00:13 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 00:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 207 points, T:790, killed by a kobold zombie 00:20 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:9861 (2:10:42) 00:23 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 00:23 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 00:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 986 points, T:1758, killed by a giant bat 00:58 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13772 (2:49:26) 01:16 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:28 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:16220 (3:19:22) 01:36 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had a dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:17491 (3:27:17) 01:46 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:46 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 01:54 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) made his first wish - "the blessed master key of thievery", on T:20651 (3:44:55) 01:56 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 40791 points, T:21170, killed by the Master of Thieves 02:28 -!- xdminsy has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 03:09 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 03:09 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 03:46 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 03:46 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 04:17 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:33 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 04:33 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 04:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 275 points, T:481, killed by a steel dart 05:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3089 (0:18:43) 05:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 4706 points, T:3615, killed by a crossbow bolt 05:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3551 (0:23:05) 05:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3569 (0:23:27) 05:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:508 (0:02:58) 05:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a runed dagger on an altar, on T:3808 (0:26:06) 05:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Silvanus, on T:4135 (0:31:11) 06:14 <@shrigis> A nymph just seduced me in wildshape, "took off my shield" and somehow stole the bracers that were fused to me @k21971 06:15 <@shrigis> I did not even have a shield on me 06:20 K2 as draugr, I just ate a rancid newt corpse from the ground, but I didn't get any message that I had eaten it 06:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 13864 points, T:6490, killed by a magic missile 06:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:6801 (0:57:37) 06:49 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 06:51 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 06:52 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 06:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:7137 (1:03:28) 07:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) had a mithril elven spear entrusted to her by Venus, on T:9437 (1:26:05) 07:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 211 points, T:390, killed by a crossbow bolt 07:20 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 07:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 573 points, T:1047, killed by a bolt of lightning 07:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 65 points, T:73, killed by a goblin 07:26 <@shrigis> @k21971 the "no charge" fix doesn't actually work. If the pet is standing on the entrance square with an unpaid item it shows up as "no charge" but once you take it out of the inventory it becomes just regular unpaid instead 07:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 244 points, T:713, killed by a dwarf lady 07:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] rnhe (Wiz Trt Mal Neu), 10891 points, T:7109, quit 07:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1301 (0:10:15) 07:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 1991 points, T:1712, killed by a boiling potion 07:47 <@shrigis> I feel like it would make more sense if summoned spheres always went towards the closest enemy instead of always staying right next to you and only exploring if a monster walks up to them first 07:49 i wish the summon spheres let you enter a target square :-) 07:49 or at least direction 07:51 i guess my point rld/@shrigis was that a druid should have some humane mechanism for dealing with trees 07:54 <@shrigis> > b - a copper tin opener 07:54 <@shrigis> Which one is it?? Copper or tin? 07:55 <@shrigis> This opener has 2 materials listed 07:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 828 points, T:1833, killed by a gnome lord 07:58 no it doesnt 07:58 it is an opener of tins 07:58 made of copper 07:58 I think that was the joke ;-) 07:59 welcome back mobileuser! 07:59 thanks! 07:59 man i hate destroying trees in the druid quest, there should be another way 07:59 power cut was finally fixed 08:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] rnhe (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3808 (0:24:08) 08:02 have you been through the druid quest yet mobileuser? invisible tree blights are the worst 08:02 I have just started a draugr rogue 08:04 how can tree blights be invisible? 08:05 they are the same icon as dead tree 08:05 ah 08:05 and everything is made of dead trees 08:05 k2: skeleton warriors show up on esp? 08:14 omigod these tree blights are the worst 08:15 every step, more farlook 08:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuffburger (Mon Dro Fem Cha), 869 points, T:1011, killed by a gnoll hunter 08:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2578 (0:21:53) 08:20 oh i knew i shouldnt but it was too tempting...i dont have disintegration resistance or reflection, but now i have a pet adult black dragon 08:21 heh 08:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2725 (0:23:50) 08:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] rnhe (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6487 (0:46:24) 08:22 so i have a pet yellow and pet black dragon, neither of them will kill a tree blight 08:24 ooh gulthias trees are purple, that cant be good 08:26 i wonder if there is a reason to kick down the dead trees that tree blights and gulthias trees leave behind 08:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a copper runed dagger on an altar, on T:3235 (0:29:03) 08:28 k2: skeleton warriors show up on esp? <--- yes they are not mindless on purpose. they have a level of intelligence 08:30 ok cool 08:30 btw i hate tree blights 08:31 i want a druid #compost ability to remove a dead tree respectfully 08:31 why are you killing trees on the druid quest? 