00:28 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Gno Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3949 (0:43:41) 00:29 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Gno Fem Cha), 2312 points, T:3957, killed by a giant mosquito 00:33 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 14 glass shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:7892 (0:55:26) 00:34 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 00:38 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:8398 (1:00:14) 00:44 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 18 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:8915 (1:06:51) 00:52 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a gold helm of telepathy entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:9537 (1:14:36) 00:59 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of gauntlets of protection entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:10159 (1:21:48) 01:02 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:10894 (1:24:38) 01:04 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:05 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:11419 (1:27:48) 01:06 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 01:09 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 01:09 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 01:14 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a cloak of invisibility entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:11750 (1:36:29) 01:19 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:24 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:12767 (1:47:10) 01:43 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:44 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 01:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 7446 points, T:5476, killed by an invisible mountain dwarf, while being terrified of a ghost 02:09 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a pair of leather gauntlets of protection, on T:17125 (2:31:39) 02:12 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 940 points, T:2248, killed by a goblin shaman 02:13 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating an egg, on T:4261 (1:18:33) 02:20 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:20 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 02:28 Yet another random WoW, just on the floor. 02:28 I never know what to wish for, pre-soko. :sob: 02:30 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide boots of speed", on T:5103 (1:36:17) 02:34 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 21 darts on an altar, on T:5562 (1:39:27) 02:43 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2210 points, T:2596, killed by a rabid dog 02:49 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:55 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6618 (2:00:36) 03:04 terrapin: You seem to be correct, not even a magic key can fix it: 03:04 > You can't fix its broken lock with an uncursed ornate key 03:05 Had to use a spell of knock. 03:07 > Your wand of wishing breaks apart and explodes! 03:07 That's... Annoying. 03:19 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 44688 points, T:9325, poisoned by a locust, while paralyzed by a monster 03:28 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:31 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:46 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:47 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 03:48 "Jester dies from his illness" 03:48 good riddance, but Jester was a djinni and I thought that all & had sickness res 04:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Trt Fem Neu) used a forge to create Dichotomy, on T:74227 (1 day, 14:59:58) 04:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Trt Fem Neu) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:74248 (1 day, 15:00:49) 05:14 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Dra Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:1329 (0:08:42) 05:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Dra Mal Cha) had a wooden long sword entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:1347 (0:08:52) 05:22 <@shrigis> Looks like the wiki is wrong, you can actually get dirge on a cross-aligned altar 05:26 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Dra Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1942 (0:14:07) 05:27 that's weird 05:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Dra Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (antimatter vortices), on T:2006 (0:15:52) 05:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Dra Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2300 (0:19:36) 05:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Dra Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3258 (0:26:35) 05:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:694 (0:03:46) 05:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Trt Fem Neu) genocided mind flayers, on T:75079 (1 day, 15:24:41) 05:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Trt Fem Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:75080 (1 day, 15:24:54) 05:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 686 points, T:1427, killed by a bugbear, while fainted from lack of food 05:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:518 (0:02:10) 06:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) murdered MiisuBoi, her faithful little dog, on T:1738 (0:10:02) 06:09 -!