00:09 EvilHack Commits: Druids (giant) carrying boulders will automatically drop them when wi… https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/541086e19b3031d0aef174aef31037eb2aadef50 00:09 EvilHack Commits: Health regeneration for Druids while in wildshape. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/422861bffa32cd9239a9fa775628b7b807ced552 00:22 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Bar Gia Mal Cha) made his first wish - "the blessed master key of thievery", on T:32963 (5:13:56) 00:22 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:32966 (5:14:17) 00:58 EvilHack Commits: Fix: prevent certain attacks from being used while wildshaped verses … https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/526cc8016c5037ecd894495e52c68e70149e0fdd 01:06 -!- Loggers_IX has joined #evilhack 01:06 k2: for some reason 'F'ighting isn't working in wildshape 01:07 I get "you attack thin air" when I attack nothing but when I attack a monster nothing happens 01:07 still takes half a turn on monsters tho 01:07 -!- Loggers_IX has quit [Client Quit] 01:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a sling on an altar, on T:5749 (0:56:55) 01:29 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:29 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 01:32 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Silvanus, on T:59401 (21:05:18) 01:45 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Cha), 18962 points, T:7741, killed by a mastodon, while sleeping 01:52 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:56 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 03:00 -!- Glasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Dru Cen Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (creeping mounds), on T:22166 (14:38:55) 03:10 well worth it 03:27 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 03:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Dru Cen Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:22765 (15:11:00) 03:51 ab mobileuser 03:51 ab Umbire 04:21 uncursed potions of water that don't stack... 04:21 I wonder if krm26 saw the same thing 04:22 both potions show as fully identified 04:22 I just did up all the water potion articles incidentally 04:22 adjust not doing anything I take it 04:22 if not, this might be one of those things where a proofing bit was set or something? 04:28 yeah adjust doesn't work 04:28 I can't check for proofing with identify, they both show as fully identified 04:29 the bit wouldn't show on a fully ID'd potion I don't think 04:30 though I'm just spitballing anyway 04:33 brb 04:37 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:37 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 04:41 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Player_monster_(EvilHack) here's a foundation for the player monster stuff 04:41 I'll have to really get into the meat of it tomorrow, since K2's implementation is way more complex 04:54 only just noticed that finger of death is now an evocation spell 04:54 I wonder how that affects infidels 04:55 the attack spell equivalent is power word: kill 04:55 so I think they'll be fine :B 04:55 right, just reading the commits now 04:57 hmm, deferred the evil playermon stuff for later this week 04:57 but what to do now... 05:02 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:02 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 05:03 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 05:17 mobileuser, yes, ive had a few nonstackable identical stackabale object each of my last few games 05:18 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:18 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 05:35 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:38 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:39 ah good to know krm26. potion of water is a surprising one. 05:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2816 points, T:2287, killed by a dust vortex 05:52 although im most amazed by the two different bronze rings in my current game 05:52 wonder if this has something to do with the fix to item reordering in the compiled data files 05:58 both sustain ability and cold resistance are "bronze" in objects.c 05:58 ^ K2 05:59 well that explains it, two bronze will make two bronze 05:59 gotta change one to hepatizon 06:13 being lazy, id pop a secret #dumpitemhex command in evilhack that let you select an inventory item and would give you every scrap of data associated with it so whenever we found two items that wouldnt stack we could paste the comparisons here 06:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Dru Cen Fem Neu) killed the invisible Baba Yaga, on T:23340 (16:10:24) 06:18 oh my, that was extremelu funny 06:18 * extremely 06:18 also extremelu 06:19 The invisible Baba Yaga zaps a copper wand! The death ray whizzes by you!  The death ray bounces! The invisible Baba Yaga is killed by the death ray! 06:19 first action of Baba Yaga 06:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Dru Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23341 (16:12:37) 06:22 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:24 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 06:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Dru Cen Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:23463 (16:17:33) 06:25 phew 06:25 \o/ 06:30 amazing! and free death wand 06:59 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:01 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Fem Law) had a steel battle-axe entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:33806 (7:22:23) 07:18 ESP, stoning res and taming invoke, I like this QA 07:21 two bronze?? 07:21 WAT!? 07:22 manager! 07:22 but DAAAAAADDDD 07:22 lol 07:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Dru Cen Fem Neu) had a bronze saber entrusted to her by Silvanus, on T:23686 (16:29:47) 07:25 more bronze! 07:26 RNG rubbing it in 07:26 i added the 'fully id'ed but not stacking' bit up on the pad 07:27 do you want to copy my save file? 07:27 sure 07:27 oh I have that weird potion in my magic chest 07:28 ok 07:28 lemme know when ready 07:28 I have saved my game 07:28 or would you like me to get the potion first? 07:28 nope its good 07:28 i have it 07:29 may resume 07:29 nice 07:30 yeah you can easily see what happens in my magic chest, I'm there now 07:38 "The iron safe is empty." heheh 07:38 -!- Tangles has joined #evilhack 07:38 maybe the rock mole one was empty too 07:39 it wasnt 07:39 i tested that, i need to fix it 07:40 ah OK, no need for more SCIENCE then :-) 07:40 SCIENCE 07:41 mobileuser your game i copied, you have the two bronze rings already right? 07:41 or was that krm26 07:42 no that was krm26 07:42 ok 07:42 I was the one with the water :-) 07:42 stacks are mysterious things 07:44 ok i fixed the dbl bronze ring bit 07:44 easy enough 07:44 will prob go for the rock mole iron safe thing next 07:44 stacks issue... ugh 07:46 where is the am_i_stackable comparison code? 07:47 invent.c i think 07:47 EvilHack Commits: Fix: two rings made of bronze. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/e63b5984b153055ee9ceec1550c5bac87b3bf0bc 07:48 i think this issue may have come about since i made inferior/superior/exceptional bitfields 07:48 you check for forged_qual in the comparison 07:48 in mergable 07:49 hmm 07:49 gotta go in 5 min (school drop off) 07:49 did you see commits from last night? 07:49 i never see anything, i need a separate channel that filters just for those :-) 07:57 so k2, bones items can i guess have obj_attach_mid called on them to associate them, line 669 in bones.c -- i havent looked at it carefully, but just having that field set means the item will always fail a merge check 07:57 any time omonst, omid, or olong is set on an object it will no longer merge (even if the value is the same as another object) 07:59 just one possible thing to look at. again, a #hiddendebugextendedcommand that displayed omonst, omid, and olong for an object would rapidly let us confirm or discard this diagnosis. or you can gdb a save if youve got one 08:05 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 08:05 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:06 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Gia Fem Neu) destroyed coplate's ghost, the former Magician, on T:21385 (4:38:06) 08:13 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 08:24 krm26 I haven't had any bones in my game 08:25 well poop on you :-) 08:26 i didnt look any further to see what the other long structures were used for. the one used for naming is processed separately but the others just bong matching 08:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5762 (0:43:07) 08:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Gia Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +3 dragonhide speed boots", on T:25100 (5:26:16) 08:54 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:34893 (5:52:25) 09:00 wow, i have just now figured out that once you are level 3 you can never starve as a druid 09:41 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Fem Law) had a knife entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:34259 (7:44:27) 09:42 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2244 points, T:2030, diseased by an orc zombie, while praying 09:46 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 11803 points, T:6587, killed by a bugbear 09:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1206 points, T:1513, killed by a bolt of cold 09:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Gia Fem Neu) had a staff of healing entrusted to her by Silvanus, on T:30440 (6:30:51) 10:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Gia Fem Neu) had a scimitar entrusted to her by Silvanus, on T:31467 (6:35:03) 10:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Gia Fem Neu) had a magenta spellbook given to her by Silvanus, on T:32759 (6:46:54) 10:15 thx, i'll be able to learn that spellbook of cancellation in another 100k turns, even though i will never be able to cast it 10:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Gia Fem Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon her by Silvanus, on T:33183 (6:49:01) 10:17 ooooh i can harbinger! 10:19 lies 10:22 was there some change to autounlocking, or am i experiencing a new bug? got a bone chest that the magic key doesnt wanna autounlock for me 10:22 l -> "It is locked. In what direction?" 10:23 is there a pet next to you? 10:23 no sir 10:24 there is grass next to me. maybe pet grass? 10:24 -!- Loggers_IX has joined #evilhack 10:31 yani: create pool spell 10:32 can you guess what it does 10:32 i am gonna obtain it and fill the entire level with pools of grease 10:32 and light them on fire 10:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Gia Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Silvanus, on T:35602 (7:08:54) 10:37 omigod 10:37 harbinger + purity 10:38 krm26 I got a bones from you where you killed the minetown priest, where's my prot man :P 10:38 that poor tortle didn't deserve it 10:38 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:38 that wasnt me 10:38 that was the jerk i got the level from 10:38 haha nevermind then 10:38 it had 37 kops in it too 10:39 3. 7. 10:39 and the shopkeeper he robbed had collected all his gear, so i got nothing 10:39 was the worst bones ever 10:39 got a bag of holding and a unihorn out of it so i'm ok with it 10:40 yeah those were MINE tho :-) 10:41 ah well thanks then :) 10:41 any time! 10:42 lol 10:43 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:43 in hackem/slashem, monsters can cast create pool and drown you, fun! 10:44 I just think it would be neat for druids to get more chances to use their drowning forms 10:45 and tortles to get a funny escape option 10:47 man I really want stoneskin 10:47 I got it once and it was really good 10:54 krm26 i logged your comments on the pad (stacking bug) 10:54 I have to say barkskin is already amazing Loggers_IX 10:55 makes a big difference in the early game 11:00 mobileuser: yeah, barkskin is by far my favorite druid starting spell 11:01 create grass is pretty laughable in comparison and i'm not really a pet person so summon woodland creature isn't my jam 11:01 summon woodland creature is very good if you grind evocation out to expert early, though 11:01 ...3rd barkskin spellbook of my game, no stoneskin. I'm being mocked :P 11:02 create grass just eats my mana...which i had barkskin 11:03 yeah level 3 is too high, I think it'd be more suitable as level 1 11:03 level 2 maybe 11:03 my druids take a while to greenify a whole level :p 11:03 got a staff of evocation early, but still my only two spells are grass and entangle :-) 11:04 but, since i got keolewa + dragonbane i cant complain! 11:04 I really think there should be some mechanism that makes you more likely to encounter role-specific spells 11:04 keolewa? for harbinger? 11:04 fun fact keolewa's damage bonus is actually worse than a regular club of lightning 11:05 howso? 11:05 keolewa is a lot better than werebane anyway 11:06 club of lightning = +1d7 shock damage 11:06 keolewa = +1d6 shock damage 11:06 hah 11:07 silvanus gave me frost brand, I think dichotomy is in the cards 11:07 yup, the new way of the world is half a forged artifact + a wish 11:07 elron's last asc enters chat 11:07 <@hackemslashem> Loggers_IX: I believe props give 3 + d5 damage, which is quite a bit better than d7 11:07 it's an interesting meta 11:08 hahaha you are right hackemslashem 11:08 I don't know where I got 1d7 from... 11:09 in any case, that makes keolewa even funnier 11:09 <@hackemslashem> I guess it's an average of 4 vs 6, maybe not huge but still over time it adds up 11:09 ive got a lamp i can squeeze for a 50% wish, i wonder if i should try for grayswandir or giantbane at this point in the game... 11:10 I would do giantbane probably 11:10 for me offense > defense usually in evil 11:10 well, there is a 2% chance i could still find another altar and get giantbane 11:10 and purity lets me charm dragons 11:11 which are pretty good offense 11:11 ah right I hadn't factored pets 11:12 wait, are you druid krm26? 11:12 yup 11:12 purity = no casting for druid right? 