00:02 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:3630 (0:29:27) 00:10 K2: my dark elven sword just disappeared while fighting in sewage in the mines. Same as when I was inside a dragon. It just disappeared. 00:12 like the sewage square was illuminated. No breakage message, tho 00:25 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 8502 points, T:5729, killed by a warg 00:25 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu), 152 points, T:90, killed by a gnome lord 00:29 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 109 points, T:496, killed by a boulder 00:35 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 482 points, T:769, killed by a wand, while moving through the air 00:40 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 479 points, T:729, killed by the Goblin King 00:56 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1173 points, T:1984, quit 01:02 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:13 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2039 (0:17:15) 01:16 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 01:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3878 points, T:3488, killed by a boiling potion 02:23 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 02:28 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:17 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 04:24 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:25 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 04:43 !tell K2 mostly trivia, but does the chromatic dragon placeholder monster technically have reflection? 04:43 Will do, Umbire! 04:59 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:03 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:06 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:03 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:04 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 06:23 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 06:33 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:42 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:58 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:33 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 07:36 bouquet ok 07:36 K2: Message from Umbire at 2025-01-08 04:43 EST: mostly trivia, but does the chromatic dragon placeholder monster technically have reflection? 07:36 Umbire yeah i think so 07:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:605 (0:03:01) 07:42 alright ty 07:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 1149 points, T:1685, quit 08:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1381 (0:13:56) 08:32 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1514 points, T:2267, killed by a hill orc 08:35 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:296 (0:02:26) 08:40 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 08:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 220 points, T:897, killed by a newt, while reading a book 08:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:466 (0:02:13) 09:04 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1552 points, T:2807, killed by a rock gnome 09:07 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3354 (0:18:13) 09:09 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:05 sorry I keep breaking my gear :( 10:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] haexwise (Val Hum Fem Law), 364 points, T:935, killed by a hobgoblin 10:13 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven long sword entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:5156 (0:49:16) 10:14 lolth delivers! 10:22 "a voice booms out: now don't break this one!" 10:22 "... you klutz!" 10:22 :-) 10:29 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 2007 points, T:4195, killed by a rock gnome, while sleeping 10:32 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 10:44 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 242 points, T:3146, killed by a copper dart 10:54 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:55 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 10:58 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5486 (1:03:43) 11:18 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:18 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 11:22 -!- tinklebear has left #evilhack 11:26 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 4814 points, T:7082, killed by a bolt of lightning 11:30 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:31 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 11:37 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had Dirge gifted to her by the grace of Lolth, on T:7262 (1:09:29) 11:45 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:7986 (1:17:29) 11:49 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "asdfasdf", on T:8371 (1:22:11) 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8427 (1:22:43) 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a giant beetle), on T:3458 (0:17:26) 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha), 2640 points, T:3461, quit 11:58 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest6693 11:58 -!