- malor_ has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 06:09 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 06:27 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:27 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 06:30 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 06:30 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 06:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4332 (0:34:02) 06:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:4895 (0:43:52) 07:11 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:13 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6919 (1:06:39) 07:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 7732 points, T:6922, killed by a yeti 07:33 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 07:33 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:38 mobileuser, not all & are demons 07:38 ah... 07:38 hmm 07:38 @shrigis interesting 07:39 getting dirge on a cross-aligned altar 07:39 sandestin, djinni and the Riders 07:40 si 07:40 and in evilhack, test monster 07:40 lol 07:40 but you'll never see one in game 07:40 :P 07:55 about to start asc run and nervous, how are others so blasé about it :-) 07:58 the booze helps 08:07 aha! I diluted them all, that's the mistake 08:09 basilisk attacking soldiers in the wizard tower barracks, wtf 08:09 not using conflict 08:10 must be my invisibilty 08:18 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1172 (0:15:45) 08:20 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:25 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 08:35 <@Loggers_VIII> if I get to the ascrun in evil I’m either gonna die on astral or ascend so the rest doesn’t stress me out all that much lol 08:36 <@Loggers_VIII> Lucifer and purgatory are very dangerous but they’re super consistent too 08:36 <@Loggers_VIII> astral can turn into a real shitshow on a dime 08:38 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 5057 points, T:1893, poisoned by a giant cockroach 08:43 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:68141 (11:20:55) 08:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Trt Fem Neu) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:76371 (1 day, 17:06:36) 08:46 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 08:46 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:47 Caeleben the Heresiarch wields a crysknife! 08:47 fancy 08:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:76429 (1 day, 17:13:45) 08:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Trt Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:76432 (1 day, 17:13:51) 08:52 part 1 08:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) murdered Fido, her faithful little dog, on T:114 (0:01:21) 08:58 before the woolly nerf, the astral plane was the place where I could finally relax... 08:59 woah market at the wizard 08:59 I didn't even know that had a chance of a marker 09:00 <@Loggers_VIII> it’s 50% even I think 09:02 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 09:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Trt Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:76464 (1 day, 17:22:00) 09:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:1928 (0:20:13) 09:16 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2134 (0:22:42) 09:22 that high? first time for me 09:32 like 90% sure 09:33 4/5 Loggers Committee members agree 09:33 ...4.5/5? 09:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed the giant high priest of Moloch, on T:76704 (1 day, 17:44:03) 09:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Trt Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:76709 (1 day, 17:45:05) 09:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4606 (0:43:22) 09:37 at the wizard? i get 20% marker 09:37 which checks out with 90% loggers 09:38 but again, at rodney/amulet, ive never cared about markers 09:38 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:49 yeah but after 150.000 turns you usually have all the crap you need already and almost all monsters have been genocided ;-) 09:50 I finally figured out how to place a boulder next to Lucifer as non-giant 09:50 to the left I mean 09:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed Lucifer, on T:76871 (1 day, 18:03:14) 09:55 \o/ 09:55 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:56 poor lucifer 09:57 fuck that guy 09:57 lucifer was right 09:57 he killed me so many times before I figured out how to deal with him 09:57 what is your strategy 09:58 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 09:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Trt Fem Neu) entered Purgatory, on T:76903 (1 day, 18:07:12) 10:00 boulder fort, but I started the boulder fort to the far left with 2 earth scrolls 10:00 that allowed me to push a boulder up without moving 10:01 and then move myself into position, 1 to the right 10:02 i guess i dont get it...you are trying to put a boulder in front of the secret door? 10:03 a boulder left of Lucifer, 1 less useless spot for him to teleport to 10:03 i suppose, but he still has SO MANY useless spots to use 10:04 my strategy for dealing with Lucifer is to attack him with SoA and hope I disintegrate him on the first hit and it just works 10:04 yes, not that it matters much, just found it funny to figure it out 10:05 yeah thats not a strategy loggers 10:05 i wont melee that guy unless i have the hotdog or grazzt is already dead 10:06 my actual strategy is to just use paralysis potions and full healing lol 10:07 I just don't like the risk the para pot misses 10:07 i never make good use of paralysis potions, they seem so fiddly -- can get nuked out of your hand, you can miss, etc 10:07 potions in open inventory are so vulnerable 10:08 if i could fooproof a potion! 