08:31 stairs boxed in 08:32 yess... give in to the temptation to add more extended commands... soon you will be slashem with techniques... 08:32 you can move diagonally 08:32 impassable corners 08:32 between trees 08:32 only tree to tree, not tree to wall 08:32 and i need to bring my pets along with me, need some stair space 08:32 besides, removing dead trees shouldnt be a no-no 08:33 you can 08:33 druids only get dinged for killing live trees 08:33 im just saying id like a way to get rid of dead trees with more tender loving care than kicking, axing, fireballing 08:34 why? they are dead 08:34 kick/axe/fire away 08:34 the same reason we're not going to chop you up with an axe when you die 08:34 why not? i wont care. i'm dead 08:34 do you think most druids are into controlled burns to mitigate catastrophic wildfires? 08:34 for the survivors silly 08:34 brb hotel breakfast time 08:34 for all their tree brethren watching 08:36 you're doing the live ones a favour cutting away the dead ones 08:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:24625 (11:30:09) 08:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] rnhe (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 8130 points, T:8640, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted fire ant 08:40 <[> krm26: how do you compost a whole tree without an axe? 08:40 with druid magic! 08:41 abrasive kisses 08:41 hugelkultur 08:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] rnhe (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 20 points, T:206, killed by a system shock 08:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 14397 points, T:4336, killed by a greater homunculus 08:49 k2: been ages since ive seen this bug, but ive once again got two stacks of uncursed potions of healing that wont combine 08:49 unless, they can now be shatterproof :-) that would be amazing 08:52 well, this is disappointing...going to have to use metal armor. might as well go all in and add gop and helm of telepathy i guess 08:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:11798 (2:03:53) 08:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2025 (0:13:15) 09:03 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 09:04 I'm switching from "shatterproof" to "tempered" in xnh since that's vanilla's word for it 09:04 even though tempered glass is NOT shatterproof 09:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 2974 points, T:2858, killed by an exploding wand 09:11 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Dru Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1630 (0:06:48) 09:12 "polycarbonate" 09:12 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Dru Hum Fem Neu), 998 points, T:2159, killed by a mountain dwarf 09:15 heh 09:15 hey mobileuser welcome back 09:15 how bad were the storms? 09:15 thanks! 09:15 pretty bad, lost power friday afternoon 09:15 uuuugh 09:16 only came back on saturday night 09:16 your home ok? 09:17 yeah we are used to heavy storms 09:18 kk 09:18 thats good 09:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 27790 points, T:13555, killed by an ogre 09:18 mobileuser i recorded your observation about draugr eating rancid corpse 09:19 haven't seen that since 09:19 and @shrigis about the loot pet thing still not fully fixed 09:19 was my first corpse and my pet had been picking it up and dropping it a lot 09:19 oh really? 09:19 huh 09:19 so just a one off 09:20 I'll keep an eye on it 09:20 surprised you're not playing a droooood 09:20 :P 09:23 krm26 about kicking trees - i think terrapin and i were talking about that. kicking a tree doesnt hurt it, so just left it alone 09:24 just dont kill it 09:24 hey draugr need beta testing too ;-) 09:24 true 09:24 draugr did get a few changes 09:24 mobileuser is kindly giving me the maximum chance to get a druid ascended first, so when i blow it i'll have absolutely no excuses 09:25 hah 09:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 645 points, T:1861, killed by a magic missile 09:25 ...and profiting from all your experience later 09:25 next up is gonna be disallowing 'worn' armor from being stolen when in wildshape 09:26 mobileuser is thinking like a supervillian 09:26 :-P 09:27 omg... 09:27 mini-me and one of her gymnastics friends/teammates are in the room doing their hair for competition 09:27 hairspray fumes are thick 09:27 save me 09:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 188 points, T:546, killed by a goblin 09:28 get out of the offending gas cloud region and you should be good to go 09:28 there's no where to go! 09:28 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Dru Hum Fem Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Silvanus, on T:2118 (0:15:35) 09:29 hahaha! no hair spray for taekwondo competitions! (um, usually, i guess shes done it for demo a few times...) 09:29 <@shrigis> How is wizard lock a druid starting spell 09:29 <@shrigis> That is the most un-druid spell in the game 09:29 druids are good at putting wizards in locks, then they give them nuggies 09:30 @shrigis just like other spellcasting classes, they start with a guaraunteed spell that matches their class, and then a random spell from the other classes they can get skill in 09:31 @shrigis apologises if this behavior has offended you in any way shape or form 09:31 would you like to speak to a manager? one can be provided 09:32 :) 09:32 krm26 yeah the girls have to have their hair completely up, no pony tails, nothing 09:33 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Dru Hum Fem Neu), 1970 points, T:2644, killed by a giant bat 09:34 damn, gonna die to arrows from some 1 warning something...argh 09:34 if they have to tie their hair up why do they need hairspray 09:34 stupid corridors, youd think my huge dragons would block some of those arrows 09:34 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Dru Hum Fem Neu) murdered Bobo, her faithful hawk, on T:68 (0:00:38) 09:35 aosdict its a combo of hairspray, bobby pins and hairsrpay 09:35 i dunno why 09:35 err 09:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 262 points, T:1070, killed by a gas spore's explosion 09:35 swap one hairspray with braids and such 09:38 ooh damn a golden naga blew me up in a fireball while i was crossing the ice moat at ludios 09:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 145 points, T:857, killed by a goblin 09:41 disallowing 'merged armor' from being stolen looks like a fairy easy fix 09:41 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (mercury.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 09:41 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 275 points, T:805, killed by a goblin 09:45 what do fairies have to do with it 09:46 fairly 09:46 you know i cant typ fr sht 09:46 :) 09:46 heh 09:46 perhaps the fairies protect your merged armor when things come to steal it 09:47 not sure what to do about the pet #loot in the free spot not fully fixed 09:47 no wait you actually added fairies, like, for real, I think 09:47 that'll have to wait til i get home 09:47 i did 09:47 at exp level 14 druids are immune to nymph steal attack 09:47 across the board 09:48 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:47341 (11:17:03) 09:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 477 points, T:1298, killed by a giant mimic 09:49 <@shrigis> Giant mimic on dlvl 3??? 09:49 heh 09:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Silvanus, on T:26528 (12:42:32) 09:50 @shrigis you'll find that can occur in vanilla nethack as well 09:50 omigod FINALLY 09:50 not in xnh though! 09:50 how much experience do you have with nethack @shrigis ? 09:50 krm26 \o/ 09:52 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Dru Hum Fem Neu), 3164 points, T:2792, killed by a green dragon 09:53 oh damn 09:53 polytrap? 09:53 what does stoneskin actually do? 09:53 !lastgame elron 09:53 krm26: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elron/evilhack/dumplog/1737902031.evil.html 09:53 <@shrigis> That one was xp lvl 3 09:53 chameleon on mines 7 09:54 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/c5df38caa5235e0dfc0a2e469ab980a7f47a2592 09:54 nope -- trying to avoid a sure death with a soldier ant -- polyd it into a green dragon 09:55 K2: FWIW https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/crash.cc and do_crash_dump() in dbg-asrt.cc is basically how Crawl does the fancy crash dumps - doesn't look impossible to shoehorn into NetHack but ofc you'd have to persuade every other variant author to put it in 09:55 my bonus for wearing a bone helmet seems gone now that it is burnt... I lost 2 AC from 1 burn. 09:55 (and it's less code than I expected!) 09:55 do barkskin and stoneskin stack? i assume they shouldn't 09:55 <@shrigis> Have you seen the bug report i sent in here earlier? 09:55 <@shrigis> the "no charge" fix doesn't actually work. If the pet is standing on the entrance square with an unpaid item it shows up as "no charge" but once you take it out of the inventory it becomes just regular unpaid instead 09:56 @shrigis yes i did and it's been noted on my bug tracker 09:56 Pinkbeast thanks! i'll look it over 09:57 funny, my guardian naga paralyzed an air elemental and is squeezing it to death 09:57 krm26 no they do not stack 09:58 <@shrigis> Also bracers are referred to as "shield" while a nymph steals them and nymphs can steal worn armor while wildformed 09:58 yes i also noted that 09:58 i'm working on the latter as i type 09:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu) had a pair of leather bracers entrusted to her by Silvanus, on T:26967 (12:51:52) 09:59 hard to focus with all the hairspray fumes 09:59 ooh those gonna be nice krm26 10:00 sadly i gotta stick in hobbit form to use my shield of reflection most of the time 10:00 because of my black dragon pet 10:00 heh 10:00 im not confident he will avoid breathing when im in his way 10:00 oh sorry K2 I just got dinged on my dex, it has nothing to do with the burnt helm 10:01 * K2 nods 10:01 will druid gods avoid giving metal armor gifts? 10:02 that's the frustrating thing with draugr, you satiate yourself but then your dex gets punished all the time 10:02 krm26 they are supposed to yes 10:02 i put a check in that routine 10:03 if you receive a metallic armor piece lemme know 10:03 to the whine signal! 10:03 hehehe 10:04 You read: "Shrigis, killed by a magic missile". 10:04 heh 10:04 the dungeons are littered with druids 10:04 druids - it's what's for dinner 10:04 druids - the other other white meat 10:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 371 points, T:1118, killed by a giant bat 10:09 forged LEATHER BARDING wut 10:09 if i can still forge that with a polished shield, then it is amazing. if i cant forge it again cuz it is leather, then LAME 10:10 oooh whoops 10:10 did you really just forge leather barding 10:10 in another one of those weird games with no loot...found < a third of the normal scrolls, rings, potions, amulets 10:11 almost 30k turns and to quest/ludios, got like 10 rings, 2 scrolls of id, 2 amulets including soko, about 40 combined potions + scrolls total 10:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 507 points, T:1261, killed by the Goblin King 10:14 krm26 <@K2> did you really just forge leather barding 10:14 The mountain nymph no take! <--- test msg no steal merged armor wildshape form 10:14 i wont have time to commit/patch until i get home 10:14 leaving sooooon 10:15 late but yeah the rare shop giant mimic on like, DL2 is a treat (sarcasm) 10:15 's why it pays to shop smart 10:18 k2, yes i did, with saddle as second ingredient 10:19 HEH 10:19 duly noted 10:19 on the pad 10:20 i mean, i love it, if unintentional -- even if it cant be reforged, can always just use plate as 2nd ingredient 10:20 honestly, magical hammer, i say let non-metal stuff be forged anyway 10:21 just makes it more fun, wouldnt be game-breaking in any way 10:21 since there are no dragonhide weapons anyway :-) i guess slings 10:22 sling + towel > sack 10:22 whip + tin opener > stethoscope 10:22 you're descending into madness 10:22 saddle + forked wand > [CENSORED] 10:23 lol 10:23 i gotta run over to the slex channel real quick 10:23 has anyone forged harbinger yet 10:23 i have forged nothing magical yet 10:24 nor have i seen any artifact except for werebane 10:24 also remember, ithilmar is easier to forge now 10:24 howso? 10:24 lemme find the commit 10:25 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/032267841e638c7f3a3add98f905331ee0655f56 10:25 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Dru Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an ancient pseudodragon, on T:4432 (0:32:19) 10:25 so, vorpal + dramborleg = ithilmar 10:25 oh! nice change 10:26 still hard because of cross-alignment 10:26 so realistically a wish 10:26 a lot esier than before tho 10:26 yeah for sure 10:26 no longer a tradeoff 10:26 also both of those artifacts can spawn randomly 10:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 847 points, T:1673, killed by the Goblin King 10:27 alright yi gotta shut down, competition time 10:27 see you all tonight 10:27 good luck to the girl! 10:27 thanks 10:27 \o/ 10:30 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Dru Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4845 (0:37:29) 10:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 392 points, T:954, killed by a freezing sphere's explosion 10:36 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Dru Hum Fem Neu), 5902 points, T:5538, killed by a steel crossbow bolt, while praying 10:39 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu) had a crinkled spellbook given to her by Silvanus, on T:28409 (13:31:22) 10:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1334 (0:08:21) 10:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 1139 points, T:1449, killed by a bugbear 10:47 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 11:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] rnhe (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 447 points, T:1825, killed by a bolt of fire, while sleeping off a magical draught 11:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an ancient pseudodragon, on T:3178 (0:19:46) 11:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3229 (0:20:26) 11:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3268 (0:21:33) 11:09 <@shrigis> Confuse monster in wildshape confuses yourself... 