00:07 bleagh, long sleep 00:07 I miss anything? 00:17 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 796 points, T:1965, killed by the Goblin King 00:27 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 802 points, T:2145, killed by a killer bee 00:45 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3064 (0:28:09) 00:45 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1001 points, T:3071, killed by a large spider 00:51 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 131 points, T:508, withered away, while praying 01:01 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 427 points, T:1510, killed by a large spider 01:40 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 630 points, T:1701, killed by an arrow 01:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1945 (0:18:16) 02:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed +1 spear on an altar, on T:3455 (0:36:18) 02:27 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 02:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:4957 (0:47:46) 02:45 -!- Glasshopper has joined #evilhack 02:49 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) murdered Moppe, her faithful large dog, on T:6786 (1:11:14) 02:55 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 10210 points, T:6949, killed by a fire ant 04:26 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #evilhack 04:29 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:34 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (tungsten.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 04:34 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 04:53 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 04:57 -!- Glasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:11 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:17 K2: in regards to more role differentiation, have you ever thought about doing role exclusive spells? 05:18 FWIW the same question or (YANI?) could be asked about race or aligmnent exclusive spells. I don't think gender specific spells make much sense :) 05:25 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 05:39 Cavefolk have a role-exclusive lack of spells :B 05:40 for my own part because these are questions I gotta ponder if I'm ever gonna be a Game Designer™, I'm not sure if I'd ever truly go the exclusive route 05:41 I know there's like, monster only spells and such, and THAT much tracks, but if we're sticking within the realm of the playable heroes, part of what makes NetHack... NetHack to me is the ability to try damn near anything you want 05:41 while still maintaining a clear delineation in that a Valk isn't nearly going to be as proficient a caster as, say a Wizard or even a Monk 05:41 but it's an angle you can still work with 06:23 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:23 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 07:21 bhaak no I havent, not really. like Umbire said, i have implement role based no spells (caveman) and race based no spells (draugr) 07:23 the path i've followed with some spells is skill based - greater the skill, more benefit/effect the spell has (or less than normal if unskilled/restricted). 07:23 so in a sense your role does factor in because each role has different skills or lack thereof in various spells 07:26 Umbire: "part of what makes NetHack..." yes, I totally agree with that. but when you're adding tons of stuff, there is the problem that every new addition is available to all (spells are a bit less an offender in that, but artifacts, oh boy) and grinds down the differences between roles and races 07:26 artifacts :) 07:27 * K2 covertly hides all the forged artifacts behind his back 07:29 i think the nethack devteam should have made spells separate per role just like in ad&d from the beginning 07:30 too late now :P 07:30 genie, bottle - out 07:39 that just means you as a variant developer are too cowardly to take the heat from the players :-) 07:39 you first 07:40 i have peer pressure resistance, your weak spell does not work on me 07:43 I'm trying to remember what you always say when you want to apply pressure 07:44 no balls or something? 07:44 :-P 07:44 yeah 07:44 you don't have to be afraid that it's hard to do. for starters, just make the special spell role exclusive (YANI) ? 07:44 that and DO EET 07:44 ah 07:44 bhaak... no balls 07:45 see what I did there mobileuser? now bhaak has to do it 07:45 lol 07:45 *has* to, because of the 'no balls' rule 07:45 preemptive no balls strike 07:45 \o/ 07:46 bhaak, evilhack already has some race/role separation (more role than race) as I described, but unnethack nothing of the sort. looks like it's your turn 07:46 and I said 'no balls' so.... 07:46 resorting to low calls. are you a chicken? 