00:02 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:97829 (1 day, 8:12:56) 00:02 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed the White Horse, on T:97837 (1 day, 8:13:09) 00:02 wooo go bouquet go 00:04 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a spherical amulet on an altar, on T:3940 (0:30:46) 00:04 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:97899 (1 day, 8:15:28) 00:05 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:97903 (1 day, 8:15:41) 00:06 that's awesome K2! 00:06 Give her a high-five for me 00:06 will do 00:07 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha), 7283894 points, T:97920, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1736310772.evil.html 00:07 \o/ 00:08 mounted jousting with ashmar is awesome. Managed to keep my pegasus alive until it bit an antimatter vortex. 00:09 well... lots of turn undead. 00:11 heh 00:12 whatcha gonna try for 0.9.0 bouquet 00:12 druid, duh 00:14 tomorrow, though 00:14 thanks! 00:16 heh 00:16 alright i'm signing off, travel day tomorrow 00:16 bleeeeeeeh 00:16 happy hacking 00:16 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a goblin-captain, on T:6944 (1:49:58) 00:21 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:7212 (1:54:24) 00:24 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 16319 points, T:5054, killed by an ettin zombie, while frozen by a potion 00:30 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 00:30 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 00:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8128 (2:11:35) 01:00 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:37 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:38 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 01:45 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Mon Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2379 (0:17:33) 02:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Mon Dwa Mal Law) destroyed diagonalo's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:3013 (0:23:38) 02:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:13689 (3:39:56) 02:14 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:55 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:56 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 03:05 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:06 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 03:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:61520 (1 day, 3:35:21) 03:31 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:414 (0:06:28) 04:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) killed Tal'Gath, on T:62102 (1 day, 4:16:04) 04:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) genocided beholders, on T:62106 (1 day, 4:16:41) 05:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3198 (0:26:54) 05:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:62592 (1 day, 4:47:35) 05:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:62603 (1 day, 4:48:56) 05:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) performed her first genocide (newts), on T:620 (0:02:02) 05:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2490 (0:09:06) 05:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) genocided piranha, on T:2531 (0:09:27) 05:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:2651 (0:10:53) 05:32 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 05:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 6465 points, T:4888, killed by a champion of Grumbar 05:56 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:10 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 07:10 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:65127 (1 day, 2:06:12) 07:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed elron's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:14810 (4:04:33) 07:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Silvanus, on T:66055 (1 day, 2:29:08) 07:35 sigh 07:36 i dont have a better suggestion, but the notion that you can very easily have a game with only two altars when you are say a wizard and get mandatory gift + ogresmasher, eurgh 07:45 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:47 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:17 <@Loggers_VIII> yes, I brought this up before the change was even implemented 08:17 <@Loggers_VIII> no cigar :p 08:21 well it is true that instead of spending 50k turns fashioning the hammer of the gods instead i just never fashion the hammer of the gods 08:22 im sure there will be another run where the materials for it just drop into my lap, but of course it wont be on a role that can use a hammer :-) 08:23 soa will still get forged just as frequently because it is only 1 wish, but dichotomy is going to be rarer, retribution will almost disappear i think 08:24 forging recipes that use a default gift will keep getting made -- sota for wizards, hotg for priests 08:24 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:26 somewhat increased altar generation would not go amiss 08:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) had an elven cloak entrusted to her by Silvanus, on T:67753 (1 day, 3:22:40) 08:27 dammit 08:27 4th time saccing elf 08:28 what is wrong with me 08:28 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dro Mal Cha), 89669 points, T:26861, quit 08:31 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:67846 (1 day, 3:27:24) 08:39 <@Loggers_VIII> I don’t see anyone forging armor of retribution with the changes 08:39 <@Loggers_VIII> maybe if you use both artiwishes 08:41 if you have enough altars to luck into 2 of the 3 ingredients, maybe 08:41 unlikely 08:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 75408 points, T:18553, killed by a cave bear 08:42 another way to solve altar camping would be to give a huge pile of every possible artifact the first time, hehe 08:43 <@Loggers_VIII> you need minimum 3 altars and perfect real-life luck to get the first 2 ingredients 08:43 OR...other than the mandatory first gift for some roles, kathryn's altar is the only altar capable of giving artifacts. doesnt prevent altar camping at all, but kills all early altar camping. similar, have one deep altar that never fractures, otherwise keeping the current mechanism 08:43 but that is just if the goal is to stop pre-castle altar camping as opposed to stopping it period 08:44 <@Loggers_VIII> cuz since angelslayer/ogresmasher/trollsbane are all non-aligned, you need to get an aligned gift before you can receive any of them 08:44 i dont really understand what the underlying desire behind the change was. but if it is to make it unlikely to forge most stuff, it is a good change for sure 08:44 <@Loggers_VIII> I think k2 wants to kill altar camping period 08:44 ok, done and dusted 08:45 i mean, people will still squeeze one artifact per altar just in case 08:45 <@Loggers_VIII> even with this change, I still altar camp all the time though… I just don’t get artifacts 08:45 i havent had a game with an altar yet but i will definitely altar camp for non-artifacts on an altar i find above sokoban 08:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 8170 points, T:7062, quit 09:05 it's not all about altar camping, it's also about the challenge of not getting everything you want and still win the game with what you do have 09:09 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 09:10 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 09:15 ab mobileuser 09:15 ab Umbire 10:05 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1663 (0:10:48) 10:12 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2722 (0:16:54) 10:20 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed DragonSidedD the human zombie, and former Initiate, on T:3603 (0:24:51) 10:21 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering ape corpses on an altar of Huan Ti, on T:3635 (0:25:53) 10:21 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a leather cloak entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:3636 (0:25:57) 10:22 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Dru Elf Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "sdflkj", on T:5145 (0:38:04) 10:26 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Dru Elf Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5876 (0:41:36) 10:29 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:4240 (0:34:07) 10:38 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 10:39 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5487 (0:44:41) 10:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2389 (0:06:13) 10:41 my zombie pet hit a polytrap and became an arch-lich, things are certainly a lot more lively now 10:41 do they summon nasties? 10:43 good question... 10:43 not yet anyway 10:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1549 points, T:1352, killed by a spear trap 10:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:1160 (0:03:09) 10:51 pets don't summon nasties pretty sure 10:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2413 (0:07:08) 10:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3179 (0:11:16) 10:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2677 points, T:3194, poisoned by a rotted hill orc corpse, while praying 11:00 mobileuser, i understand the challenge, but im disappointed that it becomes in some cases impossible to play with fun toys on the way. 11:01 maybe that is idiosyncratic to me repeating play so much 11:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2305 points, T:2513, killed by a potion of acid 11:05 it's pretty natural that when you play a game a lot you develop a kind of standard recipe 11:05 bbl 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Loggers Wuz Here >:33", on T:3013 (0:09:00) 11:35 interesting, skeleton all by his lonesome 11:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3666 (0:12:04) 11:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 6290 points, T:4327, killed by a magic missile 11:45 oh I could've lived i'm dumb 11:45 good day, y'all 11:45 hallo hallo 11:50 wis 20 druid has 22 pw by level 3... 11:50 I've been scammed 11:52 damn 11:52 that's by design? 11:54 no i'm just unlucky 11:54 they have similar pw growth to priests 11:54 ANOTHER helm of caution... whatever happened to good ol' Brilliance? 11:54 I think if you find a 'crystal helm' it's always brilliance 11:55 yeah not a fan of the warning hot polluting the hat space 11:55 hehe i have two of them. like wtf 11:55 i know warning is important to others, but i get it intrisically 11:55 I vote for helm of slow digestion 11:55 but this giant could really use some help with the wis/int 11:56 haha oh man 11:56 frees up a ring slot 11:56 i want slow digestion on the first circle 11:56 really what I want is intrinsic slow digestion for tortle 11:57 i am going to go for EOTA if i ever get a wish 11:57 (solves the PW problem for me) 11:57 I just found out the coolest thing ever but it might be considered a bug lowk 11:57 I would make the Purity gloves, but then I don't have a way to get acid resistance as a giant :( 11:58 regular dragonbane grants it 11:58 and when i play human, i wear smock (but can't cloak a gia) 11:58 tbh I don't mind not having acid res if I have a lot of HP 11:58 yeah 11:58 true 11:58 but that spell that kathryn etc casts can do serious fucking dmg 11:58 but it can be really risky 11:58 but you're probably right 11:58 acid blast damage is craazyyy 11:58 I've though the same thing before 11:59 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:31964 (8:10:06) 11:59 especially Rodney acid blast in the lategame, can really fuck you up 11:59 purity gloves is two wishes for one item, that gets pretty steep 11:59 so worth it imo 11:59 hi 11:59 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 11:59 hello 11:59 Hello rebatela, Welcome to #evilhack 12:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 774 points, T:1377, killed by the hallucinogen-distorted Goblin King 12:00 yeah i'm not gonna risk it 12:00 i'm gonna make sure every quest home level has an altar to help balance out the altar sac changes 12:00 how about a helm of acid resistance? 12:00 its weird that some have one and others dont 12:00 i always convert the monk one 12:00 very true and accurate k2 12:00 and it's weird that some like the Knight quest (at least in vanilla) has a neutral altar?? 12:01 there's like lore for the cross aligned ones I think 12:01 also I might be geekin out of my rutabaga but I think that the arc quest has like 3 altars k2 so you might wanna look at that 12:01 although some quests have a temple part way through - easy enough to kill the attendant priest and convert that altar 12:01 giving every quest level 1 an altar will be a good change 12:01 well people used to (still do?) convert to neutral as a knight 12:02 both have my druid games have been minetown + kathryn + 1 random altar post-medusa so far :-P 12:02 krm26 - if a quest has an altar that can be used past quest home level, then quest home level wont require an altar 12:02 the arc quest actually has 4(!!) altars 12:02 in the monk quest, there is the one on the first level with Master Po and the abbots. I usually convert that one, but What about the one on the bottom floor where Kaen is? 12:02 it's a moloch altar but can it be converted? I feel like it can't but i don't remember 12:02 arcs can get as many artifacts as they want, good for them 12:03 it can be rebatela 12:03 oh ok cool 12:03 what quest doesnt have an altar at all? 12:03 druid 12:03 you're only restricted from converting them in gehennom 12:03 lol 12:03 doooood 12:03 uhhhh Valkyrie 12:03 ahh thats right 12:03 tourist 12:03 so like the one on orcus' level 12:03 ranger? 12:05 tou/valk/ranger/rog/Sam all have no altar, as far as vanilla 12:05 kk 12:06 : 12:07 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:08 added that to my cheat sheet 12:08 leaving here soon 12:08 gonna be a loooong day 12:08 krm26, invent star trek style teleportation please, kthx 12:10 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Gia Mal Neu) became Chih Sung-tzu's Envoy of Balance, on T:42014 (11:08:55) 12:10 just what we need, evil universe k2 12:10 i guess he would be the goodhack dev 12:15 dunno if you saw last night krm26 12:15 mini-me won 1st place all around in her class again 12:16 and 6th place overall of every gymnast that participated over the weekend (over 1000 girls from all over the US and canada) 12:16 i didnt! grats! 12:16 thanks \o/ 12:16 i assume this means the ice queen gets 10 extra levels 12:17 gonna add jump to her abilities 12:17 i forgot to do that before release hah 12:17 heh 12:17 i wish i could add 'cartwheel multi-kick to the nutz' 12:19 im waiting to hear about mine's cello from saturday, if the news is bad i have to pay for two weeks in paris for some orchestra thing :-/ here's hoping the judges hated her 12:19 noooooo 12:19 news is good, not bad 12:19 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) had a leather studded armor entrusted to her by Silvanus, on T:72875 (1 day, 4:59:20) 12:19 this is what gofundme is for 12:20 hah 12:22 krm26: that's awesome! she must be really good on that cello, either way! 12:22 alrigthi gotta finish packing up. see ya tomorrow 12:23 o/ 12:23 peace 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 14 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:6251 (1:53:30) 12:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1854 (0:05:06) 12:44 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible lacca's ghost, the former Heathen, on T:7383 (2:05:40) 12:56 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Angelslayer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:8410 (2:18:10) 13:09 k2: why is this @npc druid wearing iron bracers? 13:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Silvanus, on T:75809 (1 day, 5:58:28) 13:19 ah well, no artifacts for me this game 13:21 K2 I thought taming would enhance the tameness of pets with high MR? 13:22 6 scrolls of taming didn't do a thing :-( 13:24 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:24 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 13:24 !tell K2 reading 6 scrolls of taming didn't change the "somewhat tame" status of my arch-lich pet 13:24 Will do, mobileuser! 13:27 !tell K2 maybe because I'm a draugr? 13:27 Will do, mobileuser! 13:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 5183 points, T:3267, zombified by a human zombie 13:30 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Dru Elf Mal Neu), 6112 points, T:9657, suffocated by a creeping mound 13:38 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to her by Silvanus, on T:76512 (1 day, 6:18:06) 13:55 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:16270 (3:16:44) 14:01 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:16564 (3:22:26) 14:08 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 14:14 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:15 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:66001 (1 day, 7:55:54) 14:24 gg mobileuser 14:27 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:29 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:36268 (9:02:01) 14:31 opa! 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a pair of cloth low boots entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:20723 (4:04:16) 14:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1951 (0:05:37) 14:47 yeah like even meleeing a yellow dragon just now without Acid resist? I won but it came down to last hit 14:47 and i had missiled it a bunch before 14:48 I guess Loggers left, but yeah it's doable without the acid resistance (ascending) but you better have a LOT of hitpoints 14:49 * rebatela now dies to Croesus 14:50 He's riding a forest centaur. He should have riddne that damn yellow dragon 14:50 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:44575 (12:14:44) 14:52 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1513 (0:08:27) 14:54 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Mon Dwa Mal Law), 17475 points, T:9452, killed by a gargoyle 14:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3258 (0:11:58) 14:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) rejected atheism by offering Green-elf corpses on an altar of Silvanus, on T:3293 (0:12:12) 14:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Silvanus, on T:3295 (0:12:19) 14:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 13704 points, T:14597, quit 14:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) had a pair of wooden bracers entrusted to him by Silvanus, on T:3479 (0:14:21) 15:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Mon Dwa Mal Law), 723 points, T:1521, killed by a hobbit, while fainted from lack of food 15:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4446 (0:21:09) 15:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful fire elemental, on T:3 (0:00:05) 15:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) had a small shield entrusted to him by Silvanus, on T:4764 (0:23:39) 15:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful dwarf zombie, on T:5 (0:00:07) 15:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:5519 (0:27:15) 15:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) had a quarterstaff entrusted to him by Silvanus, on T:5593 (0:27:54) 15:14 "you freed me!" djinni from blessed smoky potion :( 15:17 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:24690 (4:38:25) 15:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) became Silvanus' Envoy of Balance, on T:6794 (0:32:41) 15:24 silvanus is a jerk 15:25 silvanus is a major jerk 15:26 dlvl1, I can't find a door out of the starting room. Now I'm starving to death. 15:27 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Dru Cen Fem Neu), 18 points, T:2129, died of starvation, while fainted 15:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Silvanus, on T:9139 (0:41:48) 15:27 lnice 15:27 welp, it's better than werebane 15:27 a LOT better than werebane, actually 15:28 long sword so higher base damage +1 damage from vorpal, +1 damage from steal, behead chance of course 15:28 over about 10k turns, vorpal is awesome 15:28 Muramasa is even more awesomer 15:29 I got that from a sink I accidentally turned into an altar on my first sacrifice :D 15:29 ring of polymorph down the drain? 15:30 yep 15:31 lucky. They always turn into a fountain for me 15:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] diagonalo (Val Hum Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1590 (0:05:58) 15:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:823 (0:04:56) 15:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] diagonalo (Val Hum Fem Law), 1191 points, T:2642, killed by Gollum 15:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 30642 points, T:10882, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster 15:40 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Dru Cen Fem Neu), 554 points, T:907, killed by a water moccasin 15:40 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:41 absolutely nothing I could do there, no escape items - accidentally walked around the corner and got cube'd 15:41 shameful 15:41 that run was going well agh 15:41 almost as embarrasing as getting killed by fountain snakes 15:42 getting killed by moccasins is an honorable way to go! :P 15:42 i'm bored of druid now. I will play caveman 15:45 unga bunga 15:46 has there been a druid ascension yet? 15:47 yep, by krm26 15:47 i've been to the quest a few times and played tf out of the early game so I am thoroughly drooded out 15:48 hax 15:48 whoa, dragonhide bag 15:48 looks like a sack 15:49 still, neat 15:49 does it say DG or YSL on the side it big sparkly letters? Bonus points at the club 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 976 points, T:1762, killed by a mithril crossbow bolt 15:49 oops, shouldn't have tried to tank the mithril :P 15:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 125 points, T:444, killed by a water moccasin 15:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful python, on T:4 (0:00:06) 15:54 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 498 points, T:1797, killed by Gollum 15:59 caveman is NOT the solution for druid boredom :-) 16:00 unless i guess you want a role guaranteed to drive you right back to druid 16:00 man caveman is awful 16:00 you know what would make caveman fun? magic resistance intrinsic 16:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 328 points, T:1024, killed by a bear trap 16:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful revenant, on T:2 (0:00:03) 16:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1100 points, T:3, quit 16:00 annnnd now that ive said it i realize that i just shat out a wonderful idea 16:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:12 (0:00:14) 16:01 k2! Make Cavemen Great Again! magic resistance intrinsic at level 1 16:01 too dumb for magic 16:02 <[> something like dnh's nullmagic maybe (magic resistance but also can't cast spells) 16:03 gets my vote 16:05 if he thinks MR is too op maybe like MC3 16:06 my vote is for MR *and* MC3 but yknow that's just crazy loggers idea 16:09 krm26: the secret of caveman is now that you can have a million hit points if you stay illiterate 16:09 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 16:11 caveman has the best chance of getting that new super aklys 16:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 1158 points, T:2144, killed by a death ray 16:11 wow very cool thank you goblin 16:11 open door into instakill! thank you! 16:11 if only you had intrinsic MR.... 16:11 scrolls arent reading! only spellbooks are reading :-) 16:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful lesser nightmare, on T:3 (0:00:03) 16:13 <[> Would caveman starting with intrinsic MR really be that much more OP than wizard starting with a CoMR? 16:14 no, especially considering caveman is overall weaker than wizard 16:14 no, it wouldnt be op 16:14 and really the roles are not and do not need to be balanced, they can have variable difficulties 16:14 i just personally find cavemen to be boring and grueling 16:15 occasionally just try to think of some tweak to make them more fun 16:16 anyway! didnt mean to derail further druid analysis tho :-) 16:16 i am SO glad magicbane blowing up bags of holding was reverted because i did it again this game without even thinking 16:19 caveman should get some crazy HP gain. Something that would put them at 500hp at lvl 30 naturally. 16:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1363 (0:08:22) 16:21 yani: cavemen can paint using their blood and a sharp object (dealing some damage) to create a cave painting on the ground - have multiple cave paintings selectable from a menu, each granting unique buffs. more powerful paintings could be unlocked with levels 16:22 the buff would be like when you stand on the square, of course 16:23 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:8932 (1:02:15) 16:23 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:8932 (1:02:26) 16:23 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:29 I like 16:30 unfortunately there's no rich lore from humans 10k+ years ago to draw on. Just speculation. 16:31 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 16:32 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) had a pair of levitation boots entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:10157 (1:11:34) 16:35 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:10739 (1:14:11) 16:38 fighting Vecna as a draugr is very satisfying 16:38 yeah draugr are wrecking balls 16:39 until the angel with sunsword shows up and evaporates you in one swing 16:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:66919 (1 day, 8:46:12) 16:41 bouquet: it's funny how the caveman gods are mesopotamian, notable society of cave dwellers 16:41 I can still wish for the sword 16:42 they should be PNW native gods, or hp lovecraftian eldrich gods 16:43 Orca, Crow, and Bear 16:43 thats pretty advanced for neolithic societies 16:43 how about rock, sky, and other rock 16:44 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 16:44 Cthulhu, Nyarlathotep, Yog-Sothoth 16:44 I like rock, other rock, BIG rock 16:46 sky, rock, and black bull 16:46 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) had a wooden knife entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:12639 (1:25:33) 16:50 good ol' wooden knife. forgeproof so you know it must be an excellent weapon on its own! 16:51 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) had a dark elven helm entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:13927 (1:30:07) 16:54 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:14293 (1:33:39) 16:54 evidently splungetoo wasn't happy with the wooden knife 16:55 cant complain about a free dragonbane these days tho! 16:57 looks like im making sota this game, which begs the question how i will kill vecna and lucifer...given that i had to rely on freak decapitations/disintegrations last game 16:57 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) had a bronze chain mail entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:14715 (1:36:08) 17:05 boulder fort + black dragon polyform 17:14 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3013 (0:17:48) 17:20 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:20 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 17:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 1306 points, T:1774, killed by a mountain dwarf 17:33 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 17:38 bouquet, more indigenous deities would be cool in theory but might walk into a rake making them the cave-dweller gods 17:38 the connection to mesopotamia is more of a "first recorded civilization" type beat 17:38 their quest nemesis IS tiamat after all 17:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 258 points, T:595, killed by a gnome lady 18:02 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:02 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 18:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 414 points, T:1597, killed by a gecko, while frozen by a monster's gaze 18:12 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Dru Hum Fem Neu) had a silver morning star entrusted to her by Silvanus, on T:52134 (13:21:43) 18:29 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 570 points, T:965, killed by a goblin shaman 18:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Dru Hum Mal Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Silvanus, on T:1759 (0:13:25) 18:45 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Dru Cen Fem Neu), 573 points, T:955, killed by a hobgoblin 18:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 794 points, T:2367, killed by a rothe 19:03 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Dru