- Guest6693 has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 11:58 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 11:58 -!- 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destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:4184 (0:34:54) 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4291 (0:37:50) 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 6758 points, T:4298, killed by a bolt of fire 13:18 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 410 points, T:575, killed by a crossbow bolt 13:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:770 (0:03:24) 13:29 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2316 (0:57:47) 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1791 (0:08:29) 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (locusts), on T:1826 (0:09:11) 13:38 bouquet I think I know why your drow weapon broke while standing in sewage 13:39 if i recall, I have pool and sewage tiles lit when in the mines so you dont accidentally walk right into them in the dark 13:39 i'll need to look to confirm 13:39 GruntHack does that "dark pool squares" shit and it's garbage 13:40 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:40 well not 'dark pool tiles' it's just that sgrunt didn't feel the need to have them visibile in dark places 13:41 there's no real need to have sewage tiles lit since dont fall in and drown 13:41 falling into a pool/moat is potentially immediately fatal; sewage or puddles are not 13:42 unless you're small and burdened enough 13:42 remember how reba got done by a polytrap? 13:42 yup. that's an edge case though 13:42 ur an edge case 13:42 yup probably 13:43 :B 13:43 still a shit way to go if I've ever seen one 13:43 also I wonder when the guy'll realize his week-ban's long-expired 13:47 [hdf-us] [evil] bigchopchop (Sam Gia Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "blessed +3 dragonbane", on T:51303 (1 day, 2:22:02) 13:47 ... 13:47 hah damn 13:47 i forgot all about that 13:48 it's been so nice in this channel though 13:48 it's been like, actual months 13:48 also wow rude /j 13:48 but it's like, sometimes you end up worrying anyway, y'know? 13:48 exactly 2 months 13:48 -!- mode/#evilhack [-b *!*@146.115.166.250] by K2 13:48 -!- Demo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:52 another ban we both forgot? 13:52 no, that is rebatella's ip 13:52 ah 13:52 that'd explain a bit 13:53 yup 13:53 I swore it was a week at first 13:53 back in a bit 13:53 (key words) 13:54 I'll lit sewage over dark and stumble in any day 13:55 [hdf-us] [evil] bigchopchop (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:51567 (1 day, 2:30:23) 14:00 EvilHack Commits: Fix: unpaid_cost impossible under certain circumstances. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/4107b0c96a7d7bea5fdde799ef63cf6a36cefaf2 14:02 ugh... what I meant in english is "I'll take lit sewage over dark sewage I stumble into any day" 14:02 [hdf-us] [evil] bigchopchop (Sam Gia Fem Law) used a forge to create the Gauntlets of Purity, on T:51786 (1 day, 2:37:15) 14:08 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 7137 points, T:4879, poisoned by a rotted orc shaman corpse 14:09 [hdf-us] [evil] eri (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 17269 points, T:6088, killed by a zruty, while moving through the air 14:19 [hdf-us] [evil] eri (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 737 points, T:1534, killed by a rope golem, while praying 14:21 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 14:23 [hdf-us] [evil] eri (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 474 points, T:470, killed by a pony 14:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 10124 points, T:5400, zombified by a gnoll witherling 14:57 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:58 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Kni Dwa Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6500 (0:48:04) 15:04 bouquet yup I confirmed it. the makeriver() routine makes all the things (pools/moats/puddles/sewage) lit 15:04 seeage and puddles dont need to be lit. that's an actual detriment to drow 15:04 *sewage 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 8561 points, T:6558, poisoned by a giant mosquito 15:05 especially on the mines end sewage level 15:07 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 15:08 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Fem Una) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3504 (1:27:15) 15:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 251 points, T:1225, killed by a jackal 15:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 250 points, T:967, killed by a poisonous corpse 15:26 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of cloth gloves entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:29434 (5:23:52) 15:29 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a staff of war entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:29534 (5:26:44) 15:29 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Fem Una) eschewed atheism, by dropping 12 steel daggers on an altar, on T:4405 (1:48:04) 15:31 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:29772 (5:28:34) 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2052 (0:14:31) 15:34 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a helmet entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:29905 (5:31:27) 15:36 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Fem Una) made her first wish - "cursed greased fixed +3 Dragonbane", on T:5324 (1:55:40) 15:41 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Fem Una) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:6996 (2:07:58) 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3740 (0:32:14) 15:53 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Fem Una) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:7514 (2:12:38) 15:58 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Fem Una), 18392 points, T:7945, killed by a rothe 16:11 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 16:21 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:22 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined 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it a step further by actually destroying the web trap 17:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 255 points, T:787, killed by a crossbow bolt 17:16 i think what i have in place is fine as-is 17:16 huh what did i do? 17:16 sting in lotr didnt destroy webs, it just easily sliced through them 17:16 hackemslashem you caused global warming 17:17 bad hackemslashem, bad! 17:17 oh 17:17 C-Oh-2 17:19 EvilHack Commits: Fix: sewage and shallow water tiles were lit in makeriver(). https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/1d1fe63dbc67cc3610c1284df5f6c1859bc44256 17:21 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:24 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2402 (0:10:56) 17:25 more druids tweaks coming tonight 17:26 based off of some of aosdict's suggestions and musings 17:27 K2: well webs in nethack are more like a single really sticky and magnetically attractive strand 17:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2393 (0:15:28) 17:34 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 17:35 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 17:37 [hdf-us] [evil] eri (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 10963 points, T:4795, killed by a bolt of fire 17:42 hey hey 17:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3143 (0:29:03) 17:56 aosdict in your opinion, what spell schools should a nethack druid have access to training wise? even if it's just basic 17:56 right now I have evocation: expert, clerical: skilled, healing and matter: basic 17:56 (evocation is new, all the druid spells fall under it) 18:00 [hdf-us] [evil] bigchopchop (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "20 blessed +2 silver shuriken of lightning", on T:51824 (1 day, 2:52:28) 18:00 joes recommendations - https://hardfought.org/etherpad/p/Druid_Design_Discussion#L84 18:00 not so sure about divination 18:01 escape and/or enchantment maybe 18:02 druids should get a guaranteed first artifact gift that's a sickle of some kind 18:03 hmm no 18:03 far as spells enchantment makes sense to me but the current list is fine 18:03 i'm already creating another forged artifact 18:03 [hdf-us] [evil] bigchopchop (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:51827 (1 day, 2:55:34) 18:03 dunno if i wanna throw a regular one into the mix too 18:03 remove some lame artifact to compensate :p 18:03 lol 18:03 werebane stays! 18:04 booooooooooooooo 18:04 actually that'd be a great first sac gift for a druid 18:04 they have skillz using scimitar, which was merged with saber skill 18:05 and druids frown upon abominations like werefoo 18:05 ngl no attack spell skill is a little unfortunate, but they should still be able to spam magic missile and stuff 18:05 sunbeam,,, 18:05 i'm still on the fence adding a druid attack spell 18:06 *about adding 18:06 maybe granting basic skill in attack spells would compensate 18:07 a lot of ad&d druid offensive spells already exist in nethack 18:07 consider the following 18:07 not a carbon copy but close enough 18:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed dragonhide bracers", on T:4796 (0:49:06) 18:07 make touch of death and lightning clerical spells 18:07 you mean finger of death? 18:07 finger yeah 18:07 druids dont have any death spells 18:08 yeah but isn't dnd finger of death a priest spell? 18:08 i'd have to look 18:08 oh hey, unearthed arcana just happens to be on my desk 18:09 heh nice 18:09 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 7577 points, T:8047, quit 18:11 finger of death is a 5th edition necromancer spell 18:11 so wizards, warlocks, sorcerers 18:11 K2: is anything moved into evocation or is it just the druid spells? 