01:34 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Dru Cen Fem Neu), 291 points, T:593, killed by a mountain dwarf 01:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Dru Cen Fem Neu), 523 points, T:1228, killed by an iguana, while frozen by a monster's gaze 02:17 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Dru Cen Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a winter wolf, on T:4530 (1:16:05) 03:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Dru Cen Fem Neu), 7032 points, T:5803, killed by a quasit 03:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:582 (0:02:03) 04:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1611 (0:11:41) 04:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +3 cleaver", on T:1752 (0:13:13) 04:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 4182 points, T:3680, killed by a giant leech 05:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 321 points, T:2176, killed by an arrow 05:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:34, killed by a bear trap 05:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1565 (0:14:23) 05:51 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:51 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 05:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 660 points, T:2358, killed by a giant bat 06:09 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:10 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 06:14 k2: wildshape druids can kick as pseudodragons, perhaps other shapes they should not be able to 06:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu), 1473 points, T:1404, killed by Gollum 06:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2292 (0:24:12) 06:20 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu), 132 points, T:508, killed by a sewer rat 06:22 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 06:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu), 273 points, T:381, killed by a mountain dwarf 06:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu), 180 points, T:505, killed by a dwarvish spear 06:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 1450 points, T:3374, killed by a hawk, while frozen by a monster's gaze 06:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 24 points, T:116, killed by a jackal 06:47 <@malorpower> K2 I always think about my problems when I sleep. I realized that the solution to this problem is to convert the “drunk” to something else instead of modifying the conversion of Evilhack Druid. 06:47 <@malorpower> That way if there is an error somewhere the number of impacted points is much lower since there will be more Druid plays this month than drunk plays ever 🙂 06:51 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 18 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:1735 (0:09:33) 06:52 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu), 206 points, T:883, killed by a goblin 06:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu), 127 points, T:364, killed by a fox 06:57 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:57 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 07:00 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3023 (0:19:05) 07:01 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:3151 (0:20:11) 07:05 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of high boots entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:3510 (0:23:14) 07:06 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:558 (0:02:23) 07:17 ok, I've updated "drunk" to show as "drk" and Druid to show as "dru". So NO CHANGE to evilhack, only a change to slashthem. There are 88 games *EVER* for Drunk. Evilhack currently has 32 Druid games in 1 day. :) 07:18 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 9502 points, T:4374, killed by an orc shaman 07:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 1838 points, T:2003, quit 07:41 malor \o/ 08:00 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:01 so the pokedex has so much info, why doesn't it have hit points or hit dice? any reason? 08:01 has nothing to do with picking my next wildshape to die to the goblin king as 08:09 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:28598 (12:30:42) 08:16 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 0 points, T:7, killed by a water demon 08:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (piranha), on T:1594 (0:04:45) 08:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1992 (0:06:24) 08:31 hit points are variable so it cant show that 08:31 it could show hit dice though 08:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2587 (0:11:57) 08:34 does it not already 08:41 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest6077 08:41 -!- Guest6077 has quit [Killed (zinc.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 08:41 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:42 it does 08:43 base level 08:43 ^ hit dice 08:44 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:44 well it could probably be clearer that its hp is (that)d8 08:45 and the level may vary at monster generation time 08:45 I forget how it works when the monster is level 0 08:47 k2: female stag = hind 08:48 krm26: he doesn't have nice 3.7 ability to define multiple gender names for monsters 08:53 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:29611 (13:14:18) 08:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:5422 (0:35:37) 08:58 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 08:59 Hello all.  Can a master or regular mind flayer penetrate a dragonhide toque?  I have the castle's wand of wishing and am considering wishing for one. 08:59 yes 09:00 I saw krm26's wish for one and wondered if it can serve me better than the regular oilskin cloth toque. 09:00 it does not protect from sucking 09:00 gotta grease it 09:00 Hmmm, then it's protected so long as it's greased? 09:00 yup 09:00 wow - great find! 09:00 but each attack can remove the grease, so it is poor compared to oilskin 09:01 depending on your speed, a master mind flayer might degrease it and suck you a few times in one action 09:01 true, I have a can of grease and can recharge it, I guess. 09:01 ouch 09:01 grease is enough for alhoons, who dont have as many suck attacks 09:01 if i am not using oilskin i will generally genocide master mind flayers 09:02 Hmmm, my AC is pretty good at -36 so maybe I'll go for the oilskin version. 