Hum Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:53488 (14:08:59) 19:09 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Dru Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Charon, on T:53668 (14:14:23) 19:15 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:16 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Dru Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of cloth gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to her by Silvanus, on T:54935 (14:22:02) 19:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 8 points, T:66, killed by a goblin 19:17 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1218 (0:05:29) 19:21 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 2895 points, T:3049, killed by a fire ant 19:23 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1154 points, T:2749, died of starvation, while fainted 19:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3017 (0:08:32) 19:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 2058 points, T:3104, killed by a sewer rat 19:27 !tell k2 found a randomly gen'd poisoned snickersnee, maybe make it so lawful artifacts can't spawn poisoned 19:27 I'm on it, Loggers_VIII. 19:31 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Ovate, on T:1302 (0:07:29) 19:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1913 (0:06:37) 19:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Cav Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Loggers' ghost, the former Aborigine, on T:3203 (0:12:37) 19:42 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2299 (0:18:58) 19:46 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:46 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 19:47 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:48 two dragonhide armor already, one from gnolls and another from skeletons 19:49 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3422 (0:25:45) 19:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Cav Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +3 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:6460 (0:31:27) 20:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Cav Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8367 (0:48:32) 20:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 23788 points, T:8543, poisoned by a gargantuan spider 20:17 that was one of the most amazing starts I've ever had. poison instadeath'd 20:18 if I had even remembered that existed I would have been more worried, but I just assume that stupid mechanic is removed no matter how many times it burns me 20:19 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Dru Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2923 (0:50:37) 20:19 less bullshit than the "travel into a hill giant shaman" since I technically could have done something, but equally annoying. another game where I don't think I made a single impactful mistake 20:20 ...aside from melee'ing that spider :P 20:26 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 20:28 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:29 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 20:29 -!- Loggers_VIII has left #evilhack 20:33 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17248 (2:28:04) 20:34 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Dru Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:55309 (14:29:43) 20:35 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:17391 (2:29:41) 20:45 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 44848 points, T:18624, suffocated by a creeping mound 20:53 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.3.1] 20:58 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:4706 (0:30:06) 21:05 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Dru Hum Fem Neu) had a steel mace entrusted to her by Silvanus, on T:57012 (15:00:00) 21:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:6157 (0:40:36) 21:33 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 21:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8384 (0:59:31) 21:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:8601 (1:01:39) 21:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1339 (0:06:46) 21:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2096 (0:12:17) 21:46 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 21:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Dru Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an ancient pseudodragon, on T:3595 (0:59:11) 21:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2172 points, T:2758, killed by an orcish arrow 21:51 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:40240 (10:04:20) 21:52 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:40241 (10:04:28) 21:57 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Dru Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bronze perforated amulet on an altar, on T:4183 (1:08:22) 21:59 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) completed her quest without incident, on T:40538 (10:11:50) 22:08 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Dru Hum Fem Neu), 7092 points, T:4779, killed by a leocrotta 22:16 [hdf-au] [evil] Unga (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:1805 (0:16:09) 22:42 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 22:43 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 22:45 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:57 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 23:33 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:49037 (1 day, 0:26:05) 23:34 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:39 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 23:58 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law), 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