00:37 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 00:37 -!- Loggers_VIII has left #evilhack 00:38 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 00:41 [hdf-us] [evil] MajiLoggers (Inf Ith Fem Una), 351 points, T:1145, killed by a large spider 00:48 [hdf-us] [evil] MajiLoggers (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1248 (0:05:16) 01:16 [hdf-us] [evil] MajiLoggers (Inf Ith Fem Una) became literate by engraving "Praise Moloch!! >:33", on T:3665 (0:21:02) 01:18 [hdf-us] [evil] MajiLoggers (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3745 (0:22:23) 01:18 [hdf-us] [evil] MajiLoggers (Inf Ith Fem Una), 13471 points, T:3779, killed by a goblin-captain called Agrisaigor of Ogula, while praying 02:01 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha), 112064 points, T:28557, killed by Ixoth 02:32 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:36 !lastgame 02:36 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/splungetoo/evilhack/dumplog/1739828066.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1738841789.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Mystes/evilhack/dumplog/1739785193.evil.html 02:45 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (erbium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 02:45 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 03:09 . 03:09 mobileuser: Message from K2 at 2025-02-17 20:48 EST: I saw your talk concerning b&c and the blacksmith hammer. I gotchu boo :P 03:09 \o/ 03:10 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:13 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:16 [hdf-us] [evil] MajiLoggers (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:901 (0:03:33) 03:19 lmaooooo 03:23 The rusted chain breaks free! :-) 03:24 the heavy iron ball is still my best weapon though 03:25 lol, some monster used a cursed figurine and i have a pet satyr now 03:25 there goes petless, i guess... 03:26 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:26 the satyr is kinda badass though so i guess it's okay 03:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:27 [hdf-us] [evil] MajiLoggers (Inf Ith Fem Una) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2813 (0:13:33) 03:27 heh 03:28 there should perhaps be a check on petless for monsters using figurines, but it's funny 03:29 yeah, it got a bit of a giggle from me but if i really cared about petless i would probably be sad 03:30 my satyr has an elven bow and a stack of elven arrows and he's swiss cheesin everyone in minetown 03:30 YANI: For petless heroes, hostile monsters that apply figurines and would create a pet instead create a peaceful monster that specifically grudges them 03:30 Satyr pet is something I would absolutely do 03:31 he doesn't seem to use his flute but he's not bad in melee for early on 03:33 satyr just saved me from gnomish wizards so i like him enough to give him a name now 03:35 yay! 03:36 nice that pet firing arrows actually does damage now 03:36 it seems to be very good, if you cared to manage that sort of thing for your pets 03:37 i can't even be bothered to take care of my own ranged weapons :p 03:37 oh they grab projectiles any time they can 03:37 I had to confiscate them from Dagul regularly 03:38 Yeah pets can like, actually shoot/throw stuff reliably 03:38 even if you have to pick them up again and hand them back over it's a step up 03:38 pets also seem to be obsessed with carrying exorbitant quantities of rocks 03:38 and put them in a bag if they have one 03:39 when i used to run archon pets a lot they would always have a bag full of like 120 rocks hehe 03:39 stupid fucking watch captain opened the zoo in zootown... 03:39 FUCK zootown btw 03:39 [hdf-us] [evil] MajiLoggers (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3292 (0:22:54) 03:40 heh well moloch answered my prayer on the first try, at least 03:40 is less bad if you are invisible and have a ranged option 03:41 aklys + one ring for the win 03:41 okiedokie, mumak, giant anaconda and saber-toothed tiger dead 03:42 if i can kill this priest life will be very nice 03:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Dra Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:12550 (4:03:33) 03:44 "You stab deep into the orcish watchman's heart!" hell yeah 03:47 can you fire horn the priest from outside the temple? 03:48 yeah, though i'm gonna try and get closer so i can bounce the beam 03:48 ray, i should say 03:48 uh 03:48 trust the process :p 03:48 isn't it explode on impact? 