00:21 [hdf-au] [evil] Sectumsempra (Kni Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:12066 (1:44:34) 00:34 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 00:35 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:37 -!- Glasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:06 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 01:11 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:13 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 01:20 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:39 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 01:44 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 3641 points, T:5868, killed by a water troll of Ptah 01:58 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 02:03 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 258 points, T:968, killed by a bear trap 02:09 [hdf-au] [evil] Sectumsempra (Kni Orc Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:13568 (2:04:09) 02:15 [hdf-au] [evil] Sectumsempra (Kni Orc Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:13864 (2:09:20) 02:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:982 (0:06:29) 02:22 [hdf-au] [evil] Sectumsempra (Kni Orc Fem Cha) destroyed splungetoo's ghost, the former Brute, on T:14507 (2:17:13) 02:32 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 02:37 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:50 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 02:55 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:11 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:23 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 03:28 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:34 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:6116 (0:39:45) 03:48 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 03:50 , 03:50 Umbire: Message from K2 at 2024-12-16 10:24 EST: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/ce0a2c33015f139a5905203ec0134a363487a0d1 03:50 Umbire: Message from K2 at 2024-12-16 10:24 EST: use the search function on github while on the evilhack repo page, you can find 99% of the answers you seek that way 03:50 yeah I found that after I initially asked 03:59 Umbire: a small tidbit I stumbled over yesterday. The Tsurugi of Muramasa grants half physical damage when carried in EvilHack, UnNetHack, and Hackem. 03:59 notably does not in nerfhack and xnethack 03:59 I have at least part of that down 03:59 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 03:59 and yeah, I have to add nerfhack to the articles now too... 04:00 I looked the artifact up yesterday after an ascension post in /r/nethack where the player suggested making it one handed. 04:00 So it's on carry rather than wielded 04:01 oh, wait, it's only wielded in hackem 04:01 and in evil? 04:02 in fact lemme... 04:02 evil is carried 04:03 unnethack just copied evil there 04:03 right, just making sure I read properly 04:03 the commit message is clear there :) I misread the commit message of hackem 04:04 I have also lost track what's the status and relationships of hackem, hackem-muche, and nerfhack 04:04 hackem is the old one that malor manages 04:04 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:04 hackem-muche -> nerfhack is the 3.7 revision 04:05 also looking at artilist.h in hackem OG, HPD still seems to be on carry? 04:05 it might be luck that's on-wield 04:05 https://github.com/k21971/HackEM/blob/master/include/artilist.h#L739 04:06 commit message says it should be on wield, though 04:07 https://github.com/k21971/HackEM/commit/898680369f7d9fc5702fa992fc6dbc8bc28ef1dc 04:07 and that one came from evil too https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/898680369f7d9fc5702fa992fc6dbc8bc28ef1dc 04:08 bhaak, so that's a bit confusing to try to parse 04:10 yes, it is 04:10 confusing to parse 04:11 I'm checking with a real game 04:11 doesn't help I basically just woke up 04:11 !tell K2 thanks again, and apologies - I was sleepy and about to check out when I inquired 04:11 I'm on it, Umbire. 04:11 darn timezones 04:12 !tell K2 so the ol' brain wasn't quite working 04:12 I'm on it, Umbire. 04:12 bhaak, it's also 4am now lol 04:13 it's 10am here :) "You take half physical damage." "f - ) the uncursed +0 Tsurugi of Muramasa" 04:13 it's carried in unnethack and then it should also be carried in evilhack 04:14 also reminds me that unnethack still missing some enlightment bits and most importantly the "from what" category 04:14 I DO have a local build 04:15 I lose my local builds every time I reboot because I install them into /tmp/ :) 04:15 lol 04:15 yep, HPD on wield only 04:16 it's not obvious in the code why that is though 04:16 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 04:16 And now it is 04:16 "HPD on wield only" in which variant? 04:17 wield, carry, 0 04:17 bhaak, EvilHack 04:17 as I said, just tested locally 04:17 (0.8.4) 04:18 Same for Hack'EM, the carry field is 0 there as well 04:18 how did you check that for evilhack? 04:19 local build!!! 04:19 I have a wizmode game going so I just use that 04:19 then I compared to the code and sussed out what bits did what 04:19 yeah, but where did you look in the game so it tells you? 04:19 ^X in wizmode is just enlightenment basically 04:20 checked with Tsurugi in inventory, then again with it wielded 04:20 (forced both times since wizard is an elven Healer) 04:20 ah, there it is 04:20 yep yep 04:20 that is odd 04:21 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:21 in unnethack it is carried. the enlightment dialog doesn't show half damage at all, though. so I first had to copy code over from vanilla 04:22 bhaak, https://github.com/k21971/UnNetHack/blob/master/include/artilist.h#L272 04:22 this code has it in the carry field 04:22 which is what those commits I linked fixed for Evil/Hack'EM 04:23 oh, there it is 04:24 898680369 Fix: Angelslayer and the Tsurugi of Muramasa were conferring properties on carry when it should have been on wield. 