09:04 if you wish up an oilskin hat, make sure its cloth 09:04 yeah, that or dragonhide, I guess. 09:05 example would be 'blessed fixed +5 oilskin cloth elven helm' 09:05 no not dragonhide 09:05 oilskin can only apply to cloth objects 09:05 not of an elven helm, you're right 09:05 yup, oilskin toque or oilskin cloth elven helm -- can never have oilskin dragonhide 09:06 hmm, an oily dragon that can leave behind a piece of dragonhide that you can somehow work into an oilskin hat? 09:06 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an ancient pseudodragon, on T:3016 (2:11:56) 09:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3026 (2:12:46) 09:08 oilskin cloth elven helm of speed?  Is that possible? 09:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a silver oblong amulet named K on an altar, on T:6603 (0:46:24) 09:08 no 09:09 cant put properties on a helm of speed, and helms of speed cant be cloth 09:09 alas.  shoes of speed it might have to be, perhaps, as I hate those alhoons / mind flayers mid-game 09:09 what do you think this is - grunthack? 09:09 heh 09:09 dragonhide toque is best in slot, probably, for draugr; otherwise fixed oilskin toque, unless unconcerned about brain suckage 09:10 always concerned about brain suckage. 09:10 well you can genocide mind flayers and master mind flayers and alhoons 09:10 then you only need to worry about draugr and ilithid player monsters 09:10 krm26 how is drooood so far 09:10 grease is typically enough for them 09:11 i haven't gotten ANYWHERE with druid yet, so hard to say 09:11 Good thoughts, thanks for the pointers! 09:11 good luck dbanethacker \o/ 09:11 krm26 actually I should be asking 'how are you handling altar sacrifice changes' :P 09:11 ive been mostly concerned with feeding myself since for some reason im doing hobbit 09:11 but i guess its too early for that as well 09:12 who knows, havent seen an altar 09:12 but i much prefer getting non-artifact gifts in the early game, so the changes are i think beneficial early (for me) 09:12 i've used wildshape a billion times testing, but using it in an actual game last night was thrilling 09:12 changing into a wolf saved my ass 09:12 they've been pretty scarce for me too - must be the moon's phase, but I started right before the full moon so go figure. 09:13 so is it intentional that pseudodragon-me can run around kicking down doors? 09:13 yes 09:13 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/04fc58a1665c1a6071877582482973b3486bbda8 09:15 can i kick down doors as a snake? 09:15 no 09:16 did you not read the link i just posted? 09:16 reading is for chumps 09:16 but pseudodragons are just snakes with wings 09:16 and feet 09:16 they are very much quadrupeds like normal dragons 09:16 read the commit notes for that link, it answers all your questions 09:16 ugh, quadrupedal dragons, totally against the clear fossil record 09:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3239 (2:24:00) 09:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 10165 points, T:7407, killed by a yeti, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:19 mmm two tasty elves 09:22 goblin king throne wish! now were cooking with gas 09:23 blessed +3 gray dragon scales 09:23 here i come 09:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +3 gray dragon scales", on T:3386 (2:28:56) 09:29 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Yeshua's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:18181 (3:59:31) 09:30 shheee it. cursed magic lamp 09:34 ugh toolless minetown 10:00 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:20521 (4:30:24) 10:01 i am so bad at paying attention to turn counts 10:02 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) had a staff of war entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:20684 (4:32:41) 10:04 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:5113 (3:09:50) 10:05 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1465 (0:13:52) 10:09 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:26 ah hell 10:26 you know what I forgot to do 10:27 make using wildshape a conduct for druids heh 10:27 as in 'never used wildshape' 10:27 but what druid in their right mind would NOT want to wildshape? 10:27 no biggie i suppose 10:29 is druid without wildshape harder than pauper? 10:29 no 10:30 EvilHack Commits: Tweak the number of charges the Blacksmith hammer starts with and can… https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/d049622e0abc5c2fe967a06cb5c38d4a2d0dddb5 10:30 no different than running a wizard with no spells 10:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] rnhe (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2010 (0:13:07) 10:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] rnhe (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1706 points, T:2056, killed by a piranha 10:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 5573 points, T:2892, killed by a rope golem 10:42 <@shrigis> What ranged options do druids have? 10:43 <@shrigis> No attack spells, no weapons in wildshape 10:43 i am basically just using entangle + aklys and will die below level 7 10:44 <@shrigis> Can you aklys in wildshape tho? 10:45 <@shrigis> Also i did not realise it basically permabans you from wildshape if you die during it 10:45 <@shrigis> Technically there is a cooldown, but you will starve to death waiting for it to run out 10:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 263 points, T:635, killed by a gnome lady 10:51 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) had a pair of dark elven gloves entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:36532 (4:56:06) 10:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 40 points, T:72, killed by a falling rock 10:52 @shrigis ... so many false statements from you 10:52 lol 10:53 druid does have an attack spell (finger of death) and there's nothing stopping them from learning other spells from other spell classes 10:53 you are not permbanned from wildshape if you die and revert 10:54 the cooldown is not an extreme amount of turns, even if you abuse the shit out of your alignment 10:54 i wish when i failed to wildshape cuz of timeout there were a few different failure messages to give me a hint of how much longer 10:54 i am so bad at counting turns 10:54 there is krm26 10:54 rly? 10:54 jeez 10:54 then i'm just lame 10:54 enlightenment will show you 10:56 <@shrigis> Would make more sense if you could only turn into monsters u ate the corpse of. And if u