07:47 i'm not marty mcfly :) 07:47 Tourists get automatic type identification for shop items, Knights get a weight bonus for body armor 07:47 so, you ARE a chicken! 07:48 lol 07:48 your words may work on a lesser being. but i resist your words 07:48 back in a bit gotta take kiddo to school 07:49 see you later! 07:49 <@hackemslashem> I liked the primary spellcaster thing in evil so I extended it a little. Non spell specialists can still learn all spells but not for as long. 07:51 could be sort of interesting if you couldn't even learn a spell from a school you are restricted in 07:56 I did play with that a bit, but it does create lots of useless books lying around the dungeon 08:05 polyfodder 08:13 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #evilhack 08:17 YANI: Spellcasting for the non-primary casters costs more nutrition 08:19 ...and make monk a primary spellcaster :-) 08:19 My guideline for primaries was "do they start with a spellbook?" 08:20 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:20 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:21 oh did you already make monk a primary spellcaster in nerfhack? 08:27 <@hackemslashem> Yes 08:27 noice 08:32 that's not a nerf 08:35 I'd say EvilHack is pretty decently good at role differentiation 08:37 K2 lol 08:38 :P 08:52 <@Loggers_VIII> evilhack is pretty good at role differentiation. not as good as like dnh but good 08:57 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:58 weee 08:59 is power word kill the same as finger of death or is it special 09:00 special 09:01 it's a lot like when you invoke the eye/hand of vecna. but i'm gonna make it a bit different from that 09:01 ah interesting 09:01 i already have a working version 09:02 i need to vacuum today. i dont wanna 09:04 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 23888 points, T:20657, killed by falling down a mine shaft 09:05 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 0 points, T:163, killed by a fox 09:05 vacuuming irritates me more than it should 09:06 heh 09:28 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:29 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 09:44 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:44 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 09:44 -!- tinklebear has left #evilhack 09:45 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #evilhack 09:51 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Ith Mal Cha), 2065 points, T:3208, killed by a jumping spider 09:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 9274 points, T:5946, killed by a Woodland-elf 09:57 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:01 -!- mobileuser9 has joined #evilhack 10:05 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:07 -!- mobileuser9 is now known as mobileuser 10:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2130 (0:18:00) 10:15 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:15 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 10:16 what you MEAN you're already working on power words 10:16 what do you* 10:17 since last night 10:17 i made power word kill 10:17 dragon shouts? 10:17 :D 10:18 finger of death moves to druid spell (evocation), power word kill becomes the level 7 attack spell 10:18 finger of death actually began as a high level druid spell 10:18 1st edition to rule them all 10:18 so does finger of death remain a ray-type spell 10:18 ? 10:18 yessir 10:18 yeah it's unchanged insofar as how it behaves 10:19 fine-tuning PWK right now 10:20 whassit do 10:20 O: 10:21 kills shit 10:21 and stuff 10:21 i'll explain it in the commit msg 10:21 you know what I meant! 10:22 :P 10:22 heh ok 10:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Ginebig (Wiz Dro Mal Cha), 414 points, T:2284, killed by Ms. Yildizeli; the shopkeeper 10:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Ginebig (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:722 (0:02:36) 10:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Ginebig (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:1476 (0:05:32) 10:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Ginebig (Wiz Dro Mal Cha), 1802 points, T:1509, killed by a bolt of fire 10:56 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #evilhack 11:01 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 232 points, T:4516, choked on a shrieker corpse 11:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 0 points, T:67, killed by a djinni, while sleeping 11:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed figurine of a celestial dragon named Mishi-Gwiingwa'aage", on T:4 (0:00:17) 11:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1283 (0:12:32) 11:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:3307 (0:24:32) 11:37 noooo dragon killed the oracle before I