04:24 yahuh 04:24 just updated the article with all that 04:24 pesky little braces 04:30 I usually use the latest version on HDF for wiki updates, since in most cases the dev pushes any updates to their game to K2 as well 04:40 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:45 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:48 nice detective work Umbire and bhaak 04:48 aye 04:52 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 04:57 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:06 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 05:24 <@hackemslashem> bhaak: hackem-muche doesn't exist anymore, I think the only remnant of it is the reversed scroll name appearance in nerf now 05:27 speaking of hack'em, making a star vampire article soonish 05:27 <@hackemslashem> Also, our trip back to the US went smoothly, now back on EST 🙂 just have to adjust to 6 hours of jet lag now 05:28 oh, look at that. https://github.com/elunna/HACKEM-MUCHE redirects to https://github.com/elunna/NerfHack 05:28 @hackemslashem how did you manage that? 05:29 How soon do you think you'll have a NerfHack article up? 05:30 I am going to guess: not before the jet lag wears off ;-) 05:32 lol 05:32 I don't expect it to be a hurry, just figured I might as well ask 05:37 <@hackemslashem> That's some black link forwarding there, no idea lol 05:37 <@hackemslashem> S/link/magic 05:39 <@hackemslashem> Ya no rush for articles yet 05:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 849 points, T:2421, killed by a mountain dwarf 06:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2078 (0:09:31) 06:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3219 (0:16:19) 06:15 Imanity still having it rough eh? 06:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3337 (0:17:58) 06:18 he's trying to speed run 06:19 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 06:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:34924 (14:43:51) 06:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34929 (14:44:32) 06:27 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:29 I see 06:29 What about you, just another game mobileuser? :B 06:29 lol yeah 06:30 gotta stay ahead of krm26 :-P 06:31 pf 06:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) completed her quest without incident, on T:35400 (15:06:47) 06:54 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Star_vampire_(SLASH'EM) 06:54 woof 06:54 took a bit more than I'd expected 07:03 nasty things 07:03 less so than you might expect in practice but yeah 07:05 given they're diff 28 07:05 they can quickly bring your HP down I've noticed 07:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:8488 (0:58:26) 07:09 Yeah, don't take them lightly for sure 07:23 :) 07:23 K2: Message from Umbire at 2024-12-17 04:11 EST: thanks again, and apologies - I was sleepy and about to check out when I inquired 07:23 K2: Message from Umbire at 2024-12-17 04:12 EST: so the ol' brain wasn't quite working 07:24 morning K2 07:25 listed the vampires added to Evil finally, did up a stub on the antimatter vortex 07:25 nice 07:25 Need to once over it - I'll probably leave the strategy to mobileuser et. al. :B but I can at least list specific areas they gen in because I remember a few 07:26 I meant on the monclass page but now I'm tempted to check the main page too... 07:26 Oh nope, not on the Evil article, can't have that 07:27 fixfixfix 07:30 oh interesting, they're not immune to acid 07:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11515 (1:21:39) 07:34 most things arent 07:35 yeah but I expected those might be 07:35 though I imagine it's intentional to give folks an out 07:37 bam, done 07:49 Oh, speaking of antimatter vortices 07:49 bhaak, https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Antimatter_vortex_(EvilHack) 07:50 is that accurate enough for unnethack versions? 07:50 checked against the changelogs/commit history to be sure 07:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:14049 (1:39:52) 07:54 there, just finished another pass over the article 07:57 and another... 07:57 yay, more monsters on the evilhack page! 07:58 mobileuser, can add your strategic chops to that vortex article if you want :B 07:58 Umbire: seems sound 07:59 I'll think about, gods know I have dealt with those antimatter bastards often enough! 08:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:501 (0:02:17) 08:16 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2604 (0:15:55) 08:34 @hackemslashem and malor: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Star_vampire_(Hack%27EM) 08:35 looks nice and good to me. 08:35 alright, small break before I take care of a couple of tangential articles... 08:51 oh what the hell 08:51 apparently shadow ogres just plain don't have a frequency value 08:51 for SLASH'EM and SlashTHEM 08:52 <@hackemslashem> Nope, were they only in grunds level? 08:54 Yeah 08:55 but since they literally don't have a specified frequency you won't find them anywhere else outside of polymorph 08:55 because they're marked Gehennom only 09:02 obviously hack'EM fixed that but wew 09:02 surprised I only just noticed 09:08 -!- Loggers_IX has joined #evilhack 09:08 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:14 huh, hack'em still has the thing where they aren't mentioned in the ogre's makemon.c case 09:15 can probably make a note to PR for that 09:16 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a helmet entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:1003 (0:05:50) 09:17 <@hackemslashem> Shadow ogres got a little revamp for nerf, they are always invisible with some meaner attacks 👹 09:18 wayment 09:19 they're also death resistant? 09:19 didn't see that in monst.c 09:20 (referring to Hack'EM rather than nerf in this instance) 09:21 ah, so hack'em has that flag too, dunno how I didn't consider it 09:21 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 330 points, T:1556, killed by a wererat 09:23 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1912 (0:13:34) 09:24 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2247 points, T:1963, killed by a piranha 09:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:16742 (2:00:53) 09:31 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) had a spellbook of jumping given to her by Lolth, on T:1132 (0:08:59) 09:39 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 2205 points, T:3690, poisoned by a giant mosquito 09:43 -!