11:10 <[> yes 11:10 <@shrigis> Actually even in vanilla that is kinda dumb, wand of "speed monster" does not distinguish between player and monsters, so why should confuse monster? 11:11 <[> you can self-target speed monster 11:11 <[> you cannot ordinarily target confuse monster 11:11 <[> s/target/self-target/ 11:20 only because confuse monster is expressed through your hands and the game doesn't allow you to punch yourself in the face 11:21 I'm sure if you could punch yourself in the face you would be able to confuse yourself 11:26 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2453 (0:13:28) 11:32 <@shrigis> Prayer un-wildshapes you??? 11:32 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:9076 (1:28:45) 11:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] rnhe (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 2707 points, T:4440, poisoned by a rotted giant mosquito corpse, while praying 11:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 8743 points, T:6360, killed by a giant leech 11:36 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Bar Gia Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3430 (0:23:55) 11:39 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 4230 points, T:4740, killed by a soldier ant 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 18895 points, T:11882, killed by a long worm 11:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 1447 points, T:2471, killed by a kobold lady 12:09 K2 vorpal + dramborleg = ithilmar? Don't you have to be a dwarf and/or lawful to be able to pick up dramborleg? 12:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 698 points, T:1221, killed by an arrow 12:12 heh, I just noticed, I *do* have code in xnh for turning stone objects to flesh, but it's unreachable because there are no objects for which stone and flesh are both considered valid 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to him by Silvanus, on T:1528 (0:06:03) 12:19 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 12:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 806 points, T:2867, killed by a dwarf zombie 12:24 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:5242 (0:26:31) 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "sdflkj", on T:6892 (0:34:29) 12:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a bugbear), on T:5827 (1:27:16) 12:43 ah, I can still eat lizard corpses 12:43 good 12:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "test", on T:6077 (1:33:26) 12:55 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7338 (1:46:04) 13:01 uh oh 13:01 my black dragon is losing tameness and will not eat tripe 13:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Mal Cha), 5435 points, T:7354, quit 13:03 "tripe? pfah. I demand human flesh" 13:03 "knights are the best. find me one of those" 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:10738 (1:07:34) 13:09 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:11432 (1:12:14) 13:10 hah I had a room full of those 13:10 nice eating for a draugr 13:17 semi related question, can draugr eat tripe? 13:22 no, tripe is processed food 13:23 K2 I just had the no-message-after-eating-rancid-newt-corpse thing again. 13:24 I am starting to suspect it could have something to do with the possible special effect of eating those corpses 13:28 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 13:30 <@Loggers_VIII> I complained about the same thing the other day, it’s on the list of shit to change re: prayer unshifting 13:38 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:43 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed splungetoo's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:12047 (1:46:12) 14:16 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:19 -!- Grasshopper has joined #evilhack 14:24 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15192 (2:26:48) 14:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2871 (0:07:42) 14:28 !tell k2: for some reason as I'm flying around gollum's as an ancient pseudodragon, when I get surprised by a jellyfish I get the message "A jellyfish was hidden under the something!" instead of the "A jellyfish was hidden under the water"... 14:28 No worries, Loggers_VIII, I've got this! 14:28 invisible object floating atop the water? 14:29 no invisible objects in evil 14:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3029 (0:10:45) 14:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3289 (0:13:34) 14:40 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:16409 (2:42:38) 14:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 580 points, T:3350, killed by a large spider 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a steel dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:17144 (2:44:56) 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4843 (0:23:58) 14:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 6511 points, T:4857, killed by a warg 14:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 327 points, T:893, killed by a hobbit pickpocket 14:47 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a helm of telepathy entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:18244 (2:49:32) 14:48 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a small shield entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:18978 (2:50:28) 14:49 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Fem Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2233 (0:26:41) 15:05 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 15:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a piranha), on T:2258 (0:27:40) 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2664 (0:18:35) 15:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3319 (0:23:41) 15:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:4730 (0:34:53) 15:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 4620 points, T:4815, killed by a piranha 15:28 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Dru Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2465 (0:21:30) 15:30 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Dru Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an ancient pseudodragon, on T:3277 (0:24:11) 15:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 11 silver darts on an altar, on T:3385 (0:41:14) 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Dru Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3475 (0:26:59) 15:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu) killed Baba Yaga, on T:31619 (15:38:26) 15:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31619 (15:38:33) 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a shield of light entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:25032 (3:44:04) 15:42 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:44 nice job krm26! 