die as that monster you lose the option and have to eat another one of the same type 10:56 no it would not 10:56 that's not how druid wildshape works 10:57 3.7 tracks monsters you've seen, I feel like if I were to implement druid it would be that 10:57 turn into monsters you actually encountered 10:57 maybe provide a limited set of monsters you've seen before the dungeon 10:57 maybe polymorph in general should work that way aosdict 10:57 YANI ^ 10:58 kinda like how you cant use the e-word until you've seen it 10:58 the e-word? 10:58 elbereth 10:59 that's been a thing in evilhack since the beginning 10:59 oh cool. I can say "elbereth" now, because I've seen it :) 10:59 \o/ 10:59 i see what you did there 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Gia Mal Neu), 1245 points, T:1069, killed by a giant hawk called Bobo 11:02 hah 11:02 did your own pet hawk decide it had enough of you? 11:03 <@shrigis> No 11:03 <@shrigis> Boner level 11:03 :) 11:04 mighta been mine, i scattered around a lot of bobos this morning 11:04 ugh i hope mobileuser, elenmirie and gang are doing alright 11:04 nasty storm hitting ireland/britian 11:04 prob why they arent online atm 11:05 <@shrigis> Can't change gear in wildshape either... 11:05 <@shrigis> Starting race doesn't seem to matter too much since you're probably in wildshape all the time 11:05 no you wont 11:05 you can remove merged armor in wildshape form; cant put it back on until you revert 11:05 hard to hold early wildshape, damage will get you 11:05 by design 11:05 unless you've somehow managed to find a healing spell 11:06 or potion 11:06 or just rest a few turns 11:06 k2, are there any benefits for evocation skill? 11:06 you'll heal faster if you're standing on grass/next to a live tree 11:06 krm26 absolutely 11:07 need a little spell school table like the other schools have on the wiki 11:07 yeah I've heard the wind over there's picked up somethin' fierce 11:07 many of the evocation spells arent fully realized unless you train the skill 11:07 and yeah its on my to-do 11:07 does entangle change from basic to skilled? 11:07 (the wiki) 11:07 yes 11:08 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/979393c66b6f357c126035c8e76859507b00d21e 11:08 until i get the evilhack wiki page updated, you can search the repo with the name of the spell, you'll get all the details 11:09 im basically an entangle/aklys monkey right now 11:09 ultimate kiting spell 11:10 gotta stick to corridors 11:10 does evilhack have a spell of web? 11:10 no 11:10 not even for drow? 11:10 but driders can 'spit' balls of webbing at you 11:10 that would be a neat addition for drow spellcasters 11:11 guess I will have to go back to splicehack to roleplay a spiderman wizard 11:11 or poly into a drider 11:11 that would actually be a fairly powerful polyform 11:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 345 points, T:938, killed by a gnome lord 11:14 brb 11:15 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:21 hmm. ancient pseudodragon, immune to poison, ate a blob, feel slightly healthier. 11:22 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:25105 (5:39:32) 11:24 that's for your base form 11:27 <@shrigis> At least centaurs can still jump in wildform 11:27 <@shrigis> The same should probably be true for giants and boulders 11:28 <@shrigis> > you don't have enough energy to breathe 11:28 <@shrigis> As a winter wolf with 0 pw 11:28 <@shrigis> That doesn't sound right 11:29 that's exactly how nethack works with monster special attacks 11:29 that is nothing new 11:29 <@shrigis> Oh ok 11:29 <@shrigis> At least centaurs can still jump in wildform <--- sounds like a bug 11:29 <@shrigis> Wait no that doesn't make it better 11:29 <@shrigis> The same should probably be true for giants and boulders <--- hah no 11:29 <@shrigis> What do mean i can't breathe??? 11:30 <@shrigis> Doesn't say anything about using a breath weapon 11:30 winter wolf has a cold breath attack 11:30 like a white dragon 11:30 <@shrigis> Yes but it doesn't say 11:30 <@shrigis> > you don't have enough energy to breathe frost 11:30 so? 11:30 <@shrigis> It says 11:30 <@shrigis> > you don't have enough energy to breathe 11:30 right 11:30 <@shrigis> Sounds like i should be dead right now 11:30 that's how it is 11:31 <@shrigis> From not breathing 11:31 this is vanilla nethack behavior 11:31 <@shrigis> It's a stupid line 11:31 feel free to log a bug report to the nethack devteam regarding that feedback 11:32 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 50 points, T:392, killed by a little dart 11:33 EPI: if you get this message, the game realizes oops, you must have been too weak to stay alive. You die... 11:33 ouch 11:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Cen Mal Neu), 2211 points, T:1477, killed by the Goblin King 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Elf Mal Neu), 137 points, T:359, killed by a goblin 11:46 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Arch's ghost, the former Ovate, on T:2764 (0:14:17) 11:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] rnhe (Dru Gia Mal Neu), 418 points, T:1336, killed by a crossbow bolt 11:50 smooth shield? 11:52 lost its polish 11:52 must be a farlook thing ive never noticed before 11:53 correct 11:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] rnhe (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1136 (0:07:08) 11:55 <@shrigis> > you are unable to chant the incantation 11:55 <@shrigis> Are stags mute? 11:56 ever heard a deer talk? 11:56 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) had a magical stone quarterstaff entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:27115 (6:13:02) 11:56 <@shrigis> Really wish there was a way to see what each wildshape's powers are 11:57 pokedex 11:57 I don't think pokedex tells you whether you can cast spells in that form... arguably not that useful for other variants, but probably important for druid 11:57 <@shrigis> Yup 11:58 can d&d druids cast spells with verbal or somatic components when wildshaped? I know in 3e you couldn't 11:58 <@shrigis> Maybe if you press (?) it would let you pick a pokedex entry for any available wildshape 11:58 <@shrigis> Instead of having to type the full name into a prompt 12:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] rnhe (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1471 (0:12:06) 12:00 <@shrigis> Hey does your hp regen extra slowly in wildshape? 12:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 1313 points, T:941, killed by a dagger 12:01 jeez had to jump into the oracle moat to get away...not gonna survive to uncurse my lamp dammit 12:02 <@shrigis> Oh cool create grass is actually useless 12:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 228 points, T:480, killed by a mountain dwarf 12:17 @shrigis now you're just trolling 12:18 there are a handful of benefits druids get when standing on grass or next to a live tree. health regen is faster 12:19 it "just" sounds like a role you have to put a lot of thought into when it comes to movement and positioning among other things 12:22 if i recall, there are 5 forms that druid can wildshape into that cant cast spells. they fall under can_chant() 12:23 if they are silent, MS_BUZZ or MS_BURBLE 12:23 (there are a couple other conditions but they dont apply to this) 12:23 bleagh 12:24 burnt a ton of midnight oil finishing off role article touch-ups 12:24 imma sleep 12:24 later K2 12:25 cya 12:26 make that 9 forms since i had added more 12:26 giant beetle, rothe, woodchuck, giant centipede, stag, lizard, cave lizard, ent, petrified ent (all MS_SILENT) 12:27 rothe being silent doesnt sound right 12:27 couple others could use a review too 12:29 wouldnt be difficult to add what sounds a monster makes to the pokedex 12:29 bbl 12:29 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:30 can d&d druids cast spells with verbal or somatic components when wildshaped? I know in 3e you couldn't <-- depends 12:30 early editions, you couldnt at all 12:30 later editions, you could depending on the form and your experience level. once you reached a high enough level, only restriction was material compenent 12:31 gotta run back later 12:53 -!- ginebig has joined #evilhack 12:53 -!- ginebig is now known as Loggers_VIII 12:53 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Changing host] 12:53 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 1414 points, T:3110, killed by a coyote, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:21 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Kni Hum Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5024 (1:53:06) 13:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Kni Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:5234 (1:57:13) 14:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] rnhe (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 7906 points, T:4767, suffocated by a creeping mound 14:22 I'm unclear on the altar camping changes. Are they meant to limit the artifacts you can receive from your deity thus shifting them to the WoW's? 14:26 yes, no more receiving all giftable artifacts by altar camping 14:26 k2 didnt like how i spent turns 20k-80k 14:26 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) had a staff of war entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:31485 (7:06:03) 14:29 I'm in the same boat. I hate altar camping, but I need the other *brand to make dichotomy damnit 14:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] rnhe (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 473 points, T:2561, killed by a gas spore's explosion 14:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] rnhe (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 702 points, T:1786, diseased by a dwarf zombie, while helpless 14:46 i wonder if my hat helps to protect me from brainage as a pseudodragon 14:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Dru Elf Mal Neu), 739 points, T:1767, killed by a bugbear 14:57 <@Loggers_VIII> krm26: I'm pretty sure it does but don't quote me on it 15:01 yup it should 15:01 its still 'worn' 15:01 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 15:03 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:04 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 15:09 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Shrigis' ghost, the former Ovate, on T:2999 (0:18:39) 15:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1084 points, T:3400, killed by a rothe 15:17 -!- ginebig has joined #evilhack 15:17 -!- ginebig is now known as Loggers_VIII 15:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Mon Dro Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:728 (0:07:16) 15:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Mon Dro Mal Cha), 798 points, T:740, killed by a piranha 15:24 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4647 (0:33:17) 15:27 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5137 (0:36:13) 15:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Mon Dro Mal Cha), 1415 points, T:1220, killed by a magic missile 15:33 known as Logg 15:33 oops 15:34 you always have such interesting usernames, Loggers 15:39 I am called too many things in too many places I think 15:39 in nethack always loggers though :D 15:40 an internetional man of mystery 15:40 oh man 15:40 so a rothe is the d&d version of a bison basically 15:40 nethack has them as MS_SILENT 15:40 this is how a bison sounds - https://www.facebook.com/tatankabisonranch/videos/ive-been-asked-a-number-of-times-what-sounds-do-bison-make-watch-the-short-video/202820604205151/ 15:40 bison are loudd 15:41 it sounds like a lion lol 15:41 woah 15:41 thought it was the MGM intro for a sec 15:43 changing them to use MS_ROAR hah 15:43 woodchucks squeek 15:44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsnFsXFO7eY 15:44 'whistlepig' 15:45 I wish the source spelled squeak right 15:46 even if you have a character limitation for some reason MS_SQEAK > MS_SQEEK 15:46 some lizards hiss 15:46 esp the larger ones 15:46 and ents can talk 15:47 yeha i need to revamp some sounds 15:47 that'll open up spellcasting to several more wildshape forms 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:36959 (5:11:59) 15:55 I thought Roths were "cave cows" bred underground for evil dwarfs or something. Not sure where I picked that up. 15:58 nah a roth is a place in bavaria 15:59 it's also my neighbor's surname 15:59 I guess they're all Bavarian cave cows 16:00 bouquet its from early ad&d 16:01 dwarves and/or drow would sometimes keep them as livestock 16:01 that's my recollection 16:02 definitely going to keep an eye on my neighbors, though. 16:03 The ent discusses the state of the forest. 16:03 "what forest? we're in a dungeon if you didn't notice" 16:04 if you're lucky it'll ask you if you've seen any entwives 16:09 EvilHack Commits: Adjust sound flag for various monsters. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/f983288459cfe5954e82c98ed37550103c81c9e0 16:09 not going to bother adding what sounds a monster can make in the pokedex. it's not straightforward at all due to the different sounds just one sound flag type can make 16:09 is it peaceful? is it hostile? is it hungry? all different 16:10 noticed this while playing last night - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack#L10 16:10 love me some objnam.c !! 16:11 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:38210 (5:31:35) 16:12 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 205256 points, T:38244, killed by a shimmering dragon 16:14 hmm that may not be objnam.c 16:17 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 12128 points, T:9038, killed by Ms. Kanturk; the shopkeeper 16:24 omigod satyrs are brutal without a unihorn 16:25 or make yourself deaf 16:25 or wear a toque 16:25 or throw booze at them 16:26 yeah after 123k turns i am still entangle, aklys, brief ancient pseudodragon -- every trick i got :-) 16:27 nymphs should flee satyrs 16:29 man vortices are real pseudodragon-killers 16:30 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:39 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 16:40 you're really at 123k turns already? 16:40 krm26 16:42 !whereis krm26 16:42 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil]: (Dru Hob Fem Neu) T:13992 The Gnomish Mines level: 6 16:43 barely eking along 16:43 no altar camping at all 16:44 actually timed out my last pseudodragon, cant believe i stayed alive the whole time 16:44 \o/ 16:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3613 (0:41:54) 16:48 EvilHack Commits: Fix: grammar when deflecting a thrown projectile whle wearing a shiel… https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/f4c01c561d50da1905f804d70d8282c7d239c96b 16:49 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Dru Cen Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:566 (0:09:48) 16:49 so embarassing, 3 entangles and 20 rounds to kill a panther 16:55 heh 16:55 oh damn you see how quickly terrapin killed the GK? 16:56 stag wildform, waltzed up and kicked him to death 16:56 hell yeah 16:56 !who 16:56 K2: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] karibou [evil] terrapin [evil] krm26 [evil] Arch [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 16:56 i'll push these fixes later, one of them there shouldnt be anyone playing when i update 16:57 i could do eu/au now 16:59 ugh 120sp of force bolt and entangle to kill a black pudding 17:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:772 (0:01:47) 17:07 nice, quick kill 17:07 ancient pseudodragon ftw 17:08 im clearing the mines as an ancient pseudodragon and it is sweet -- got an early water troll but no problemo when it is asleep the whole time 17:09 on the other hand, the energy vortices in sokoban totally defeated me and i had to retreat 17:09 can go back and try entangle/aklysing them for a thousand turns when i lose my wildshape 17:10 i'm thinking entanglement shouldnt work against noncorporeal/whirly monsters 17:10 you shut your mouth! 17:10 lol 17:10 sensible 17:10 it is the only reason im not dead 17:10 * aosdict entangles krm26 17:11 in fact, i bet energy vortices will kill most druids if they cant entangle 17:11 energy v's kill most everything regardless 17:12 yeah I don't get how they're a druid-specific threat 17:12 @e?energy vortex 17:12 energy vortex (v) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 9 | Spd: 20 | Res: sleep disintegrate shock poison petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 30 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 1d6 engulf shock, 2d6 engulf magic drain, 0d4 passive shock | Align: 0 | genocidable, flies, breathless, mindless, unsolid, passes-bars, vegan 17:12 lots of people can't even cast entangle 17:12 turn into a stag and run away 17:13 i'm really liking stag wildshape just for the speed 17:13 I think a druid should have an easier time dealing with one than like a convict or tourist 17:13 to be fair, 20 speed is tough, but then, they must be very energetic :-) 17:14 Loggers_VIII, tourists and convicts are two of the weakest roles in the game. every other role has an easier time vs 17:14 druids arent going to have any reasonable ranged doohickeys 17:14 how do you figure 17:14 almost every other role has some kind of slightly-better than crap ranged trick in the early-mid game 17:14 sounds like someone needs to practice more with their aklys 17:14 slings and sling bullets enter chat 17:15 im all aklys all the time 17:15 that's on you :) 17:15 omigod you and your slings 17:15 k2: yeah I just mean that there are already roles who get roflstomped by energy vortex more than druid so it's not game breaking lol 17:15 didnt say it was gamebreaking 17:15 you're judging druid before you've fully experienced them 17:16 just play, get higher level, get your quest artifact 17:16 get all the spells 17:16 3rd/4th tier druid wildshape forms 17:16 i think if a single monster was enough to kill 'most druids' that'd be game breaking 17:16 bad for balance, anyway 17:17 i think you'll be singing a different tune about druids once you progress 17:17 idk you don't see those guys that early unless you're doing soko I feel like I usually have a lot of resources by the time I encounter one 17:17 they are a primary spellcaster class, so like wizards, they are gonna be a bit squishy starting out 17:18 but then a force to be reckoned with late game 17:18 i am happy to judge druids before fully experiencing them 17:18 i think they are awesome 17:18 ok 17:18 i will accept that judgement 17:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:829 (0:02:32) 17:19 btw terrapin ancient pseudodragons are speed 20 too apparently 17:19 i don't even care about game balance; playing around with polyforms is something i've never really bothered with before and it's great to have a role that allows that 17:19 :O 17:19 * K2 gasps 17:19 heh 17:19 I assumed they were slow for some reason 17:19 but it ain't so 17:19 makes sense, spry little weasely dragon 17:19 small and fast 17:19 not a lot of hp but the szie/speed and attack types make up for it 17:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6673 (1:17:58) 17:20 yeah it's like a glass cannon type deal 17:22 is it really a glass cannon? monsters don't attack each other all that much 17:22 I guess it's a glass cannon if you're directly fighting one 17:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:7112 (1:21:25) 17:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 2342 points, T:1996, killed by a rabid rat 17:27 aosdict: I mean when you're turned into one 17:35 The magical vines pass right through the energy vortex's form! 17:35 nooooo 17:35 what would be a better way to express that 17:36 not sure it deserves a ! 17:36 i feel it could be more betterly 17:36 yeah we can use a . there 17:36 The energy vortex is not ensnared. 17:36 borrinngggg 17:36 well yeah... that would be a given 17:37 avoid the temptation to make an overly long message 17:37 i know 17:37 why i am asking 17:37 that is actually one of the reservations I have about porting evilhack martial arts free kicks 17:37 i wouldnt, they suck 17:37 * K2 snickers 17:38 uhhh counterpoint those messages are badass and I like them 17:38 \o/ 17:38 the probably more relevant reservation is how they should work when the hero can't see what they're kicking (which might be a footrice) 17:38 I haven't played monk in awhile and I still have fond memories of stuff like "you leap up and butterfly kick the shambling horror!" 17:38 if it cant see it, it's just 'it' 17:39 but you know that you're leaping up and doing a butterfly kick 17:39 you used the word it 4 times in that sentence 17:39 it 17:39 5 17:39 in an 8 word sentence 17:39 what do i win 17:39 this signed copy of IT by stephen king 17:39 \o/ 17:39 eternal torture in the lake of fire 17:40 ...the book works too 17:42 Your spell is unable to entangle the the air elemental's form. 17:42 I don't think you need "form" 17:43 oooh dbl the there 17:43 look I don't have a signed copy of a book named "The" to give you 17:43 why not aosdict? it's letting the caster know *why* its not working 17:43 give your players some credit 17:43 have you seen Loggers_VIII? 17:43 hehehe 17:43 :P 17:44 "hmm why is my spell unable to entangle the air elemental? let me make an educated guess based on my knowledge of air elementals" 17:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Kni Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12993 (3:30:04) 17:44 I think the first message was the best personally 17:44 out of curiosity i zapped a wand of death at an energy vortex. no message is given for why it's immune 17:44 unplayable 17:44 i think no message for lack of entanglement would be okay 17:45 but seriously, you shrigis in here earlier thinking he couldnt breathe and was gonna die because he ran out of power to use winter wolf breath attack 17:45 *you had 17:45 heh 17:45 my first pound! 17:45 I kinda think the feedback for entanglement not entangling would be good 17:45 oooh it is a suffocater 17:46 no bueno 17:46 im running away 17:46 pound? 17:46 so either 'Your spell is unable to entangle the fog cloud's form.' or 'Your spell is unable to entangle the fog cloud.' 17:46 creeping mound, new symbol 17:46 I'll do you one better, 'Your spell fails to entangle the fog cloud' 17:46 gelcube lite 17:46 'Your spell cannot entangle the fog cloud'? 17:47 Loggers_VIII has it i think 17:47 oh are they '#'s in curses or something? 17:47 default/plain/DEC i think 17:47 yeah Loggers's is nice 17:47 when krm26 says pound he means like the currency I think 17:47 no, pound sign £ 17:48 # hash, £ pound 17:48 oh right! i see 17:48 # is also pound but it doesnt need multiple names 17:48 pound pound 17:49 uh oh where did that baby black dragon come from -- that's not a normal mines buddy 17:50 Your spell fails to entangle Loggers. 17:51 i'm too skinny, slip right out :p 17:51 fear me, the unentanglable 17:53 hah 17:57 EvilHack Commits: Evocation spell 'entangle' will not work against unsolid, whirly, or … https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/cae2d47e30b7009d3d13335dd884e5c27d89332e 18:00 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:00 heya Umbire 18:00 yo 18:00 what's new 18:01 things and stuff 18:02 !who 18:02 K2: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 18:02 krm26 save real quick 18:02 out 18:02 ok patched 18:02 may resume 18:02 does that take away my entangle on vortex? 18:02 yup 18:02 my death is on you buddy 18:02 but it allows 6 more druid whildshape forms to cast spells 18:03 *wildshape 18:03 krm26: you know, if you refuse to stop playing, he can't update 18:03 thats not entirely true, he can always kill my process 18:03 or i'd just patch 18:03 and you may or may not see weird things 18:04 awwww man, drow cleric on lvl 7? crap 18:04 entangle it 18:04 cast entangle, wildshape into a stag, run away 18:05 however, entangle just prevents movement. they can still cast/range attack 18:05 oh great, it is instead a chameleon, counting down to my first archlich 18:05 entangle! 18:05 drow cleric is more fucked up at range honestly 18:05 lol 18:05 they can summon giant centipedes you know 18:06 nasty 18:08 p'd off pedes 18:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1791 (0:06:48) 18:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 1452 points, T:1960, quit 18:16 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of reflection, on T:20437 (8:41:51) 18:19 well f me 18:19 threw a kelp at a deer. you feel guilty 18:19 DEER LOVE KELP 18:22 turns out you shouldn't pelt peacefuls with random food to see if they're domestic or not 18:22 stupid goblin king had a wand of fire 18:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 652 points, T:1551, killed by a bolt of fire 18:23 yknow I thought I had escaped for a second there... 18:23 slow tortle :( 18:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 248 points, T:1070, killed by a small mimic 18:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 103 points, T:391, burned by molten lava 18:29 thats one way to beat the cold 18:30 kelp is considered DOG_FOOD to herbivores 18:30 K2: can druids spawn with evocation spells beside entangle? 18:30 yes 18:30 entangle is guaranteed 18:30 I've died and scammed a lot and haven't gotten for example barkskin 18:30 2nd spellbook is random 18:30 s/scammed/scummed 18:30 ah just bad luck then 18:31 why would feeding a deer kelp make you feel guilty? are druids supposed to be "don't feed the animals"? 18:31 deer are M1_HERBIVORE 18:31 i dont know 18:31 it shouldnt 18:31 deer aren't domestic 18:31 ah right 18:32 there ya go krm26 18:32 what the heck ive hit this creeping mound with my aklys 50 times 18:33 c-c-c-combo 18:34 I outright mentioned the domestic thing lmao 18:35 oh damn another thing i forgot to implement 18:36 combo? :P 18:36 you know how convicts can chat up rats and make them peaceful? 