18:11 1st edition (the ONLY edition that counts) has a magic-user (wizard) 9th level spell called 'power word kill' 18:12 aosdict just druid spells 18:12 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3520 (1:08:35) 18:13 i have allowed monks/priests/rangers basic skill in evocation, wizards skilled 18:14 many of the evocation spells are skill based, and cant be fully realized unless you reach expert 18:14 you should add 5e druid subclasses so I can play a death focused circle of spores or circle of wildfire druid 18:14 >:| 18:14 so i felt it safe to allow a couple other roles access 18:14 omg subclasses 18:14 hmmmm someone told me fod was a priest spell at one point, I'm going to have to remember who and then kill them for spreading misinformation 18:14 didnt antigulp try that with splicehack? 18:15 Loggers_VIII for discussion sake, druids are considered a sub class of cleric (priest), both share a lot of the same spells 18:15 to answer your question, those spell skill caps look fine 18:16 what are the other ones? so attack = restricted 18:16 yeah right now all the rest are restricted 18:16 escape 18:16 i'm also revisting weapon skills 18:16 and divination 18:17 attack escape divination enchantment all restricted, but expert evocation and skilled clerical 18:17 sounds ok 18:17 right now druids are - evocation: expert, clerical: skilled, healing and matter: basic 18:17 divination restricted makes me kinda sad 18:18 aosdict ok 18:18 i think I may just make a druid/evocation attack spell, which like all the rest cant be fully realized unless you can reach expert in evocation 18:18 it'll be high level too 18:19 still gonna let that idea simmer in my brain for a bit 18:19 amazing idea. implement immediately thank you very much 18:20 heh 18:20 oh I thought with 8 new spells one of them was already some sort of attack 18:20 oh holy shit 18:20 Loggers_VIII lol 18:20 i misspoke 18:21 finger of death actually started out as a DRUID 7th level spell, 1st edition 18:21 have you considered bringing back actual spell lists? like roles simply can't learn a set of spells 18:21 szx xo fibhg znc gfud  18:21 i.e. wizards can't heal or remove curses is the obvious one 18:21 how the fuck did I even manage to typo that 18:21 I meant to say 'i was so right and true' 18:22 aosdict no i havent. it's too ingraned in nethack to separate spell schools like that 18:22 you'll piss off a lot of players 18:22 suggest that to hackemslashem, that's a big nerf 18:22 and when has that ever stopped you 18:22 hackemslashem: are you listening 18:22 aosdict :P 18:22 anyway got to go, back in a few hours 18:22 cya 18:23 Loggers_VIII i could do this since it actually follows 1st edition canon - make finger of death an evocation spell instead of attack 18:23 remove all spells? 18:24 lol 18:24 yeah hackemslashem remove all spells. you go boi 18:24 I kinda like that k2 18:24 i thought the druid attack spell was 'being a giant bear' 18:24 heh 18:24 how did i miss FoD and druid 18:25 prob cuz i wasnt looking for it 18:25 hi terrapin! 18:25 you should make open wounds castable by the player as a clerical spells but idk if the world's ready for that one 18:25 RE above convo: It might be worth thinking about moving some spells like fireball and cone of cold to matter, then matter spells have some great attacks 18:25 s/spells/spell 18:26 o/ 18:27 Loggers_VIII did you ever play baldur's gate? 18:28 move fod to evocations and replace with a smite-targeted 'power-word: kill'? just so wizard still has something to get crowned for 18:28 ah yeah wizards crowning spells 18:29 power word kill acts like invoking the eye of vecna 18:30 terrapin that's a pretty neat idea 18:30 gdamn you ozzy... he came up to me, nudged my hand for me to pet him, then walked away and crop dusted the hell outta me 18:30 uuuuugh 18:30 ok yeah 18:31 power word kill spell for wiz, move fod to druid 18:33 K2: I have not played baldur's gate, nope 18:34 hmm... i kinda feel like druid should get skill in enchantment spells too. there's a lot of monster spells there, including charm monster 18:34 my exposure to anything dnd-related is basically limited to nethack and some dcss 18:34 Loggers_VIII I ask because clerics in BG can use FoD 18:34 ah 18:34 that's a shame :P 18:35 ahhh I see 18:35 I may get into dnd a bit, it seems fun 18:35 with the right dungeon master, it can be a great experience 18:36 also helps if the players in your party get into a lil bit of roleplay 18:37 yeah i'm giving druids basic in enchantment 18:38 there's a ton of charm druid spells in d&d 18:39 yeah it seems appropriate to me 18:42 right now i'm working on a significant tweak to druid - changing up weapon skills/spell skills, greatly increase the time they can spend polymorphed if its a shape they can #shapechange into 18:42 and gonna