10:08 meh just hope he doesn't explode them, works well enough for me 10:08 dichotomy helps 10:08 ...you do need a lot of para pots, though 10:08 I usually make do with 2 or 3 but more is advised 10:08 they were smoky in my game. 0 wishes :-( 10:09 that reminds me mobileuser -- did i complain to you about my last game with smoky see invis? made like 50 smoky potions, got one angry djin 10:09 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Mal Una) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:643 (0:03:47) 10:10 it is like the rng isnt even trying to hide it any more 10:16 I did have a tame djinni form a magic lmap 10:16 * from 10:21 if you get a tame djinni up to fiercely loyal (which i dont think is possible) it should grant you its wish when you #chat with it :-) 10:25 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1994 (0:19:15) 10:29 I have a vague memory that the next evilhack version allows you to increase tameness with taming scrolls, even with high MR pets 10:30 but maybe I was only dreaming :-) 10:32 krm26: the flavor reason for djinn being your ally instead of giving you a wish is that they're out of wishes 10:32 (they tell you if you #chat to them) 10:36 bbl 10:36 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Mal Una), 3947 points, T:3809, killed by a homunculus, while frozen by a monster's gaze 10:38 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:39 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 10:53 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1165 (0:06:53) 10:54 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Fem Una) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:1237 (0:07:42) 10:56 mobileuser: the tameness thing was done in 3.7 about 1 1/2 months ago 10:58 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:18 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Fem Una) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:4044 (0:31:08) 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Fem Una), 3664 points, T:4120, killed by a dog, while praying 11:22 has there been any atheist infidel ascension yet? 11:31 not to my knowledge. get on it! 11:31 nethackscoreboard doesnt give you a way to list all of the ascensions of a variant role which would be interesting 11:38 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 2065 points, T:2474, killed by the Goblin King 11:45 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 11:47 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Client Quit] 11:49 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1872 (0:10:35) 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (large mimics), on T:1915 (0:11:23) 11:57 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3440 (0:18:59) 12:18 -!- bigchopchop has joined #evilhack 12:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 26177 points, T:10932, killed by a gremlin, while praying 12:33 !who 12:33 K2: [hdf-us] DragonSidedD [evil] coplate [evil] dbanethacker [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 12:39 bhaak you around? I have a question for you 12:40 you seem to be the devteam expert concerning how the game displays things 12:40 maybe he's like beetlejuice, if I say his name 3 times he'll appear 12:40 bhaak bhaak bhaak 12:40 * K2 looks around 12:40 :/ 12:56 Try ranting about UnNetHack. 12:56 i dont think that will work. so many people rant about unnethack, he prob just ignores it all by now 12:56 :P 12:57 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2658 <--- my issue 12:57 sometimes while fuzzing, the game for whatever reason will change the charset to that 12:58 <[> K2: I think it's because the fuzzer manages to open the options menu and mess up the symset option 12:58 yeah 12:58 <[> I just do "shell reset" from gdb to reset the terminal 12:59 ah yeah that's the cmd 12:59 thanks 12:59 unfortunately when you do that, if there was anything on the screen that gave clues to what caused a crash, you lose it 13:00 ideally it'd be nice if the fuzzer just didnt mess with symset options 13:01 not sure if you can granually adjust that 13:01 <[> the other options are to run gdb in a seperate terminal and attach it to the process with -p/attach, or to prevent the symset option from being set while in fuzzer mode 13:01 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:01 ' or to prevent the symset option from being set while in fuzzer mode' <--- ideal solution imo 13:01 <[> (although the former might not help, if your terminal isn't configured for whatever symset it's using) 13:01 fwiw I don't think I've had this problem in 3.7 13:01 i'll need to look 13:02 hopefully you're not stuck with the fuzzer either accessing all options or none at all 13:03 <[> it's definitely possible 13:04 <[> } else if (!strcmp("symset", optname) 13:04 <[> || !strcmp("roguesymset", optname)) { 13:04 <[> probably look somewhere after this in src/options.c 13:05 yup in that file already 13:05 it looks like there's a bit in here preventing the fuzzer from adjusting a particular option 13:06 <[> maybe just "if (iflags.debug_fuzzer) return TRUE;" after that line. I don't know, I haven't tested 13:07 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Dra Mal Cha) had a leather cloak of protection entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:8915 (1:16:30) 13:08 hackemslashem thanks, so it was 3.7 I was remembering 13:09 Is it the symset for blind users that's really wonky? 13:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Dra Mal Cha) had a pair of cloth gloves entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:9487 (1:19:58) 13:13 always lots of messages like this when you enter Purgatory: "Thrun the Slayer puts a celestial-scaled wooden splint mail into his oilskin 13:13 sack." 13:13 K2 is it possible that the game generates double asc kits for the player monsters? 13:14 there's the initial kit of they are below level 10/20 13:14 *if 13:15 then there's the better gear kits when at or above level 10, and then 20 13:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Dra Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:10069 (1:24:35) 13:15 i can dbl check to see 13:18 [ I made a couple edits to options.c to (hopefully) prevent the fuzzer from changing symset 13:18 testing 13:18 aaaand no it did not work 13:21 Thrun the Slayer was putting an entire kit in his sack, but also wearing one 13:21 slayer... that's barbarian yeah? 13:21 hobbit 13:21 its a hobbit 13:21 oh weird 13:22 invisible dwarven barbarian called Thrun the Slayer 13:22 last time it said hobbit? 13:22 what did you break mobileuser?? 13:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Dra Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of reflection, on T:11053 (1:31:39) 13:22 lol 13:22 :P 13:23 sorry, it keeps saying dwarf now 13:23 you been smoking hothraxxa's weed? 13:24 HAX 13:24 heh 13:24 :) 13:24 i'll have a look 13:25 YANI you have to kill all the player monsters in Purgatory 1 or the stairs won't work 13:25 oooh that's evil 13:25 it's a bug really that you can just avoid them ;-) 13:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:3596 (1:06:59) 13:30 avoid as in phase through the woods? 13:30 either that or tele them away from you 13:32 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4362 (1:13:10) 13:39 K2 teleport usually 13:40 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 19602 points, T:10055, killed by Ms. Glenbeigh; the shopkeeper 13:40 they could all have rings of teleport control 13:47 food time... 13:47 fooood 13:59 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:11 <@shrigis> Oh wow you guys still haven't fixed that bug where the peaceful knights on the knight quest home level generate with cloaks of invisibility even when you don't have see invisible so you just see a peaceful horse but when you try to swap places with it you instead attack the invisible guy riding it and anger him 14:15 that's not necessarily a bug... 14:17 but yeah 14:19 that might be the only quest where player monsters are deliberately set to spawn 14:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Dra Mal Cha) killed the invisible Ixoth, on T:18540 (2:29:12) 14:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Dra Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:18609 (2:29:26) 14:20 @shrigis what exp level are you? 14:20 <@shrigis> 12 14:20 ok 14:21 I ask because cloaks of invis arent part of any of the player monster kits until exp level 20 or higher 14:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Dra Mal Cha) completed his quest without incident, on T:18684 (2:31:18) 14:22 aaah hah 14:24 correction - there's a small chance a level 10 or gerater player monster can spaen with a level 20 kit 14:25 very small chance 14:25 and from that there's 8 level 20 kits to randomly choose from 14:25 <@shrigis> This exact thing has happened to me twice already 14:25 in a row? 14:25 or just in general 14:25 <@shrigis> I really feel like waking into a peaceful horse with in invisible rider should not attack the rider 14:25 <@shrigis> In general 14:26 if a monster is invisible and you cant see them, it doesnt matter if they are hostile or peaceful/tame, if you walk into them it makes them angry 14:26 ^ vanilla rules 14:27 monster rider/steed pairs, you always 'attack' the rider first 14:27 which is why it behaves that way 14:31 <@shrigis> That doesn't feel right from a gameplay perspective, all i see is: 14:31 <@shrigis> 1. There is a peaceful horse in the hallway 14:31 <@shrigis> 2. I want to swap places with the peaceful horse 14:31 <@shrigis> 3. My character without warning attacks a dude i didn't even know was there and angers him???? 14:32 i have an idea 14:32 Just eliminate the "swap places with a peaceful monster" mechanic. Problem solved. 14:32 no 14:32 that's not the idea 14:33 Make the rider's cloak of invisibility also apply to the mount? 14:34 (Doesn't that work for the player?) 14:34 K2: have you verified that that restricting the symset options helps? to me it looks like the terminal gets set into the alternate charset mode (the mode that it's used for DECgraphics) but not by the code but probably by the input of the fuzzer? 14:34 no it doesnt 14:34 but i had considered that 14:35 bhaak I tried a couple restrive changes, none helped 14:35 in a normal terminal, issuing "echo ctrl-v ctrl-o" would break you out of it 14:35 *restrictive 14:35 <@shrigis> > Just eliminate the "swap places with a peaceful monster" mechanic. Problem solved. 