15:46 she almost smoked me with fireballs 15:46 but i got my black and yellow dragons with me 15:46 sadly my black dragon got hungry so my guardian naga is no more 15:47 lets see if they take my bracers away 15:47 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death (killed by a drow cleric), on T:25798 (3:50:10) 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:31963 (15:48:07) 15:59 too bad the bracers dont give reflection 16:06 \o/ 16:07 at least the quest artifact isnt as bad as the priest hat 16:08 "priest hat" lmao 16:08 the disdain 16:09 k2's insistence on the priest orcish skullcap being good is really baffling 16:09 some quest artifact has to be the worst one 16:10 am i right, druid bracers are the invoke and stone resistance? nothing else? 16:11 some quest artifact has to be worst > not necessarily, it could be that they're even enough that there's no consensus worst 16:11 that is i think going to be pretty situational, endgame id rather have dragonhide bracers of decay/esp/excellence prolly 16:12 it would be nice if every quest artifact was so cool that people would sometimes wish for them 16:12 but not everything can be a gjallar 16:12 "I'm going to wish for the orb of detection" said no one ever 16:12 no more orb of detection in evilhack 16:12 gjallar is moose 16:12 the orb of detection is good 16:13 MR + half spell + ESP 16:14 no one wishes for it because the wizard is going to steal and so a) you can't rely on it for MR and b) the wizard will have MR which makes him a menace 16:14 gjallar, p'hul, master key, pyec, eoto, eota, magic mirror might all be wished for 16:14 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a monkey, on T:28654 (4:16:57) 16:14 ah, and striped shirt 16:15 why would one wish for a convict shirt 16:15 phasing 16:15 striped shirt of liberation: mr, stealth, warning, searching, invoke to phase 16:15 oh, you made it sounds like the regular striped shirt was worth wishing 16:16 hah sorry 16:17 nobody is ever gonna wish for the mitre, or tsurugi, or bow...but at least a ranger can make occasional use of the bow 16:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu) had a pair of jumping boots entrusted to her by Silvanus, on T:32540 (16:17:05) 16:20 I think there is niche application of the tsurugi available for a giant melee role 16:21 ...but you once again run into the issue of Rodney stealing 16:24 at least it would only be half of your weapons 16:24 but yeah, tsurugi in one giant hand is a fine weapon 16:27 mmm, bracers also have esp, which is nice 16:27 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:29467 (4:29:58) 16:27 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29468 (4:30:08) 16:28 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed her quest without incident, on T:29620 (4:31:19) 16:34 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a steel dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:30483 (4:36:28) 16:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1972 (0:09:36) 16:36 "The Grey-elf pummels the Goblin King. The Goblin King is killed!" 16:36 elves gettin their get back 16:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:32982 (16:35:05) 16:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (black dragons), on T:2057 (0:11:08) 16:38 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:30859 (4:40:59) 16:43 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 14096 points, T:11250, killed by a human watchman 16:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an ancient pseudodragon, on T:3427 (0:15:26) 16:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3523 (0:16:21) 16:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Loggers Wuz Here :33", on T:3837 (0:19:27) 17:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:33911 (17:01:22) 17:04 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "the blessed magic mirror of merlin", on T:34385 (5:06:52) 17:04 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed King Arthur, on T:34393 (5:07:07) 17:05 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 17:06 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:07 krm26: is there an altar in the druid quest? 17:07 no sir 17:07 just two gulthias trees 17:08 damn, nasty 17:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Dra Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "test", on T:4222 (0:57:38) 17:09 k2: can no longer forge barding 17:10 Orrrrr 17:10 am I being stupid 17:10 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 17:10 k2: ignore me bad case of the dumbs 17:16 You finish eating the newt corpse.  You feel a mild buzz. Hmmm... curiouser and curiouser 17:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 71168 points, T:14100, quit 17:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 12283 points, T:7287, killed by a gremlin, while fainted from lack of food 17:28 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:33 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an ancient pseudodragon, on T:3618 (0:10:12) 17:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3632 (0:10:26) 17:37 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 17:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3726 (0:11:02) 17:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3788 (0:11:26) 17:39 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 6755 points, T:4716, killed by a hill orc called Thosaioth of Ulathos 17:49 that "prayer kicks you out of wildshape" thing REALLY needs to be fixed soon 17:49 it is a little irritating 17:51 I woulda won that orctown ez but I had to pray to cure termill and then I wasn't a pseudodragon anymore :( 17:52 yeah i had an incident like that this game 17:52 luckily i finally have a unihorn 18:12 <@shrigis> Druid feels like a challenge role, ur so squishy and hp regen is very slow 18:25 not any worse than a tourist start 18:25 just gotta be careful 18:26 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:27 <@shrigis> Tourists get darts 18:28 <@shrigis> Druids don't start with any ranged weapons 18:28 the start isn't that bad, you get a good melee weapon