could get a consultationnnnn 11:37 oh it's fine I had a wand of undead turning 11:39 zombie oracle 11:40 the 8 ball is really good, love warning 11:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 3770 points, T:3732, killed by a bolt of lightning 11:41 instakilled by lightning wand, frml 11:41 *fml 11:41 out of the darkness with zero warning 11:41 8 ball didn't warn you of that now did it 11:42 pacifist is so slowwwwwwwwwwwwww 11:42 like a half an hour to get to level 1 of the mines where I'm allowed to get oneshot by lightning 11:49 ah you're playing at my speed 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:37088 (12:22:29) 11:52 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a small glob of gray ooze, on T:5622 (0:56:35) 11:52 lol mobileuser 11:52 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a drow cleric), on T:5801 (0:56:55) 11:53 there HAS to be a secret trick to not dying to random wands 11:53 no way tariru won 60+ games in a row without encountering one 11:54 he may have 11:54 and just got lucky 11:54 or already had reflection 11:54 or HAX 11:54 i don't buy it :p 11:54 where is that guy, anyway? he fall off the face of the earth or what? 11:55 roads are so shitty... had to drive to the dry cleaners and the snow keeps coming down. roads are greasy 11:55 Loggers_VIII who knows? maybe nethack just wasnt a challenge for him anymore and he moved on to something else 11:55 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:56 he didnt say anything to anyone afaik 11:56 (assuming Tariru is a he, i have no idea) 11:56 food time! 11:56 later 12:04 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:07 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "sdflkj", on T:7297 (1:11:52) 12:14 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #evilhack 12:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:38735 (12:59:10) 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:38890 (13:03:54) 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:38892 (13:04:02) 12:33 -!- malor_ has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 12:34 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 12:34 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:9627 (1:38:57) 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:9684 (1:39:29) 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:38916 (13:07:25) 12:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) killed the illithid high priestess of Moloch, on T:39044 (13:15:39) 12:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:39056 (13:16:10) 12:47 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:11197 (1:51:08) 12:52 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 467942 points, T:34401, killed by Cerberus, while praying 13:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) killed Lucifer, on T:39485 (13:35:00) 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) entered Purgatory, on T:39615 (13:41:11) 13:20 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14651 (2:24:30) 13:29 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5447 (1:14:48) 13:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) killed Saint Michael, on T:39798 (13:53:15) 13:30 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 13:31 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 4429 points, T:5559, killed by a bolt of fire 13:33 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:41 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:40375 (14:06:10) 13:46 -!- mobileuser65 has joined #evilhack 13:46 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:40605 (14:09:57) 13:46 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 721 points, T:1970, killed by a bolt of cold 13:47 -!- mobileuser65 is now known as mobileuser 14:08 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 739 points, T:2313, killed by the Goblin King 14:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:41196 (14:34:16) 14:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) killed the Black Horse, on T:41196 (14:34:17) 14:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha), 6348760 points, T:41230, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Shrigis/evilhack/dumplog/1736094619.evil.html 14:18 congrats @shrigis 14:23 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:26 real life stuff gettin in my way today ugh 14:27 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3615 (0:18:53) 14:39 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5294 (0:30:20) 14:46 -!- NetSysFire has quit [Quit: generic quit message] 14:47 -!