- Loggers_IX has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:7495 (1:06:52) 09:48 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 09:48 -!- Loggers_IX has joined #evilhack 09:49 now to do what I just did for the ogre mage also 09:51 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 369 points, T:2293, killed by an orcish arrow 09:52 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 09:56 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) averted death (poisoned by a rabid dog), on T:7775 (1:17:35) 09:58 whoa hello 09:59 hack'EM DIDN'T fix the same error for the ogre mage 10:05 <@hackemslashem> Doh 10:08 @hackemslashem https://github.com/Umbire/HackEM-1/commit/8cd8c9c16bced9670ecf7496faf8fed78645bc21 would this syntax be correct for making the ogres from SLASH'EM eligible for the same weapon generation odds? 10:08 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:12 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:42084 (7:45:17) 10:13 <@hackemslashem> Yea that should do it, maybe the second check should just check it's not an ogre to make it more readable. 10:13 <@hackemslashem> : mm != PM_OGRE) ? 6 : 12)) 10:15 Aye - can pass that along to malor if you want 10:15 I can* 10:15 <@hackemslashem> Sounds good 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 1099 points, T:3358, killed by an ancient pseudodragon called Draig, while sleeping 10:29 -!- Loggers_IX has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:39 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:10836 (2:00:25) 10:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) had a helmet entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:36874 (15:41:07) 10:55 a helmet 10:56 like getting socks for christmas 11:01 it's called "regifting" :B 11:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) had a pair of speed boots entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:37222 (15:52:17) 11:06 heh 11:07 speed boot are excellent 11:07 *boots 11:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 2511 points, T:2613, quit 11:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 12021 points, T:9206, poisoned by a jumping spider 11:18 -!- LoggersGondorff has joined #evilhack 11:18 -!- LoggersGondorff is now known as Loggers_IX 11:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:27382 (3:14:58) 11:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 79998 points, T:27598, poisoned by a locust 11:26 -!- Loggers_IX has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) had a two-handed sword entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:37790 (16:06:39) 11:33 -!- LoggersGondorff has joined #evilhack 11:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) had a staff of holiness entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:10395 (2:06:48) 11:33 -!- LoggersGondorff is now known as Loggers_IX 11:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1208 (0:06:50) 11:52 -!- Loggers_IX78 has joined #evilhack 11:54 -!- Loggers_IX has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:54 -!- Loggers_IX78 is now known as Loggers_IX 12:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "E", on T:4104 (0:27:53) 12:09 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1217 (0:20:55) 12:14 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1663 (0:25:50) 12:25 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4494 (0:25:12) 12:26 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "sdflkj", on T:4694 (0:26:21) 12:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:6213 (0:51:16) 12:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:39717 (16:42:08) 12:31 woohoo 12:31 and now I'm bored with camping for now :-) 12:37 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 12:38 There is a gray dragon 12:38 in mine's end 12:38 :) 12:39 -!- Loggers_IX has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:39 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:39 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 12:39 -!- Loggers_IX has joined #evilhack 12:40 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 12:41 gotta love polytraps 12:44 Yes :/ 12:45 Maybe my vorpalbro can handle him. Will see 12:45 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:46 lol oneshot 12:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7067 (1:01:06) 12:50 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7755 (0:50:12) 12:55 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha) destroyed splungetoo's ghost, the former Inmate, on T:8316 (0:55:32) 12:55 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha) destroyed karibou's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:8357 (0:55:42) 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven long sword entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:42981 (8:17:08) 13:00 -!- Loggers_IX has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:10484 (1:11:33) 13:12 @e?saber-toothed tiger 13:12 saber-toothed tiger (f) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 14 | Res: cold | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 3d4 claw physical, 3d4 claw physical, 4d4 bite physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, thick hide, infravis 13:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:40446 (17:10:24) 13:26 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 13:26 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:37 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 16335 points, T:14324, killed by an elven watch captain 13:41 I enter the Oracle level, and there's a demilich?? 13:41 I was using telepathy from entry, so no polytrap. I have bones disabled also 13:41 K2, can these spawn randomly? 13:42 At DL 7 13:42 shapechanger? 13:42 ^ 13:42 Maybe 13:42 Weird form to take to start with tho 13:42 yes 13:42 is chameleon 13:45 K2, I know you can wish for regular bracers, but do they generate randomly anywhere? 13:46 yeah 13:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:11539 (1:46:55) 13:47 neat 13:47 searching for details is gonna be tricky since it'll catch the dark elven bracers in the results 13:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:12118 (1:53:29) 14:00 K2, https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Bracers 14:02 hmm, not seeing random generation for the item (in 0.8.4) but they can be forged 14:04 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/objects.c#L555-L556 14:04 I know they exist! 14:05 no, look 14:05 I'm looking for whether or not they pop up in the game 14:05 it shows you right there 14:05 ah you mean the obj prob 14:05 I noticed that when checking before - was thinking more about finding them in particular locations 14:05 yes 14:05 seems not to be the case though (yet) 14:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 14560 points, T:7785, killed by a shocking sphere's explosion 14:06 they can spawn randomly, prob of 4 14:06 like in specific branches and such 14:06 the druid quest artifact are runed bracers 14:07 also look in makemon, see if i added bracers to any of the gear monsters can spwan with 14:07 I did, all of those look to be just the dark elven kind 14:07 ok 14:07 will need to give another lookover in case I missed anything 14:08 and to detail the dark elven bracers article 14:08 ty K2 14:09 o/ 14:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1479 (0:12:50) 14:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1632 (0:17:19) 14:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 2642 points, T:2067, killed by a bolt of cold 14:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1515 (1:09:23) 14:37 forgot i had this run 14:46 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:46 K2: i dont know if i am running an outdated version, it says Unix EvilHack Version 0.8.3-0 post-release - last build Wed Feb 7 15:49:32 2024, but when i press w to wield as a convict it doesnt display my iron ball but i can still type the letter of it 14:46 it should be displayed 14:47 that's an older version 14:47 and yeah that's normal 14:47 iron ball for convicts will train flail skill 14:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3246 (1:19:13) 14:48 yes i know they train that but i'd expected that the wield menu displays iron balls, too if you are a convict 14:48 i call bug 14:49 its not 14:49 iron ball isnt technically a weapon 14:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 5590 points, T:3434, killed by a bolt of fire 14:49 of course that happens 14:49 you can wield other objects that arent weapons, they do not show up as a letter to pick 14:50 yes but qol 14:50 think of the qol, evilhack could be a leader in qol, like with paranoid_swim 14:50 yeah you just killed your argument 14:50 i dont like paranoid swim 14:50 never ever lead with that 14:54 here's a pic of a cat to make you feel better - https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2652/source 14:55 back in a bit 14:56 heres a pic of a cat to make you feel worse about it: https://0x0.st/H77l.jpeg 14:57 (that is fussili and he has been adopted since some time now \o/) 15:06 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 15:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) performed her first genocide (basilisks), on T:44036 (17:46:02) 15:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) had a helmet entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:45001 (17:55:56) 15:19 yay another helmet 15:20 -!- Loggers_IX has joined #evilhack 15:20 -!- Loggers_IX has quit [Client Quit] 15:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 52406 points, T:19156, killed by a queen ant 15:22 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 47 points, T:183, killed by a falling rock 15:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3070 (0:14:02) 15:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3392 (0:15:34) 15:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 3130 points, T:4970, killed by a goblin-captain called Zabaneai of Azogul 15:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1776 (0:10:11) 16:13 <@hackemslashem> K2: 3.7 now has paranoid poison gas, what's next, paranoid old food? 16:15 does it 16:15 ? 16:15 * K2 sighs 16:19 I mean, typo-stepping onto an obvious visible hazard is fundamentally different from losing track of which items are safe to use, IMO. 16:19 I don't really see why a stinking cloud should be different from water or lava, in that regard. 16:24 <@hackemslashem> Simple, it's a dungeon, not a safe space. With a trap you'll at least run into it once, with gas one could only be at risk if shot at by a green dragon, or a couple other niche cases. 16:25 it really shouldnt be up to the game to protect the player from themselves 16:25 i get it, there are already some paranoid bits that have existed for a long time 16:25 but at what point does it become hand holding? 16:25 hint - it's slowly getting to that point 16:26 You could undo the change for Evilhack 16:26 i plan to when evilhack is on 3.7 16:26 Nice 16:26 Nah, just merge all the paranoid_foo options to paranoid_mode, and have it confirm every single act. 16:26 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:26 "Are you sure you want to move northwest? (yes/no)" 16:26 kekw 16:27 YANI: paranoid swim and like settings should have a chance to fail based on the players int and/or wis 16:27 <@hackemslashem> I already undid the safe gas change for nerfhack, other paranoid stuff seems fine whatever 16:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 3531 points, T:5058, quit 16:33 woah tortle healer with dragonhide toque, noice 16:35 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Val Gia Fem Neu), 585 points, T:1226, killed by the Goblin King 16:35 helmet gifted by the god back on the pile... 16:39 heh 16:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 322 points, T:754, killed by a gnome zombie 16:42 YANI: Rogues gain XP for robbing shopkeepers 16:42 <@Loggers_VIII> why would that be int/wis re: paranoid options failing? seems more like a dex check to me 16:46 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 16:47 <@hackemslashem> Umbire you should pitch it to the devteam it fits with their other recent XP changes 16:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 346 points, T:679, killed by the Goblin King 16:52 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1219 (0:07:10) 16:55 What the fuck 16:55 My AL just warped to the goblin king and killed him, from the entrance 16:57 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 17:03 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:04 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:07 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:4929 (0:12:46) 17:11 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5407 (0:16:43) 17:20 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 17:31 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a dark elven watch captain), on T:8406 (0:37:00) 17:31 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a dark elven watch captain), on T:8409 (0:37:03) 17:31 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha), 9533 points, T:8411, killed by a dark elven watch captain, while attempting to cheat Death 17:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 4478 points, T:7719, killed by the Rat King 17:49 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1578 (0:38:47) 17:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) had a magical dark elven tunic entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:10616 (2:11:09) 17:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1936 (0:08:29) 17:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:1993 (0:08:46) 17:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) genocided energy vortices, on T:2001 (0:09:22) 17:58 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 18:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a potion of paralysis on an altar, on T:3039 (0:16:15) 18:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3971 points, T:3495, killed by a pony 18:03 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 18:05 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 694726 points, T:44974, killed by a touch of death 18:06 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 18:06 !lastgame 18:06 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elron/evilhack/dumplog/1734192890.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/K/Kaizo/evilhack/dumplog/1734472078.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Sectumsempra/evilhack/dumplog/1733998095.evil.html 18:07 done in by the horned devil 18:08 drag 18:08 real drag 18:08 you'll break through again soon, I believe in ya 18:08 :) 18:09 on that note, articles to do and I know the next one 18:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 fireproof dragonhide gauntlets of power", on T:11206 (2:31:52) 18:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 4210 points, T:4776, killed by a death ray 18:18 Gnoll hunter spawned in with a wand of death 18:18 Lovely 18:19 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 18:21 :( 18:26 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 479 points, T:1425, killed by a bugbear 18:29 :( 18:34 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4664 (0:23:31) 18:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1610 (0:07:14) 18:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1023 points, T:2085, killed by a piranha 18:43 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 18:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:974 (0:05:32) 18:49 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:58 [hdf-au] [evil] Sectumsempra (Kni Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17133 (2:48:04) 18:58 EvilHack Commits: Redo stats for grizzly bear/cave bear. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/cd2fbb45630c669eaa0a1cb3f7f81cd0bd46c7ce 19:07 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism by offering a small mimic corpse on an altar of Anhur, on T:6105 (1:29:43) 19:19 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 12882 points, T:7658, killed by an ettin zombie 19:20 so excited for Evil bears 19:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:16825 (3:38:24) 19:22 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1849 (0:11:33) 19:25 da bears 19:32 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dagger on an altar, on T:3018 (0:21:28) 19:42 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed idol of moloch", on T:11524 (1:31:24) 19:43 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1314 points, T:2634, killed by a bolt of fire 19:45 -!- qt has quit [Quit: bye] 19:50 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 19:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 387 points, T:1108, killed by the Goblin King 19:52 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4432 (0:41:35) 19:56 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1148 (0:05:54) 19:59 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14704 (1:48:21) 20:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1434 (0:08:18) 20:03 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 23706 points, T:15150, killed by a dwarf queen 20:16 i am looking forward to bear / bee interactions 20:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3917 (0:24:49) 20:19 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:8171 (1:07:59) 20:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 2362 points, T:5217, quit 20:24 Worst minetown I've seen. Not even a container or magic whistle 20:26 thats not uncommon with the standard crappy minetown. that thing is a pile of crap compared to the best town, orctown! 