00:37 -!- Demo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:37 -!- Demo has joined #evilhack 00:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) murdered MiisuBoi, her faithful little dog, on T:424 (0:02:28) 00:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:704 (0:03:46) 00:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 1696 points, T:2564, killed by a water moccasin 00:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:628 (0:03:28) 01:00 -!- NetSysFire has quit [Quit: generic quit message] 01:01 -!- NetSysFire has joined #evilhack 01:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) had an elven cloak entrusted to her by Venus, on T:3327 (0:22:09) 01:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4078 (0:29:59) 02:26 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Abdlabl (Dru Hum Fem Neu), 654 points, T:1263, killed by a small mimic 02:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Abdlabl (Dru Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3252 (0:07:32) 02:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Abdlabl (Dru Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3349 (0:07:49) 02:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Abdlabl (Dru Hum Fem Neu), 2113 points, T:4478, killed by a warg 02:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Abdlabl (Dru Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3287 (0:10:00) 02:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Abdlabl (Dru Hum Fem Neu), 2184 points, T:3854, zombified by a drow zombie 03:44 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 03:54 K2 I think arahael had a case a few months back where he couldn't find the magic key in mimic of the mines because of a trap in the lower left. 04:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:22 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 04:36 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:36 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:39 A board beneath the invisible Aliche squeaks an F note loudly. 04:40 no doubt that is a vanilla thing, but "Aliche" is actually levitating... 04:44 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:44 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 05:44 Yay the cursed tinning kit thing works fine for draugr! 05:45 very late in the game, but at least I've tried that for SCIENCE now :-) 06:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) had a shield of mobility entrusted to him by Kos, on T:72637 (1 day, 14:59:42) 06:21 wow i didnt even think about killing one on the stairs k2, and good thing i guess! 06:21 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:22 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 06:25 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:46 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Law), 72362 points, T:24685, killed by a touch of death 06:46 !lastgame 06:46 mobileuser: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/x/xialg/evilhack/dumplog/1738645668.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/post163/evilhack/dumplog/1738710220.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/U/Unga/evilhack/dumplog/1738480079.evil.html 06:49 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 07:17 disappointed i cant turn my tinning kit into wood! 07:22 heh 07:24 im in stall mode now...gotta clear to vecna but not enthusiastic about how well i will handle kas and his 4 Ls 07:24 clubbing things with the staff of the archmagi, meh 07:24 and alas even with the staff i can still only cast magic missile at 100% 07:29 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3535 (0:41:25) 07:30 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:32 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:32 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:38 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 07:40 silver aklys + magic missile should work against Kas 07:40 yeah, but im basically waiting on my mount to engulf all the arch liches while they summon crap on me 07:40 then ill get surrounded by green slimes, or a basilisk will stone my dragon :-P 07:41 got a bad feeling 07:41 ah yeah that's a strat I never use :-) 07:41 dragon vs lich is a great strat if you have 3 or 4 of them 07:41 yeah the summons are usually the most irritating 07:41 in fact, with 3 fiercely loyal dragons liches and alhoons will never touch you 07:41 but alas, i have but one 07:42 and when you ride it it is much less effective 07:42 im probably overworrying 07:44 but i want to keep my level 46 dragon for ever 08:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Rog Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:9790 (3:05:20) 08:29 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:31 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:32 -!