18:36 druids chat up woodland creatures, same thing 18:36 I wonder how interesting you could make a nethack combo meter 18:36 by midgame when you're not missing anything it would be uninteresting 18:37 perhaps 18:37 but flavor-wise it fits 18:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2503 (0:09:14) 18:39 so should we get rid of that ability for convicts then? because aosdict finds it uninteresting? :) 18:39 k2: he was referring to the 'combo meter' thing lol 18:39 yes 18:39 yes to what 18:39 Loggers_VIII comment or mine 18:39 no comment on chatting monsters to pacify them 18:39 a combo meter isn't that interesting 18:39 ok 18:40 also, I just prayed and my god turned me back to tortle form from pseudodragon :< 18:40 what the heck silvanus 18:40 a throne just set my dex to 4 18:40 FOUR 18:40 waddahell 18:40 my ass ain't gonna be hitting SHIT 18:41 ... 18:41 so much to unpack there 18:41 I mean you can probably make it hit the throne again, even with dex that bad 18:41 aosdict you should give druid a spin 18:41 heh aosdict 18:41 we've talked about druid for so long 18:41 and now here it is 18:41 the "god turns you back to regular form from poly" should probably be changed 18:42 you want me to put down my merge conflicts and PLAY a GAME??? I think not 18:42 hah 18:42 I forget what conditions cause them to do that 18:42 Loggers_VIII yeah probably 18:42 i love this part 18:42 new release, start to flesh out things 18:42 tweak/fix/fine tune 18:43 omg my dex is so low that my natural AC is only 1 :( 18:43 i'm hoping for once there arent major wrong things found like in previous releases 18:43 hehehe inb4 someone kills Saint Michael and the portal out doesn't spawn 18:43 would like to make 0.9.0 official and get to work on 0.9.1 18:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Dru Trt Mal Neu), 3382 points, T:3838, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 18:46 k2 you bastard... keeping poison instadeath in your silly variant... 18:46 get more poison res 18:59 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:01 just dbl-checking myself here... !mtmp->mpeaceful implies not tame yeah? 19:01 seeing some not needed code... 19:01 yup 19:01 mtmp->tame && !mtmp->peaceful should never happen 19:02 I wonder if there's a sanity check for that 19:02 seeing this for the convict chat to rats code block 19:02 if (!mtmp->mpeaceful && !mtmp->mtame) { 19:02 yes there is a sanity check for that 19:03 kk 19:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:1380 (0:06:32) 19:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 921 points, T:1532, killed by a bugbear 19:16 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Dru Cen Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1809 (0:34:12) 19:23 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Dru Cen Fem Neu), 4731 points, T:2604, killed by a hill orc 19:32 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:43 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Dru Hum Fem Neu), 1108 points, T:1895, killed by a jackal 19:46 EvilHack Commits: Druids can chat with woodland creatures, possibly making them peacefu… https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/7b9f845e0f9f2450f2e2f4f2faa4fb2ae540cf61 19:48 all this druid stuff is making me wonder about how to flavor up rangers a bit 19:49 heh 20:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 3981 points, T:8625, killed by a chameleon imitating a saber-toothed tiger, while paralyzed by a monster 20:09 that latest commit is live 20:10 krm26 you dont have to throw kelp anymore 20:11 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1595 (0:39:50) 20:12 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Kni Dro Mal Cha), 511 points, T:1006, killed by a hobbit pickpocket 20:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 150 points, T:713, killed by a small mimic 20:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:1275 (0:05:47) 20:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 620 points, T:1283, killed by a piranha 20:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 139 points, T:645, killed by a fox 20:20 too late, i am punished for my kelp assault 20:31 ooh skeletal horse pet 20:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 483 points, T:1507, killed by a giant bat 20:57 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:41385 (9:34:19) 21:04 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.3.1] 21:05 "huge" is still engulfable, right? so a creeping mound will still smoke me as a cave bear 21:08 ...no. Huge and larger can't be engulfed 21:08 at least not remotely that I'm aware 21:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3129 (0:27:34) 21:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:17953 (9:04:19) 21:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Arch (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 655 points, T:3502, killed by a sewer rat 21:33 engulfers can only engulf large or smaller 21:34 cool beans cave bear it is 21:37 krm26 where did you see a skeletal horse pet. bones? 21:43 poly trap 21:43 i kept going and ended up with a flind, which is better than a sharp stick in the eye, but isnt a dragon 21:48 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 1315 points, T:2432, killed by a crossbow bolt 21:50 gotcha 21:51 like pseudodragons, the skeletal pets that draugr can start with wont spawn normally, but they are still a valid poly target 21:51 when druids read spellbooks, is their comprehension chance still int + 4 etc, or do they use wis? 21:51 they use wis 21:51 hmm 21:51 yeah its all wis based for druids 21:52 so you actually changed that for specifically druids? 21:52 no 21:52 then it should be int 21:52 i am making an assumption in that regard 21:52 because int is still used for succesfully reading spellbooks even if the role is a wis caster 21:52 yeah that is vanilla way 21:52 yeah that sounds right lol 21:52 which is laaaame 21:52 no 21:52 gotta know what you're reading 21:53 it is not my experience that people gotta know what theyre reading 21:53 maybe you interact with a higher class of people 21:54 what's that quote... 