- NetSysFire has joined #evilhack 14:49 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by the Goblin King), on T:1797 (0:07:26) 15:00 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) had 16 wooden shuriken entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:19656 (2:58:10) 15:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Dra Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1798 (0:07:30) 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) had a steel helm of brilliance entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:20448 (2:59:22) 15:05 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Dra Mal Cha) destroyed dbanethacker the human zombie, and former Fighter, on T:3303 (0:17:33) 15:11 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 4027 points, T:7566, killed by a lynx 15:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Dra Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3311 (0:18:24) 15:12 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:12 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 96 points, T:198, killed by a sewer rat 15:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Dra Mal Cha), 5691 points, T:3430, killed by a soldier ant, while attempting to cheat Death 15:14 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:70008 (23:53:17) 15:15 <@shrigis> Dang being invisible isn't enough to hide from a priest as a draugr... 15:21 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:25369 (3:19:03) 15:28 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:29 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 16:10 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:10 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:6733 (0:52:43) 16:16 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 590 points, T:1369, killed by a small mimic 16:21 <@Loggers_VIII> @e?dark one 16:21 Dark One (h) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 12 | Res: petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 80 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 1d6 claw amulet steal, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 0d0 cast spell, 0d0 cast spell | Align: -10 | omnivore, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis 16:30 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha), 104044 points, T:31956, killed by an earth elemental 16:37 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 386 points, T:1005, killed by a bugbear, while praying 16:45 had power word kill pretty much done 16:45 then realized it was way overpowered 16:45 WAY 16:45 at expert skill you could potentially have killed 58 monsters with one cast :P 16:46 so... finalizing power word kill ver 2.0 16:46 much more inline with ad&d rules now 16:46 still ridiculously powerful 16:46 but just one monster at a time hah 16:47 <@Loggers_VIII> hehe nice 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Fem Law), 8541 points, T:9449, killed by a giant leech 16:53 <@shrigis> Loggers is that your fursona in the profile picture? 16:53 this has become more work than I envisioned, but that's good actually 16:53 learned a couple things 16:54 i read that as 'furiosa' 16:56 I hear that's a p. decent movie 16:57 <@k21971> it was alright 16:59 -!- Demo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:59 -!- Demo has joined #evilhack 17:04 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 17:04 ooh congrats @shrigis 17:04 missed the ascension 17:06 <@Loggers_VIII> shrigis I lost a bet :P 17:07 yeah where's my 5 bucks 17:09 alright lets test this out 17:09 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:10 You utter a word of power... choose a monster to slay: 17:11 utter --> chant? 17:11 utter is fine i think 17:12 <@Loggers_VIII> utter is badass 17:12 <@Loggers_VIII> maybe ‘incant’ if you wanna be crazy 17:12 wizard killed by his own word of power 17:12 ^ gravestone when i selected myself 17:13 i added a paranoid element to it so if you do this, it's all on you 17:15 You annihilate the wolf! 17:15 The test monster roars in agony! 17:16 The gray dragon roars in pain, but resists your deadly spell. <--- has full MR, but will still take damage 17:17 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 17:17 ooh, fun! 17:17 The gray dragon is out of range. 17:17 ^ skill determines how far out you can cast it 17:18 heya terrapin 17:18 hi 17:18 Hello terrapin, Welcome to #evilhack 17:18 i take it pwk is shaping up nicely? 17:19 [hdf-us] [evil] benabhi (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 354 points, T:1384, killed by a large spider 17:20 YES 17:20 brb 17:24 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #evilhack 17:24 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest6750 17:24 -!- Guest6750 has quit [Killed (tantalum.