11:12 gdammit, i keep forgetting that 11:12 that is so irritiating 11:12 ain't it tho? :P 11:12 i want purity so much 11:13 my druids are so funny after casting finger of death they have to wait 5 business days before they can do it again 11:14 even at 9 mistletoe? 11:14 i havent gotten to see the regen changes yet 11:15 i guess i should get giantbane, since im a giant 11:15 oh I think harbinger hates giants 11:16 wut 11:16 yup it does 11:16 i think that means you can't wield it..? 11:16 I'm not sure 11:16 how many mistletoe do you have right now Loggers_IX 11:16 so im sitting here at a wish prompt and im totally f*cked 11:17 I have my starting mistletoe B) 11:17 here i was so happy to get these artifacts, but they were just more junk, and now ive wasted a wish 11:17 gonna have a bunch soon cuz i'll be at quest 11:17 bah 11:17 so I will report back on the regen rate of 9 mistletoe 11:17 why in hell does harbinger hate giants 11:17 yeah giants cant wield harbinger, it carries over bane props from giantslayer 11:18 this was all in the commit 11:18 alright, just gonna let neferet the fing green kill me i guess 11:18 besides, giants dont need it. toss boulders 11:18 uh boulders do not compare to acid explosion aklys 11:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Gia Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:35761 (7:50:22) 11:19 k2 the mistletoe in inventory have to be one stack right? 11:19 Loggers_IX having 9 or more mistletoe will double your normal power regen 11:19 and yes they do 11:19 yep i'm running down to the quest to try and stack some up as we speak 11:19 its not as good as EotA regen but its pretty close 11:19 no trees early on and no create trees :< 11:19 it's nice that the quest has a billion trees tho 11:20 did you all see the commits from last night 11:20 oh actually I will do sokoban first, I forgot it existed 11:20 and krm26 dont quit/let yourself die 11:20 and I have only an amulet of guarding 11:20 I saw the vecna hand thing 11:20 go look 11:20 and the wildshape regen 11:21 which I have noticed, much more manageable 11:21 oh neferet will definitely kill me, i have no mr 11:21 omg protection against lethal attacks in wildshape 11:21 you da man k2 11:22 krm26: yeah neferet is majorly fucked 11:22 he took me down to 3 strength, which apparently is too low to wildshape 11:23 did you escape at least? 11:23 i mean, im not dead yet, but i am guaranteed dead 11:23 cursed my shit, cancelled my stuff, fried my stats 11:24 3 str no wildshape i'll probably die to a wolf or something soon 11:24 got a prayer for restore ability? 11:24 stupid asshat harbinger crap 11:29 I feel like you could've probably made a different wish but genuinely idk 11:29 i guess there could have been a more efficient quest nemesis to die to 11:42 dragonhide speed boots maybe idk 11:43 was already wearing em 11:44 but neferet canceled them for me, which was nice 11:45 amulet of MR, upgrade to EotA at a later point? 11:46 i dont see how that kills me 11:49  omg a book of extra healing 11:49 <@Loggers_VIII> this is the run 11:49 <@Loggers_VIII> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204191497331810338/1338552523350347816/IMG_7419.jpg?ex=67ab7fae&is=67aa2e2e&hm=3632ab4e03400223f59318104b9508c98b8d2322d1b083b80a19971bd9ebdc98& 11:56 oh nice, aphrodite 11:56 i'll probably get a bunch of mistletoe before the quest with this 11:58 not sure why keolewa seems to do 2-3 damage per round to creeping mounds 11:59 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (erbium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 11:59 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:02 Aphrodite has netted me 33 apples, 15 bananas, 27 eucalyptus leaves, 35 oranges, 28 pears and 4 mistletoe 12:02 just a little more for that sweet 9 mistletoe... 12:02 krm26: just bad rolls I guess, they're not shock resistance 12:05 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 12:06 what level do druids hit 3rd tier shapes? 14? 12:07 15 I think 12:07 midgame druids got hit pretty hard by that threshold change 12:08 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:14 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:14 I am tentatively impressed with my 9-mistletoe regen 12:20 You see here an uncursed locked iron safe containing 6 items (972 aum). 12:20 There is an uncursed locked iron safe containing 6 items (972 aum) here; eat it? [ynq] (n) y 12:20 Its contents fall out. This iron safe is delicious! 12:20 I think grizzly bear/cave lizard are probably the best melee forms until tier 3 12:21 more damage from grizzly bear but cave lizard jumps 12:21 3rd tier is exp lvl 14 12:21 4th tier is now exp lvl 20 12:21 it goes 3/8/14/20 12:21 grizzly bear is substantially better for straight damage; otherwise cave lizard for infravision, jumping, and laying eggs 12:22 cave lizards can crawl on ceilings too 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:1631 (0:07:54) 12:23 ancient pseudodragon is by far the best but its damage falls of realllll quick past mines 12:23 *the best for a bit 12:23 in case anyone was wondering, there was a ho-ho in the iron safe I ate 12:24 brb food time 12:24 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of bronze gauntlets of power entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:1844 (0:09:25) 12:25 ooh thats nice 12:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Gia Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:39010 (8:57:44) 12:27 k2 I think if you go out of wildshape because you stayed in it until it ran out, you should get the short timeout as if you had gone out on purpose 12:28 if you stay in wildshape until it runs out, there is no more timer 12:28 durrrr 12:28 why do I have to wait 1.5k turns now that I ran out then :P 12:29 no timeout does sound logical though 12:30 oh right 12:30 nevermind 12:30 how much have you abused your alignment 12:30 because if you hadnt, the time between running out normally and when you could do it again would be very short 12:30 or there wouldnt be any lag at all 12:30 I killed one shopkeeper I think 12:31 hah yeah that'll do it 12:31 I guess I'll put a stop msg for the "you're boutta go back to original form" so I can revert manually before it happens 12:32 O M G 12:32 lol 12:32 I won't stop killing shopkeepers  :P 12:32 players will find a way 12:32 they annoy me 12:32 to game the system 12:33 tbh I might start paying attention to alignment now 12:33 a lot more incentive to in this version 12:34 for some reason I thought that centaurs were chaotic so that's why I didn't mind killing a shk 12:34 thought the penalty would be negligible 12:34 they can be neutral or chaotic 12:34 ahhh makes sense 12:35 man I want an attack spell so cubes are less scary 12:36 ...well, I have acid blast, but it's uncastable (same with fod for now) 12:38 must be nice to have more than your starting spells 12:38 ok brb food for real 12:40 krm26: you'll hate to hear this, I have standard healing now too 12:40 pw-efficient!! 