03:49 nah, that's fireball spell 03:49 right, been awhile since my last infidel :-) 03:50 nice, bone plate mail from a watch captain 03:50 ooh I'd like that one as draugr 03:50 I think I even ascended with one 03:50 it's real heavy for my weak illithid but i can deal for now 03:50 the AC is just so good 03:52 "the invisible agent of Set steals the amulet of Yendor!" oh fuck offf 03:53 ...and of course when i kill him, the amulet teleports 03:54 wow, the lightning bolt from angry god after i killed the priest left me at 2 HP 03:55 god lightning is no joke yo 03:55 then a crocodile afterward got me to 1 HP :P 03:56 living on the edge 03:56 I said "outside the temple" for a reason ;-) 04:00 god still sends the bolt lol 04:01 the bolt wasn't really a big issue, i got f'd up by the priest beforehand 04:01 i think the lightning damage is surprisingly not so bad? 04:03 hmm 04:03 also re: local game I was yapping about, on my way back to a temple with like two create monster wands and Sting/Orcrist fodder 04:03 i can't find the lightning damage for the life of me on the wiki but that's what my Infallible Loggers Game Sense(tm) tells me 04:03 refused to go into quest without proper melee weapon even though I was like, XL 15 04:04 I was so ready to ride that +4 spear to at least locate though 04:04 i like to get crowned or have reflection before i do the ran quest 04:04 wands wands wands on those centaurs 04:05 ok weird 04:06 when I killed a priest standing outside the temple there was no lightning bolt 04:06 those were never problems 04:07 I got two magic lamps in minetown, both proc'd wishes when I finally blessed them post Soko 04:07 hax wtf 04:07 should be fairly easy to get stormbringer and then you're cookin with gas 04:08 i woulda just farmed on that level for that the second i saw an altar but it's probably more tolerable to wait for cm 04:08 LOL, random secespita drop 04:09 hah 04:09 oh neat, water walking prevents slowing on sewage 04:10 not flying yet? 04:10 nah, what level is that? I'm 9 04:11 no idea, was just curious 04:11 "As you start to lock the mithril chest, your skeleton key breaks!" really, first time I am using the damn thing 04:11 gun to my head it's 12 04:12 Loggers_VIII, there was the whole "didn't get a bunch of create monster shit" problem 04:12 wow, late 04:12 which I only recently solved clearing the Croesus throne room 04:12 Also irc 04:12 haha it is 12 04:12 iirc* 04:12 @e?mind flayer 04:12 mind flayer (h) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 5 | Atk: 1d4 weapon physical, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int | Align: -8 | genocidable, omnivore, flies, seeinvis, infravis 04:12 @?mind flayer 04:12 mind flayer (h) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 5 | Atk: 1d4 weapon physical, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int | Align: -8 | genocidable, omnivore, flies, seeinvis, infravis 04:13 it's 9 for NPC flayers :B 04:13 technically 04:13 umbire: there's actually a command for creating monsters, it's "n500." 04:13 but 12 for hero, yeah 04:13 Loggers_VIII, already filed under "I ain't doin all that shit" 04:13 Ludios at least had the promise of loot 04:14 (which it delivered, if somewhat underwhelmingly) 04:14 n500 is also the command for starving if you don't have slow digestion ;-) 04:14 food already wasn't a problem at that point, but that also involves more wandering and I wanted to feel like I was pressing towards something 04:14 so I figured why not hunt ludios 04:16 the feds don't want you to know you can pray for food every 300 turns if you're a good little piously aligned hero 04:16 actually it might be every 150 turns 04:16 is "skeleton key" pre-known for draugr only I wonder... or is it a convict thing 04:16 hehe that's draugr 04:16 never knew about that 04:17 gnome king's wine cellar, oh boy! can't wait for 6 potions to make me stressed 04:17 whoa smoky booze 04:17 i really wish i could make holy water right now 04:17 "use this gift wisely!" oops can't pray for food = the thing I always fear 04:17 HAX 04:18 I think it's probably worth it to swap my bone plate for a tunic, even though i lose 5 AC 04:18 only with Infidel do I price id scrolls to find remove curse 04:19 often the only way to get holy water 04:19 doesn't the scroll have to be blessed? 