add some incentive to fight in creature form vs not 18:43 currently vanilal rules and pretty much every other variant, when you poly into something, the duration is 500-1000 turns. for druids #shapechange making that 2500-3000 turns 18:44 or maybe 2000-2500 18:44 somewhere in there 18:46 [hdf-us] [evil] benabhi (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 1570 points, T:3058, poisoned by a rotted mountain dwarf corpse 18:47 that seems worth it to me 19:03 [hdf-us] [evil] eri (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 7093 points, T:5439, killed by a forest centaur 19:18 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 19:18 oh yeah this is going to be neat 19:19 it's going to set druid apart from other roles even more 19:19 could make staying in wildshape viable, even on the ascrun 19:21 [hdf-us] [evil] eri (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) destroyed eri's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:1772 (0:17:10) 19:21 huh i wonder if i should reanme #shapechange to #wildshape 19:21 its more ad&d/druidy 19:22 yeah I mean only druids use it so might as well 19:22 * K2 nods 19:22 two usernames in a row there I don't recognize, interesting 19:24 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:28 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:29 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:35 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:37 [hdf-us] [evil] eri (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 10609 points, T:3886, killed by a giant bat 19:37 [hdf-us] [evil] benabhi (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 1065 points, T:3663, killed by a soldier ant 19:38 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:42 -!- Demo has joined #evilhack 19:48 [hdf-us] [evil] eri (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 2293 points, T:3029, killed by a giant mosquito 19:49 ok it's now #wildshape 19:49 i feel better about that 20:03 [hdf-us] [evil] benabhi (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 1104 points, T:1841, killed by the Goblin King 20:13 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 3757 points, T:6719, killed by a soldier ant 20:14 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2220 (0:11:53) 20:19 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 20:27 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:31 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 20:37 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:39 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 20:48 EvilHack Commits: Some Druid tweaks, enchancements while changing form. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/f54cbcb6f5f1b6c3b4277fe57a12fc8c5850116a 20:48 uuugh 20:48 misspell 20:51 EvilHack Commits: Some Druid tweaks, enhancements while changing form. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/98378821fe1c1c70ab411d32a3a73c07bd4f0a00 20:52 nice changes 20:52 hope so 20:53 dire wolverine form is gonna kick ass 20:53 you can wildshape into a pegasus too 20:53 ooo flying 20:53 giant centipede is nuts 20:54 next up is the spell changes we discussed 20:54 yeah those two are better than dire wolverine but I just like wolverines 20:54 FoD and all that 20:54 me too :) 20:54 ever since I heard stories of them killing polar bears as a kid :P 20:54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REKLC3s30Mw 20:55 lol 20:56 I heard a story once that the first wolverine actually fell from the heavens, and the reason wolverines are so angry all the time is because they can't return to their home 20:56 i'd be pissed too 20:56 anger so vicious the only answer could be aliens :P 20:57 slipped, fell, cant go back to heaven 20:57 like... what the actual fuck 20:57 right?? that's messed up 20:57 jesus let me back up! NO 21:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Ginebig (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1966 (0:08:51) 21:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Ginebig (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2083 (0:09:30) 21:03 0% fail on fireball already >:) 21:03 hah how 21:03 robe? 21:04 or just reached expert already 21:04 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed benabhi's ghost, the former Pillager, on T:6773 (1:01:38) 21:05 I only needed skilled to get to 0%, wizards are crazy 21:07 K2 something to perhaps look into shoving into next version is spell quivering 21:07 meh 21:07 i dont like that 21:08 as wiz, it's irritating to do shift+z+letter+direction for force bolt every time 21:08 since you're spamming force bolt all the time 21:08 use ctrl+a if it was your last action 21:09 force bolt for wiz is almost the equivalent of melee attacks for a melee-heavy role 21:09 mehhhh there's plenty of situations where that's not applicable, especially because nethack doesn't have arbitrary targeting 21:10 but I didn't know that was a thing, I'll be adding it to my muscle memory 21:11 not to be pedantic but that's the same number of key presses, ctrl+a+letter+direction 21:11 :) 21:11 i'll think on it 21:11 brb late dinner time 21:12 K2: Question about Glamdring. The wiki says it does +d8 vs orcs, but the artilist.h says PHYS(8, 0) which usually means double damage. 