and once you reach level 6 you can turn into ancient pseudodragon and solo the mines 18:28 they have entangle 18:29 the quarterstaff is actually pretty great because druids get +2 damage bonus on wooden weapons 18:30 scimitar is serviceable 18:34 as a druid who still has no offensive spells after the quest and 37k turns, it can be a little dicey throwing around a crappy aklys and entangling 18:34 pets help 18:38 mmm un-esp 5 on a level crawling with blights 18:38 wonder what awful new thing that is 18:43 gulthias tree maybe 18:44 are they 5s 18:45 I dunno, i'm just guessing lol 18:45 I think they're quite high level 18:45 yup gulthias tree 18:46 he's goo 18:46 i'm never stepping near one, died twice to tree blights for doing that 18:46 good 18:46 they do like a fuckton of melee 18:46 cool the whole level is trees to the gills 18:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 704 points, T:1402, killed by a mountain dwarf, while sleeping 18:52 so of course with the artifact sacrifice change, my game has 1 altar above kathryn 18:52 so i'll get 3 artifacts, one of which is werebane 18:54 knowing you, the next will be trollsbane+ogresmasher 18:54 it seems likely 18:55 good thing i have my good ol +0 werebane. enchant weapon scrolls after 40k turns? that would be zeero 18:57 my condolences 18:58 im just a black dragon rider, i run around and stand next to things until they get engulfed 18:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2240 (0:08:03) 19:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2490 (0:09:56) 19:01 there should be a 'wood to steel' or something like that spell 19:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:3465 (0:16:18) 19:08 annd so my black dragon bies the cockatrice during automove of course 19:11 boo, peaceful djinni from my first magic lamp in forever 19:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 6331 points, T:4369, killed by a fire ant 19:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 49 points, T:404, killed by a sewer rat 19:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 12 points, T:108, killed by a goblin 19:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 782 points, T:1619, killed by a goblin shaman 19:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:891 (0:02:20) 19:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1649 (0:06:35) 19:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1990 (0:08:22) 19:28 i wonder if summon elemental pulls out the super-strength elementals on the planes 19:30 that would be fun 19:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 6529 points, T:10785, killed by a giant turtle 19:30 dammit now i need stone to flesh 19:31 and im gonna lose my robe because there arent any armor scrolls 19:31 i swear this game is making things a lot harder than they need to be 19:31 finding alternate ways to make me take forever when i cant altar camp 19:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu) had an orange spellbook given to her by Silvanus, on T:40231 (19:48:22) 19:53 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu) had a purple spellbook given to her by Silvanus, on T:40929 (19:52:17) 19:59 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) genocided black dragons, on T:73714 (21:26:25) 20:21 k2: although not made by muramasa, the most famous tsurugi is kisanagi-no-tsurugi, the grass-cutting sword (which i always translate in my head as "lawn-fucking-mower") 20:22 that being the case, now that there is grass, maybe you should make the tsurugi eliminate grass in its square every time you swing it :-) 20:23 :) 20:23 K2: Message from Loggers_VIII at 2025-01-26 14:28 EST: for some reason as I'm flying around gollum's as an ancient pseudodragon, when I get surprised by a jellyfish I get the message "A jellyfish was hidden under the something!" instead of the "A jellyfish was hidden under the water"... 20:23 weird 20:26 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20:26 after more play it's proven to be uber-consistent, happens every game 20:27 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 20:29 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:30 @shrigis stop spreading false information. druid health regeneration is not low - it's not role specific 20:30 and stop acting like every undesireable thing you encounter is a personal affront, it's getting old 20:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 1549 points, T:2150, killed by a bolt of cold 20:31 !tell mobileuser yes that's true about dramborleg. ugh 20:31 I'm on it, K2. 20:32 k2, on the dungeon overview, can you add "fractured altar" in place of altar 20:32 yeah 20:32 and people say you're a jerk! 20:32 how did ice queen do at the meet? 20:32 she took 1st place overall *again* 20:32 woo! 20:33 \o/ 20:33 careful, she'll get a swelled head. make sure you make her do a lot of chores 20:33 highest score she's ever gotten 20:33 39.15 (out of 40) 20:33 i will hah 20:33 she got a 9.900 on vault 20:33 so did one of her teammates 20:34 2nd and 3rd place overall were two of her best friends on the team, they were all within 0.05 points of each other 20:34 team just killed it 20:35 i have a laundry list of bugs to fix and things to tweak 20:35 they gonna clinch district championships and do junior olympics next year? 20:35 to be expected, real bug finding doesnt happen until release 20:35 state championship yeah 20:36 she's on track to go to regionals this year 20:36 would be her first time 20:36 nifty! 20:36 although, even more travel 20:36 yup 20:36 but that's ok 20:36 next week is the big trip, phoenix, AZ 20:37 2 days of travel, 3 days of mini-vaca and the actual competition 20:37 hah not next week.. damn 20:37 this thursday we fly 20:39 i used to be out to phoenix like 4 times a year. gonna go to grand canyon, or saguaro? so glad i got to hit basically every western national park last century 20:40 i dunno if we'll do the grand canyon, we may save that for an actual vaca 20:40 may do sedona instead 20:42 <@Loggers_VIII> K2: shrigis is referring to health regen when wildshaped, which *is* really fucking low for some reason 20:43 it would follow the rules of being a monster 20:43 just as if you were polyd by normal means 20:43 <@Loggers_VIII> I don’t know the regen formula when poly’d but it’s hella slow 20:44 yeah it seems like normal monster regen to me (i.e. not awesome) 20:44 no biggie 20:45 <@Loggers_VIII> oh also I had a couple small bits of feedback regarding stuff you can do while wildshaped - 1) you should be able to rub a lamp and 2) when you try to use a pick axe or mattock the failure reason should be something other than “you’re not strong enough” (since with 18/** st you clearly are) 20:46 noted 20:46 i've *never* heard anyone complain about health regen when poly'd before 20:46 yeah the opening-tin feedback might