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 17:24 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 17:25 [hdf-us] [evil] benabhi (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 233 points, T:980, zombified by a kobold zombie 17:27 back 17:28 wb 17:28 a spell that can damage MR targets (presumably for an absurdly inefficient Pw cost) sounds very wizardy to me. i like it! 17:28 yay 17:29 hmm good thing i tested casting finger of death 17:29 weffects: unexpected spell or wand Program in disorder! 17:29 and that was just shifting FoD from attack to evocation 17:29 so i missed something 17:30 ah hah 17:30 i see it 17:30 i moved FoD out of order 17:31 easy fix 17:31 yay 17:31 Morgan Freeman voice: as soon as K2 said 'easy fix', it soon became clear this would become the hardest bit of code to fix in his lifetime 17:33 heh 17:33 yeah i need to keep all of the ray based spells grouped together in objects.c 17:33 otherwise weffects complains 17:44 ok we're all good. ship it! 17:45 ~\o/~ 17:46 types up commit, will take forever because there's a lot to explain 18:06 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/07e988632b796130c3a4191232d4187fbb0d614c 18:06 pick it apart 18:11 EvilHack Commits: New spell: power word kill, shift 'finger of death' from attack spell… https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/07e988632b796130c3a4191232d4187fbb0d614c 18:11 haw wow the windows build failed 18:11 why doesnt it fail for #wizkill 18:11 hmm 18:12 oh i see why 18:12 durrrrr 18:13 <@Loggers_VIII> PWK looks funny 18:14 <@Loggers_VIII> what’s left planned for this release, just hidden dungeon stuff, new forged arti and rogue trap stuff? 18:14 roughly yeah 18:14 what's funny about pwk? 18:14 this is pretty much how it works in ad&d 18:15 actually this is more deadly than ad&d spell, there it's either all (100 hp or less, die) or nothing 18:16 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 18:16 "funny" = good and cool 18:17 ah 18:17 the meaning of that word must have changed 18:17 no that's just me being weird 18:17 :P 18:17 can I have a hint about the new forged arti :p 18:18 cavepersons will enjoy it 18:18 yayyyyyy caveperson love 18:19 yay amend 18:19 fixed windows build 18:20 EvilHack Commits: New spell: power word kill, shift 'finger of death' from attack spell… https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/500c64ccd232e5a3d29599a1bc874637d330d87e 18:20 ^ same as last one, just fixed the windows build 18:30 hah damn, we now have 60 spells to choose from 18:30 no more! lol 18:30 * K2 looks at all the spells in gnollhack and feels a bit better about it 18:32 I want there to be some sort of clerical "holy lance" spell that does a fuckton of damage to stuff that the church doesn't like 18:32 ...oh yeah, are you gonna like 18:32 do something re: the 52 spell limit or 18:32 NO 18:32 Umbire already did 18:32 oh cool 18:32 its in one of the past druid commits 18:32 wasn't sure if you had 18:32 didn't want the book of the dead game-ender to crop up again 18:33 who was it that encountered that? they went and memorized all those spells hah 18:33 in hack'em right? 18:33 clerics should have something to kill demons with >:( 18:33 I think it was bouquet 18:33 Loggers_VIII its called demonbane 18:33 smh 18:33 hehehe yeah true enough 18:38 :P 18:39 [hdf-us] [evil] benabhi (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 3985 points, T:7317, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted piranha 18:39 aosdict did you see this commit from last night? - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/98378821fe1c1c70ab411d32a3a73c07bd4f0a00 18:39 Pretty sure it was mobileuser? 18:40 what was mobileuser? 18:40 umbire: I think they both encountered it lol 18:40 oh boo, I so wanted there to be a dart skill 18:40 oh 18:40 the book thing 18:40 could've lobbied for blowdarts :B 18:42 druid without sickles... dishonor!! 18:43 anyway release Monday pls I am too excited to wait longer :P 18:43 i dunno about monday 18:43 some real life stuff came up today, we'll see 18:43 the Monday after that 18:43 wife's grandmother who is almost 99, her body has started to shut down. dont think she's gonna last much longer :/ 18:44 so we may be a bit busy soon 18:44 real life is so inconsiderate. always getting in the way of my evilha- actually slash that thought that sucks :( 18:44 yeah 18:44 we all got to see her for xmas though and she was happy to see us all 18:45 99's a damn full life at least 18:45 she's not sick... just wearing down 18:45 a lil bit of memory loss but i've seen a lot worse. no dementia thank goodness 18:46 98 almost 99 is a good run 18:46 anywho. i have no idea what my weekend is gonna be like 18:46 ot next week 18:47 i can safely say 'this month' but barring that, dunno 18:47 had a great aunt I visited a lot as a kid, starting suffering from dementia. I don't think I realized the extent of it back then, but looking back it was horrible 18:48 having to be reintroduced every time I saw her, ugh 18:48 :( 18:51 :c 18:52 <[> K2: what did you do about the 52-spell limit? 