21:13 Question being, is it just doing double damage by default? 21:14 wiki is wrong, perhaps someone misread 21:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Ginebig (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 2299 points, T:2550, caught herself in her own fireball 21:16 what why did pressing escape center it on me 21:16 I suppose that would be double damage vs orcs, not everything then 21:19 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:9362 (1:17:07) 21:22 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:26 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 21:26 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Client Quit] 21:30 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:11425 (1:28:09) 21:55 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.3.1] 21:57 yeah its dbl dmg vs S_ORC 22:00 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:15929 (1:58:04) 22:29 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2796 (1:03:33) 22:29 cool just checkin 22:29 gonna update nerfhack before i go to bed 22:30 yay 22:30 pinky promise 22:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2703 points, T:2817, killed by a giant bat 22:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1526 (0:13:40) 22:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:2253 (0:20:48) 22:53 -!- malor_ has joined #evilhack 22:55 my wizkit file isn't being read by the most recent version (for wiztesting) 22:56 is there somewhere I can specify where to read that file? 22:57 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:59 same folder as the binary 22:59 i get that error all the time but it still reads it 22:59 ya,I figure it out. My rc file wasn't being read. 22:59 bouquet i fixed the drow sewage tile light thing 22:59 who's da man? 23:00 you da man! 23:00 \o/ 23:00 I should be dead any turn and can test it on the next run 23:03 ah no it's not fixed for current live version 23:03 it's fixed for next ver 23:03 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a pair of riding gloves entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:6562 (1:04:14) 23:03 sorry 23:05 curses! 23:05 foiled again 23:05 heh 23:06 i'm working towards new release this month 23:07 pre-drood or will it include druid? 23:08 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:6775 (1:08:44) 23:08 will include druid 23:08 it's basically done, just doing tweaks and such 23:09 fun fact - did you know that the spell 'finger of death' was originally a druid spell? 23:09 maybe? 23:09 1st edition ad&d baby 23:09 I think power word kill was the wizard insta-kill 23:09 i didnt realize this until earlier tonight 23:09 yeah it was 23:09 wait til you see this next commit 23:10 I believe you, but I thought it was cleric? 23:10 nope, druid 23:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) stole 3013 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Niskal's hardware store, on T:4957 (0:40:00) 23:10 loggers thought the same thing 23:10 or maybe that was another spell that caused instadeath to undead. 23:10 wonder where that's coming from 23:11 temple of elemental evil I bet. That had some high power stuff 23:11 ah 23:11 i shifted finger of death over from attack spell to evocation spell, and i just created 'power word kill' as a level 7 attack spell 23:11 my cleric, Bob Forbes, made a mess of that temple boy howdy! 23:12 cool 23:12 it works, just need to tweak it some 23:12 i dunno if i'll commit tonight or wait til tomorrow, gettin sleepy 23:12 and i promised hackemslashem i'd update nerfhack 23:12 I'm impressed with the hours you keep 23:12 i better do that now before i snooze 23:12 nerfhack needs some love 23:12 heh my body isnt :P 23:12 (impressed that is) 23:13 I go to be before you and I'm PST 23:13 that's good actually 23:13 i need to get more sleep than i do 23:13 but shit gotta get done 23:13 up by 5 am baby 23:13 oooof not me 23:13 i can sleep in til 6:45 or so 23:13 if i wanted 5am wakeup i woulda stayed in the army 23:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5172 (0:44:42) 23:19 ok yeah, bedtime for me 23:19 gnite o/ 23:20 later k2! 23:36 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:39 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:6887 (1:09:29) 23:42 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:9337 (1:42:43) 23:42 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 23:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 8862 points, T:7218, killed by Mr. Niskal; the shopkeeper, while praying 23:55 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 12440 points, T:10325, killed by a panther 23:57 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack