy and currently playing, you'll want to save/reload 21:01 awesome 21:01 @Loggers_VIII you can now burn down trees and doors with firey artifacts/fire obj prop weapons 21:02 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.5.1] 21:04 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:09 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:13 burn it ALL down 21:14 mmm finally acid blast on toss, nice 21:16 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 21:23 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Bagginses (Dru Cen Mal Neu), 697 points, T:744, killed by a crossbow bolt