- mobileuser has quit [Client Quit] 08:32 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Law), 5137 points, T:7120, killed by Lolth, while sleeping 08:38 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide striped shirt of fire resistance", on T:72806 (1 day, 15:19:19) 08:55 I wonder if my arch-lich pet will attack the wizard for the book of the dead 08:56 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (osmium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 08:56 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:07 i think he should 09:07 either a touch of death instakill or a touch of death noop 09:09 damn, new elf new elf new elf 09:10 elfs 09:11 good thing i had 4 of those potions 09:12 if you throw the vorpal blade up in the air, can it decapitate you? 09:12 because it really should :-) 09:16 just confirmed, a random trap could form on same space as the buried chest that holds the magic key 09:16 which is ok usually 09:17 but 09:17 say you get a rust trap on the same spot as buried chest 09:17 wiki says to remove it: 'Dig a pit into the ground while standing on the trap, then fill the pit.' 09:18 but i cant dig on the spot, says floor is too hard to dig 09:18 bleh 09:18 there need to be two types of too hard floors -- too hard to dig anything, and too hard to dig through, but you can dig a pit 09:22 i assume tal'gath will happily disintegrate and stone and otherwise f-up any mount you are riding 09:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) killed Tal'Gath, on T:99169 (1 day, 18:34:05) 09:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) genocided beholders, on T:99205 (1 day, 18:35:44) 09:33 steed still alive? 09:34 i left him behind 09:34 in the shambling horror cage 09:34 wise 09:35 heh first time that I try the top right secret door at wizard ground floor and it actually exists 09:35 25% chance says wiki 09:36 i got it on my last run! so ive seen it 2 out of however many times now -- 10? 12? 09:37 4? i have no memory 09:37 good luck on your ascension! 09:37 A massive surge of acid engulfs the giant lieutenant's body, completely dissolving her! 09:37 soa/dirge youre just gonna walk up to lucifer and plant him in the ground 09:37 :O 09:38 K2 is that new in 0.9? 09:38 awesome 09:38 did dirge do that? 09:39 I don't know what else it could be? 09:39 harbinger is only supposed to do that 09:39 not... DIRGE 09:39 DIRGE \o/ 09:39 hah 09:39 no this is awsome 09:39 enjoy it while you can :P 09:39 NOOOOOO 09:40 but it's AWESOME 09:40 DIRGE 09:40 harbinger will sometimes do the exploding acid blast thing like dichotomy does with fire/ice 09:40 so i tied that in 09:40 when it is thrown? kick ass 09:40 where's the massive surge of acid coming from, exactly? 09:40 or melee 09:40 magic 09:40 oooh that is bad 09:40 why? 09:41 since almost nothing resists acid, you're going to be woofing all over your mount :-) 09:41 your stuff gets acid res when wielding harbinger 09:41 ah 09:41 steed 09:41 yup, choose wisely 09:41 it isnt that hard to get a steed that resists cold/fire 09:41 of course, if more than just mr extended to your steed... :-) 09:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed the invisible lacca's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:2015 (0:46:46) 09:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:99829 (1 day, 18:50:21) 09:49 hmm 09:50 there's no good way to tell the game via .des file 'if something is buried here, dont allow random trap to form here' 09:50 maybe i can do this in sp_lev.c 09:51 bit out of my depth here 09:51 I just realised that Graz'zt can instakill you with Dirge if you don't have acid res 09:51 K2 maybe hackem already solved this? 09:52 I remember complaints there are well 09:52 i can look 09:54 so hackem did this - https://github.com/k21971/HackEM/commit/5ea10e790b4c53fca7517072d07298835c7c6a0e 09:54 that is NOT a fix in any way 09:54 yeah I was looking at that too 09:54 doesn't prevent traps 09:54 all that did was add one more location where the chest could be buried (and also where gems/stones could generate) 09:56 what hardfloor levels are there where you can't dig a pit? 09:57 on hardfloor levels monsters zapping /oDig will have no effect, but player should still be able to make pits with that or with a pick-axe 09:58 works in 3.7 at least 09:58 even when there is rust trap on the spot? 09:58 right now focusing on 'mimic of the mines' mines' end level 09:58 and you can dig a pit on that level 09:58 BUT if there's an active trap there, you cant 09:58 *active trap on that spot 09:59 trap has to go away first 09:59 mobileuser: yeah in 3.7 with digging wand the trap is silently destroyed, with pick-axe you get a message "You destroy a rust trap with your pick-axe" (which doesn't create a pit, but you can keep digging) 09:59 ah 09:59 I wonder is it because evilhack/hackem added any protection against cheaply destroying traps via digging? 09:59 even with a falling rock trap, cant dig in that space until the trap is empty 10:00 aosdict i dont recall doing that 10:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) polymorphed her first object, on T:4180 (1:01:24) 10:00 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:01 on a regular level i can dig away a rust trap no problem 10:01 same with falling rock trap 10:02 mines' end 'mimic of the mines' is not flagged as hardfloor 10:02 i can dig pits in other places 10:04 there must be some special rule enabled that isnt allowing trap spaces to be diggable 10:04 to the dig.c cave batman! 10:05 ah hell 10:05 the walls are non-diggable 10:06 mimic of the mines should be hardfloor 10:06 what happens if you dig a hole in it? 10:06 you just dig a pit 10:06 cant go any deeper 10:06 fall into the sub-mines void 10:06 awaken 100 balrogs 10:07 this may be the culprit: 10:07 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/dig.c#L220-L227 10:08 did 3.7 change that? 10:09 3.7 restructured a lot of this code, it's not easy to tell 10:10 it's not the "undestroyable trap" bit, that's only VS and portals 10:11 yeah i'm not able to dig away any traps on mines end, regardless of where they spawn 10:11 well mimic of the mines mines' end at least 10:11 ah damn, hitting the 25% secret door chance at the wizard is totally useless if you don't also hit the 50% for the other secret door 10:11 whole level is undiggable walls 10:11 I don't see an equivalent in 3.7 of "trap && !can_dig_down && !candig" 10:12 this is the closest code, in which they are separate cases 10:12 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.7/src/dig.c#L233-L243 10:12 yeah 10:13 (levl[x][y].wall_info & W_NONDIGGABLE) != 0) was peeled away from the rest of it 10:13 in its own else/if 10:14 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) destroyed Vecna, on T:100820 (1 day, 19:18:18) 10:15 mobileuser yeah dirge isnt supposed to that at all lol 10:15 boo eyevall 10:15 i forgot to add '&& otmp->oartifact == ART_HARBINGER' to that part of the code 10:15 so yeah enjoy that while you can 10:16 it only works on giants fyi 10:16 you know how giantslayer has a chance to instakill a giant foe? 10:16 ah, much less awesome 10:17 harbinger inherits that 10:17 ok then 10:17 but the feedback if different cuz acid 10:17 so yeah dirge wont start dissolving anything :P 10:18 ... GIANTS 10:18 this sword hates giants! 10:19 i let the dogs outside, and bourbon is just sitting there at the sliding glass door just staring at me 10:19 YANI Dirge gets a 1% chance to instakill anything without acid res 10:19 'LET MEEEEE IN' 10:19 sigh...lost my uberdragon to vecna, resurrected untamed -- so high level i cant recharm him :-) 10:19 just for fun 10:19 gonna grab my magic harp 10:20 congrats on killing vecna! 10:20 gotta go here in a few min, when i get back, gonna figure out this trap/mines end thing 10:20 later! 10:22 damn. 7 harp charges and i pacified him but did not tame him 10:23 level 46 retame might be a bridge too far 10:23 or 10:23 i could stay here for another 50000 turns and keep invoking the bracers on him 10:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) genocided alhoons, on T:101157 (1 day, 19:27:54) 10:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:101158 (1 day, 19:28:03) 10:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) made her first wish - "cursed fixed +3 bone gauntlets of power", on T:7037 (1:25:51) 10:24 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:5528 (0:35:26) 10:25 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading The Blacksmith's Cookbook, on T:5726 (0:36:34) 10:30 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consumed animal products (fortune cookie) for the first time, on T:6264 (0:40:57) 10:31 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6357 (0:41:50) 10:32 i guess now that im temporarily dragonless i could give up on dragons and use dragonbane... 10:42 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 11 darts on an altar, on T:7308 (0:53:10) 10:55 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3192 (0:12:28) 10:59 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3848 (0:16:29) 11:00 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 10740 points, T:7793, killed by an elven watchman 11:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) killed Baphomet, on T:102032 (1 day, 20:25:07) 11:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed gjallar", on T:50463 (15:32:53) 11:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed the Norn, on T:50468 (15:33:18) 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:4711 (0:40:11) 11:36 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Loggers' ghost, the former Initiate, on T:5112 (0:53:44) 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:51361 (16:02:03) 11:55 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:55 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 8877 points, T:7496, killed by a land mine 11:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:51494 (16:07:33) 11:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:51499 (16:07:55) 12:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:51533 (16:13:53) 12:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 93768 points, T:22039, killed by a gulthias tree 12:07 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1328 (0:07:41) 12:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed the elven high priestess of Moloch, on T:51658 (16:20:46) 12:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:104225 (1 day, 21:14:19) 12:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) killed Lolth, on T:104339 (1 day, 21:15:58) 12:13 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 12:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:51739 (16:25:51) 12:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed Lucifer, on T:51813 (16:29:19) 12:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) entered Purgatory, on T:51821 (16:29:42) 12:18 go go shrigis! 12:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed Saint Michael, on T:51902 (16:35:38) 12:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:52353 (16:44:36) 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3704 points, T:2593, poisoned by a water moccasin 12:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) put the invisible Death down for a little nap, on T:52524 (16:53:53) 12:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 725 points, T:1548, killed by the Goblin King 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:52570 (16:59:21) 13:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed the White Horse, on T:52587 (17:02:15) 13:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful woolly mammoth, on T:52587 (17:02:17) 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:52613 (17:05:08) 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Mon Dwa Mal Law), 11318 points, T:5146, killed by an owlbear, while praying 13:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 5247874 points, T:52617, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Shrigis/evilhack/dumplog/1738084421.evil.html 13:17 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2222 (0:39:54) 13:20 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) completed Sokoban, acquiring a copper amulet of magic resistance, on T:17651 (3:27:16) 13:21 congrats @Shrigis 13:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 58604 points, T:17837, suffocated by a sea dragon 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:2714 (0:43:50) 13:25 what'd he ascend 13:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:73648 (1 day, 16:35:01) 13:30 -!- Glasshopper has joined #evilhack 13:31 human druid 13:31 coolio 13:32 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:34 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Sam Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:3568 (0:27:47) 13:38 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:55 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:56 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 13:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:73690 (1 day, 16:40:50) 13:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming an ogre noble, on T:6453 (1:18:19) 14:06 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:08 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 14:21 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 20401 points, T:7363, killed by a snake 14:31 congrats @shrigis 14:33 @shrigis gg 14:33 hmm I think I'll work on harbinger today 14:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Abdlabl (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 4 points, T:47, killed by a falling rock 14:46 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:47 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 14:49 <@shrigis> I don't think i found a single randomly generated evocation spellbook that game 14:50 their probabilities were adjusted last night 14:50 <@shrigis> Also is entangle supposed to work on covetous monsters? 14:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Sam Dwa Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 13 arrows on an altar, on T:4948 (0:39:26) 14:50 future games, there will be greater odds for most of them showing up (the 6th and 7th level spell probs stayed the same, those are always more rare) 14:51 <@shrigis> I feel like it should 14:51 entangle + covetous monster. hmm 14:51 I take it the spell did not work 14:51 hey K2 14:52 heya 14:52 i'm not surprised if it didnt work. covetous monsters technically dont move. they just teleport around 14:52 <@shrigis> I kinda forgot to test it properly but it did not seem to work on Lucifer 14:53 i can test it to confirm 14:53 i'm betting it will not really do anything 14:54 a few of us have talked about this before, how covetous 'movement' seems to cause more problems than not 14:54 i wonder... 14:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Abdlabl (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1482 points, T:2051, killed by the Goblin King 14:54 hmm 14:54 i have an idea 14:54 <@shrigis> Evilhack covetous monsters are extra annoying, they teleport away even when you are on the stairs 14:54 <@shrigis> I'm not really a fan of that entire mechanic personally 14:54 yeah. i pulled in how covteous monsters behave from sporkhack 14:55 way way back 14:56 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:56 <@shrigis> Makes very little sense flavor wise, like why is this guy allowed to teleport for free an unlimited number of times 14:56 i have an idea though. i know that rodney is coded to not tele away as often as other covetous monsters. i think i added vecna and lucifier to the same function 14:56 *lucifer 14:56 but 14:56 it's still not a lot 14:57 what if... covetous 'movement' only kicked in rarely, remaining times they move like a regular monster 14:58 or, the closer they are to you, the more often they'd want to not tele warp and just move normally 14:58 i dunno. that whole section of code is a mess 15:00 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:01 in a hypothetical version of evilhack based on 3.7, would you supply some evocation spellbooks for druids in the "bonus chests" on early floors? 15:02 @shrigis if you're parked on the upstairs, covetous monsters will tele around you, they dont tele away 15:02 aosdict - bonus chest? 15:03 to compensate for the lack of food induced by restricting food death drops to monsters that normally pick up items 15:06 oh i see 15:06 do other spellbooks appear in those sometimes? 15:06 sometimes they are bonus large boxes 15:07 i wouldnt add a special case for evocation spellbooks, not since I just adjusted their spawn odds to be more inline with the level of the spellbook 15:08 and druids are not restricted from a few other spell classes 15:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Sam Dwa Mal Law), 7997 points, T:6907, killed by a chameleon imitating a baby shadow dragon 15:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Val Gia Fem Law), 71 points, T:464, killed by a giant mimic 15:14 alright, so to establish 15:14 I have harbinger's commits and artilist.h entry open 15:14 I just need to clarify the one thing 15:14 harbinger warning of/angering giants is on wield, rather than on carry, correct? 15:15 everything else I have noted down 15:15 yup on wield 15:15 just like all the other banes 15:15 <@shrigis> I've spent hundreds of turns on vecna's home level killing off the covetous dudes he spawns with because they always teleport away 15:16 <@shrigis> The alhoon and purple L guys 15:16 are you already surrounded by a bunch of other monsters? 15:16 ^ assuming you're standing on the upstairs 15:18 K2 they tend to teleport far away from you when they want to heal 15:18 <@shrigis> No, just standing on a scroll of scare monster and drinking cursed invisibility 15:18 ah right 15:18 ...and scare monster makes that even worse 15:18 <@shrigis> Not surrounded i mean 15:18 yup, what mobileuser said 15:18 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2614 (0:19:36) 15:18 if they're scared they'll want to get away 15:19 <@shrigis> Yeah that 15:19 <@shrigis> You literally can't do anything about it, they teleport too quickly and too far away to reach them 15:19 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2725 (0:20:34) 15:19 <@shrigis> Only option is the kill them from full hp in one go 15:19 well you can do something about it. paralysis potion upside their head 15:20 gotta run, back soon 15:20 yeah if I don't have an instakill weapon I don't use scare monster 15:22 <@shrigis> Hey if druid is supposed to be a type of cleric how come there are 0 altars in the druid quest 15:22 nature is their altar /j 15:23 but idk shrug 15:24 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4533 points, T:3308, killed by a bolt of fire 15:25 K2 already mentioned he is thinking about placing an altar in all the quests that lack one 15:26 what things did you like about druid @shrigis ? 15:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:73696 (1 day, 16:42:38) 15:31 you even did astral in wildshape, which i certainly did not! i think i mostly stopped using wildshapes by gehennom 15:31 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Harbinger 15:33 <@shrigis> Honestly still not sure if "very fast" stacks with pegasus speed 15:34 <@shrigis> I like the charm monster invoke on the QA, you can actually have a pack of wildlife follow you around 15:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:73717 (1 day, 16:49:08) 15:35 it's 1:1 with the old palantir invoke from ancient nethack 15:36 <@shrigis> The wildshapes were pretty interesting, although i just stuck with ancient pseudodragon and later pegasus 15:37 <@shrigis> Also a little stag in the early game 15:37 heh 15:38 <@shrigis> Too bad giant centipede can't cast spells, it seemed fun otherwise 15:38 <@shrigis> Also giant anaconda with a digestion attack but no hands is an interesting concept. 15:38 <@shrigis> Forgot to ever use it 15:39 <@shrigis> Wish there was a wildshape with intrinsic PW regen so you don't have to wish for the eye 15:40 <@shrigis> Felt like some monsters took reduced damage from kicks for some reason... 15:41 <@shrigis> And others took extra damage 15:41 thick skinned ones maybe? 15:41 for less damage I mean 15:41 <@shrigis> Maybe 15:41 <@shrigis> I think there should be feedback for that 15:42 <@shrigis> More damage might be demons/undead taking extra damage from blessed boots 15:43 "The invisible Aliche drops the uncursed Book of the Dead." uh what??? 15:43 you're an arch-lich 15:43 <@shrigis> Is he your pet? 15:43 it was a special present! 15:43 she, yes 15:44 <@shrigis> The real treasure was the friends he made along the way 15:44 lol 15:44 <@shrigis> No need for the book 15:44 yeah I brought up something similar 15:44 I'd at least like the pet to hold on to the book but eh :B 15:44 (I think I was pondering vanilla specifically, though) 15:44 best friends forever 15:45 <@shrigis> Dude not vanilla 15:45 <@shrigis> You can't loot pets in vanilla 15:45 <@shrigis> The book would be stuck on the lich if it worked that way 15:45 I also meant like, post-invocation more than anything 15:45 "Here, you can hold this if you want I don't need it anymore' 15:46 <@shrigis> I just now realised, there is no woolly mammoth wildshape! 15:46 <@shrigis> That's evilhack's most iconic animal 15:46 <@shrigis> Major oversight 15:47 not a very druid-y animal sadly 15:47 yeah I think that was on purpose 15:47 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:47 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 15:47 should be a bonus lvl 30 wildshape. Would be so fun! 15:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4925 (0:35:33) 15:49 -!- jonadab has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:5356 (0:39:31) 15:53 -!- jonadab has joined #evilhack 15:56 "Invisible Aliche's crystal plate mail is immune to invisible Aliche's destructive magic." 15:56 wtf are you doing now Aliche 15:57 accidentally self-cast destroy armor out of confusion? 15:57 or stun or w/e 16:00 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) murdered her faithful lesser nightmare, on T:53960 (17:14:28) 16:01 Umbire got the message again 16:01 hmmm 16:01 hard to say, because she is elsewhere on the map 16:03 she does seem to be in a fight with a peaceful master lich who probably picked up the book of the dead 16:05 it shouldn't be reading as though she's casting at herself 16:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Val Dwa Fem Law), 10153 points, T:6134, killed by a stag 16:05 makes sense otherwise 16:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:880 (0:03:42) 16:12 -!- Demo3 has joined #evilhack 16:13 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 16:17 -!- aos has joined #evilhack 16:17 ugh, can't dig as an ancient pseudodragon :( 16:18 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:18 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:18 -!- Demo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:18 -!- Glasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1212 points, T:1914, killed by a giant mimic 16:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:105425 (1 day, 21:29:53) 16:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:105428 (1 day, 21:30:00) 16:22 "Invisible Aliche's crystal plate mail is immune to invisible Aliche's destructive magic." <--- added to the pad 16:23 yeah the enemy master lich probably cast a destruction spell 16:23 and the attribution got muddled 16:24 yahuh 16:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) killed the elven high priest of Moloch, on T:74032 (1 day, 17:26:37) 16:25 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) murdered her faithful cave spider, on T:814 (0:03:27) 16:25 dishes... 16:25 me too here soon bleh 16:25 \o/ 16:26 DISHES 16:26 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 192 points, T:1055, killed by a death ray 16:26 heh 16:31 -!- jonadab has joined #evilhack 16:36 <@shrigis> Wood to metal has the potential to be super op if wood wand turns out to be wishing 16:36 <@shrigis> I mean metal to wood 16:37 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered her faithful giant mosquito, on T:2014 (0:11:09) 16:37