00:53 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 2324 points, T:4751, killed by a drow zombie 01:09 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (platinum.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 01:10 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 01:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Fem Neu) had a staff of holiness entrusted to her by Silvanus, on T:13737 (4:48:31) 02:40 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18569 (6:01:51) 03:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:11996 (1:35:08) 04:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Fem Neu) had a scimitar entrusted to her by Silvanus, on T:19753 (6:22:03) 04:52 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:05 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:37754 (14:16:33) 05:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:37756 (14:16:40) 05:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) completed his quest without incident, on T:37873 (14:21:03) 05:43 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:51 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:21 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:22 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 06:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:17087 (2:26:32) 08:21 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 08:30 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, zapped herself with a wand of lightning 08:30 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful housecat, on T:2 (0:00:02) 08:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu) killed Saint Michael, on T:93140 (2 days, 2:46:11) 08:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:93646 (2 days, 3:00:05) 08:55 hah, one of my dragons has apparently been carrying around sunsword 08:58 a dragon likes treasure? well I never 08:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:93829 (2 days, 3:09:54) 08:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu) killed the Black Horse, on T:93831 (2 days, 3:09:56) 09:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) had a shield of reflection entrusted to him by Kos, on T:39645 (15:52:46) 09:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu), 4483799 points, T:93878, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1737810171.evil.html 09:02 geeg 09:02 thank you for allowing me that mobileuser before you get everything else, appreciated 09:02 is that the first druid asc? 09:02 oh wow that was quick suddenly 09:02 congrats! 09:02 maybe? 09:02 krm26, grats! 09:03 congrats \o/ 09:03 when filtering on Dru on evilhack ascensions on scoreboard no ascension shows up (so yours isn't cached yet, and neither is another one) 09:03 so most likely the first druid, big grats! 09:03 yes, first 0.9 and first druid asc 09:04 that was my third genuine attempt. my biggest critique of druids is the wildshape menu, which has too many nondistinct forms 09:04 the wish changes are good, although i think vecna's wand should also always be 1:1 (mine was this run :-) 09:05 i predict i may be a little disappointed with the altar changes revisiting roles ive already done, since i cant decide i want purity + hotdog on a priest any more and make it happen, it will be very rng 09:06 not necessarily a bad thing that you can no longer force exact equipment you want, but it does affect the way i play to remain interested in a game 09:06 being able to actually fix the speed on a pegasus is great 09:06 druid super power: laying eggs in pegasus form. always play female 09:07 don't you normally become uninterested when you have everything you want? 09:07 once i do -- getting there is fine :-) 09:08 i think of all quest artifacts in the context of whether or not they are amazing enough someone might wish for one 09:08 trying to understand " it does affect the way i play to remain interested in a game" 09:08 and in that respect i think the druid bracers need a slight additional beef, my recommendation is slow digestion 09:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Rog Dro Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:12943 (5:17:35) 09:08 yeah, i like to spend a lot of midgame basically running a farm sim 09:10 so are you saying you won't find the game as interesting with the new nerfs? 09:10 maybe. i definitely an idiosyncratic player tho. and i played a ton before forging even existed, so 09:11 i think i may go right into a 2nd druid 09:11 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:11 since the wildshape changes didnt hit until i was basically done with wildshaping 09:11 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 09:12 yeah, nice to be able to profit from the improvements and earlier experience 09:12 centaur and tortle druids will be particularly irritating since they cant wear helms of speed 09:12 you mean have to wear helms of speed 09:13 no, cant 09:13 they can convert them to wood can't they 09:13 i mean, can, but then can cast no spells 09:13 can they? i didnt think wood helms of speed were permitted? 