14:35 <@shrigis> That wouldn't even solve the issue because it would still attack the invisible dude before asking to attack the horse 14:35 @shrigis as it should 14:36 EPI: peaceful monsters get angry if you hover the mouse cursor over them. Call it the "enderman patch". 14:37 i'm leaning towards (assuming peaceful) 'if rider/steed pair, and rider is invis, rider/steed pair refuse to swap places' 14:38 in hack.c there are a few conditions already set that disallows swapping with a peaceful/tame. wouldnt be difficult to add another condition 14:39 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:7433 (2:08:33) 14:39 K2: But that's seems so _reasonable_, it is hardly evil at all. 14:40 evilhack isnt evil in a 'fuck you' kind of evil way, it's evil as in 'gdamn this game is really hard and challenging' 14:40 K2: I guess it's 'case 14: c = (char) rnd(iflags.wc_eight_bit_input ? 255 : 127);' that issues the ASCII SI control code (AFAIR it mus have issues an ESC first?). it's a bit excessive to output control characters. you could try to filter out 14 and 15 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shift_Out_and_Shift_In_characters) from that. 14:41 I'm not sure why unnethack and vanilla are not affected. is it only in the browser terminal or also in a "real" one? 14:41 bhaak i'm on a windows computer using putty to remote access my wizmode box 14:42 one thing i havent done, is run the fuzzer directly on that machine 14:43 as in plug a monitor kboard/mouse into it and start it that way (it's a headless server) 14:43 K2: what's your putty settings in "Translation"? 14:44 depends on the profile i use, but typically for the wizmode box its utf-8 14:44 what about the "Enable VT100 line drawing even in UTF-8 mode"? 14:44 lemme check 14:45 that is checked 14:45 then it's very likely this one 14:45 enabled 14:45 K2: Yes, I know; I just have a weird sense of humor. 14:45 jonadab :P 14:45 bhaak so perhaps disable that setting 14:45 yes, this should do it. 14:45 cool thanks bhaak 14:45 i will try that 14:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2015 (0:30:58) 14:46 you'll have to live with DECgraphics not working, though. 14:46 i'm ok with that 14:46 it should work again in 3.7 though if I'm not mistaken (and you're sending an utf8 locale) 14:46 i have 2 profiles when i access my wizmode box - normal (utf-8) and the 2nd one is when I spin up a game to test changes (CP437, ibmgraphics) 14:47 i typically fuxx on the 1st profile 14:47 lol 14:47 FUZZ 14:47 New Conduct: Every time your character takes hitpoint damage, you eat a hot pepper IRL. If you use up an amulet of life saving, you have to eat a box of raisins IRL. 14:47 i love raisins 14:48 Yes, but an entire box of them is a lot of fiber. 14:48 do you mean a lunch box size box that mom used to pack in your school lunch? 14:48 or the big box 14:48 I was thinking the normal size box, that you have in the cupboard at home and use when you make raisin cookies. 14:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Dra Mal Cha) had a dwarvish spear entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:20096 (2:58:18) 14:49 yeah that's a lot of fiber indeed 14:49 Same size as a box of prunes. 14:49 @shrigis i got ya, i'll figure out a solution to that issue 14:50 Alternately, could go with a couple of over-ripe bananas. 14:51 bhaak - fuzzing now with 'Enable VT100 line drawing even in UTF-8 mode' disabled 14:51 we'll see how it goes 14:51 i can see how decgraphics mode looks like a bunch of lqqqqqqqqqqq lines hah 14:51 I'm curious why the knight's horses would be peaceful when other mon-steeds are probably hostile like orcs on wargs 14:52 i wanna say, the way it works is, if the rider spawns peaceful, so does its steed 14:53 orcs are generally hostile 14:54 1 million turns in fuzzing, nothing funky yet 14:54 still looks good 14:55 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:20582 (3:57:55) 14:55 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:549 (0:01:51) 14:56 hostile monsters make their steed hostile whenever they opt to mount one, iirc 14:57 yup 14:58 K2: oh right... I forgot the riders were peaceful. 14:58 i need to review the code agin but that sounds legit 15:01 bhaak i think that did the trick 15:01 i'm 5 mil turns in, by now something would have changed usually 15:02 grats, that shell reset bs was always annoying 15:04 i'm glad I didnt have to edit something in the game code to fix it 15:04 was a me problem, not a game problem 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1996 (0:09:49) 15:08 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2330 (0:12:13) 15:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Dra Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:22486 (3:18:07) 15:12 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:14 getting close to 10 mil turns fuzzing, still god 15:14 good 15:14 i think we can call this one solved 15:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1947 (0:13:40) 15:17 EvilHack Commits: Beginning Purgatory level tweaks. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/75c388870bdc3518045b93eceabcdc46ecdf7162 15:18 <[> why are hostile monsters able to ride peaceful steeds? 