need to be tweaked too 20:46 i'm not inclined to change that just because you're using wildshape - there has to be some tradeoffs for using it 20:47 probably because poly doesnt last long enough for it to be an issue (not saying it should be changed) 20:47 <@Loggers_VIII> there’s so much nuance to being poly’d that I never knew about because I never use it. it’s a lot of fun to have a role that incentivizes poly 20:47 i've made wildshape poly OP as it is 20:47 it is a lot nicer once you are immune to petrification 20:48 btw if you wanna go on a one shot killing spree, wildshape into a giant anaconda 20:48 but im assuming a master mind flayer would eat me for lunch despite my merged helmet 20:48 giant anacondas are so slow tho, sadly 20:48 they engulf 20:48 burrrrrp 20:48 but sloowwww 20:48 stt all the way 20:48 <@Loggers_VIII> oh, one question I had - when you change into a creature using #wildshape, is the timer until you can do it again started right then or when you change back to normal form? 20:49 starts as soon as you use it 20:49 <@Loggers_VIII> okay sick 20:49 so if you havent abused your alignment, you could potentially stay in wildshape all the time 20:50 here's what i have so far on the tracker - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack 20:50 8-19 20:50 i'll get a couple of the more pressing ones knocked out tonight/tomorrow 20:51 <@Loggers_VIII> krm26 would you mind informing me how you forged a leather pair of bracers 20:52 <@Loggers_VIII> oh leather barding 20:52 <@Loggers_VIII> same thing 20:52 <@Loggers_VIII> actually I know how you did that 20:52 <@Loggers_VIII> nevermind 20:53 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:3018 (0:15:54) 20:53 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 20:54 krm26 how was the quest? 20:56 brb food 20:56 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (genetic engineers), on T:4054 (0:19:44) 20:57 in extremely unsurprising news, someone has let out the zootown zoo 20:57 very fun gameplay here folks 20:58 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4187 (0:20:55) 20:58 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5412 points, T:4473, killed by a baby owlbear, while frozen by a potion 21:06 k2 -- was fun, quest is made touchy because of sneaky tree blights. i think the interstitial levels would be improved with a few significant open glades scattered around. i think the gulthias tree needs to be able to shoot out a vine and pull you towards it 21:07 im imagining a smop, where there is a long worm tail connection between you and the tree that you can attack and break, that would pull you closer every few rounds 21:07 I'm pretty sure at least one variant has a monster that can do that 21:07 dnh watcher in the water maybe? 21:08 also, the wildshape health thing really should be changed I think. it incentivizes a lot more waiting around and tedious play, and if you have even a minor healing spell it's totally negated anyway 21:09 not to mention a lot of forms have shit max HP anyway 21:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 8593 points, T:5207, killed by a stag 21:10 oh wow I thought I could kill that guy for sure 21:18 damn, at medusa/kathryn and still have no ranged damage spell 21:27 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:35 krm26 having a monster reach out at a distance to pull you in? 10/10 for style/idea points, but omg 21:36 it would be like a reverse knockback? 21:36 K2: you've probably already realized this, but because evilhack has so much awesome end game content players like me feel the need to ultra-prepare to survive. Thus the altar camping. 21:36 (this would open the door to telekinesis) 21:36 yeah, like reverse knockback 21:36 i mean,stationary monsters gotta do *something* 21:36 i just avoided my gulthias tree, too scary 21:36 bouquet yeah. you can still altar camp and get stuff 21:37 just now it's one artifact per altar 21:38 krm26 well the gtree spawns monsters that will go to you and attack 21:38 so there's that 21:38 In my zero alcohol beer clarity I realized that all the cool skills and tools aren't used because I'm so freaked out about getting through purgatory. 21:39 I'd love to screw around in purgatory more, but I never feel prepared no matter how much hp or AC I have. 21:39 purgatory is for moving as quickly as possible and never engaging using just wands of teleport and death 21:39 because every one of those f-ers is waiting to grab the amulet and die somewhere inconvenient 21:40 heh 21:42 anyway, thanks for coming to my ted talk 21:43 :) 21:43 what are you playing currently bouquet? race/role 21:43 drow knight 21:43 is this still on 0.8.4? 21:43 ya. 21:43 * K2 nods 21:43 been altar camping for a zillion turns 21:44 want to try porting my game to 9.0? 21:44 gotcha. my initial comment wont apply until 0.9.0 21:44 heh no that wont work 21:44 ya, I tried to figure it out but it's not trivial 21:45 anyway, my games always slow to a crawl after castle because of the need to get hyperpowered to take on the end game 21:45 I realize that's probably a 'me' thing, but I like to think I'm a pretty even slice of the community 21:46 I've never experienced a cakewalk in evilhack like in vanilla where one can zoom through the entire game in 2 hours. 21:47 that's good 21:49 indeed! 21:50 but the screeching halt after castle is jarring 21:50 i wouldnt say its a screeching halt 21:50 maybe I just need to suck it up and go south 21:51 at least when I die I can start playing 0.9 21:51 well dont tank your existing game 21:52 you've come really far with it 21:52 <@Loggers_VIII> re: purgatory just pretend monsters don’t exist 21:52 <@Loggers_VIII> as a centaur you can outspeed the playermons and toot a bugle for dragons 21:53 <@Loggers_VIII> there’s always a vorpal J which is kinda spooky if you aren’t prepared for it but it’s no big deal really 21:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 0 points, T:71, killed by a goblin 21:54 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 21:54 @Loggers_VIII a couple ascension runs ago I got beheaded by a purple J because the glyph was of its rider so I didn't see it :( 21:55 ouch :( 21:55 farlook riders 21:55 orcish knight called Kozbugh the Sniveler, riding a nightmare, wearing heavy armor 21:55 I got beheaded in purgatory once but it was just because I melee'd the vorpal J lol 21:55 no surprises 21:55 does anyone else melee vorpal J? that just me? 21:55 i do if i have to 21:56 I have such a horrible tendency to engage in gambling later on in my runs 21:57 last game I wished for vorpal sword but it didn't appear... found it later when a player monster chopped my head off in the tower. 21:58 heh you seem to have quite the unlucky streak with vorpal stuff bouquet 21:58 i got beheaded on astral but it was just because I melee'd a guy who had vorpal blade for some reason 21:58 oh, K2, less whiny subject... the dragons in my game haven't been using their breath weapon for quite a while. 21:59 hah, as a snake "a bear trap closes harmlessly over you" 21:59 there's a white and silver about 6 spaces away that just appeared and they're just looking at me 21:59 hmm 21:59 they won't approach. They just hang out at breath weapon distance and do nothing 22:00 are they cancelled? 22:00 they'll move if I move out line of sight 22:00 aw dang hdf game viewing is still bungled for curses games 22:01 nope 22:02 as soon as a dragon appears they seem to be breathless. 22:02 watching 22:02 you are probably wearing armor of dragon freezing 22:02 huh 22:03 ok, I'll go find a live one 22:03 its fine 22:03 i can try and recreate it 22:03 a mithril trident I forged just fell apart on me D: 22:03 wonder if it has anything to do with them being over ice 22:04 fell apart? 22:04 that seems the most likely 22:04 did you forge an inferior trident? 22:04 yep I must've 22:04 didn't show up as such but it wasn't ID'd 22:04 that can happen if the hammer is cursed or if one of the ingredients was inferior 22:04 does that mean the hammer is cursed, or is there just a chance that happens? 22:05 that would be a fun idea 22:05 huh, interesting. can stuff spawn randomly inferior? 22:05 same deal in Katharine's castle 22:05 OR if both ingredients have a neg enchantment 22:05 if you're not good at smithing (like most people aren't), you are likely to make inferior weapons from forging 22:05 yes they can 22:05 its rare 22:05 hrm 22:05 make smithing skill a thing K2 22:05 no 22:06 lotta potential factors here. i'll stick with my trusty glorified tree branch :P 22:06 if smithing became a skill, players would grind to get high skill at it just like in all the MMO's 22:06 hell 22:06 no 22:06 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.3.1] 22:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Silvanus, on T:3178 (0:14:03) 22:14 god this artifact is fucking lame 22:14 an artifact is only as good as the one that wields it 22:14 :P 22:14 you know how bad this artifact is? this artifact is so bad that its average damage is worse than my starting +1 quarterstaff 22:16 a lot worse actually. average damage on the quarterstaff is 6.5 (1d6 +1 enchantment +2 wood damage bonus) compared to 4.5 on werebane (1d8) 22:17 an artifact is only as good as the one that wields it 22:17 well I suck so werebane sucks 22:18 lol 22:18 werebane is silver 22:18 plus it makes you immune to lycanthropy 22:18 oh damn i shoulda added werefoo to the druid quest 22:19 i'm gonna switch to it when I see a werecreature of course but like i'm gonna see 3 of those max in the early game and past that who cares 22:19 or demons 22:19 or vampires 22:20 were vampires 22:20 were tortles 22:21 I would like to once again bring up the fact that werebane doing extra damage to silver haters is not as a result of any unique artifact property and thus it doing more damage to those guys doesn't make it not lame 22:21 it does extra dmg to werefoo plus silver dmg 22:22 i know you want to hate werebane but you really cant 22:22 2x damage to werefoo is not cool because there's a highly limited set of them that even exist and past the early game they aren't even threatening outside of weredemons which are rarely seen even lategame 22:23 i want to like werebane I really do 22:23 thematically werebane = not lame 22:24 especially as a druid first gift 22:26 The wood nymph appears confused, being unable to remove your pair of leather bracers. 22:26 ^ wildshaped 22:26 brb 22:32 hah, "You speak with the hawk in its native tongue... the hawk enjoys the chat." 22:33 heh 22:34 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2057 (0:39:43) 22:34 if there were more werefoo in the druid quest it would make more sense story-wise that they receive it as their first sac gift. 22:37 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2484 (0:42:20) 22:39 the message "clonk!" interrupting waiting has done devastating things to the trout population 22:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5145 (0:23:49) 22:41 this run is so fucking weird. it's been an eternal mix of "it's so over" to "we're so back" 22:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to him by Silvanus, on T:5285 (0:25:11) 22:44 YANI: gifts from your god have an increased chance of being superior/exceptional 22:44 there's code for that 22:45 better chance if you havent abused alignment 22:45 same as with getting obj property 22:46 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bone orcish helm on an altar, on T:3552 (0:51:24) 22:52 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Loggers' ghost, the former Ovate, on T:4218 (0:57:41) 22:52 hah dang devteam thinks of everything I guess 22:54 EvilHack Commits: Fix: prevent armor that is 'merged to your body' from being stolen. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/cb747b7de859915132571fa52c8326f6009bee80 22:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha) killed Warden Arianna, on T:27602 (12:33:52) 22:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27603 (12:33:57) 22:57 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 22:57 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 23:00 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:01 heh i see the thing with praying while in wildshape 23:02 almost every form falls under nohands() 23:02 case TROUBLE_UNUSEABLE_HANDS: 23:02 checks if you're either 1) wielding a cursed weapon or 2) you're poly'd and the form has no hands 23:03 should be an easy remedy 23:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha) had a knife entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:28196 (12:44:11) 23:09 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha) completed her quest without incident, on T:28649 (12:48:15) 23:17 !who 23:17 K2: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] dingotron [evil] bouquet [evil] karibou [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 23:23 EvilHack Commits: Fix: rehumanizing a Druid while in wildshape via prayer. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/4d2538ce0001b20ae736caeca4463f312d58083b 23:46 random but i love your commit messages K2 23:46 too many people do https://xkcd.com/1296/ 23:47 heh 23:47 'my hands are typing words' 23:47 i especially like the explanations below 23:47 thanks 23:49 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:50 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 23:52 EvilHack Commits: Fix: give proper feedback on why certain objects can't be used while … https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/ce8a482d8b5c49f97ee4ff9bbc418886bedfcf7d 23:59 all those commits are now live 23:59 will work on more issue later, i gotta sleep 23:59 *issues 23:59 gnite o/