00:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 3 points, T:61, killed by a water moccasin 00:21 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 00:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2030 (0:07:49) 00:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Mon Dro Mal Cha), 11733 points, T:5237, killed by a gnome lord 00:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Cav Dwa Fem Law) had Keolewa bestowed upon her by Anu, on T:7555 (0:32:45) 01:12 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:17 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:18 -!- Glasshopper has joined #evilhack 02:50 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:52 -!- mobileuser has quit [Client Quit] 02:52 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:01 K2 Loggers_VIII a draugr biting a black dragon is suppressed, but not if you are partially resistant 03:02 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:02 So in my Convict case I couldn't avoid damage from partial disintegration (force fighting to avoid it just tries to steal) 03:44 I'm actually going to Fort Ludios to see if the gold is there. Because maybe somebody stole the gold. Tons of gold. And you’re laughing?? 03:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Dra Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:84334 (1 day, 8:56:33) 05:06 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:08 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:10 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:21 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:23 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:26 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.9.1 - https://znc.in] 05:27 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 05:30 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 05:30 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:31 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 05:44 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:47 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:07 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:08 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 06:09 Greetings, mobileuser. 06:10 salutations Umbire 06:31 [hdf-au] [evil] afenner (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 10 runed arrows on an altar, on T:5536 (1:46:20) 06:34 -!- jonadab has joined #evilhack 07:12 [hdf-au] [evil] afenner (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:7286 (2:20:52) 07:15 [hdf-au] [evil] afenner (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:7463 (2:23:36) 07:28 mobileuser, followed up on your updates, differentiating the objmat article some as well. 07:29 ah nice! 07:31 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 07:35 with the addition of grass and sand, the page could use a "terrain type" section 07:36 then we can move the shallow water/sewage stuff there from the gnomish mines section 07:40 [hdf-au] [evil] afenner (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:10258 (2:48:44) 07:40 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Bronze_(EvilHack) 07:41 Sewage has its own article already, so does shallow water. 07:41 Both need working on, but they're there and the info can be copied over whenever. 07:44 The terrain type section also needs to happen, yeah. 07:44 Misunderstood a little. 07:45 Fair warning, still processing a death of a group member from a social meetup that I recently learned happened two weeks ago so. 07:45 If I've been sounding odd, you know why now. 07:46 Oof, my condolences! 07:46 Thank you. 07:46 yeah sorry, I meant for the main evilhack page 07:47 You're fine. 07:49 [hdf-au] [evil] afenner (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:10677 (2:57:56) 08:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:590 (0:02:32) 08:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 299 points, T:601, poisoned by an elven arrow 08:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Dra Mal Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:86036 (1 day, 10:06:40) 08:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1185 (0:04:55) 08:08 That's everything from the Evil article propagated so far minus the Giantslayer and Keolewa stuff. 08:08 Giantslayer article has a bunch of stuff on the docket I've wanted to resolve for a minute, which might involve splitting it. 08:08 Keolewa I'm much more on the fence about in that regard. 08:28 This run sucks lel 08:28 Might just go do the quest without acid res 08:28 See if my dragon can eat the dark one before he melts me 08:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Dra Mal Cha) had a cloth studded armor entrusted to him by Tymora, on T:86383 (1 day, 10:22:23) 08:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2192 (0:24:34) 08:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:2217 (0:25:32) 08:45 Hope my dragon's hungry 08:45 or I'm cooked 08:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:37692 (4:32:06) 08:46 lol 08:46 yay 08:46 This run is so ass. 4h 30 for a dark one kill 08:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:37708 (4:32:21) 08:47 hurry up! ;-) 08:48 apparently monsters can hide under all kinds of furniture now, even ladders and altars 08:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) completed her quest without incident, on T:38939 (4:35:48) 08:53 <@Loggers_VIII> wizard only speeds up after quest, so you might still get it 08:53 <@Loggers_VIII> 5h or so is pretty lenient 08:54 I have no good ascension kit items tho. Usually by now, I've found CPM or at least had a wish 08:54 plus I basically have to complete Vecna, or I'm losing out on a large portion of wishes 08:57 <@Loggers_VIII> I always do vecna cuz fuck L and alhoons 08:57 <@Loggers_VIII> yeah that’s unfortunate luck tho 08:57 Illithid is my strategy for dealing with them 08:57 Just facetank their tentacles and use magicbane/staff for curse dissapation 08:58 <@Loggers_VIII> the inv management as ith is too difficult for me to play well tbh 08:58 Yeah, it's rough 08:58 Basically have to do sokoban if you dont have a BoH by then 08:59 Adds like half an hour to 40 mins 08:59 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:11469 (1:51:45) 08:59 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:11489 (1:52:08) 08:59 <@Loggers_VIII> I can do soko pretty quick but some of the levels in evil take a lot longer than in vanilla 09:00 <@Loggers_VIII> vanilla I can do like 5 mins usually 09:00 Especially the one with 3 lanes 09:00 and like 21 holes 09:00 <@Loggers_VIII> yeah fuck that one 09:00 <@Loggers_VIII> I dislike a lot of variant sokoban because a lot of the levels aren’t really that interesting puzzle-wise and also take a looooong time 09:01 yeah 09:01 and if you lose concentration for a second, you need to spend a scroll of earth 09:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1208 (0:06:16) 09:11 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +3 gray dragon scales", on T:13069 (2:03:49) 09:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:2331 (0:11:16) 09:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4029 points, T:3387, killed by a bolt of cold 09:21 -!- malor has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 09:21 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 09:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5875 (1:19:37) 09:32 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:34 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16429 (2:27:03) 09:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:41371 (4:52:20) 09:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 13133 points, T:6759, killed by a stone giant, while sleeping 09:39 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 09:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 239063 points, T:42611, killed by an Angel 09:45 Why tf is there an angel there lol 09:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:4876 (0:52:27) 09:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:14 (0:00:14) 09:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 5825 points, T:4922, killed by an invisible woolly mammoth 09:46 damn 09:48 !lastgame Kaizo 09:48 Umbire: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/K/Kaizo/evilhack/dumplog/1740405774.evil.html 09:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:625 (0:02:09) 09:48 @e?Angel 09:48 Angel (A) | Lvl: 14 | Diff: 19 | Spd: 10 | Res: cold sleep shock poison magic | Confer: nothing | MR: 55 | Gen: dungeons | AC: -4 | Atk: 1d6 weapon physical, 1d6 weapon physical, 1d4 claw physical, 2d6 cast magic missile | Align: 12 | flies, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravis 09:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 207 points, T:629, killed by a Green-elf 09:48 Seems normal. 09:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:328 (0:01:59) 09:51 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) murdered MiisuBoi, her faithful little dog, on T:486 (0:02:55) 09:56 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 43730 points, T:13810, quit 10:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 1314 points, T:1677, killed by a bugbear 10:10 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3138 (0:14:03) 10:11 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading The Blacksmith's Cookbook, on T:3387 (0:15:41) 10:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:631 (0:03:09) 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 21438 points, T:19724, killed by a dark elven arrow 10:29 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Gia Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased +5 dragonhide speed boots", on T:36358 (11:12:56) 10:30 -!- rebatelo has joined #evilhack 10:30 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 11967 points, T:5096, killed by an orc shaman 10:34 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 512 points, T:2800, killed by Mr. Ngebel; the shopkeeper 10:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Dra Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:87418 (1 day, 11:04:23) 10:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Dra Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:87434 (1 day, 11:05:49) 10:45 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 106 points, T:1166, killed by a hobgoblin, while fainted from lack of food 10:48 icebox on the first level of gehennom 10:48 just deposited 2 very rancid wraith corpses :-) 10:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3414 (0:34:58) 10:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 2416 points, T:3804, killed by the Goblin King 10:53 i'm pissed i'm fighting neferet and she just disapperaed 10:53 maybe read a scroll or something 10:54 probed and i had her down to 42 hp... 10:54 and shes wearing the eyes so i've just been using normal projectiles (shuriken) 10:55 wouldn't i hear he reading the scroll thoughj? i'm blinded but not deaf 10:56 she dug down 10:57 and now is running around in circles lol 10:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 330 points, T:672, killed by an arrow 10:58 screw it 10:58 yeah I'm curious what the new behaviour if covetous monsters is 10:58 I killed my own nemesis much to quickly to observe it yet 10:59 i really think shes one of the toughest in the game 10:59 absolutely 10:59 (at least the way the mechanics were the last time i played) 10:59 crazy spellcasting 10:59 i just got her again but i left the stairs ( I had TO!!!! SHE WAS RUYNNING IN CIR54CLES LOL) 10:59 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 238 points, T:348, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted gnome lady 11:00 and she just surrounded me with monsters, disenchanter included... I managed to teleport the disenchanter and then dug down myself 11:00 i'm gonna try to levelport and come down the stairs again... I don't know magic missile (my usually distance weapon) but it doesn't mean anything anyway cuz shes wearing the eota! 11:01 i've been throwing shuriken and ALMOST had her 11:01 a couple times 11:01 krm26 wished for the eota and then spent like a thousand turns to kill her 11:01 the covetousnos was not working though. I didn't know things had changed? but she was running in circles 11:01 haha really? 11:02 well that's why i'm dealing with her lol 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 78 points, T:265, killed by a water moccasin 11:02 but i've done this many many times 11:02 they don't warp all the time anymore 11:02 and i've gotten smoked 11:02 oh ok 11:03 it's the summoning that can really get ya (same with Rodney ) 11:03 or archons 11:03 it can just get SO bad SO quickly lol 11:04 That's smart though! Because hell, it got me to move off the stairs 11:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 150 points, T:428, killed by a water moccasin 11:07 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed the invisible Neferet the Green, on T:37432 (11:50:06) 11:07 man, that took a whilel ol; 11:07 lol 11:08 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 56 points, T:255, killed by a water demon 11:11 + 11:15 -!- rebatelo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:16 -!- rebatelo has joined #evilhack 11:17 But yeah, it probably makes the game harder if the "covetous" stuff wasn't so predictable 11:18 Definitely needs some tweaking lol. But it got me off the stairs and forced me to fight 11:19 dammit. update requires reboot. sorry to keep coming and going. Brand new installation 11:19 -!- rebatelo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:21 oh my god that neferet kill took well over a thousand turns 11:21 -!- rebatelo has joined #evilhack 11:22 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a baby owlbear), on T:3172 (0:37:26) 11:26 But I'm guessing that was the point? I mean it was even easier the way people used to do it with 3.43, you could just drop SM or engrave Elbereth and you wouldn't even NEED a boulder fort! And the crying that came with that change?!? There are still people who play 3.43... 11:29 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:37 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 11:37 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Changing host] 11:37 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 11:37 buffed keolewa can consistently kill creeping mounds before suffocation, life is good 11:39 getting rid of my sling bullets and flint stones cuz that shit heavy 11:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Cav Dwa Mal Law) averted death (killed by a hallucinogen-distorted Uruk-hai), on T:10442 (0:54:07) 11:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 16830 points, T:10510, quit 11:41 accidentally abused my alignment by attacking a peaceful guy while hallu :( 11:45 [hdf-us] [evil] MajiLoggers (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1301 (0:04:01) 11:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:3986 (0:37:57) 11:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3302 points, T:3998, zombified by a dwarf zombie, while praying 11:48 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:38450 (12:22:43) 11:48 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5736 (1:03:42) 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:6005 (1:05:20) 11:51 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:51 