04:20 better blessed, but if you have lots of uncursed, wield the potion 04:21 ahhh i see how it works now 04:21 [hdf-us] [evil] MajiLoggers (Inf Ith Fem Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7606 (0:57:47) 04:22 these agent guys are always generating invis, kinda irritating 04:22 that's their mo 04:23 as much as illithid's carrycap is annoying, psionic wave is really really really good 04:24 [hdf-us] [evil] MajiLoggers (Inf Ith Fem Una) murdered Waawashkeshi-Inini, her faithful satyr, on T:7857 (1:00:16) 04:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Dra Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:13036 (4:27:11) 04:24 STUPID FUCKING SATYR PICKED UP MY BAG AFTER I DROPPED IT AND DRANK ALL MY SMOKY BOOZE 04:24 damn drunkard 04:25 ☠☠☠☠☠ 04:25 that is very sad but also extremely funny 04:26 it is so so so funny :P 04:26 shame he didn't get a wish 04:27 she rather 04:27 nah, Evil satyrs are male-only 04:27 (that I'm currently aware) 04:27 right, misread 04:27 yeah Loggers's hero is a gal 04:29 stupid Sting elves didn't drop anything good 04:29 I'm spending a very large percentage of this run with my health in the red 04:29 [hdf-us] [evil] MajiLoggers (Inf Ith Fem Una), 25106 points, T:8741, killed by a dwarf lady 04:30 that reached its natural conclusion :P 04:30 debt got called in 04:30 damn 04:30 i think i'm finally getting a handle on infidel early game 04:30 meanwhile I named Sting and Orcrist already but I'm not sacfesting yet 04:30 gotta use up all this Croesus gold 04:31 i think i've come around on infidel a lot, the only thing that really annoys me is how hard it is to get holy water... 04:31 umbire: nahhh you gotta use it up after you get stormy, drain and regain prot ftw 04:32 no 04:37 I don't do that either, I just take the 9 guaranteed points and don't try for more 04:37 holy water: sometimes you get lucky and a shop sells it 04:51 I'd rather get forever clairvoyance, I'm at like -25 AC as is :B 05:00 i don't really like clairvoyance cuz it can slow you down and the invisible monster markers can be irritating 05:00 but that's kind of a weird personal thing i think 05:03 wtf it's 4am why i am awake 05:03 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:04 Oh man I'm obsessing about D&D so much I'm wondering what evilhack would be like under 5e rules. 05:04 (It would not be good, I expect) 05:12 not a single sac gift (expected) and accidentally used up the last charges on CM wands 05:12 so I pray for water 05:12 no crown either 05:12 bother. 05:16 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Mystes' ghost, the former Initiate, on T:6125 (5:00:54) 05:19 Why did two mosquitos bite me 8 times in one of my turns? 05:20 @e?giant mosquito 05:20 giant mosquito (a) | Lvl: 1 | Diff: 4 | Spd: 20 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 1d1 bite drain con, 1d1 bite physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, flies, oviparous, passes-bars 05:20 20 speed, explains itself mostly 05:20 Is that relatively new? 05:34 nnnnope 05:34 sorted my stormy problem in that local game, think I can call it a night on that 05:37 Umbire: Sleep well! 05:39 you too 05:40 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 05:40 @e?mail daemon 05:40 mail daemon (&) | Lvl: 56 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 24 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 127 | Gen: special | AC: 10 | Atk: none | Align: 0 | flies, swims, breathless, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, infravis 05:41 I wonder if they are possible to kill. 05:42 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:46 It seems that, according to the wiki, they are. 05:47 <@Loggers_VIII> yes, there's an interesting technique to it 05:49 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:55 A bit of a waste of a wish, though. 06:21 Ah, soko. I never know which pile to go for. 06:24 -!- Glasshopper has joined #evilhack 06:27 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:31 i feel it always has to be necklace if you dont have mr 06:32 ... Necklace? 06:32 Evilhack has changed. 06:32 amulet 06:32 Ah, amulet. 06:32 Yeah, but it's 50/50 I get that. Perhaps I should risk it. 06:32 I haven't identified the robes I have, though. 06:32 50% chance of mr when you dont have mr trumps anything else 06:33 you mean cloaks? robes dont give mr. and you can identify a cloak of mr easily 06:33 Ah, yes. :P 06:33 I always forget I can identify MR easily - remind me how? :P 06:33 it is the cloak that doesnt give you protection, displacement, or invisibility 06:33 the apron and slippery cloak already self-id 06:34 the only wrinkle is if you got permanent invis already from a magic trap 06:34 Yeah, I do. 06:34 And I don't have /all/ those cloaks. 06:35 if you dont have permanent invis, you put on a cloak, and nothing happens, it is mr -- dont need any other cloaks 06:35 if you have permanent invis it may be worth magic trapping/ cursed wanding it off 06:36 Hmm, only unidentified cloak I have turns out to be a cursed ornamental cope. 06:36 if it is cursed it is most likely invis (unless found in bones) 06:36 Cloak of protection is identified. 06:36 It was found in bones. 06:37 well, what role was the bones? 06:37 Druid. 06:37 so could be anything. 06:37 Indeed. 06:37 Well, anything except oilskin or protection. 06:37 you could hardfought up the answer if you want. otherwise id dip-uncurse it if you can 06:38 or alchemy 06:38 so 33% chance of mr is totally worth pursuing to the end 06:38 hardfoughting it is boring. 06:38 imo 06:38 Fair, I'll find some fountains. 06:38 dip-uncurse it at the oracle 06:38 Yep. 06:38 assume you can handle the snakes? 06:38 Yes. 06:40 It's not MR. 06:47 Maybe quest levels have MR. 06:48 WTF!? Antimatter vortex! 06:53 I was a bit surprised because not only do I normally melee things, I was actually even forced to do so because it appeared right next to me. 06:56 Ok, found a "dusty cloak" that isn't self-id'ing. 06:57 hopefully antimatter vortex was a changeling 06:57 It was not. There just happened to be a poly trap right next to me. 06:57 yes, if you are visibile and unprotected and put on a cloak and nothing happens, it is mr 06:57 I might zap enlightment to confirm, would dthat show MR? 06:58 yup 06:58 I am "magic-protected". I guess that's MR! 06:58 wonderful! 06:58 now that opens up other sokoban gift options :-) 06:59 So I guess I should probably go for the bag. Or maybe the speed. 06:59 if you have ANY bag but no speed or protection id definitely do the armor 06:59 I don't need the bag, but I mean, 50/50 magic marker. 06:59 and i never worry about the potential marker in the early game 06:59 Armour then. 07:00 Yeah, but there are so few markers in evil. 07:00 basically, if there is an option where both 50/50 chances give you something valuable, that is what you want 07:00 Fair! 07:00 Woah, twig blights! 07:01 cautious, they are inescapable until dead 07:01 Thanks for the tip 07:01 Oh, and a TREE BLIGHT! 07:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:12683 (5:40:43) 07:01 I should've known a dead tree wasn't going to be in that spot. 07:04 I think I'll buy protection now. 07:06 > The centaurian priestess of Huan Ti doesn't want anything to do with you! 07:06 Wah!? 07:06 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:07 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 07:07 How did I anger the priest!? 07:08 what role are you? 07:08 Monk. 07:08 Coaligned, even. 07:09 you have strayed presumably and need to repair your alignment 07:09 Nope. 07:09 if (priest->mflee || (!priest->ispriest && coaligned && strayed)) { 07:09 I've never abused my alignment. 07:09 so it is either mflee or strayed 07:10 I am not sure how I would have strayed. Maybe it's "mflee", what's that? 07:10 is the priest fleeing from something? if not, you strayed 07:10 The priest is on it's altar, because I'm on the magic chest. 07:10 priest location wont matter 07:11 It's weird. 07:11 but if it was scared by an instrument, it would be fleeing 07:11 It's not. 07:11 well, flight has a timer, so if you go away and come back in 200 turns you can be sure it isnt fleeing 07:11 but i would assume you have strayed 07:11 Hmm, if I survive. 07:11 How would I have strayed? 07:11 enlightenment tells you that if i recall 07:12 sacrificing or eating the wrong thing maybe? 07:12 i see you are a chaotic monk, so most likely is eating meats 07:12 I have never eaten meat. 07:13 Ooooooooh, I think I know. 07:13 I've recently converted a different altar. 07:14 converting an altar to your alignment shouldnt be straying 07:14 Hmm, I have one last turn now. hp 5. 07:14 I guess I should perhaps pray... 07:14 are you fighting the priest? 07:14 I'd rather not. 07:15 Priest is fighting me, though. 07:15 why didnt you leave immediately? 07:15 I'm attempting to! 07:15 if the priest hates you then i doubt prayer will work 07:15 However, I'm on the opposite side from teh door. 07:15 I'm not sure I have any other options. 07:16 yeah i would have instantly bugged out, priests are no joke in early times 07:16 is that scroll tp? 07:16 No idea. 07:16 And I'm immediately getting out, that's the whole aim at the moment. 07:16 well, you can try moving nw, which isnt really nearer the door but you dont know how the priest will move 07:16 Not even bothering to lock that chest. 07:16 if he doesnt follow you might be able to escape 07:17 ok cool 07:17 I suspect that was my free move. 07:17 now, anything in the bag? 07:17 well 07:17 you are a monk, so can break boulders 07:17 I also have 5 hp. The boulder would probably kill me. 07:17 so you can do this the daring way or the scaredypants way 07:18 good point 07:19 in my games when i have the chance i always price-id this stuff so i at least have a better guess what might be what 07:19 well, with no certain tricks, i would hope the priest will not pursue 07:19 and move closer to the door 07:19 ok damn 07:19 at this point id try prayer and pray the prayer gives you prayer 07:19 Heh. 07:20 That's promising. 