15:18 <[> players aren't able to ride peaceful steeds 15:18 <[> (never mind, the player monster was peaceful, it was just invisible) 15:22 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:25 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5777 (0:32:29) 15:26 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 5982 points, T:6414, killed by a gnome king 15:26 all this work on evilhack is great but what about all the work that needs to be done getting people to leave me good bones 15:28 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 15:32 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an Olog-hai, on T:23757 (4:35:03) 15:34 krm26: you mean more people that suck should play evilhack? 15:34 mobileuser i see why player monsters are getting double gear 15:34 it's only on astral 15:35 ...and on purgatory 1? 15:36 in mplayer.c there's a whole routine for kitting them out, but then evilhack sets up their gear when they spawn outside of astral (wich they dont in vanilla) 15:36 on purgatory? player monsters and spectres grudge each other 15:36 maybe it killed one and took its stuff 15:37 nah you always get these "bag" messages as soon as you enter 15:37 hmm 15:37 a full asc kit went into that bag 15:40 yeah can confirm 15:40 interesting 15:41 if I had a nickel for every instance of generation weirdness involving player monsters that I have to document, I would have two nickels 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Dra Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:25849 (3:50:45) 15:42 ahhh i see why its happening 15:42 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful demilich, on T:8 (0:00:08) 15:42 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1176 points, T:12, escaped 15:42 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 (0:00:01) 15:43 honestly, the entire chunk of code that kits out player monsters should have gone into mplayer.c 15:43 OR 15:43 all the bits of code kitting out player monsters taken out of mplayer.c 15:43 just have it in one place, not two 15:44 mobileuser in this instance, when purgatory was created, you're guaranteed to encounter several player monsters. 15:44 yes 15:45 the code in mk_mplayer() assumes you wont really see any until you're either in the endgame (planes) or you have the amulet 15:46 now with purgatory, boom all sorts of player monsters 15:46 so this little quirk hadn't really been observed until the inclusion of purgatory 15:46 same quirk has existed since the beginning of evilhack most likely 15:48 Probably 15:48 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful shadow dragon, on T:7 (0:00:09) 15:48 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3272 points, T:9, escaped 15:48 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful plains centaur, on T:5 (0:00:05) 15:51 nice to have it confirmed :-) 15:51 will address 16:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Trt Fem Neu) genocided basilisks, on T:77686 (1 day, 19:00:37) 16:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Trt Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:77867 (1 day, 19:06:48) 16:13 dishes to do... 16:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a mastodon), on T:27089 (4:17:30) 16:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a mastodon), on T:27095 (4:17:57) 16:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Dra Mal Cha), 291361 points, T:27098, killed by Kathryn the Ice Queen, while attempting to cheat Death 16:26 oof, gg 16:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8693 (1:20:22) 16:31 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:33 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:11226 (3:34:40) 16:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 24054 points, T:9799, killed by a human watchman 16:47 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible Yeshua's ghost, the former Magician, on T:4806 (1:03:09) 16:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Trt Fem Neu) genocided electric eels, on T:78017 (1 day, 19:22:34) 16:49 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 16:49 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a magical mithril cubical amulet on an altar, on T:4901 (1:04:41) 16:49 mobileuser i think i have this dialed in 16:49 player monster gear 16:49 nice! 16:49 more surgery than I was anticipating, but yeah 16:50 now just testing 16:54 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) murdered her faithful housecat, on T:5025 (1:09:53) 16:58 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:5193 (1:13:52) 16:59 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5259 (1:15:14) 17:13 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had a pair of high boots entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:5963 (1:29:05) 17:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed the Rider, on T:78069 (1 day, 19:33:06) 17:15 still testing ans tweaking heh 17:15 *and 17:15 woo go mobileuser 17:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed the White Horse, on T:78073 (1 day, 19:33:53) 17:18 -!- bigchopchop has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Trt Fem Neu), 4468092 points, T:78122, ascended 17:27 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1735122901.evil.html 17:28 right, time to rollout the next version K2 :-) 17:29 \o/ 17:29 congrats mobileuser 17:29 about to push this commit 17:29 for player mon gear 17:29 thanks! 