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:38634 (12:25:31) 11:51 his behavior seemed different too! 11:52 again, not complaining. Just describing the covetousness 11:52 who knows. Kaen seems to act sort of arbitrtarily sometimes anyway 11:53 i had to melee him and it all worked out 11:53 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Gia Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:38671 (12:27:44) 11:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:464 (0:02:55) 11:55 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:6483 (1:10:13) 11:56 awwww yeah i forgot i can branchport 11:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:781 (0:05:51) 11:57 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 11:58 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Changing host] 11:58 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 11:58 rebatelo: basically, the new covetous movement is that when they get within ~2 squares of you, they move like a normal monster 95% of the time instead of teleporting to the stairs and healing 11:58 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Gia Mal Neu) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:38896 (12:32:37) 11:59 so you can get in melee and square up on his ass without worrying about him pussying out (the vast majority of the time) 12:01 [hdf-us] [evil] MajiLoggers (Inf Ith Fem Una) became literate by engraving "Praise Moloch!! >:33", on T:3527 (0:14:26) 12:02 oh ok cool! thanks for explaing 12:02 i think i sorta get it 12:02 I could just tell things have changed!!! probably LONG overdue... 12:02 i haven't gotten the chance to see it in action yet, but that's my understanding 12:02 yeah, covetous movement as it exists in vanilla and most variants is laaaaaameeeeee 12:03 [hdf-us] [evil] MajiLoggers (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4395 points, T:3790, killed by Mr. Hebiwerie; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 12:04 I get such an urge to just throw all my promising infidel starts out the window by attacking shopkeepers 12:04 sometimes it works! 12:04 haha i used to do that 12:04 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:04 ugh... he just left 12:05 well hopefully he reads the backscroll... I used to take my chances on the shopkeeps even NOT playing infidel... A wand of sleep (or polymoprh!) or death if you're really lucky can be an early source of protection 12:06 in evilhack, sometimes zombies do the work lol 12:06 but it can also suck if there's like one shop in the entire dungeon/mines to price id 12:06 and of COURSE that's the guy the zombies decide to kill ! 12:08 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bone staff on an altar, on T:7459 (1:23:43) 12:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 166 points, T:526, killed by Mr. Njezjin; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 12:10 damn just gained 100maxhp from nurse dancing. I should have done that BEFORE i took on Neferet 12:11 But I forgot that she was going to appear. I'm still not sure how it works with the new wishing, but i wasn't completely shocked! lol 12:12 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:12 damn i still haven't discovered SMOKY potion 12:13 it's probably full healing or something 12:13 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:13 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 12:13 smoky fruit juice and booze are my favs 12:13 waht does a tainted bolt mean? 12:13 oh for sure!!! 12:13 or object detection??? Hello, nymph! 12:14 if something is "tainted" it has drow sleep poison on it 12:14 ahh ok 12:14 oh man smoky object detection and aphrodite's level is so great 12:14 maybe i'll play a ranger or some bs. i'm bored and having nethack identity crisis :P 12:15 and the inky potions are like the drow stuff? 12:15 yep 12:15 I can dip projectilers in them? 12:15 it's the same rules as sickness potions 12:17 damn tainted superior dark elven crossbow bolts of frost 12:17 i've never used a crossbow ! 12:17 i've certainly THROWN the bolts as a last ditch effort 12:17 me neither 12:17 crossbows are kind of sad 12:23 I haven't played the Vecna branch other than maybe 2 or 3 times when it first came out 12:23 actually, i usually do the graveyard and the Kas(sp?) level 12:23 it's pretty tough 12:23 fuck kas 12:23 and it got back to K2.... So now he's making ALL of you fight vecna for those wishes 12:23 I apologize 12:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:3054 (0:32:48) 12:24 i always fight that motherfucker anyway because he pisses me off 12:24 hehe 12:24 genociding L and alhoons is great too though! 12:24 well i just have no use for the eye or hand or whatever 12:24 for sure 12:24 alhoons are the worst 12:24 but i would just wish for that dumb hat that mobileuser invented instead of doing the branch 12:25 it depends what you've got in your build as far as the eye and hand... if you're using gauntlets of purity or something the hand is fairly worthless 12:25 the eye giving slotless half spell is pretty great 12:25 as nice at it is? i am back to regular ol' dragonbane 12:26 at least in my current game because there's no other way for a GIA to get acid resistance 12:26 ahh yeah for giant if you really want acid res dragonbane is the way to go 12:27 well it's not that i WANT it!! i don't want to die lol 12:27 and it sucks because the purity gloves are fucking incredible 12:27 i kinda just go without it and pretend that acid blast doesn't exist 12:27 this definitely led to me getting oneshot by ice queen once... 12:28 haha 12:28 oh man 12:28 yeah... same 12:28 rodney's acid blast is massively fucked too 12:29 In theory, if i just get enough MAxhP (600?) i should be able to survive a round or 2 of acid 12:30 i mean... i've eaten a LOT Of acid in my life, but nothing like what the ice queen dishes out... It seems worse than demo or rodney? 12:30 maybe just because i'm not as powerful at that stage 12:30 but i have gotten completely smoked from that spell when she casts 12:31 also, don't ever lose see invisible and bump into a peaceful in front of Kathryn.... 12:32 I think it's a combination of kathryn being really high level + not often having a lot of HP or half spell by the time you encounter her 12:32 even after you have saved the day and pacified and everyone is friends? You screw it up at that point and it is game over lol 12:32 omg yeah 12:33 i want to get her to 0 HP one day 12:33 (she just full heals instantly, but still) 12:34 yeah it reminded me of Izchak the couple of times i've been lazy enough to screw it up 12:36 izchak is pretty manageable at least for an ascension-ready char 12:36 not much point in attacking him at that point, though... 12:36 if you have an insanely strong early pet you can snag a slow digestion ring off him 12:39 what got back to k2 exactly? 12:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Ran Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2040 (0:10:07) 12:42 i'm reading backscroll and i dont understand 12:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3522 (0:49:17) 12:42 i'm as lost as you are on that one :p 12:43 k2 does grimtooth hate drow or just elves? 12:44 it hates all elves 12:44 aww 12:44 found it in a shop 12:44 drow ranger, bet that's fun 12:45 it's sick 12:45 shadowblade \o/ 12:45 ooooh true i am finally playing a character who wants that 12:46 i thought that drow ranger would be annoying because of the ammo breakage, but the darkness aura is way bigger than i thought it was so it's fine 12:48 Gets darker the deeper you go, so more advantage for you also. 12:48 Also hi K2. 12:50 hi 12:50 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 12:50 nice work you and mobileuser updating evilhack stuff on the wiki 12:53 goblin town is quite the safe haven for a dark elf 12:53 HAX 12:53 :P 12:54 Thank you. 12:54 I want to document magic trap stuff in a while, too. 13:04 That was easy. 13:06 what's magic trap stuff, just the cold trap effect? 13:10 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:12 k2: what got back to k2 exactly? 13:12 that some of us were skipping Vecna 13:12 @Loggers_VIII Yes, that. 13:13 Noted it on the Evil page, was also working on the magic trap article. 13:13 I'm late to the party, but are there no more rechargeable WoW? 13:13 i dont care of you skip vecna or not 13:13 oh good 13:13 vecna cares 13:13 you make vecna sad 13:13 ;) 13:14 vecna got a WoW drop because it was a logical place to put it 13:14 fair enough 13:15 i'm going to start playing wishless anyway 13:15 krm26, vecna is sad because he watches your interaction with the RNG 13:15 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:15 i doubt that makes vecna sad :-) 13:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2455 points, T:2393, killed by a dart 13:15 i swear to god i'm gonna make a new demon boss named 'RNG' so krm26 can have his bloody vengeance 13:16 whatcha gonna do when it repeatedly kills me 13:16 the variant is easy enough that you don't really need wishes 13:16 krm26 sit back and eat popcorn 13:16 just call it some name that abbreviates to rng 13:16 wishes arent in evilhack to make it winnable, they are in evilhack to make it more fun 13:17 radical nightmare god! 13:17 no one will notice 13:17 Rodent of uNusual Guise 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1113 points, T:1937, zombified by an orc zombie 13:17 i feel like wishes in all of nethack are sorta like that once you learn the game 13:17 lol krm26 13:18 rooster of noxious gas !! 13:18 idk i might be speaking for myself but without wishes evilhack's fucking me sideways every time 13:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:158, killed by a water elemental 13:19 frequently i have a serious issue that is most quickly resolved with a wish, but there is nothing a wish can do that another 50k turns camping cant do just as well :-) 13:19 well, except for a pet archon of course 13:20 i think i typically ascend with a bunch of unused wand wishes 13:20 of the two recent druids, i think one didnt use a wand wish? the other did bigtime tho 13:23 But, and i'm not trying to start an argument krm26, If you want to grind for many turns and someone else doesn't have the patience or it's just NOT their style of playing, It's ok to call you out and say the way you play isn't right? Even get the game changed? I mean, the game has been changed. I had NO idea others had a problem with other heros altar camping. I cna't imagine it bothering me. 13:23 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:23 Like you are referencing 50k turns... I've done the same 13:23 but now that's wrong apparently 13:24 and i'm being serious. Go watch a vanilla game on NAO... lots of peoiple altar camp 13:24 ive spent a lot of time grinding in the 3 serious this-version games ive played (because i had little other choice besdies dying)...this version's changes dont stop you from camping 13:25 they just throw fewer artifacts at you for doing it 13:25 yeah, this version's changes are not good at de-incentivizing altar camping at all imo 13:25 the think that "well, i don't ahve the patience to use that strategy or take the time to learn spells etc. so screw them!" 13:25 they are good at making sure you don't get to have a million forged artifacts 13:25 but camping is still very much rewarded 13:26 it just blew my mind that people were complaining about how others play 13:26 there are like what 12 of us? 13:26 like do you really want to be the only person who wins (or plays?) 13:27 i still have literally never heard anybody complain about me altar camping (other than k2, whose comments were i think at least partly in jest) 13:27 anyway remarking on something is different than complaining 13:27 it's real... i don't care anymore.. I'm trying to enjoy the game 13:27 it's super fun. I apprecaite what k2 and anyone who has contributed has done 13:28 i barely notice what others are doing 13:28 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Fem Una), 6138 points, T:4637, killed by a giant mosquito, while paralyzed by a monster 13:29 i don't really think any changes you may dislike were because of a targeted effort by other players to convince k2 to make them because they don't like how someone was playing 13:29 so yeah it makes me feel funny when the people who are WAY better than me seem to care so much 13:30 yeah, i don't know 13:30 i come across as the asshole 13:30 obvioulsy i have substtance problems and that is NO ones fault but my own lol 13:30 but when someone else ascends i cheer it on 13:32 i've loved this community for a long time. the last thing i've wanted to do is ruffle feathers 13:36 -!- rebatelo has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:39 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:41 ...right, so I'm gonna go forward with that drow stuff I was talking about before, because bottlenecks like that bug the hell out of me when it comes to wiki stuff. 13:43 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Drow_raider To clarify 13:45 i don't really think any changes you may dislike were because of a targeted effort by other players to convince k2 to make them because they don't like how someone was playing <--- yeah that's not a thing 13:46 dunno why rebatela keeps going back to that 13:47 Couldn't tell ya. 13:47 Just fixed the article up some in the event you clicked. 13:47 krm26 you can altar camp to your hearts delight. changes would have come about regardless :) 13:47 but i do have to give you shit about it cuz its silly 13:50 ...actually shit, forgot. 13:50 K2, can peaceful monsters generate with mounts? 13:51 They can right? Straight up forgot. 13:51 Really annoyed about it. 13:51 yeah 13:51 Alright cool. 13:51 say you're an orc and a goblin outrider spawns 14:04 did nobody see my fort knox joke today 14:04 i did 14:04 i lived, i laughed, i loved 14:05 \o/ 14:13 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Drow_warrior 14:17 interesting, the very rancid corpses I put into the ice box are still very rancid when I remove them 14:18 nice work Umbire! 14:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 7934 points, T:7080, killed by a black unicorn, while frozen by a potion 14:32 mobileuser its their age 14:33 i dont think putting an already rotted corspe unrots it when you put it into an ice box 14:33 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2067 points, T:1839, killed by a flind 14:33 I was sort of expecting it to unrot when removing it 14:33 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Drow_mage 14:34 that's only for corpses that start in an icebox 14:34 right 14:34 SCIENCE 14:34 totally blinded 14:34 how a coprse presents to a draugr (rancid, very rancid) is based off of its age 14:34 corpses still age in an icebox 14:35 its weird 14:35 i wont claim to fully grok the code 14:35 yeah I was wondering because the very rancid corpses it started with do become fresh 14:35 the rot timer is halted, but the corpse still ages 14:36 i need someone smarter than me to have a look at it 14:36 initial value must be preserved somewhere? 14:36 so basically anyone 14:36 lol 14:36 :) 14:37 oooh boy, crypto is tanking across the board today 14:37 first time i've seen bitcoin dip below 90k usd in awhile 14:39 NPC with AC -37 14:39 sigh 14:39 DOGE had mass resignations composed of 20 people from like, the Obama admin 14:39 about to find out how tech-savvy the remaining sycophants really are 14:39