12:43 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:4381 (0:28:44) 12:46 i dont hate it, it is good that the universe is balanced 12:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Gia Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:40001 (9:18:00) 12:46 like giving me reflection to go with my dragonbane 12:48 you are indeed a martyr 12:48 my strategy for runs like that is to die and then start another one where I hope for better luck 12:49 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4947 (0:34:13) 12:50 i tried, i summoned neferet 12:51 ah well, got him boulder trapped, i can aklys him down to about 30 hp but then he starts to heal himself and i cant outdamage his healing 12:53 in fact, he will heal every round that i hit him apparently 12:54 autoboulderdrop on wildshape is a great fix 13:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 393 points, T:1019, killed by a bolt of lightning 13:05 k2: if you have multiple stacks of boulders, wildshaping only drops one of them 13:09 o great spirit please send me a bountiful harvest of wraiths so that I may reach level 14 in good health miigwech minwendaam 13:10 huh, I think tiger might be better than grizzly bear for damage? 13:10 very slightly 13:10 no 13:11 vice versa 13:11 @e?tiger 13:11 tiger (f) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 6 | Atk: 2d4 claw physical, 2d4 claw physical, 1d10 bite physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, infravis 13:11 @e?grizzly bear 13:11 grizzly bear (q) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 9 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 6 | Atk: 1d8 claw physical, 1d8 claw physical, 2d6 bite physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, omnivore, thick hide, infravis 13:12 4d4,1d10 vs 2d8,2d6+thick hide 13:12 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7855 (0:57:26) 13:12 oh yeah you average .5 more damage as a grizzly 13:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 1262 points, T:2027, killed by a mountain dwarf 13:13 2-8 2-8 1-10 vs. 1-8 1-8 2-12 13:13 yeah the grizz edges here 13:13 they are both squishy as heck unfortunately 13:14 avg 2d4 is 5, avg 1d10 is 5.5 so 15.5 for tiger, avg 1d8 is 4.5 and avg 2d6 is 7 so 16 for bear 13:17 -!- Loggers_IX has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:17 -!- Loggers_IX has joined #evilhack 13:17 that's weird, bite attacks don't activate against someone engulfing you 13:20 well what's engulfing you 13:20 is it an e-vortex or something that would be bad to bite 13:20 iirc K2 recently committed auto-suppression for certain contact attacks in situations 13:21 like that 13:21 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:22 nope, mound 13:22 and this was happening before that anyway 13:22 just forgot to mention 13:22 ah 13:23 @e?creeping mound 13:23 creeping mound ({) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire cold sleep poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: dungeons | AC: 0 | Atk: 2d4 claw physical, 2d6 engulf wrap | Align: 0 | genocidable, omnivore, breathless, mindless, vegan 13:23 just double checking for passives 13:25 fire horns are so good, took 3 shots to boom baba 13:27 skeletons are really a pain without wildshape when your only offense is frost brand 13:27 did you suppress livelogging for yourself Loggers_IX 13:28 oh speaking of K2, I wanted to consult re: player monster generation and kits 13:28 -!- Loggers_IX has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:28 both for articles and because you said you'd fixed something related to it recently off the back of me finding out that SLASH'EM stuff 13:30 -!- Loggers_IX has joined #evilhack 13:30 oh yes I did let me undo that 13:30 -!- Loggers_IX is now known as fionnuala 13:30 !setmintc 0 13:30 fionnuala: [hdf-au][hdf-us][hdf-eu] Min reported turncount for fionnuala set to 0 13:30 -!- fionnuala is now known as Loggers_IX 13:30 are you sneakily playing centaur like me and you don't want me to know how far you got ;-) 13:31 hmmmmmmmmmmmm no comment no comment 13:31 don't worry I will lose 13:32 11:49 <@Loggers_VIII> this is the run 13:32 I say that all the time :P 13:32 lol 13:32 giant will still be available after neferet kills me 13:33 dunno what i'm gonna do about vecna 13:33 Kathryn is gonna get dichotomy'd 13:33 no broadsword skill for druid 13:34 or did you unlock that somehow 13:34 oh shit I thought I was chaotic still 13:34 uh 13:35 the penalty for unskilled isn't THAT bad right?? 13:35 it's a lot of misses 13:35 wtf is my offense gonna be 13:35 burn two wishes for harbinger??? 13:35 that unironically might be the play 13:36 I wished for Grayswandir to get that sorted 13:37 aha nice idea 13:37 I think if I can manage to get either harbinger component gifted I will do that and otherwise grayswandir is the optimal play 13:38 I have a lot of altars this game, maybe harbinger is in my future 13:38 -!- Loggers_IX has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:41 you can have my stupid harbinger component 13:41 cant believe how briefly happy i was, what a moron, to get keolewa and dragonbane 13:44 hmm 13:44 my mistletoe keeps disappearing. does something steal/eat it off me? 13:49 K2 thanks for the rock mole fix! 13:50 [hdf-us] [evil] LiamTheDruid (Dru Trt Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a giant hawk, on T:5265 (0:32:33) 13:50 [hdf-us] [evil] LiamTheDruid (Dru Trt Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5266 (0:32:39) 13:55 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 13:55 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:57 it is amazing how fast rock moles fill up eating rock 13:59 nobody else has experienced this? im running around with mistletoe and then the next thing i notice it is gone... 14:00 seems like i have a stack of buc-identified mistletoe and a new piece i picked up, and then the next time i look i just have the new piece 14:00 am i going crazy 14:00 i've found like 7 mistletoe this game, eaten none, noticed no messages of it ever being stolen, and have exactly 1 in inventory 14:01 I haven't noticed this 14:01 still have my 9 14:01 bbl, food time 14:17 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 14:20 -!- Loggers_IX has joined #evilhack 14:21 I think you are in fact going crazy krm26 14:22 I have not noticed this 14:23 [hdf-us] [evil] fionnuala (Dru Cen Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Silvanus, on T:20877 (2:38:59) 14:23 well, I'm not gonna complain about that :3 14:24 ...gimme keolewa or giantbane next tho 14:24 111 HP, -42 AC with barkskin, all elemental resistances + acid res + reflection + MR - this run is going swimmingly 14:32 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 14:39 centaurs are kinda bad druids for casting, wis max of 14 14:40 [hdf-us] [evil] fionnuala (Dru Cen Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:23364 (2:56:07) 14:44 [hdf-us] [evil] fionnuala (Dru Cen Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:23627 (3:00:36) 14:53 mobileuser o/ 14:53 its not live yet 14:53 still some more tweaks to do 14:54 krm26 I tested having a stack of boulders in inv as a giant druid and then wildshaping, it dropped the whole stack at once 14:56 he mentioned his issues was with multiple stacks 14:56 like say a few of 'em got cursed or w/e 14:57 hmm 14:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 911 points, T:1935, killed by a bolt of cold 14:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 616 points, T:1277, killed by an air elemental of Raijin 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] fionnuala (Dru Cen Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "giantslayer", on T:24899 (3:12:57) 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] fionnuala (Dru Cen Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 keolewa", on T:24899 (3:13:05) 15:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1873 (0:13:27) 15:21 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:21 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 15:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3666 (0:24:30) 15:30 it just occurred to me that giant caveman gets punished twice now 15:30 they can't multishot with sling and they can't use harbinger 15:31 (and before you diss slings, a caveman multishotting sling bullets is pretty effective) 15:36 why can't they multishot? 