17:31 pushed 17:31 !asc mobileuser 17:31 K2: [hdf-us] mobileuser has ascended 5 times in 7 games (71.43%): evil:5 (71.43%) :: [hdf-eu] mobileuser has ascended 82 times in 164 games (50.00%): evil:82 (50.00%) 17:32 87 asc 17:32 HAX 17:36 EvilHack Commits: Revamp player monster spawning gear. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/712ee021c400da7e384715880804d624a51f7d98 17:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 28483 points, T:12240, killed by a fire elemental 17:37 time to make a fire 17:37 brb 17:39 nice commit 17:45 thx 17:46 i need to do the dishes too 17:46 i dont wanna 17:46 mobileuser! i'll pay you 5 bucks if you come do my dishes 17:48 ok ok... six 17:48 seriously, stop it. 7 is as high as I can go 17:49 make it 7.01 17:50 man you drive a hard bargin 17:50 OK 17:50 \o/ 17:51 ah darn my teleporter is out of order again 17:51 wut 17:51 that's 7.01 bucks I'm missing out on 17:52 i know right? 17:52 * K2 sighs 17:52 guess i'll do them 17:52 dishes \o/ 17:52 heheh 17:52 ok so after dishes 17:52 drumroll.... 17:53 figure out shrigis issue they brought up 17:53 then back to make draugr tweaks 17:53 bleh :-P 17:53 *more 17:53 MOAR 17:53 rawr 17:54 actually 17:54 easier solution would be just dont have player monsters spawn on the knight quest 17:54 not on purpose at least 17:54 are those the guards? 17:54 i think that's the only quest that does that 17:55 yeah it's mostly pages 17:55 but there are four knights 17:55 yeah in vanilla they are guards or something? 17:55 si 17:55 oooh boy that fore is going good already 17:55 *fire 17:56 sometimes i'll purposely open the stove door to get some of that burning wood smell in the house 17:56 oh player monster says the wiki 17:56 nice! 17:56 yeah player monster knight 17:56 # knight guards for the watchrooms 17:56 MONSTER:('@',"knight"),(04,02),peaceful 17:56 ^ times 4 17:57 hmmm 17:59 "Pages can grow up to become knights" what is that all about 17:59 all of the quest leader helpers/guards/etc can grow up into a player monster associated with that quest 17:59 ah right 18:00 they would have to kill a bunch of monsters though to do that 18:00 can pages wear invis cloaks? 18:01 they dont ever spawn with gear like that 18:01 if they found one they could of course 18:02 ok good 18:02 yeah knight quest is the only quest with player monsters on start level 18:02 easy peasy - switch out knights for pages 18:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a concave amulet named cursed on an altar, on T:4022 (1:30:06) 18:03 quest leader attendants always spawn with very basic gear 18:04 well... are supposed to 18:04 a person playing as knight could abuse this - not visit the quest until exp level 20 or higher, kill off quest leader and get a bunch of asc quality gear off the 4 knight guards 18:05 makes this decision easy :) 18:07 -!- mobileuser68 has joined #evilhack 18:07 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:08 completely missed that Kathryn made another kill today 18:08 she did 18:09 -!- mobileuser68 has quit [Client Quit] 18:10 -!- mobileuser83 has joined #evilhack 18:10 connection trouble? 18:10 do you record those specifically? 18:11 no 18:11 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:11 fortunately the scoreboard does for you. Let's see how frequent that has been :) 18:11 periodically mini-me will ask me if she's destroyed anyone 18:11 -!- mobileuser83 is now known as mobileuser 18:12 I blame my wife who is binge watching Traitors 18:12 i wonder if ozzy or bourbon ever got in a kill 18:12 lol mobileuser 18:12 or koa 18:12 year | cnt 18:12 ------+----- 18:12 2020 | 1 18:12 2021 | 1 18:12 2022 | 3 18:12 2023 | 4 18:12 2024 | 7 18:12 2025 | 2 18:12 2 already this year?? 18:12 that's what it says? 18:13 wow 18:13 Nightsorrow and Shrigis 18:13 mini-me will be pleased 18:13 rofl 18:14 looks like she has been ramping up based on the graph above :) 18:14 2025 target: 12 kills 18:15 none for bourbon. 1 in 2021, 3 in 2022 for Ozzy 18:15 woo go ozzy 18:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2575 points, T:3958, killed by a piranha 18:15 EvilHack Commits: Remove hard-coded player monster spawns from the Knight quest startin… https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/ea8062042ecea0e0d168e08d38195aebd2e6adc6 18:15 none for koa or Koa. If it is spelled differently let me know. 18:15 Koa 18:15 that's what I thought - none. 18:16 out of the three she was the most aggressive 18:16 irl 18:16 towards other dogs 18:16 she loved people 18:16 https://nethackscoreboard.org/deathreason.evil.html -> Ice Queen is 168th most common death reason :) 18:16 heh 18:16 just in evilhack of course. 18:17 killed by a piranha hahah wow 18:17 352 asc 18:18 my death reasons are extremely varied 18:19 5 times killed by a death ray 18:20 82 times killed by a water moccasin for krm26 :-P 18:21 only 3 alhoon kills 18:21 heh 18:21 ok these dishes are gonna do themselves... bleh 18:21 brb 18:21 *aren't 18:21 if only! 18:38 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:41 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.9.1 - https://znc.in] 18:41 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3327 points, T:4311, killed by a green dragon 18:41 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 18:44 wish i had a spell 'wash dishes' 18:46 <@Loggers_VIII> in a show I watched recently, one of the main characters got the honor to learn any spell at all that they wanted from this uber old elf mage, and they used it for a spell than cleans dishes 18:49 heh 18:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3236 points, T:3894, killed by the Goblin King 19:02 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.9.1 - https://znc.in] 19:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:1840 (0:13:33) 19:03 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 19:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3538 (0:35:11) 19:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4307 (0:42:32) 19:34 EvilHack Commits: Player Draugr or if poly'd into a mindless monster are immune to a mi… https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/6fe40809ee09f699fe904a8334f41d5b28564c6a 19:45 -!