20:26 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:26 Yep xD 20:32 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:10924 (1:21:16) 20:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1446 (0:08:37) 20:39 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 20:41 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 1589 points, T:2820, killed by a giant mosquito 20:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1637 points, T:2347, killed by a piranha 20:45 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven dagger entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:14185 (1:33:39) 20:46 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 3912 points, T:1137, killed by a green mold 20:53 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Inf Ith Mal Una), 318 points, T:699, killed by a large mimic 20:55 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) had a staff of escape entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:15723 (1:43:58) 20:55 since all trees have beehives in them, are bears going to preferentially seek out trees? 20:56 no, there's no honey 20:56 hmm, will bees preferentially seek out actual beehives 20:56 like the rooms 20:56 I think honey badgers already do this? 20:56 will *bears seek out beehives 20:57 honey badgers will actively seek royal jelly 20:57 bees should probably also seek out beehives though 20:57 didnt have any plans for bears to do the same 20:58 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:16248 (1:47:11) 21:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 335 points, T:1169, killed by a bugbear 21:06 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:17369 (1:54:37) 21:07 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) had a quarterstaff entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:17805 (1:56:29) 21:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:918 (0:06:28) 21:15 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 4162 points, T:4784, killed by an Aleax of Ilmater 21:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1872 points, T:1817, quit 21:23 -!- Imanity has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:23 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.3.1] 21:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1370 (0:06:14) 21:30 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:21195 (2:19:34) 21:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1084 points, T:2008, killed by a wooden dart 21:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:3247 (1:16:46) 21:35 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 2075 points, T:3799, killed by a white unicorn 21:35 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:51859 (9:36:28) 21:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4381 (1:22:07) 21:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1152 (0:05:28) 21:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 2745 points, T:2363, killed by a ball of cold 21:47 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:22440 (2:36:12) 21:56 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Lolth, on T:23643 (2:45:10) 21:59 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 22:04 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:08 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 22:12 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:25 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 22:29 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:33 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a spear entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:16327 (3:32:51) 22:39 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1983 (0:11:16) 22:41 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven dagger entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:53465 (10:09:47) 22:41 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Inf Ith Mal Una), 2068 points, T:2263, killed by a warg 22:42 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 22:48 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:49 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:56 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2549 (0:14:59) 22:56 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6644 (1:22:38) 22:57 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 23:01 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 23:01 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:6848 (1:27:12) 23:02 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:07 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:07 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Tou Hob Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3178 (0:26:02) 23:12 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) murdered her faithful lizard, on T:55919 (10:40:31) 23:23 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 23:26 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:57185 (10:54:58) 23:26 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:57187 (10:55:02) 23:28 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:8474 (1:54:30) 23:30 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) refused to give up The Master Key of Thievery to the Master of Thieves, on T:57611 (10:59:25) 23:31 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:57614 (10:59:35) 23:33 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 23:35 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:38 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:48 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 23:52 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 23:55 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 11805 points, T:8376, killed by a dwarf lord, while praying 23:58 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:59 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]