15:37 giants in general can't into slings iirc 15:39 oh David and Goliath reference? 15:42 ye 15:42 and they take more damage from sling bullets iirc 15:42 or any slung projectiles, but don't quote me 15:46 [hdf-us] [evil] fionnuala (Dru Cen Fem Neu) used a forge to create Harbinger, on T:26741 (3:23:16) 15:47 what is the damage bonus on harbinger exactly? 15:47 also what's explosion dice 15:48 6d6 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] fionnuala (Dru Cen Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible lacca's ghost, the former Heathen, on T:26944 (3:25:58) 15:50 for both? nice 15:50 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:50 +1d8 for to-hit and damage iirc? 15:56 EvilHack Commits: Fix: contents of a metal container would be consumed along with the c… https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/e82a6484129ad663f0f860a46053138fda102807 15:58 Umbire yeah check artilist.h 15:58 i see why there's no feedback on biting in polyform if engulfed 15:58 I know, I remember from when I checked it to do up the article 15:58 didn't know the acid explosion damage though, that's good to add 15:59 see artifact.c 15:59 https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Harbinger&diff=183696&oldid=183356 15:59 also Umbire, the player monster article for evilhack on the wiki, this bit 'Player monsters are defined separately from how the actual player character is defined in monst.c,' is not true 15:59 it used to be many moons ago 16:00 but qt and I fixed that a long time ago 16:00 mainly qt 16:00 aye, will slip that bit out then 16:00 brb 16:00 what else 16:00 ah 16:00 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/artifact.c#L2210 there's the explosion dice 16:01 spotted the chance nearby too 16:02 i'm gonna have to get a second weapon for when this shitass aklys doesn't want to return 16:03 whichever vanilla dev introduced this, will burn 16:03 [hdf-us] [evil] fionnuala (Dru Cen Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:27871 (3:38:44) 16:07 -!- Loggers_IX has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:09 k2, yes, it was multiple stacks of boulders. only drops the first 16:10 also, given so many environments with so many trees, would be nice if kicking/nudging a "farmed" tree at least occasionally gave you some "move along, dumbass" feedback to let you know it had already been harvested 16:13 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 16:13 krm26 https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack#L46 16:18 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (mind flayers), on T:18 (0:00:36) 16:19 i appreciate you putting up with how repetitive i am about everything, i apologize that im always so distracted/inattentive/forgetful 16:22 <3 16:22 i dont want to have to recite vogon poetry, but I will if I have to 16:24 i also think druids shouldnt be able to remove melded armor 16:25 not sure what purpose that serves really, and it kinda violates the cosmetics of the mechanic 16:25 why not? they cant put it back on unless the return to original form 16:25 p;lus, dumb people like me will accidentally do it all the time 16:25 but the argument that will carry water with you: it makes no sense given the mechanic. they are melded into the form. you want them off, unwildshape 16:26 for ME, it is because i always forget im in wildshape and decide to swap something, and then have to unwildshape and wait around like an idiot 16:26 hmm 16:26 but i think it also makes sense 16:26 ahem 16:26 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:26 * K2 clears his throat 16:26 Oh freddled gruntbuggly, 16:26 Thy micturations are to me 16:26 As plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee. 16:27 shall I continue? 16:27 ive been inocculated by alice in wonderland, vogon poetry cant effect me 16:27 twas brillig and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe 16:27 Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes, 16:27 And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles, 16:27 Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts 16:27 With my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't! 16:27 all mimsy were the borogroves, and the mome raths outgrabe 16:28 this is why vaccines are important 16:28 meanwhile you've probably killed poor umbire 16:28 Bleem miserable venchit! Bleem 16:28 forever mestinglish asunder frapt. 16:28 Gashee morphousite, 16:28 thou expungiest quoopisk! 16:29 relent, or I shall utter the final verse 16:29 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 16:29 ? 16:29 Fripping lyshus wimbgunts, 16:29 awhilst moongrovenly kormzibs. 16:29 Gerond withoutitude form into formless bloit, 16:29 why not then? Moose. 16:30 maybe i should retaliate with the poetry of paula nancy millstone jennings 16:30 hah 16:30 * Umbire shrugs, goes back to AFK 16:30 Umbire lives 16:31 it is funny he had to change that name 16:31 after the actual paul complained 16:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Wiz Dro Mal Cha), 17559 points, T:10294, killed by a soldier ant 16:33 oh really? i didnt know 16:33 yeah, adams used the name of some kid he didnt like from school or something i think 16:33 and the guy got pissed and they changed the name in later printings 16:33 seems crazy, guy shoulda been thrilled to be immortalized as worse than the vogons 16:34 ah well 16:35 now, do you actually have that memorized? cuz if so, kudos to you, sir 16:35 oh hell no 16:35 EvilHack Commits: Fix: all druid form bite attacks were suppressed when engulfed. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/a0e55317a207dcca5cf341844b409e013c4a3adb 16:36 i shamelessly copy/pasted from a douglas adams fan site 16:38 im always amazed at how much poetry (and play text) i still have memorized from like 40 years ago, given that i forget everything that happened last week instantly 16:38 i still know pretty much the complete texts to at least 4 gilbert & sullivan operettas, but you have to tell me about your druid commits at least 3 times 16:40 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Yeshua's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2049 (0:22:28) 16:40 heh 16:41 just make this a favorite in your browser https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commits/master/ 16:41 and check it daily heh 16:46 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 17:04 none of today's commits are live yet 17:04 !who 17:04 K2: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 17:04 oh 17:05 want me gone 17:05 im out 17:05 in just a min 17:06 krm26 go ahead and save real quick 17:07 !who 17:07 K2: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] dingotron [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 17:07 bah 17:08 dingotrooooon 17:08 !whereis dingotron 17:08 K2: [hdf-us] dingotron [evil]: (Con Hob Fem Cha) T:33279 The Dungeons of Doom level: 29 17:08 wait he's on 0.8.4 still i think 17:08 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 17:08 yup 17:08 ok patched 17:09 go forth and smite krm26 17:11 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:14 cool. but first, must cook for girls 17:15 heh 17:27 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Dru Hum Fem Neu) killed Baba Yaga, on T:28087 (6:54:15) 17:27 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Dru Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28090 (6:54:18) 17:29 bouquet dont forget to collect mistletoe now 17:29 how? 17:29 kicking trees or is it a drop? 17:29 kick tree 17:29 dont worry its ok as a druid 17:30 ah! I thought it might be verboten 17:30 dont kill trees, thats bad 17:30 do I regen health faster if I'm on grass? 17:30 kicking is ok 17:30 yes 17:30 or next to a live tree 17:31 nice 17:32 what's mistletoe good for? Magic toe missles? 17:33 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/8f0283929a1cacd7731de7212cf9c48948c96226 17:33 ^ 4 days ago 17:35 cool. I should just subscribe to your commit feed 17:36 :) 17:36 can you only nudge a tree successfully once and then it's spent? Or can you shake it forever? 17:38 one fruit falls once that's it. same as vanilla 17:38 you can kick it again to get bees if you want 17:40 thanks. I rarely kick trees. Usually only as a knight to get horse chow 17:42 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha) killed Lolth, on T:78476 (1 day, 20:54:52) 17:46 <@Loggers_VIII> do druids get in trouble if they destroy a dead tree? 17:46 tree blights that turn to dead trees and block my path... is it ok to chop them down? 17:46 yup 17:46 jinx 17:46 lame 17:46 dead tree is dead 17:46 can chop it, burn it, kick it down 17:49 didn't know dead trees could be kicked down. So far I'm just hurting myself and summoning bugs/ravens 17:49 small chance kicking a dead tree destroys it 17:49 fastest way is to chop/burn it 17:59 -!- Loggers_IX has joined #evilhack 18:04 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 18:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:78758 (1 day, 21:22:59) 18:14 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 18:19 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:24 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Gia Fem Neu) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Silvanus, on T:49259 (11:42:27) 18:40 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:44 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:44 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 18:50 -!- Loggers_IX has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Gia Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Silvanus, on T:51283 (12:03:37) 18:56 s i g h 18:57 sacrificing at altars is just endlessly disappointing these days 18:57 \o/ 18:57 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:57 mjollnir is good 18:57 i should probably just stop 18:58 ok bud 18:58 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 18:58 sure chief 18:59 <@Loggers_VIII> mjollnir is fucking awesome 18:59 <@Loggers_VIII> ascended a priest with that as my main weapon 18:59 <@Loggers_VIII> obliterates Rodney 19:00 was just hoping against hope for magicbane so i would have mr. now ive got nothing to do but sit around in the upper dungeon for another 100k turns hoping to get an amulet of mr randomly 19:01 i guess if i can somehow get 25 str (i cant) i might be able to throw mjollnir enough to kill neferet, although probably i wouldnt 19:03 sigh 19:03 the frustrating thing is how long it is taking me to die, i might be another full day at it 19:03 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 19:03 2 tinning kit death drops within 3 mobs in goblin town 19:04 Tell me a creeping mold is behind the next corner, without telling me xd 19:04 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M8szlSa-8o 19:04 im gonna lose my entangle spell eventually and then have no spells :-/ 19:04 Why? 19:04 <@Loggers_VIII> you can’t throw mjollnir and have it come back unless you’re valk 19:04 just cast it periodically 19:05 <@Loggers_VIII> k2 does the ‘cast periodically thing’ scale with spell level? like, will I need to cast finger of death less than healing to keep it memorized? 19:05 it scales with your int/wis 19:06 <@Loggers_VIII> tbh even with spells I cast a lot I still end up forgetting them with the casting memory thing 19:06 <@Loggers_VIII> they do last longer at least 19:06 yeah i can never cast enough to keep anything 19:06 <@Loggers_VIII> it kinda requires you to just always cast them even out of combat or scenarios where the utility is valuable and I can’t be arsed :p 19:07 if you dont have slow digestion it also helps you starve to death 19:07 and if you dont have regeneration -- again, my mistletoe has vanished with no message btw... 19:07 that is 7 mistletoe so far that just vanish out of my inventory this game 19:08 is it rotting or something? 19:08 it shouldnt 19:08 it can burn though 19:08 you walking over lava 19:08 ? 19:08 nope 19:08 but i have occasionally seen red naga. i wouldnt think that many times, but i guess it isnt impossible 19:08 i'll put it down to that for now 19:08 although why it would always be chosing the mistletoe 19:09 or just from environment, not from fire blasts? 19:09 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/5b8e189ab8bfdc712de0b90df6a5659db3443fa2 19:09 because my unihorn has never been touched 19:09 ^ remmebering spells as you cast 19:09 *remembering 19:10 krm26 i will fire up a test game and see 19:10 i wish neferet would just starve to death in his boulder prison 19:10 also manually check inventory 19:10 that would turn my game around 19:11 you like to use curses and i'm kinda suspect of perm_invent 19:11 no, they are really gone 19:11 i have found myself myseriously mistletoeless 5 times now, and 3 other times ive had two stacks and then just one 19:11 started keeping a tally 19:12 never walked over lava (although i should, put me out of my misery) 19:12 scroll of fire? fire trap? 19:12 hit with fire? 19:12 the only yes is i have been zapped with a wand of fire once, and breathed on by a red naga a few times 19:12 although i had dragonbane on for some of those 19:13 so my test game, i am 11k turns in, mistletoe is still there 19:13 could something have stolen it? nymph? 