18:53 same thing that hack'em (and nerfhack?) did 18:53 K2: tell her she can't die until she beats jimmy carter 18:53 one sec i'll find the commit 18:54 hah I had forgotten Carter kicked the bucket recently 18:54 his funeral was today 18:54 [ - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/c5df38caa5235e0dfc0a2e469ab980a7f47a2592#diff-e4ccea7d2df599dff12ec9004ef33c8941e740af806a737e5f14d9db63f58cd1 <---- top edits in spell.c 18:55 i think this needs more though, there's some other places in the code that still assumes no more than 52 spells 18:56 oh that's why the Google logo is gray today 18:57 Carter beat the queen of England!! america on top yet again 18:58 brb 19:00 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3768 (0:38:37) 19:01 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:3837 (0:39:13) 19:02 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:23068 (4:59:00) 19:03 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering a rock gnome corpse on an altar of Huan Ti, on T:4341 (0:41:46) 19:16 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:38 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 1771 points, T:2699, killed by a gas spore's explosion 19:45 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest3348 19:45 -!- Guest3348 has quit [Killed (iridium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 19:45 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:45 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 110 points, T:598, killed by a bolt of fire 19:47 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest3044 19:47 -!- Guest3044 has quit [Killed (zirconium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 19:47 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:48 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest8682 19:48 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:52 -!- Guest8682 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:00 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 414 points, T:1337, killed by a giant bat 20:09 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest2372 20:09 -!- Guest2372 has quit [Killed (tungsten.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 20:09 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 20:17 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:25 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 20:25 [hdf-us] [evil] benabhi (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 973 points, T:3179, killed by a rock mole, while frozen by a monster's gaze 20:57 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.3.1] 21:03 rawr 21:21 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 21:27 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2538 (0:22:03) 21:44 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest5806 21:44 -!- Guest5806 has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 21:44 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:50 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) consumed animal products (pancake) for the first time, on T:4175 (0:45:48) 21:52 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3480 (0:16:55) 21:53 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 626 points, T:3497, killed by a large spider 21:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed fubaz's ghost, the former Investigator, on T:6729 (1:10:00) 22:06 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5635 (1:01:50) 22:09 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:19 EvilHack Commits: Fix: logic when invoking the Eye/Hand of Vecna, make its behavior be … https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/045644c80e0b95a989660831ddc0173aee44465b 22:29 ^ invoking eye/hand of vecna just became a bit more desireable 22:29 esp if you're an infidel 22:29 <@Loggers_VIII> drow inf is a valid combo right? 22:30 <@Loggers_VIII> I might try to squeeze in an asc before 0.9 22:30 si 22:31 oh loggers, another things i wanted to add to 0.9.0 before release, was change how altar sac works 22:31 that's a big one on the to-do 22:31 <@Loggers_VIII> ahhh yes I remember discussion about this 22:31 yeah 22:31 been thinking of ways to help draw down the desire to grind at altars 22:32 or need rather 22:32 <@Loggers_VIII> lowkey make forging an artifact take a non-renewable resource or something that you only have 3 of 22:33 <@Loggers_VIII> (cuz less than 3, couldn’t forge AoR) 22:33 <@Loggers_VIII> actually nah scratch thay 22:33 <@Loggers_VIII> that 22:33 <@Loggers_VIII> most people don’t use 3 or more forged artifacts anyway 22:34 this is what I had in mind so far - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack#L24 22:34 and #25 and #26 22:36 <@Loggers_VIII> ooh I like those 22:36 altar wont go away, so it can be used for other altar-y things 22:37 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1718 points, T:6423, killed by a garter snake, while fainted from lack of food 22:37 <@Loggers_VIII> if you’re not going to do something like allowing the player to influence what they get, that’s the best solution. but it’s more of a forcible ‘stop farming’ than ‘you don’t need to farm, so don’t’ 22:38 allowing the player to pick what they get from an altar sacrifice is basically the same as granting a wish 22:39 <@Loggers_VIII> not really, because a wish can be used for other stuff and then you can just sac for whatever you want to avoid losing value 22:39 <@Loggers_VIII> also, a wish can get you artifacts of other alignments 22:39 <@Loggers_VIII> I think the changes would be good, though 22:40 getting to choose is exactly like a wish 22:40 but yeah 22:40 once the altar becomes cracked or whatever descriptor its given, you'll know its time to move on if you're sac for artifacts 22:41 <@Loggers_VIII> even if we’re assuming you’re going to use a wish for an artifact, again, you can only get one of your alignment or unaligned 22:42 if straight up wishes could come from altar sac... omg 22:42 <@Loggers_VIII> I also never said choose exactly. what I’m suggesting is more along the lines of ‘expend a valuable, perhaps limited resource in exchange for higher chance of getting a certain eligible artifact gift from sacrifice’ 22:42 sacfest 22:42 loggers ah 22:43 <@Loggers_VIII> I should have clarified, I was weirdly vague about that 22:43 so sac an artifact to increase chance for another artifact? 22:43 <@Loggers_VIII> wait that’s kinda smart 22:43 heh 22:43 that'd be weird 22:44 saccing objects isnt unheard of... fiqhack does it 22:44 but not like this 22:44 <@Loggers_VIII> yeah plus doesn’t really work with the ‘cracked’ altar type changes 22:44 it wouldnt, no 22:44 <@Loggers_VIII> I will make my own variant… sachack 22:45 here's a scenario: Loggers sacrifices werebane to his deity. Deity goes 'wtf is this shit, why are you trying to pawn off this crap on me?' DYWYPI? 22:45 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:8455 (1:40:12) 22:45 :P 22:45 <@Loggers_VIII> rofl 22:45 brb gonna check on my kiddo. i dont think she's sleeping yet 22:45 <@Loggers_VIII> even the gods know it’s shit 22:46 <@Loggers_VIII> sure sure 22:57 heh 22:57 but the gobs made werebane 22:57 GOBS 22:57 jebus 23:03 <@Loggers_VIII> kinda random, but can you get butcher early if you summon demogorgon via same race sac? 23:05 you mean Yeenoghu 23:05 oh i see 23:05 but yeah 23:05 <@Loggers_VIII> oh woops yeah yeenoghu 23:05 you cant get demon bosses via same race sac anymore 23:06 that's been a thing for a few yrs now 23:06 <@Loggers_VIII> huh, interesting 23:06 it's to make sure they're available in their lairs in gehennom 23:06 <@Loggers_VIII> actually I knew that, but in a way where I had noticed it through gameplay and not a way where I had been told it 23:06 <@Loggers_VIII> and I don’t trust my mind 23:06 maybe in 3.7 with lua you could do some creative stuff but not on 3.6 23:07 <@Loggers_VIII> I randomly had an itch for using butcher early on and was trying to think of edge cases where it could happen 23:07 forge wand of orcus and butcher to make... the flying rubber hose of justice 23:08 EvilHack Commits: Peaceful and tame monsters not killed by the spell 'Power Word Kill' … https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/3a08e41fad901c8b8903d6d95db55fe4cf9b165e 23:08 <@Loggers_VIII> I’d ascend with it :P 23:08 heheh 23:10 <@Loggers_VIII> I guess you could make butcher a race-role specific thing, like a hypothetical gnoll barb gets it as a crowning gift 23:10 <@Loggers_VIII> that’s getting into dnh territory I think 23:10 yup 23:11 plus there isnt gnoll race in evilhack 23:11 <@Loggers_VIII> yeah 23:11 <@Loggers_VIII> huh, is gnollhack the only variant with gnoll race? 23:12 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest9141 23:12 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 23:13 <@Loggers_VIII> I tried to play gnoll a couple times but it’s basically a different game 23:13 i think so 23:13 but dont quote me 23:15 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) had a pair of dark elven gloves entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:11918 (2:10:17) 23:15 -!- Guest9141 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:26 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5741 (0:48:53) 23:51 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:7190 (1:13:50) 23:54 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:7432 (1:17:22)