- bigchopchop has joined #evilhack 20:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4840 (1:36:12) 20:06 wassup bigchopchop 20:13 EvilHack Commits: Nurses will not heal the player if the are Draugr or poly'd into an u… https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/27206fc5304187965a8e5c466180e9ff22009778 20:22 EvilHack Commits: Nurses will not heal the player if they are Draugr or poly'd into an … https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/00f2fa9ef78d38247b6f70f71074ec256fb39ee4 20:22 ^ fixed comment typo 20:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5468 (1:59:52) 20:25 -!- bigchopchop has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:08 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 20 points, T:57, killed by a crossbow bolt 21:09 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 21:17 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 21:18 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 21:20 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:22 <@Loggers_IX> no nurse dancing as draugr? ouch 21:37 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3268 (0:14:40) 21:38 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1159 points, T:3483, killed by a gray unicorn 21:46 youre stalling now k2! 21:46 stalling? 21:47 you know nobody is going to run a draugr for a week or two after druid hits 21:47 maybe 21:47 perhaps even longer 22:21 -!- hackemslashem2 has joined #evilhack 22:23 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:23 <@Loggers_VIII> guy is doing anything to avoid making that hidden dungeon map :p 22:23 <@Loggers_VIII> release tomorrow it’s good enough 22:30 sssshhhh 22:30 i have draugr stuff i wanna address 22:30 some of it is save-breaking 22:31 like the thing i am working on now 22:39 You are immune to lycanthropy innately. 22:41 well so much for my zombie werewolf roleplay 22:41 heh 22:41 so that's draugr 22:41 You are immune to lycanthropy from current creature form. <--- poly'd into something undead 22:42 You are immune to lycanthropy. <--- wielding werebane 22:42 how DOES lycanthropy work with a polymorphed hero anyway 22:43 not 100% sure 22:44 ah 22:44 you can still become infected 22:45 and it effectively replaces whatever form they had with animal form 22:46 ? 22:46 -!- bigchopchop has joined #evilhack 22:46 believe so 22:46 sounds about right 22:47 prob. means Fun™ interactions with vampires 22:47 (or, it would've before now) 22:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Fainted (Inf Hum Mal Una), 755 points, T:780, killed by a giant ant 22:47 traditionaly (meaning ad&d) undead can't be infected with lycanthropy, for the same reasons they are immune to poison and sickness 22:48 kinda surprised vanilla doesnt cover that 22:49 and there's zero lycanthropy infection possibiliy between mon vs mon or player vs mon 22:49 they just have code for mon vs player 22:49 (same for nurses heal attack) 22:59 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha), 10079 points, T:6124, killed by a revenant, while paralyzed by a monster 23:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha), 71 points, T:162, killed by a jackal 23:06 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 23:07 is there a bug where the game things a pet is leashed to you even when it is not? and you can drop the leash and leave the level and it still says the pet is leached to you? or is that only me? 23:07 *thinks 23:10 <@Loggers_VIII> dingotron: leashes are weird and no one knows why they do the things they do 23:10 <@Loggers_VIII> for fun, step onto a teleport trap while your pet is leashed to you and watch as your leash somehow extends across the whole level 23:11 I have a pet attached by a phantom leash. is currently not possible to unleash the pet. I don't even have a leash in inventory anymore. 23:12 if i tried to apply a leash to the pet it says 'this pet is already leashed' 23:17 Ok got it unleashed! by... having it frozen by a floating eye then going downstairs and coming back up. lol 23:18 Couldn't lead it over a hole or trap door? 23:29 didn't think of that 23:29 also, was only on DL3 so far and playing convict, so in no rush to find trap doors yet! 23:31 Until. speaking of, I found the trap door to gollum's level by mistake... and found myself coming up trapped on the wrong side of the goblin king, totally unprepared to fight him. Horray for a ring of levitation and One Ring to tip toe right past him without waking him up! 23:42 there have been many leash fixes in 3.7 compared to 3.6 23:54 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:54 -!- bigchopchop has quit [Quit: Client closed]