19:14 nope 19:14 i'll put a mistletoe stop message in my rc 19:14 and we'll find out exactly how im being stupid -- assuming i ever find any more mistletoe, since i cant fight tree blights in the quest without dying 19:15 34k turns in, mistletoe still present 19:15 they are definitely not rotting away 19:16 are these mistletoe you gathered from a tree? 19:16 all but the one i started with 19:17 dont sweat it, i'll come with a revelatory story about my incompetence when my stop message next triggers 19:19 extra 23k turns with mistletoe I got from a tree. still there 19:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3766 (0:20:52) 19:20 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:21 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 19:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2106 (1:00:06) 19:24 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 19:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 12666 points, T:4901, killed by an invisible horse 19:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 24 points, T:31, killed by a fox, while praying 19:27 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:33 i may have figured out a way for the player to eat grass 19:33 testing hah 19:35 i assume entangle will piss off these damn friendly npcs who get in my way trying to kite a tree blight 19:36 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:80370 (1 day, 22:11:16) 19:36 killing a tree blight with boulders is bad, leaving the boulders inaccessible on the dead tree 19:37 < "Burrrrp!" The invisible Vlad the Impaler is destroyed! > 19:37 burn the tree 19:37 Is I think one of the funnest things in evilhack 19:37 i cant, i already got reamed out for accidentally burning one tree on 19:37 there is no way to burn without collateral good tree damage 19:37 there is 19:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:80371 (1 day, 22:12:41) 19:38 you just dont have the means possibly 19:38 you mean like with firebrand or burning hands or something? 19:38 burning hands 19:38 BH and forcefight the tree 19:38 yeah is is turn 52k and i have entangle and create grass, just like on turn 1 19:38 what? 19:38 ^ 19:39 you're 52k turns in and you havent found any other spells? 19:39 sorry, i have blessed cancellation and some unidentified level 4/5 books i cant successfully read and couldnt cast if i could read 19:39 and force bolt! 19:40 but my spellbooks are about out for entangle/grass, so i will eventually be spelless :-) 19:40 the druid quest altar is going to be more challenging than most to sacrifice on given what generates here 19:41 fb is good 19:41 omg this worked 19:41 There is some grass here; eat it? [ynq] (n) y 19:41 You eat the grass. This is delicious! 19:41 is force bolt ever any good for non-wizards except to break drawbridges and bars? 19:42 yes it is 19:42 esp for those that can get above basic in attack spells 19:42 hah, cant even get to basic 19:42 it still has utility 19:43 and could maybe save your life in a pinch 19:43 maybe 'You eat some grass.' would be better? 19:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4906 points, T:4572, poisoned by a human zombie 19:44 im not sure how it could save me life, presumably my hammer will always do more damage 19:45 i dunno krm26 19:46 lately you've not just been 'glass half empty' but 'glass is empty, cat pushed it off the table, fell onto my foot, both are broken' 19:46 :/ 19:46 and yet you consistiently ascend 19:46 i dont get it 19:48 i blame you :-) it used to be when i was trying to polish a turd that couldnt get any spells to cast or any mandatory resistances or whatever i could happily fritter away my time at an altar. now i got nothin to do but whine in #evilhack :-) 19:48 errmahgerd 19:49 :P 19:49 im not even joking! for me, it is a lot more frustrating to run in circles without any clear goal but "maybe random loot will save me" then to say, "ok, eventually i can squeeze magicbane out of this altar and it will be all better" 19:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 704 points, T:1044, killed by a giant leech 19:51 like, eventually a chameleon will arch lich me and i will die or something like that, but failing that im careful enough im unlikely to die. but there is also nothing i can do to become more robust and advance 19:51 anyway, bragging about my bad luck is my new altar camping i guess! 19:52 i blame myself 19:52 i made all these cool forged artifacts and it was too easy to make them 19:53 a bit unbalancing 19:53 i agree, if you recall way back when i expressed my concerns about that 19:53 they were a lot of fun while they lasted tho 19:53 well they still are 19:53 just a bit more work to get them 19:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:814 (0:03:16) 19:53 elron was making artifacts left and right his last game 19:53 well, you can have any one of your choice, and if you are lucky, maybe 2, which isnt bad 19:54 having an altar with every single quest level will help a bit 19:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 751 points, T:1043, killed by a piranha 19:54 not individual level 19:54 but your fix for forging had another effect, which is that you've removed some clear routes forward ignoring forging 19:55 yeah, but I was doing it 'cause I could, not 'cause I needed them (or because things became unbalanced) 19:55 elron: Message from K2 at 2025-02-08 20:30 EST: congrats on the druid ascension! \o/ 19:55 just 'every quest regardless of role will have at least one altar' 19:55 by for example not being able to pump for magicbane to use temporarily until a better mr source comes along 19:55 elron heh 19:55 'because he could, not becuase he needed them' 19:55 krm26 is gonan kill you 19:55 oh i forged crap just because i wanted to ascend with it in my bags all the time 19:56 right on krm26 19:56 kind of a 'completionist' thing 19:56 my problem is i enjoy literally all the other interstitial minigames more than the ascending minigame :-) 19:57 like if a ring with an intrinsic is edible, i like wasting 20k turns getting 10 of them to xorn up. i'd do that for something stupid and useless like food detection 19:57 if i could 19:58 anyway i'll just be quiet on the crap run until something eventually kills me 19:58 thanks K2 re the ascension (it got hairy at the end -- my fault more than anything else). If no one's told you lately -- big kudos on the Druid. A fantastic add to the game. 19:59 thanks I appreciate that 19:59 krm26 nooo dont be quiet 20:00 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 32790 points, T:11356, quit 20:03 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:642 (0:02:48) 20:04 EvilHack Commits: Player can eat grass if polymorphed into an herbivore. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/be08ed935e65bc135adf11dda75ff17b807e620e 20:05 \o/ 20:05 bwahahah 20:05 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1146 (0:05:29) 20:06 but you gotta regurgitate it as cud to be re-chewed, right? 20:07 yeah 20:07 its right there in the code 20:07 you have swallow at least 2 loadstones 20:07 k2, monsters fill up the right side of the druid quest level outside the glade, and when you kick trees they can drop all their mistletoe on the other side of that tree wall. you sure you dont want to fill all that crap in with rock? 20:08 no. its a forest 20:08 i have plans to allow druids to just pass through trees, but to do it proper is save breaking 20:08 gonna have to wait 20:12 hmm i just thought of something 20:13 spells 'create grass' and 'create trees' shouldnt work in the valley of the dead 20:13 or create trees would just make dead trees or something 20:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 399 points, T:1057, killed by Gollum, while fainted from lack of food 20:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:32, killed by an arrow 20:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2072 (0:09:22) 20:30 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2356 (0:12:33) 20:38 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Dru Hum Fem Neu) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Silvanus, on T:31073 (7:43:10) 20:38 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:46 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 16500 points, T:5307, killed by an air elemental, while frozen by a monster's gaze 20:51 -!- Loggers_IX has joined #evilhack 20:52 k2, if you wanna grab my save, you can see the weird autounlock behavior i was talking about by pressing "l" where im standing. im out for the night 20:54 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20:54 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 21:00 -!- NetSysFire has quit [Quit: generic quit message] 21:01 -!- NetSysFire has joined #evilhack 21:08 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha) genocided vampire mages, on T:80462 (1 day, 22:15:50) 21:11 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.5.1] 21:21 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:22 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:80879 (1 day, 22:30:37) 21:24 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3268 (0:23:52) 21:25 !tell krm26 if i move your chest from that spot and try to unlock it any other place, the autounlock behaves normally. no idea why its acting that way right there in the original spot 21:25 I'm on it, K2. 21:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:6426 (1:04:23) 21:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed the invisible Nightsorrow's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:6447 (1:05:05) 21:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 7908 points, T:7149, killed by a forest centaur 21:36 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Fem Law) had a leather alchemy smock entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:39296 (9:51:57) 21:44 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:48 having a pet want to eat a terrain feature (grass) is a bit difficult 21:48 havent figured that out yet 21:51 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1563 (0:06:40) 21:54 -!- Loggers_IX has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:02 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 11487 points, T:6248, killed by a petrified ent 22:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3523 points, T:2694, killed by an Uruk-hai 22:09 -!- Loggers_IX has joined #evilhack 22:15 [hdf-us] [evil] fionnuala (Dru Cen Fem Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:28210 (3:46:06) 22:16   pff, ice trap on the Hesperides chest spot 22:42 [hdf-us] [evil] fionnuala (Dru Cen Fem Neu) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:29981 (4:13:13) 22:42 !tell k2: hidden dungeon entry message mentions the sewage having a "faint green glow", maybe make sewage tiles there lit or omit that line? 22:42 k2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, Loggers_IX. 22:50 I'm getting a bunch of program in disorder messages killing guys in the hidden dungeon 22:50 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3049 (0:38:18) 22:51 I think the game doesn't like when I kill guys with a harbinger explosion when they're on a far away dark tile or something 22:52 [hdf-us] [evil] fionnuala (Dru Cen Fem Neu) killed Tal'Gath, on T:30453 (4:23:16) 22:54 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bone staff on an altar, on T:3435 (0:42:16) 23:02 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 2277 points, T:4253, killed by a spear trap 23:02 [hdf-us] [evil] fionnuala (Dru Cen Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:31180 (4:33:11) 23:02 [hdf-us] [evil] fionnuala (Dru Cen Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:31190 (4:33:19) 23:06 !tell k2 skeleton warriors aren't mindless? 23:06 Will do, Loggers_IX! 23:06 no they arent 23:06 K2: Message from Loggers_IX at 2025-02-10 22:42 EST: hidden dungeon entry message mentions the sewage having a "faint green glow", maybe make sewage tiles there lit or omit that line? 23:06 K2: Message from Loggers_IX at 2025-02-10 23:06 EST: skeleton warriors aren't mindless? 23:06 on purpose 23:06 ah okay then 23:07 hmmmmmmmmmm vecna 1 without free action could be scary 23:09 whatever harbinger is great 23:09 yeah they arent mindless in d&d 23:09 regular skeletons are though 23:13 I got a few 23:13 dmonsfree: 1 removed doesn't match 2 pending on Dlvl:26 23:13 Program in disorder! (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.) 23:13 when I was killing guys with harbinger in the hidden dungeon 23:13 crap 23:15 giants? 23:16 it only happened with the explosion attack. I seemed to be getting the feedback for killing a monster twice, too. ex: 23:16 "You kill the beholder! You are caught in the torrent of acid! You kill the beholder!" 23:16 (there was only one beholder) 23:16 ok 23:17 looking at the code, i think this could have happened with dichotomy and tempest as well 23:18 yeah the instakill bit of code guards against DEADMONSTER() but the explosion bit doesnt 23:19 i bet i can recreate this fairly easily 23:19 cool 23:21 throwing harbinger is fun because it's like a gamble on whether or not you will trivialize an encounter or make it 100 times more dangerous by having it not return 23:22 hmm 23:22 not recreating it 23:22 are you melee or throwing harbinger? 23:25 it occured with both throwing and melee 23:25 only in the hidden dungeon for some reason 23:26 all the monsters there? 23:26 or just some 23:26 no, just some 23:26 twice when I killed a beholder and twice on some larvae 23:28 what enchantment is harbinger 23:29 +5, blessed 23:32 i think i know why its happening but i need to recreate it first 23:37 [hdf-us] [evil] fionnuala (Dru Cen Fem Neu), 1069360 points, T:32149, killed by Dispater 23:37 wow 23:37 I thought I had a turn 23:37 I did not 23:37 doh 23:37 dispater and juiblex summoned on same turn --> general shitshow 23:38 man, I usually have a good feel for that sort of thing 23:38 dispater hit me with a nasty high roll on open wounds 23:39 :( 23:39 why cant i recreate this 23:39 i am summoning monsters i know i can kill in one hit 23:40 i may grab your backup save 23:40 may as well 23:41 bedtime for me, good luck with the phantom bug :) 23:41 -!- Loggers_IX has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:82895 (1 day, 23:34:23)