21:54 intelligence is "knowing what to do," while wisdom is "knowing when and why to do it." 21:54 wisdom has nothing to do with *knowing* how to read 21:55 oh i remember 21:55 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 744 points, T:849, killed by a rock gnome 21:55 i mean, it is magic, so handwave whatever 21:55 intelligence is recognizing it's about to rain. wisdom is packing an umbrella 21:55 after all in dnd the spell imprints itself on your mind and then vanishes when you use it 21:55 yeah 21:56 and you have to rest/pray to get them back 21:56 your intelligence tells you you are right. your wisdom tells you your wife is right 21:56 lol 21:56 ugh so just rocking a 75% chance at these damn books 21:57 ooh finally a spell i can use when wildshaped, burning hands 21:57 hopefully it works without hands 21:57 i want to burning snake belly someone 21:58 also, shouldnt i get bare handed combat skill for whapping things in animal form!? 21:59 i want a fighting skill for each different polyform now 21:59 honestly, i'm not sure your melee skills train when polyd 21:59 or at least like "fighting as quadruped", "fighting as wormlike", etc :-) 21:59 (they def dont) 22:00 actually now that ive said it 22:00 envision a separate skill menu just used to track how much time you've spent in every form you've polyd to 22:00 hmm i see another issue 22:00 so you could skill up as ancient pseudodragon 22:00 getting used to the serpenty body and stuff 22:00 You turn into a cave bear! You find you must release your sword! 22:00 Your paws are engulfed in an orange flame. 22:00 even with no game effect it would be so cool -- very skilled at cave bear! 22:00 ^ cast burning hands 22:00 and then 22:01 You claw the test monster. You claw the test monster. You bite the test monster. 22:01 burning hands isnt kicking in 22:01 awww monster attacks dont qualify as hand-melee stuff? 22:01 figures 22:01 i lodge a drood complaint 22:01 adding it to the pad 22:02 that would help make forms viable deeper in the dungeon presumably 22:02 shocking hands would be affected too 22:02 did you see the 4th tier monsters? 22:02 <@Loggers_VIII> my mr-less wizard that died to tal’gath was also weaponless and he was casting shocking grasp all the damn time 22:02 ive just been looking at them as i unlock, so not yet 22:02 <@Loggers_VIII> pretty great actually 22:02 petrified ent and other stuff? 22:02 yeah 22:03 <@Loggers_VIII> giant centipede, dire wolverine, Pegasus, petrified ent 22:03 did you also not read the commit notes regarding wildshape? 22:03 about the to-hit and damage bonuses? 22:03 i mean i skimmed but my int is so low 22:03 go read 22:03 i only have an int +4 + xplev/2 chance of understanding 22:03 so, 4 22:03 ask your wife to read it and explain it to you 22:03 shes in newark 22:04 wasnt cold enough in orlando 22:04 got a phone? :) 22:04 doesnt dialing count as reading 22:06 heh 22:11 oops, died to a tree blight 22:11 didnt realize it was a monster 22:11 yup gotta be careful 22:12 they look just like dead trees 22:12 same way in ad&d 22:12 i saw it there amid the twigs but just thought it was a tree 22:12 nothing to do since it grabbed me i guess 22:12 prayer doesnt do much for that 22:12 i'm not seeing why burning hands isnt working when polyd 22:13 well, gonna leave an amazing level 3 mines bones for someone 22:13 there's no purposeful restriction that i added 22:13 lemme dig deeper 22:14 i bet its something in uhitm.c 22:15 hm, will force bolt potentially knock it back and make it release me? or am i just fantasizing? 22:15 tree blight is too big to knockback 22:16 fksddkjf 22:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Dru Hob Fem Neu), 47652 points, T:20288, killed by a tree blight 22:16 and so good night! 22:19 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/7b9f845e0f9f2450f2e2f4f2faa4fb2ae540cf61/src/uhitm.c#L655 22:19 gnite krm26 22:19 nice catch terrapin 22:20 i was scanning lower in the file (and found another minor bug) 22:22 gonna need to add conditions for burning hands/shocking grasp to hmonas 22:29 it's tricky because the current feedback for e.g. a gray unicorn on cast is "your forehooves are engulfed in bright orange flame" 22:29 i think we can make it work 22:29 but kicks maybe shouldn't get the bonus because then centaur auxiliary kicks would trigger it as well 22:30 going to whip up something quick just to see if it'll work, fine tune it after the fact 22:30 cool 22:33 is it the monsters lacking hands or something else 22:33 something else 22:33 look at the link terrapin shared 22:33 I see 22:46 first attempt test in progress 22:46 heh 22:49 looks like it works, but in hitum, the feedback was peeled off from the actual effects 22:50 so i gotta combine that here 22:50 the extra damage is happening though i think 22:50 lemme give test monster some scrolls and potions :) 22:50 You claw the test monster. You claw the test monster. The test monster's potion of extra healing boils and explodes! 22:51 \o/ 22:51 brb 23:15 weeee 23:15 You claw the test monster. You burn the test monster with your paws! Your paws no longer burn so brightly. 23:15 You claw the test monster. You burn the test monster with your paws! Your paws no longer burn so brightly. 23:15 You bite the test monster. 23:15 You claw the test monster. You burn the test monster with your paws! 23:15 The test monster's spellbook of repair armor catches fire and burns! The test monster's spellbook of entangle catches fire and burns! 23:15 Your paws stop burning orange. You claw the test monster. You bite the test monster. 23:16 woo! 23:16 heh it just crashed turning a paper golem into ash 23:16 kinda figured it would 23:28 hrm 23:28 it all works fine except for the instakill bit with paper golems and the like 23:30 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Dru Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray unicorn, on T:4159 (0:44:30) 23:30 i'll figure it out 23:34 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 2569 points, T:2389, quit 23:36 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Dru Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4506 (0:50:59) 23:38 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Dru Hum Mal Neu), 4219 points, T:4827, killed by a warg 23:39 nooo 23:40 got jumped by a band of uruk-hai riders, and orc captain, and a shaman 23:40 i really like how the groups of monsters are fleshed out like that 23:41 except when they all attack me, of course 23:55 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest2976 23:55 -!- Guest2976 has quit [Killed (molybdenum.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 23:55 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack