00:33 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a pair of low boots entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:15340 (3:46:13) 01:36 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (zinc.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 01:36 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 01:48 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 01:54 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:20540 (5:06:53) 01:57 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 02:01 -!- Glasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:20 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 02:21 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:21842 (5:34:10) 02:29 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Oracle, on T:22448 (5:41:53) 02:57 krm26 you can't get teleportitis from a tin of quantum mechanic meat 02:58 it only toggles intrinsic speed 04:12 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:12 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:19 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:20 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 05:17 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:19 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:34 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:34 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:36 -!- mobileuser has quit [Client Quit] 05:40 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:41 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:56 are you sure mobileuser? in-game info says: Corpse conveys teleportation, speed or slowness 06:56 huh? 06:57 is this some evilhack thing I never knew about? 06:57 i dunno 06:57 let's find out 06:58 ok, i'll eat my tin 06:58 lol I meant in the source code 06:58 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had a trident entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:76785 (12:23:44) 07:00 too late, ate it 07:00 no teleportitis this time at least 07:01 eat.c only mentions slow/fast 07:01 pokedex error i guess 07:01 I think the pokedex lies 07:02 LIES 07:02 which is weird, thought it was programmatic 07:02 @e? quantum mechanic 07:02 quantum mechanic (Q) | Lvl: 7 | Diff: 9 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 10 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 3 | Atk: 1d4 claw teleport | Align: 0 | genocidable, omnivore, tele, poisonous, infravis 07:02 bad code! :D 07:03 k2, in game pokedex says quantum mechanic conveys teleportation in error 07:03 @v?quantum mechanic 07:03 quantum mechanic (Q) | Lvl: 7 | Diff: 9 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 10 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 3 | Atk: 1d4 claw teleport | Align: 0 | genocidable, omnivore, tele, poisonous, infravis 07:03 same as vanilla 07:04 nerfhack has the same bug 07:04 man if i had a war hammer i could forge a war hammer so i could forge something :-P 07:04 heh I know right 07:05 my goblintown is knee-deep in items now 07:05 ive spent half of my 70k turns here, not trying to kill anything, but getting mobbed walking back and forth to my chest 07:06 it has been spawning huge groups often faster than i kill them, pretty funny really 07:06 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Trt Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:77027 (12:31:58) 07:17 pokedex grabs template data from each monster 07:19 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest8973 07:19 -!- Guest8973 has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 07:19 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 07:19 I assume the code in eat.c overrides the template data? 07:20 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had a bone spear entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:77668 (12:45:15) 07:21 so based on seat of the butt stats it seems like when you can wear less gear, your god just grants you more weapons, meaning tortles get almost no gear gifts? 07:21 anyone else have that experience? 07:22 or am i just experiencing my glorious rng? 07:23 mobileuser it could yeah 07:24 krm26 your deity 'knows' not to give you regular gear you cant wear 07:25 right, the question is whether the unavailable gear is filled with helm/glove gifts or weapon gifts 07:25 and it feels like weapon gifts 07:25 i'd have to look 07:25 i dont remember off top of my head 07:25 if the gods always give a fixed percentage of armor vs weapons, which i think they do not, or just pick from a list that is almost entirely weapons for tortles 07:25 which seems...unfriendly 07:25 did you see the druid shapechange commit? 07:26 i can look too, just thought someone might know off the top of their hea 07:26 d 07:26 i saw you spam a huge menu of shapes :-) 07:26 I have zhe kwestions 07:26 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commits/master/ commits from jan 5th 07:26 given how their bracers work, i hope each form is gained by first taming a monster of that type 07:27 mobileuser vere are your paperz 07:27 :-) 07:27 heh 07:28 if you change into eg a woodchuck 07:28 given the large number of forms, consider locking some of them so that the druid needs to accomplish something to unlock? 07:28 don't you just become overloaded/shrink out of armor etc. 07:28 man 07:28 also, druid shapechange should never destroy gear 07:28 they are professionals 07:28 krm26 i know i was thinking that 07:29 mobileuser yeah 07:29 read the commit notes 07:29 both of ya 07:29 busted! 07:29 ok then... 07:29 they could have a special poly, where non-jewelry just "vanished" during shapechange and reappeared worn after, withought conveying properties while shapechanged 07:29 but no i wasnt thinking of having the druid do a thing to unlock tiers - other than leveling up 07:29 isnt that how druid shapechange works in dnd? clothes just poof and then reappear? 07:30 i'm not sure. i dont remember reading that specifically 07:30 while current implementation would be fine, and this isnt really a balance thing, i just think it would be a fun minigame unlocking shapechange forms 07:30 and i hope my immediate suggestions for change arent taken as lack of enthusiasm for all your work :-) 07:30 cool job 07:30 hah no 07:31 to the 'arent taken' bit 07:31 right, read it 07:31 like woodchuck could be first form, since they dont really exist for taming, and hawk, since you start with a tame hawk 07:31 then, once you tame a snake, you can snake 07:31 per ad&d a druid has to be a certain level to be able to shapechange 07:31 at the moment I can't really imagine me ever using this... 07:31 (including level requirements) 07:32 shapechange is an amulet of life saving mobileuser, if it doesnt impair gear 07:32 quick shapechange gives you a free death 07:32 even into a snake 07:33 loggers immediately saw how useful these forms would be 07:33 even the beginning ones 07:33 :P 07:33 only for reaching the magic key ;-) 07:33 snake gets you through iron bars, lizard saves you from stoning, rothe gives you speed for running away 07:33 yeah hawk flies to chest 07:33 can the shapechange be cancelled by reinvoking? i hope so 07:34 having to wait out the change would be...unfortunate 07:34 read the commit notes 07:34 not much use without being able to carry your gear krm26. and when they kill your form you are helpless anyway. 07:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:23170 (6:36:54) 07:34 can hawks lay eggs? 07:35 druids probably shouldnt be able to have babies while polymorphed 07:35 krm26 no they cant... but they should 07:35 and why not? 07:36 what is a useful thing a woodchuck can guys? 07:36 i can name 2 07:36 without getting into self-fertilization... 07:36 *can do 07:36 angering the oracle 07:36 no 07:37 they can swim, and they can chew through rock 07:37 druid may be able to get by without using a pick axe 07:37 :P 07:39 but yeah there's more to do here 07:39 i'm just excited that I figured out a way to do it at all 07:41 since these are all handless and mostly small animals, druid shapechanging could just temporarily hide entire inventory -- no mass, no effect (except maybe necklace/rings) 07:41 so you wouldnt have to f with inventory overloading/loss/management 07:41 if polymorphed during shapechange, to you revert to shapechange form or normal form? 07:42 normal i would imagine 07:42 ents have 'hands' 07:43 hurm 07:43 they do 07:44 no that was a joke 07:44 hurm is one of the noises they make all the time 07:44 ah 07:44 our dog bourbon goes 'murrrr' often 07:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) used a forge to create The Staff of the Archmagi, on T:23392 (6:47:05) 07:45 i guess i'd be tempted to have inventory vanish/reappear for animal shapeshifting and then make ents normal poly? i dunno 07:45 at the very least i'd have armor that would normally be destroyed, just fall off 07:46 if they could shift, not dropping/unusing anything, snake it up for a few rounds, unshift and be fully equipped, people would definitely use the power 07:46 that's more tricky 07:46 but anything is possible 07:46 mobileuser is i think correct that if you first have to drop/stash everything to be unburdened, and then wait for the poly to wear off, it is unlikely to see much use 07:47 'It would be nice if the 07:47 player could change back into original form before the polyform 07:47 timer ends, but I haven't figured that one out yet.' 07:47 ooo 07:47 what about 07:47 did you read the commit notes yet? lol 07:47 bracers shapeshift to like a druid holy symbol or something when you shapeshift -- something that makes sense still being worn in any form (a tool, like eyes) 07:48 in the artifact shapeshift form, they convey mr/reflection 07:48 so you aren't all super vulnerable instatouchofdeathable birds and snakes 07:48 then back to bracers when you unshift 07:48 hrm 07:48 smop smop smop smop 07:48 it shouldnt be dependent on an obj 07:48 hurm! 07:48 i am concerned about giving up resists when shapeshifting 07:49 may be better to make it so all your stuff is still 'worn' 07:49 unless your intent is this to be mostly a pre-sokoban tool 07:49 i mean, there are a lot of limitations that go along with being an animal, being able to animal-up to gain mr wouldnt be the worst thing in the world 07:49 and tying it to the quest artifact gates it 07:50 K2 I am naive, but can you reuse some of the code that let's you return to your own form when you pray 07:50 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 07:50 1) no you are not and 2) good idea 07:50 \o/ 07:51 i looked at different bits of code to make this shapechange thing happen 07:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had a trident entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:78719 (13:16:13) 07:51 brb 07:58 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:58 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Lolth, on T:24195 (7:07:41) 08:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:24588 (7:17:06) 08:15 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had a glass long sword entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:83381 (13:43:24) 08:20 <@Loggers_VIII> whoa much backscroll 08:22 <@Loggers_VIII> I agree with mobileuser and krm26 that something has to be done regarding encumbrance and armor when shifting into animal form, but it seems like such a significant issue I was sure it’d be dealt with before release anyway lol 08:23 <@Loggers_VIII> encumbrance is the big one for me. I don’t want to have to drop all my shit for monsters to come by and scavenge while I’m off running animal errands or whatever 08:29 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:85102 (13:54:18) 08:31 <@Loggers_VIII> a decent gift for krm26?? no way 08:31 <@Loggers_VIII> I had sworn you were due for at least 5 more +3 wooden axes 08:32 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:32 that was an accident, i'm trying to crown for vuplrl blrd 08:34 so two things to address 08:34 omigod what did i do now 08:34 1) inventory and 2) being able to revert back to normal form at will 08:34 krm26 nothing :P 08:34 just picking up where we left off 08:34 ...we need to talk 08:34 i had to drive mini-me to school 08:35 mine gets one more day off this year for some reason, starts tomorrow 08:35 school started back for us last thursday 08:35 so how does the sceptre of might invocation toggle work? might be a mechanism for a #shapeshift toggle 08:35 #invoke 08:35 :P 08:35 right 08:35 but it has both a timer and lets you turn it off 08:36 its tied to obj->age 08:36 cant use that 08:36 oh i have an idea 08:36 i think i see a way to do it 08:37 without adding extra stuff 08:37 !! 08:37 yeah 08:37 gimmie a few min 08:37 i gotta eat 08:38 power bar breakfast wooo 08:39 anywho - i knew there'd be more to do with the shapechanging stuff. it's nice to get the first commit out though, something that works 08:40 then the rest of ya can look at it and go 'wtf is this mess?' and fix it :P 08:43 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:51 You return to tortle form! 08:52 two lines baby 08:55 <@Loggers_VIII> the world’s greatest programmer does it again… a 08:55 one down, one to go 08:55 you'll see the commit link soon 08:55 <@Loggers_VIII> I’m a little nervous because I’ve been thinking about the encumbrance thing for a while and can’t come up with anything I like, but I’m sure someone smarter than me will figure it out :) 08:55 but, you just use the #shapechange command while poly'd to revert back 08:56 @Loggers_VIII i wish i were the worlds greatest programmer hah 08:56 i struggled with this bit 08:56 someone like aosdict or qt could have knocked it out in under an hour probably 08:56 <@Loggers_VIII> heh yeah we’d be on evilhack 3.9 :P 08:56 familiarity with code base trumps everything else for rework like this 08:56 took me better part of 24 hrs just for that one commit 08:58 being able to implement a selection sort in a few minutes means nothing when confronted with a wall of legacy software :-) 08:58 EvilHack Commits: Allow Druids that have shapechanged to revert back to normal form at … https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/fcba65542ad7c98adc4c86354822481b006d24ab 08:58 that was the hardest part for me 08:58 the menu 08:59 and it's not perfect - if you remove the filters and have it list every monsters, for some reason the very first monster (giant ant) isn't assigned a menu selection. it's there, just cant pick it 08:59 -s 09:00 two of my most valuable engineers, one could look at your fast faurier transform implementation and make it run twice as fast with a few tweaks, but the other just knew every line of code in our 4 decades old core execution codebase 09:00 heh 09:00 n-1 of your problems are always off by one errors, as they say 09:00 brb 09:08 weeee 09:10 wish my god would give me a war hammer 09:15 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Trt Fem Neu) became The Lady's Envoy of Balance, on T:88459 (14:41:51) 09:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had a pair of iron gauntlets entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:89277 (14:47:57) 09:24 if you paralyze a quivering blob, it should just be a blob 09:25 <@fubaz> What’s a good polyform for killing Oracle while not destroying 8 ball? Gray Dragon? I did silver and digested it, but got killed/changed back as I digested fully so I really lucked out 09:26 i didnt think any dragon would destroy the 8 ball? it is plastic, but an artifact 09:27 assume just dont petrify/disintegrate 09:27 <@fubaz> Well what about black dragon breath 09:28 yeah i wouldnt disintegrate him 09:28 <@fubaz> Maybe elder Minotaur just on the basis of hit die + attack strength? 09:28 an elder minotaur would make quick work of him but you'd have to eat his strikeback defense 09:29 <@fubaz> I ate a ton of passive as silver dragon 09:29 yeah i dont recommend melee 09:29 yellow dragon could just acid blast him to death 09:30 <@fubaz> Can breath attack be MRed? 09:30 isn't the Oracle "her"? 09:30 <@fubaz> Yes 09:30 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 09:33 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 09:36 this is a tough nut to crack 09:37 i'm trying to figure out two things now 09:38 1) how to keep the druid 'strong' if they #shapechange into something that isnt and 2) keep all the gear (armor doesnt break, could even stay worn maybe, weapons dont drop) 09:38 still wouldnt be able to wield a weapon if no hands though 09:41 is there some central function that calculates carry cap? 09:42 if there is, maybe you could call it (or add exceptions) to pretend the player is still in original form 09:42 yeah but i dont think that's the way to do it 09:43 perhaps 09:43 i'd approach it this way: new flag for every item slot, for temporarily hidden in shapeshift form 09:43 looking in set_mon_data() right now 09:43 when flag is set, letter still unavailable, but not displayed, weight not applied 09:43 but would maintain equip flag, could at your option still count equipped gear as equipped 09:43 so you would mark everything in inventory with the flag when you shift 09:44 so you could still pick up items (unless at 52 item cap) 09:44 and when you revert would retain items you picked up 09:44 this is i think not as hard as it sounds at first glance 09:45 would only have to check that flag in a couple of places 09:45 would only set/unset it in the shapeshift code 09:45 why don't you want it displayed? 09:45 i guess my preference? could also display but instead of (10 aum) could show (shapeshifted) 09:45 that might actually be better now that i think on it 09:46 gotta be per-item-slot so you can pick up and drop stuff while shifted 09:46 i was gonna hide because you shouldnt be able to DROP the shifted stuff when shifted, nor should it be stealable, burnable, etc 09:46 anyway my 2c 09:47 hmm 09:47 I would just keep it simple. If the form allows you to use it, you can use it 09:49 the flag is maybe not needed---could have the inventory work special whenever druids are polyd into druid-allowed forms 09:49 sure, it would also activate when polying via other means, but why shouldn't it after all? 09:51 my vote would be that nonequipped items act normally but have reduced weight, and worn items are "melded" or something, having reduced weight, providing benefits except AC, and unable to be taken off 09:51 I'm being outvoted :-P 09:53 reasons for inventory acting mostly normal: it's waaay easier, it's more intuitive and provides fewer reasons to avoid shapechanging, and i think the idea of a dire wolverine wearing a lil' backpack is hilarious 09:54 you would check against u.ushapechange 09:54 regular polying would be unaffected 09:54 i'm trying some stuff in break_armor() and its not working :/ 09:55 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:55 if you #shapechanged, immediately died, and then polyd, wouldn't u.ushapechange make it look like you were druid-shapeshifted? 09:56 perhaps 09:56 i havent tested every scenario yet 09:57 speaking of, if you poly into something shortly after using #shapechange, you can unpoly with #shapechange 09:59 yes 09:59 i think that's fine 09:59 <@fubaz> How does that interact with weresickness 09:59 druids are the master of all things poly 09:59 a polluted weredruid should not be able to #shapeshift imo 09:59 <@fubaz> You’re still sick even if you shapechange out? 10:00 good question (and good suggestion krm26) 10:00 <@fubaz> Maybe just force transformation into werefoo 10:00 oooh i see why this isnt working... 10:00 heh 10:01 the special bit is nice because it lets you distinguish between "held when shifted" and picked up after shifting 10:01 the more i think about it, given that some of the forms basically have 0 carry capacity, really all current inventory should be melded and inaccessible and weightless during the shift 10:01 with ents maybe being a special case 10:02 that makes sense but then i think u.ushapechange should not be checked when reverting, just Upolyd and i suppose u.ulycn 10:02 ok i just solved one piece of the puzzle 10:02 i kinda think that an "entform" spell would be better than shapeshifting into an ent, given how different it is from the other animal forms 10:02 i just shapechanged into a snake and i am still 'wearing' my cloak 10:02 dun DUN 10:02 and how stylish snake-you looks in your snake-cloak 10:03 \o/ 10:03 i dont like weightless 10:03 or rather ______o-< 10:03 i feel like the problem with things being entirely weightless is it makes it real easy to cheese 10:03 that's cheating 10:03 would allow a shapechanged druid to carry whatever they want as much as they want 10:03 shapechange into a cave bear, throw on an amulet of unchanging, profit 10:04 or change into anything really 10:04 how would a cave bear put on an amulet of unchanging? 10:04 ok for argument sake, ent 10:04 since they have hands 10:04 i mean, given its timeout, is it really a big deal if you can load up, turn into a hawk, fly anywhere, drop stuff? 10:04 like i was saying, since ents arent animals, i think they should be different 10:05 <@fubaz> Can it just work like regular poly, maybe warn about chest armor breakage with a prompt? 10:05 i think a better solution is to treat any #shapechange form as strongmonst() 10:05 but nobody is going to turn into most of those forms, or hardly ever, if they have their normal carry capacities 10:05 with other forms of poly and poly control you could maintain the form nearly all the time even without unchanging 10:05 that gives you 18/** str 10:05 18/100 10:06 just seems weird to me for a hawk to be able to hoover up a piece of plate mail and move it around 10:06 the "stuff on me vanishes while hawk form and reappears after" makes -- i wanna say :-) -- "sense" 10:06 well in this case it's not a regular hawk 10:06 you are druid hawk of the wildlands 10:06 and you name is... Steve 10:06 normal inventory already has several layers of abstraction 10:07 K2 would that risk being able to carry more as woodchuck then as your original form? 10:07 <@fubaz> Make it a roc, it’ll have no issues carrying stuff 10:07 you can't convince me that carrying around two or three sets of plate mail is reasonable for a human 10:08 <@fubaz> Lift more brah 10:08 mobileuser yeah potentially 10:09 but at least its not making everything weightless 10:09 true! 10:09 would that affect melee damage significantly? 10:09 i dont think so 10:09 all of the forms have no hands except ent 10:09 and they are already strong 10:10 cool 10:10 <@fubaz> When polyed and unarmed attacking, bare hands skill doesn’t give bonus to hit or does it? 10:11 dunno off top of my head 10:11 i'm working on the inventory piece right now :P 10:11 <@fubaz> I think it is the case with DC:SS, different game of course 10:11 ok so right now, my test druid shapechanged into a snek 10:12 and all its armor is still being worn 10:12 the strength bit, maybe its as simple and forcing the M2_STRONG flag when u.ushapechange is active 10:13 so check this out - https://termbin.com/9vnk 10:14 first I had to move initializing u.ushapechange *before* polymon() fired 10:14 once that was done, rest was easy 10:14 <@fubaz> Segmented plate mail for snek 10:14 return FALSE in breakarm() and sliparm() is u.ushapechange has a value other than 0 10:15 and then check for u.ushapechange a couple more times where breakarm() and sliparm() dont apply 10:15 gonna leave unwielding weapon if nohands 10:15 because that's just silly otherwise 10:16 i could slap in some feedback like 'your armor melds with your form' or some shit 10:18 if you take of your armor while #shapechange, you wont be able to put it back on 10:18 that's fair 10:18 *take off 10:19 as a snek 'Don't even bother.' 10:19 heh 10:19 oh something else i could look at 10:20 if #shapechange and you cant wield a weapon, just unwield it instead of dropping it outright 10:20 so really the big nut to crack here is the strength bit 10:20 my brain hurts... gonna do dishes 10:20 brb 10:20 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3473 points, T:4989, killed by an ancient pseudodragon, while sleeping 10:25 jotting this down before i forget - what happens if a druid is wearing a ring of poly control when they use #shapechange ? need to handle that 10:26 back to dishes 10:31 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:33 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:33 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 10:34 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 10:36 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Cen Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:5652 (0:50:37) 10:37 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 10:37 ugh i gotta clean the range/oven next 10:37 long logs to read through today... just like the good old days :) 10:38 heh 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1251 (0:07:01) 10:42 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 18 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:1946 (0:11:13) 10:44 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 16 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:2277 (0:12:39) 10:50 ok weapon bit figured out 10:51 you'll just release it instead of dropping it 10:51 and armor is figured 10:51 maybe mobileuser is on the right track concerning manipulating carry cap 10:52 hmm 10:53 remind me what mobileuser thinks concerning manipulating carry cap lol 10:53 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 10:53 ok lets get Loggers_VIII caught up :) 10:54 I kinda skimmed on the logs honestly, not my best reading today :p 10:54 we're making it so when a druid uses #shapechange, they dont have to worry about breaking armor, or dropping things, or being so encumbered they cant move 10:55 first two i got 10:55 last bit is a bit more tricky 10:55 (or it's simple and i dont see it yet) 10:56 right 10:56 surprised ive never seen this before -- tame named gremlin pets duplicate themselves with their name 10:56 a level full of Bob 10:56 I remember seeing krm26 suggest weightless unusable items and you saying could set the polyforms as strong 10:57 yup, but i dont think either of those may be the right way to go 10:57 polytrap next to a river that turns your pet into a gremlin is craycray 10:57 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:58 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5621 points, T:3636, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted dark elven watch captain 10:58 give druids a pocket dimension forest level to stuff their items in before polying or something idk :P 10:59 that's a joke suggestion but actually you could just steal ndnh's etheraloid gimmick for that 10:59 :P 10:59 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Val Cen Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible splungetoo's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:8104 (1:13:35) 11:00 trying a thing 11:03 i have been first-round thieved by every single hobbit pickpocket i've seen this game, and every time they have taken my mainhand weapon. i'm in my high teens now 11:03 they're getting smarter :) 11:04 we should check backlogs, see what krm26 said way back when to piss off the RNG 11:05 i guess in the pickpockets defense this may be another f-you artifact of being a tortle -- have so few items in use to choose between for stealing 11:05 oh hey that worked 11:05 means i cant use vorpal blade tho 11:06 mobileuser is the winner 11:06 carrycap manipulation ftw 11:06 it's a hobbit lol oneshot him 11:06 wasn't even a one-liner, just edited one line 11:06 loggers, it always gets the first round, im a frigging tortle 11:07