09:13 recent change? 09:13 the transform only works if the material is already legal 09:13 helms of speed are hard helms so they're wood compatible 09:13 Loggers will now 09:14 same with GoP 09:14 know 09:14 basically all the commonplace metallic stuff can be generated as made of wood 09:14 (that I'm aware of) 09:15 I know bone and stone work, so wood should too 09:16 wood was always an option, just that (very seemingly) no one bothered thinking of it actively until the role specifically built around it dropped 09:16 i have never, ever seen a bone or wood helm of speed 09:18 I think had a wood one from an NPC in a previous game... 09:22 even I've seen a few good helms of speed 09:22 (I've probably seen a lot that I cbf to remember since I'm a serial game parker) 09:24 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Pri Dwa Mal Law), 1122 points, T:2194, killed by a baby owlbear, while praying 09:25 oprop charts on the evil article'll explain as much too 09:31 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Inf Ith Mal Una), 559 points, T:1378, killed by the Goblin King 09:40 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:41 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:59 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: [bbl]] 10:15 what are the druid wildshape level breaks for tiers? 10:18 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Redzho (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 82 points, T:90, killed by a jackal 10:30 k2: curses, exiting wildshape doesnt update perminv carry capacity 10:32 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2175 (0:22:08) 10:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4233 (1:18:19) 10:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] rnhe (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 303 points, T:632, killed by a large spider 10:39 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:4549 (1:23:09) 10:46 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4450 (0:36:25) 10:58 !tell k2 weird wildshape message when wearing cursed gloves: You cannot remove your gloves to put on the ring. Probaly want some wildshaped-specific messages for stuff like that 10:58 k2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, krm26. 10:58 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha), 10981 points, T:7094, withered away 11:17 <@Loggers_VIII> wood speed helms are valid 11:18 <@Loggers_VIII> metallic armor makes druid unable to cast, other stuff is fine 11:18 <@Loggers_VIII> wood probably has an ac bonus. idk 11:18 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:723 (0:04:18) 11:18 <@Loggers_VIII> wood doesn’t have an ac bonus, now that I check. it should 11:19 creeping mounds make early mines sewage levels MUCH more dangerous 11:19 -!- K2 is now known as K2_rawr 11:19 congrats krm26 \o/ 11:20 i changed my nick so i wouldnt lose all the tell msgs 11:20 <@Loggers_VIII> nevermind. wood does have an AC bonus of +1 on druid 11:20 Wood is Good™ 11:20 <@Loggers_VIII> forgot to say, congrats krm26 :) 11:21 omgomgomg 1st drooood asc 11:21 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1208 (0:07:05) 11:21 i skimmed over all the backscroll, so i'm aware 11:21 i'll have Hecubus dump 'em all on me when i get back home 11:21 <@Loggers_VIII> i was going to try and stay up late to finish my game but that was cut short of course heh 11:21 we didnt get to the hotel until after midnight local time ugh 11:22 <@Loggers_VIII> oof 11:22 and i forgot to pack my wireless earbuds so i was stuck using the airline supplied headphones and now my ears are sore heh 11:24 mobileuser how is adjusted draugr going? 11:24 <@Loggers_VIII> the druid quest is cool. tree blights are spooky 11:24 nice 11:24 making a new quest from scratch... ugh. you hope it's good from the get go 11:25 krm26 did an amazing job with the quest text imo 11:25 <@Loggers_VIII> i think god-given spellbooks should have a heavy bias toward spells that fit your role 11:25 <@Loggers_VIII> yeah he did great on that 11:26 i know aosdict gives me shit for making a bunch of new monsters, but if i hadnt, the druid quest wouldnt be nearly as interesting 11:26 <@Loggers_VIII> the new monsters are good imo 11:26 <@Loggers_VIII> probably my favorite part of the version along with wildshape 11:27 cool 11:27 <@Loggers_VIII> though they kinda go hand-in-hand 11:27 has anyone forged harbinger yet? 11:27 <@Loggers_VIII> nope 11:28 i need to fix that magic key/luckstone issue first thing 11:28 <@Loggers_VIII> we’ve been playing a lot of Druid and with the altar changes + guaranteed werebad as first gift you gotta get lucky to get the ingredients without wishing 11:28 i thought i had already 11:28 <@Loggers_VIII> I’m more amazed that that even happened to me twice 11:28 <@Loggers_VIII> wtf are the odds 11:28 what was the mines end level(s) that it happened on? 11:29 <@Loggers_VIII> mimic, the leftmost luckstone nook at the bottom 11:29 the mimic mines end 11:29 k2, really short bullet feedback on druid: quest is good but needs something to break up the sameness of the tree splats just for visual/spelunking interest; thinking about what could be done within theme 11:29 <@Loggers_VIII> correct 11:30 <@Loggers_VIII> agreed with krm26, monster variety is probably the best out of any but i think locate level in particular could probably be more interesting 11:30 !tell K2 focus on mimic mines end concerning magic key/luckstone shenaningans 11:30 No worries, K2_rawr, I've got this! 11:31 altar feedback: with new altar mechanism, all roles should have an altar in their first quest level, or none should (or should be prefractured) 11:31 <@Loggers_VIII> I think all roles having an altar in their home level should have always been a thing honestly 11:31 <@Loggers_VIII> the midgame is not balanced for not having an altar 11:31 <@Loggers_VIII> even pre fractured would be okay 11:32 and i kinda think druids should have intrinsic warning just for tree monsters from level 1 11:32 oh, hey there K2 11:32 hey 11:32 Hello K2_rawr, Welcome to #evilhack 11:32 <@Loggers_VIII> maybe tree blights could just be gray or brown or something 11:32 also like wishing changes, strongly suggest vecna wand not be random, always be 1:1 11:32 tree blights are that color by design 11:32 its on purpose 11:33 <@Loggers_VIII> yeah I know but it’s kinda unfortunate if you don’t have ye olde warning 11:33 oh well 11:33 <@Loggers_VIII> tbh i kinda like it 11:33 also, mistletoe should be kickable from trees if it isnt already 11:33 <@Loggers_VIII> (tree blight color) 11:33 i think it is? 11:33 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 2664 points, T:3012, killed by a gnome lady 11:33 mistletoe 11:33 it might be, i just havent seen it drop yet 11:34 i also think creeping mounds should barf you out if you use fire inside them...they are still plants 11:35 and people are likely to encounter them fairly early because of sewage mines 11:35 was thinking about e to eat when engulfed -- "eat engulfer? yes/no" 11:35 <@Loggers_VIII> yeah, why are creeping mounds fire res? 11:36 that's how they are from ad&d 11:36 <@Loggers_VIII> they kinda scream fire vuln to me 11:36 <@Loggers_VIII> ah 11:36 the player got a fair amount of love with 0.9.0 - creeping mound balances that out a lil bit :) 11:38 gelcube lite. just one calorie 11:38 <@Loggers_VIII> what’s the option for no bones? 11:38 oh gosh 11:38 <@Loggers_VIII> !bones or nobones 11:38 i think the first? 11:38 i never use it 11:38 <@Loggers_VIII> okay thanks 11:39 <[> I think both would work 11:39 look on the wiki 11:39 anyway, good job on 0.9 k2 11:39 thanks! 11:39 <[> the options parser parses "no" and "!" in the same way (which is why dnh's no_forget_map option had to be renamed: the options parser was interpreting it as !_forget_map) 11:39 <@Loggers_VIII> gotcha [ 11:40 <@Loggers_VIII> I am done with evilhack for a bit. vanilla streak time 11:40 have any of you used the highlight hidden stairs option? 11:40 that was added to 0.9.0 11:40 <@Loggers_VIII> ah no, I didn’t realize that was a thing 11:40 kinda snuck it in 11:40 what is it? i'll add it to my rc 11:40 <@Loggers_VIII> I will be though. I got thrown off by an imp corpse on stairs last game 11:41 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/c2e69540d7ceb3f451da1b0507f50b53ee9766a9 11:43 for new draugr pets, is there like a skelname: option or something? 11:44 the stairs are so red they burn my eyes! 11:44 those copper arrows man 11:46 krm26 no, they use dog/horse name 11:47 rawr? 11:47 rawr 11:47 is it a full moon? 11:47 nerp 11:47 !pom 11:47 bouquet: The moon is new for 2 more days. 11:49 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 11:58 headed out, see you all later 11:58 -!- K2_rawr is now known as K2 12:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Redzho (Rog Elf Mal Cha), 576 points, T:987, killed by a large mimic 12:13 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 757 points, T:1116, killed by a grid bug 12:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 818 points, T:1346, killed by a werejackal 12:30 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Gia Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:16677 (3:38:24) 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1534 points, T:1749, killed by a piranha 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Redzho (Val Dwa Fem Law), 771 points, T:1168, killed by an Uruk-hai 12:41 reading the changelog (and i'm not complaining I just want to make sure i have it straight) People who ascend the game all the time think that others are altar camping too much? I remember now. This is how i got banned. Simply questioning it. It fascinated me that anyone would