07:20 what a deal 07:20 so you need to survive 2 more rounds if you get your hp back 07:20 God's protecting me from my own damn aligned priest. 07:20 east east north 07:20 good odds 07:21 Damn this is nervewracking. 07:21 one more round of punishment 07:21 you escaped! 07:21 close the door 07:21 :-) 07:21 Un. Bel. iev. able. 07:21 color that room in black and dont go there no more 07:21 It's forever cursed? 07:21 i have no idea 07:22 That chest is unlocked. 07:22 i have never seen a priest do that when you havent severely abused your alignment 07:22 yeah go lock the chest in sokoban 07:22 They are **all** unlocked now? 07:22 yes 07:22 Oh, wow, so locking one then locks them all? 07:22 it is just one chest 07:22 Oh, nice. 07:23 Well. That was... Quite something. 07:23 yeah i would go to sokoban, regroup, lock the chest, use enlightenment again to try to understand what happened 07:24 good job not panicking 07:24 I might use enlightment now - more likely to figure it out that way. 07:24 There you go. I'm piously aligned. 07:24 bad luck times out slowly for you dude 07:24 Yeah, I don't have holy water. 07:24 space 07:25 yeah, ok, i have no idea what happened there 07:25 let me make sure i have the latest code base to source dive 07:25 It's so weird. 07:28 no, that code is accurate. either the priest was fleeing for some reason (which will be resolved the next time you go there due to time), or you strayed, which should have been shown by enlightenment and was not 07:29 So weird. So... What causes fleeing? 07:29 so after visiting sokoban, for science, i would go right back to that temple -- at full health -- and walk adjacent to the priest again, with a clear path out where you wont take additional rounds of damage 07:29 Was it me standing on that chest? 07:29 monsters will flee if you play a horn/bugle/drums and they fail their save, or if you stand on scare monster 07:30 or sometimes if you blind them, etc 07:30 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a helm of speed, on T:14222 (7:15:04) 07:30 nice! that will make escape from the evil priest easier 07:30 Just gotta burn my head first. 07:32 Done, head burnt. 07:33 ok, if this priest kicks your butt again, id ask k2 about this behavior, because im at a loss 07:33 make sure you get adjacent to him with a clear route out 07:33 Well, the priest has just said calming words as I got into the door. 07:33 #chat 07:34 This means it was doing mflee. 07:34 i think so 07:34 What that means is that standing on that chest caused mflee. 07:34 that shouldnt happen 07:34 you can test that again once you have a scroll of tp tho 07:34 were there any closets in the main dungeon? guaranteed tp there 07:35 Yeah, well, the magic key shouldn't be below an actual trap, either. :P But it was a few games ago! 07:35 i think that fix was pushed :-) 07:35 No closets that I've seen so far. Only one identify, too... And that one was on a bones level. 07:35 Yeah, it was. :P 07:35 Well, I need to go get the money again, and then chat again, but this time from a safer spot. 07:35 im suspicious. wait for him to move away from you 07:36 noooo man 07:36 Wot? 07:36 yeah something else is going on 07:36 get the f out 07:36 That's weird, man. 07:37 k2: arahael has a coaligned priest in minetown who kicks his ass even though he has not strayed 07:37 Priest is like, "Yo, here is all beautiful. It's peaceful, dawg. What do you want to talk about? NO GET THE F OUT!" 07:37 yeah i am out of ideas, sorry! 07:37 so when you walked to the chest he was normal 07:37 Yep. 07:38 and then while on the chest he just started crushing you 07:38 what was the last thing you did before he got violent? 07:38 Well, one more thing. I talked to him while he was on the altar. 07:39 clueless -- ive got nothing. glad you didnt die 07:39 I got very very close! :P 07:40 So buying protection is not happening in this game, I guess. Not at least until after the castle, most likely. Or perhaps the ice queen. 07:40 But I dunno if I want to do the ice queen without protection! 07:40 you can buy protection from the ice queen priest without engaging the ice queen 07:41 True, but there's a lot of baddies there. 07:41 and how far down have you gone? there may be other temples 07:41 I think there's only a few more levels before I find medusa. 07:41 -- i dont think protection is very important anyway 07:41 I think protection's important for monks. 07:41 eh 07:42 i mean, i take it, but whatever. one nice piece of dragonhide makes up almost all that 07:42 That's true enough. 07:42 but yeah, if that priest is permanently in that state for whatever reason i dont understand, come back with a dragon pet to eat him for you 07:42 that way you can at least get the artifact out of the altar 07:43