care if somone else prayed too much or whatever. But oh yeah, to the point that they got the game changed for everyone! i'm excited to play the new game! But i certainly don't 12:41 think i altar camp more than the behavior i wintessed/learned from in vanilla 12:41 and k2 referenced this in his reddit/changelog post 12:42 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:42 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 12:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:30065 (6:21:51) 12:49 If i was struggling to ascend the game, I could understand looking around and saying "well these people are grinding it out, and i simply don't have the patience for that!". But i honestly don't know what kind of community you are looking to have when you only listen to the people who ascend all the time... I 12:49 I LOVE wehen someone else ascends 12:52 rebatela, i dont think im being a narcissist when i claim the lion's share of the blame for putting an altar camping bug up k2's butt :-) i camped and camped and camped and camped and k2 had to take my toys away before i went blind 12:52 i did too 12:52 no worries man lol 12:52 i dont recall any players complaining about it, think it was purely observational 12:53 jokes on him tho, i also like camping for normal gear :-) 12:53 if the first two wishes are guaranteed i don't need shit 12:53 give druid a try 12:53 i'm sure i will 12:53 dealing with some crap IRL . did someone ascend yet? 12:54 i haven't even looked 12:54 yeah, theres been one 0.9 ascension so far, druid 12:54 <[> <+Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu), 4483799 points, T:93878, ascended <+Hecubus> https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1737810171.evil.html 12:54 hungry hungry hobbit druid 12:54 and it was YOU? 12:54 dude 12:54 hey way to throw me under the bus [ 12:54 congrats man :) 12:55 it was a near thing, edge of my teeth in several places 12:55 has the endgame changed? 12:55 no 12:55 i have only done the lucifer thing a couple times 12:55 but that part is the same? 12:55 yes 12:56 but only 3 artifact-bearing altars, and for whatever reason vecna was a crazy beast that game 12:56 i basdically HAVE to do Vecna now (which is probably becasue i bragged about never doing the branch...) 12:56 the vecna branch is fun tho 12:56 yeah 12:56 i always do the first two levels 12:56 graveyard and kas? 12:57 i just never had a need for the vecna drops, but now there's a WoW 12:57 sooooo i need a Vecna strat stat!! 12:57 i vorpaled him this past run, or i was going to die 12:58 and then i disintegrated lucifer, or again, i was going to die 12:58 <[> what changed about vecna? 12:58 i don't think anything? 12:58 nothing that i know of, just this run he was utterly destroying me with damage 12:58 i was just saying i used to always skip the bottom level 12:58 (but now there's a WOW) 12:58 couldnt figure out what difference there was in my kit 12:59 oh so THAT changed about Vecna 12:59 there's a WoW 12:59 yes, vecna drops a 1:1-3 wand of wishing 12:59 i will try druid soon enough 12:59 i've been enjoying this giant game i started 12:59 giants can be druids 13:00 hehe 13:00 well you already got the FTA so i will finish my monk game ;) 13:00 0.9 game? 13:00 yes 13:01 so youve alredy experienced the joy of creeping mounds and gulthias trees 13:01 i have a .8 whatever game too (with my normal name) where i'm about the kill rodney 13:01 i was going to ascend it when you were all racing 13:01 and it would look like i beat you 13:01 (i've seen that happen and people absolutely lose their shit before realizing it was an old version) 13:01 yes creeping mounds at least 13:01 bunch of new monsters 13:02 very cool 13:02 <[> next time, park a game at the altar and ascend as soon as the new version is on hardfought 13:02 i need my old hardcover monstrous compendium or whatever he is using ;) 13:02 haha 13:02 i wasnt racing :-) i only compete to be about 25% as successful as mobileuser 13:02 right? 13:03 you're both really good 13:03 did he ascend too? or not yet? i need to look at the scoreboard i guess loll 13:04 he graciously diddled around with a draugr to give me a shot at druid 13:04 oic 13:04 oh wow. like you discussed that? 13:04 very cool 13:04 i begged and pleaded, then agreed to do the dishes for 3 months 13:04 bwahahaha 13:05 i feel like everyone hates me here. i just gonna keep to myself and play my monks 13:05 why do you think people here hate you? 13:05 not really 13:06 i am always too busy hating on graz'zt to hate on anyone else 13:06 hehe 13:06 i died to graz'zt the first time i faced 13:06 i died naked and afraid 13:06 but i think i'm like 3-1 13:06 haha right 13:06 me too 13:09 k2: i guess we will see how it plays out, but i REALLY like the new WoW and Altar changes on the surface! Seems pretty fair and will discourage degenerate behavior etc. Thanks again! 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:31250 (6:47:59) 13:11 woah just hit a multi bones DL 13 13:12 no MR of course 13:12 trying to find the quest level so i could get the eyes 13:13 bunch of locusts wtf . something must have a death wand or something 13:14 i love multibones 13:14 i want a level at least 3 people have failed at 13:15 I think most of the multibones levels I've found have been Minetown. Although a couple of notable times it was BigRoom. DL 13 is pretty deep for that. 13:15 ive had multibones in gehennom before with a demon lord, i love that 13:15 great stuff 13:15 https://imgur.com/a/H1wW3Sf 13:15 not enough people leave demon lord bones 13:16 selfish pricks! 13:18 yeah, they're the problem clearly. 13:18 you get it 13:18 that was sarcasm. 13:19 yes 13:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Silvanus, on T:31485 (6:59:17) 13:22 sup umby 13:23 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:26 hi rebatela 13:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10272 (3:48:11) 13:27 not enough people leave demon lord BigRoom bones? 13:27 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class R, on T:93777 (1 day, 6:16:08) 13:28 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:93785 (1 day, 6:17:01) 13:29 i'm getting lazy trying to find the dumplogs of one of these guys.... SOOOO I'll probably just go ahead and make it BONES x3 13:29 rebatela regarding "has the endgame changed?" There was one change, you now need to kill Michael too 13:29 oh ok cool! 13:29 (i do believe i ran past him once lol) 13:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:31862 (7:06:32) 13:29 I've never killed him before 13:30 I will need a strat! 13:30 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) genocided vampire mages, on T:93792 (1 day, 6:18:46) 13:30 lol 13:31 yeah something tells me this is a death wand 13:31 <@Loggers_VIII> michael is stat check basically 13:31 <@Loggers_VIII> just hit him hard with something he doesn’t resist, or hit him less hard and be really tanky 13:31 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Gia Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Floppers' ghost, the former Sergeant, on T:17648 (4:03:26) 13:35 <[> @e?michael 13:35 michael ~3~ lichen (F) | Lvl: 0 | Diff: 1 | Spd: 1 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 9 | Atk: 1d2 touch sticky, 1d1 touch slow | Align: 0 | genocidable, breathless, mindless, vegan 13:35 <[> michael is a lichen‽ 13:35 <@Loggers_VIII> @e?mike 13:35 mike ~2~ miner (@) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 4 | Spd: 6 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 10 | Gen: special | AC: 10 | Atk: 1d8 weapon physical | Align: 4 | genocidable, omnivore, tunnels, nopoly, infravis 13:35 <[> @e?saint michael 13:35 Saint Michael (A) | Lvl: 77 | Diff: 40 | Spd: 14 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison petrification magic | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: unique | AC: -8 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 weapon physical, 2d4 claw knockback, 4d6 cast clerical, 4d6 cast magic missile | Align: 15 | flies, regen, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravis 13:35 <@Loggers_VIII> [: he hides it well 13:37 my biggest fear is all the other angels there joining in the fun 13:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Mon Dwa Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3353 (0:32:39) 13:37 combined magic missile attacks can really drop your HP fast 13:39 michael killed half of my dragon army last run 13:39 oof 13:41 i kept a dragon from a mines trap the entire game tho 13:42 up until astral 13:42 i think despite my love for dragonbane that is my favorite thing to do now, get a dragon and feed it as many wraiths as possible 13:47 uh oh throne wish 13:47 uuuuhm 13:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "blessed +2 Dragonbane", on T:40902 (16:17:54) 13:49 lol I only now noticed you mentioned no dragonbane 13:49 well, draugr doesn't really get pets anyway 14:06 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had 16 shuriken entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:19420 (4:34:17) 14:10 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 5713 points, T:5145, quit 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3611 (0:40:39) 14:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) killed Geryon, on T:42058 (16:48:18) 14:20 you should be able to get dragonbane from a throne like that 14:20 shouldnt 14:20 i'm going to write a letter 14:21 <[> why not? 14:22 totally kidding. i love seeing it 14:24 i never paid attention to anyone else's gifts and sacrifices 14:24 other than to cheer on? 14:29 as long as you don't put any effort into it, throne gifts are fine 14:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:36572 (8:23:00) 14:47 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7220 (1:16:19) 14:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 323 points, T:1319, killed by falling down a mine shaft 14:51 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had 19 steel shuriken entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:20445 (4:52:06) 14:51 keep em coming chih! 14:52 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:52 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 14:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1546 (0:08:14) 15:01 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:8951 (1:30:25) 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:37178 (8:28:35) 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:9092 (1:32:52) 15:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Mon Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:6747 (1:03:12) 15:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide t-shirt of drain resistance", on T:37351 (8:32:03) 15:10 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatelo (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:22000 (5:10:48) 15:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed Tal'Gath, on T:37960 (8:41:49) 15:21 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 16037 points, T:10437, killed by a giant watchman 15:38 So I was in the mines and got jumped by a marilith 15:38 who summoned Geryon 15:39 and meanwhile my wife was giving me angry looks because we were supposed to start cooking dinner together 15:40 I've managed to flee back to minetown but I still have 2 mariliths on my tail 15:40 fun! minetown geryon, im jealous! 15:40 whatcha cookin? 15:41 we had stir fry noodles with chicken & vegetables 15:42 jealous lol 15:42 that was nearly the end of my game 15:44 phew mariliths dead 15:45 crisis averted 15:47 you seemed to kill geryon with no problem, that is atypical, unless you were revisiting the mines as an adult 15:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Mon Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a giant mosquito, on T:9854 (1:47:16) 15:51 I only had +6 stormbringer which is a very slow way to kill geryon. No BoH so no life saving emergency goodies either 15:52 meanwhile the level was filling up with summoned demons and undead 15:55 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 15:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Mon Dwa Mal Law), 15829 points, T:10103, quit 15:57 congrats on the druid ascension, krm26! 15:58 thx 15:59 !tell k2: "Fortunately, you are wearing a hard helmet." when rock trap, hard helmet, in wildshape with merged helm. Probably want different message if want to keep same outcome 15:59 Will do, krm26! 15:59 it was touch and go 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Mon Dwa Mal Law), 278 points, T:884, killed by a giant leech, while fainted from lack of food 16:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:43011 (17:10:33) 16:22 You remove the bear trap from the revenant. that's a first for me 16:23 I untrap beartraps fairly frequently 16:23 You swap places with the revenant.  A bear trap closes on your foot! 16:23 lol 16:23 not with like a TON of success but it's a thing I do-- lmao 16:23 Umbire the novelty aspect was that a revenant was trapped in it 16:24 apparently freeing hin didn't disable the trap 16:24 * him 16:25 yeah, disabling the trap and freeing a monster from it are separate things 16:25 guessing the revenant's on Ice Queen? 16:25 yeah 16:25 ok, wolverine is r.... 16:26 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 16:26 and zruty is Y. all is right with the world 16:26 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 16:28 I never knew that wolverines are nothing to do with wolfs 16:28 thank you wikipedia 16:29 they don't strike me as an r kinda monster 16:29 but they're in the same family as like, badgers and shit 16:29 "family of carnivoran mammals, including weasels, badgers, otters, polecats, martens, grisons" 16:29 well, they arent rodents, but they are weasels 16:30 r fits 16:30 m for mustelid 16:30 you are good 16:30 why ask wikipedia when I can just ask you 16:31 i am the very model of a modern major taxonomist 16:31 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 16:31 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 16:31 and no, im not weird, i only know the complete book for four gilbert and sullivan musicals 16:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Mon Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Floppers' ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2054 (0:30:28) 16:32 :-) 16:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:43693 (17:43:00) 16:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Mon Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2663 (0:42:48) 16:49 ugh i predict a lot of games are gonna be altars limited to minetown and ice queen with this sacrifice change 16:49 that's my game 16:50 I had to kill the minetown priest 16:50 next altar: ice queen 16:50 yeah, my last game i had orctown + kathryn + 1 between medusa and castle 16:50 but at least one of the two non-werebanes gave me angelslayer 16:53 so out of 4 druids to get to minetown end/sokoban end, i have 4 druids who have no offensive capability other than a +0 aklys or the starting scimitar or quarterstaff or wildshape 16:53 the one that ascended happened to have a beefy poly pet 16:54 time to go die trying to clear the soko zoo i suppose :-P 16:54 <@Loggers_VIII> wildshape is more than enough, offensively speaking 16:54 <@Loggers_VIII> makes up for the guaranteed stupid fucking dogshit first gift 16:54 not really, not with creeping mounds and gelcubes and whatnot 16:55 <@Loggers_VIII> creeping mound can be dealt with using gray unicorn or anything like cave bear or sabertooth 16:55 <@Loggers_VIII> gelcubes are bad for everyone 16:55 how can gray unicorn deal with creeping mound? 16:55 <@Loggers_VIII> it’s called being fast and doing a lot of damage 16:56 <@Loggers_VIII> @e?creeping mound 16:56 No such monster. 16:56 jeez you craycray 16:56 pinobut not updated i dont think 16:56 <@Loggers_VIII> you get a lot of turns to kill them and they’re usually only like 30-40 HP 16:57 how do you get everything to wait 200 turns for you while you turn into the right shape for each zoo monster 16:57 like i gotta be out of shape right now to entangle + aklys for a cockatrice 16:58 well you already ascended so I believe in you :-) 16:58 oooh corpse im just gonna rubber chicken everything 16:58 <@Loggers_VIII> I dunno 200 turns is pretty lenient I find 16:58 <@Loggers_VIII> that last game where I beat quest, shifting all the time through different forms 16:58 sometimes I just tempt soko monsters one by one out of the zoo 16:59 yeah it's still p. trivial to stealth zoos even with changes to the property 16:59 <@Loggers_VIII> I just stand on diagonal from doorway 16:59 ugh my zoo has a satyr 17:00 <@Loggers_VIII> umbire: what changes to stealth are in evil? 17:00 <@Loggers_VIII> krm26: gray unicorn is the best form by far till you get a horn 17:00 going off assumption tbf 17:00 <@Loggers_VIII> I think you’re correct I just can’t remember the change 17:00 this asshat is playing his flute like every 3 turns 17:01 yup 17:01 even when they can't see you 17:01 very annoying 17:02 <@Loggers_VIII> I never understood before how tinklebear managed to play with such low HP until I experienced the high speed polyforms (he always rides warhorses and stuff) 17:02 <@Loggers_VIII> monsters just can’t hit you ever it’s crazy 17:02 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:02 why dont satyr flutes effect other monsters? at least, other humanoid monsters 17:02 i feel unfairly singled out 17:10 satyr + gnoll cleric + bugs bugs bugs + create monster for another 12 monsters 17:11 man you owe me "mr for this 17:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:15395 (5:25:03) 17:12 i hate everything 17:22 you survived that without MR, impressive 17:28 it gets so old ALWAYS being c*kblocked by lack of mr 17:28 <@shrigis> Whats the deal with those new "n" guys applying a status effect every turn? 17:28 satyrs with pan flutes 17:29 stun, confuse, sleep, they are the pits 17:29 <@shrigis> Yeah how are you supposed to deal with those 17:29 kill em 17:29 stay away until you have a unihorn 17:29 or wear a toque 17:30 or deafen yourself magic trap or earthquake 17:30 <@shrigis> Probably also need sleep resistance 17:30 should be all audio 17:30 so dont need sleep resistance if you are deaf 17:30 <@shrigis> That's not really something you can do most of the time 17:31 <@shrigis> Not like there is a blindfold for your ears 17:31 yeah they are bastards 17:32 i need to convince k2 to let them effect all humanoids, and then i need to start taming them 17:32 want to pan flute my way through ludios 17:32 i wonder if you can poly into a satyr and then use a pan flute for its effects 17:32 <@Loggers_VIII> you can 17:33 at least the status effects have a very short duration 17:35 <@shrigis> Its the fact that they work though the walls that gets me 17:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Elf Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:16652 (5:49:22) 17:37 yeah they don't even have to see you 17:38 <@Loggers_VIII> I think it should be changed to only if you’re in los fr 17:38 why los? it is audio 17:43 <@Loggers_VIII> cuz I don’t like that it’s not los :P 17:51 Do Nazgul scream at you when they are in a different room and can't see you? I don't think so? 17:54 nazgul screamed a lot when they couldn't see frodo 17:55 frodo complained to K2 but K2 didn't want to change it. wear a toque he said. 18:00 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 18:04 dammit cockatrice force me out of wildshape 18:05 it seems like puddings never leave globs when you kill them in wildshape? 18:06 anyone else noticed that? 18:06 <@Loggers_VIII> are you sure you aren’t zooted out of your squash 18:07 <@Loggers_VIII> I’ll test it 18:07 <@shrigis> How do u kill ghosts in wildshape 18:10 I think krm26 mentioned you can kick them but not bite them? 18:11 or the other way around 18:11 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 18:12 <@Loggers_VIII> krm26: they still drop globs 18:12 Kicks still work for equines, yes 18:12 or at least pegasus form? 18:15 pegasus kick seemed to work, very poorly 18:15 i dont know what the rational is, i kind of expect you to whiff on ghosts in all forms and have to use spells 18:16 <@Loggers_VIII> you need to be wearing blessed/enchanted/bone boots or your kicks will pass through 18:16 -!- rebatela has quit [Client Quit] 18:16 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 18:17 <@Loggers_VIII> silver might work too? 18:18 <@Loggers_VIII> it’s the same logic as weapons 18:20 untrue, i kicked with uncursed +0 boots as pegasus and still connected 18:20 thats why i was blarfing on about it so much the other day, didnt seem right 18:21 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:31 <@Loggers_VIII> krm26: for some reason it’s changed to just wearing boots instead of having them be anti-ghost in polyform 18:32 <@Loggers_VIII> weird 18:38 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 18:45 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:95456 (1 day, 7:00:13) 18:48 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:51 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a copper amulet of magic resistance, on T:27191 (8:16:34) 18:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +2 Dragonbane", on T:27213 (8:18:25) 19:44 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:45 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 20:53 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:6895 (1:30:00) 20:54 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:6967 (1:31:07) 21:14 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 21:17 -!- Glasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:25 -!- Glasshopper has joined #evilhack 21:30 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:50 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3219 (0:47:25) 21:54 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:10461 (2:31:06) 21:54 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a mithril broad pick on an altar, on T:3755 (0:51:32) 21:57 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4034 (0:53:35) 21:57 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:10736 (2:34:17) 21:58 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (genetic engineers), on T:4142 (0:54:56) 22:03 <@Loggers_VIII> !tell k2 if you're eating a corpse and a guy you can't see is hitting you with open wounds your character just doesn't stop eating because they're a dumbass 22:03 k2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, @Loggers_VIII. 22:03 <@Cerebot> This command must be issued directly. 22:05 might be the inability to see the caster that's the crux there 22:05 <@Loggers_VIII> yes, it is 22:05 <@Loggers_VIII> if you see a guy cast you stop 22:05 and/or lack of logic in ranged open wounds to stop occupations 22:05 probably like, 3:1 former 22:06 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a rope golem, on T:4857 (1:03:02) 22:06 <@Loggers_VIII> happened to me the other day but forgor to report 22:13 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5473 (1:10:23) 22:14 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 15942 points, T:5512, zombified by a drow zombie, while helpless 22:20 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 22:24 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:25 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 22:44 -!- K2 is now known as K2_wewp 22:44 hi 22:44 Hello K2_wewp, Welcome to #evilhack 22:45 read all the backscroll 22:46 the still eating wheile taking monster spell damage is odd 22:46 you should stop eating 22:46 *while 22:47 -!- Glasshopper is now known as Grasshopper 22:50 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 22:50 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 23:05 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:11355 (2:14:51) 23:13 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest6914 23:13 -!- Guest6914 has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 23:13 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 23:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:43193 (19:46:08) 23:26 -!- K2_wewp is now known as K2 23:29 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 29363 points, T:13483, killed by a tree blight 23:29 <@Loggers_VIII> !Lastgame 23:29 <@Loggers_VIII> !lastgame 23:29 @Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/c/coplate/evilhack/dumplog/1738185093.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/post163/evilhack/dumplog/1738363823.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/o/omghax/evilhack/dumplog/1737671785.evil.html