00:17 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 15 bone shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:5389 (0:56:28) 00:19 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15714 (2:58:04) 00:20 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Tiamat, on T:72037 (16:01:13) 00:20 omgchromaticscales!!! 00:28 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:6042 (1:07:05) 00:31 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:16982 (3:09:25) 00:37 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:6597 (1:15:57) 00:45 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed key of master thievery", on T:18120 (3:23:14) 00:45 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 28586 points, T:18128, quit 00:53 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (genetic engineers), on T:8175 (1:32:15) 00:54 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 14 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:8389 (1:33:29) 00:59 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 18 wooden shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:8728 (1:38:02) 01:00 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2384 (0:14:38) 01:01 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Inf Ith Mal Una), 2633 points, T:2546, poisoned by a rotted kobold corpse, while praying 01:04 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:9284 (1:42:50) 01:13 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 01:17 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2623 (0:15:40) 01:28 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:11430 (2:06:45) 01:30 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a human watchman), on T:4482 (0:28:47) 01:30 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha), 4847 points, T:4489, killed by an elven watch captain, while attempting to cheat Death 01:43 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2830 (0:12:07) 01:59 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:5249 (0:27:59) 02:06 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a bolt of fire), on T:6149 (0:35:25) 02:06 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a bolt of fire), on T:6152 (0:35:29) 02:07 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha), 5140 points, T:6437, quit 03:18 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:38 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (beholders), on T:50037 (1 day, 5:51:43) 03:48 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:50 woah chromatic scales, nice bouquet! 05:16 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 05:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Orc Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:55343 (1 day, 7:06:22) 05:57 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 05:58 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.9.1 - https://znc.in] 06:01 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 06:05 -!- arahael has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 06:12 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:17 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 06:41 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:12 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:22 radical altar sac proposal: 07:22 - limit non-artifact gifts to 10 07:22 - limit artifact gifts to 3 07:22 - last gift: a stamped scroll with a message from your god 07:22 - let the first 2 wishes for artifacts be 100% successful 07:29 total chaos! aaaaah! 07:30 :-) 07:30 mobileuser I fixed the thing you saw when killing a straw golem with dichotomy 07:30 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commits/master/ 07:31 thank you for the announcement :-P 07:31 \o/ 07:31 \o/ 07:34 I think krm26 will like my proposal, will free him from endless altar camp sessions 07:34 your proposal? i accept! i'm the happiest girl in the world! 07:34 wait 07:34 what are we talking about 07:34 heheh 07:34 i thought k2 already had some clever camp-defeating schemes 07:35 to go along with scattering wishes throughout the dungeon 07:35 wasn't that focussed on making the gifts more useful? 07:36 i kinda like the idea of an artifact gift cooldown that can only be reset by killing some big cheese (one of the demon lords, medusa, croesus, etc) 07:36 and spreading wishes is fine for vanilla, I would hate it in evilhack 07:36 so once youve gotten one artifact, time to kill some other Name Thing 07:36 otherwise, just magical gear for you 07:36 that can also be used to your advantage if you really want magical gear and not another ogresmasher 07:37 additionally, can be a hard limit on the number of sac artifacts you get, depending on how the List of Things to Kill is made 07:37 it is probably reasonable to limit maximum sac artifacts to the most the loser alignment can get 07:38 loser alignment? 07:38 chaotic i think? alignment with fewest aligned artifacts 07:39 oh lol 07:40 honestly tho i dont mind spending all my time altar camping and then instantly drowning myself when im done, that is a fine endgame for me 07:40 slower than post163 but whatevs 07:40 time to cut off my hand 07:40 heh I know you don't, that remark was in jest 07:42 but: when I play hackem, I know I will get a limited amount of artifacts, most often useless 07:42 so I just get on with playing the game 07:42 don't feel the need for optimal play and collect everything I can get 07:42 which I find more fun really 07:43 i like having a "build goal" to work towards. perhaps because im not highly motivated to actually ascend 07:43 on the other side of the coin: when you can't get your optimal build, you need to get creative 07:43 i still have a problem with losing motivation in the endgame and inattentively faceplanting 07:44 yes, i like being forced to be creative too 07:44 but either way in the end i am "equipped to ascend/ritual", and that is where i still lose steam 07:45 i kinda want there to be one or two puzzle solving blocks on the way up from purgatory 07:45 mobileuser your idea is kinda inline with what i had in mind 07:45 interesting! 07:45 and i dont think you'd hate having wishes spread out 07:46 well, I'm afraid for catch-22 situations. need a wish to beat X, but have to beat X to get the wish 07:46 usually any wishes below medusa are kinda gravy for me anyway, i sometimes use none and usually when i do use them it is just dragonhiding stuff i didnt need to dragonhide 07:47 it is the occasional wish pre-castle that is often clutch 07:47 i havent done it yet myself, but you can always squeeze a wish out of the oracle if you need to 07:47 lol 07:47 but it's a good point 07:47 i think the magic8 ball wish should be done differently, now that someone actually does it sometimes 07:48 i think you should invoke the 8 ball to break it and get the wish 07:48 so, you can always throw it away for a wish 07:48 I usually make about 2 wishes when I get the castle wand 07:48 and they really matter to me at that point 07:48 my castle wishes are almost always unnecessary optimization wishes 07:49 but sometimes, yes, sometimes they are super-key 07:49 castle wow wouldnt go away 07:49 and that may be the difference between games with a few magic lamps and games without, i dont keep rigorous track 07:49 back in a bit 07:50 another approach is wand of wishing at castle, 0:1, but wands of wishing dont recharge with charging, but with a new scroll or whatever, that can be placed elsewhere. so you need the wand first, but then for another wish need the item to recharge it 07:50 so you could recharge wishing from 0:1 to 1:1 to 2:1 to 3:1 07:50 or something 07:54 the xnethack approach seems simpler, you can't recharge WoW but there are multiple guaranteed spots 07:55 the way i described means the wand is key, if it is broken/lost/wrested you dont get any more wishes 07:56 ah I see 07:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:16829 (2:56:24) 08:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided alhoons, on T:89878 (1 day, 16:25:26) 08:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:89879 (1 day, 16:34:24) 08:26 <@Loggers_IX> has anyone besides me ever done 8ball wish? 08:26 k2, weird getting "you aren't permitted to genocide vecna" since he is ALWAYS dead by the time you can get that message 08:27 i have only had reports from you loggers -- but you have done it multiple times, right? 08:27 <@Loggers_IX> I did it twice 08:27 <@Loggers_IX> never again 08:27 <@Loggers_IX> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204191497331810338/1313134515052347462/IMG_2461.jpg?ex=674f0751&is=674db5d1&hm=ffdcec6e8a46d6b2049c8d6230a13397730f4cc5f25555904a2aa070ebc9ee17& 08:28 <@Loggers_IX> it pushed one of my games like to 300k+ turns I think 08:29 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:34 "You shoot 5 orcish arrows" \o/ 08:35 the 4 master liches in vecna-2 went down quickly 08:37 you arent permitted to genocide an unique 08:37 <@Loggers_IX> what’s a good tourist main weapon? I feel like Grayswandir is probably up there 08:37 i dont see how that msg is weird 08:37 <@Loggers_IX> yeah it’s just weird that it says that after he’s dead 08:37 because vecna is already dead 08:38 it just seems like "haha the game doesnt know vecna is dead" 08:40 vanilla does the same thing yeah? 08:40 you could have killed vlad but when you try and geno V you'll get same feedback 08:41 i suppose. but. it seems really weird when geno liches is GATED by killing vecna 08:42 and now weird with Vlad too, since you have to kill Vlad to geno vampires 08:44 yeah 08:44 stop being weird k2! 08:44 get offa me! 08:45 daaaaaaaad! 08:45 man i can never remember the monster info command here 08:45 it's #quit 08:45 :P 08:45 you wish 08:45 not rid of me that easily 08:45 heh 08:45 cuz the ingame think doesnt give me demon lord alignment 08:48 try /? 08:48 then type name 08:48 that is in-game 08:48 i know that :-) 08:48 i mean the /?e whatever here 08:48 oh HERE\ 08:48 here here 08:48 @e?krm26 08:48 No such monster. 08:49 @e?baphomet 08:49 Baphomet (&) | Lvl: 54 | Diff: 30 | Spd: 18 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 75 | Gen: unique | AC: -4 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 claw physical, 2d6 cast clerical, 8d6 butt knockback | Align: -15 | flies, thick hide, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis, demon 08:49 align -15 08:49 in-game it doesnt give alignment 08:49 huh 08:49 @e?demogorgon 08:49 Demogorgon (&) | Lvl: 106 | Diff: 57 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 95 | Gen: unique | AC: -8 | Atk: 8d6 cast spell, 2d4 sting level drain, 2d6 tentacle disease, 2d6 tentacle disease | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis, demon 08:49 ok 08:49 it is the positive demon lord i have to keep alive 08:50 so i can kill baphomet 08:50 @e?lucifer 08:50 Lucifer (&) | Lvl: 110 | Diff: 66 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire shock poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 99 | Gen: unique | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 claw wither, 8d8 cast fire, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis, demon 08:50 just remember for 0.9.0 all demons will be unaligned (evil) 08:50 pinobot will show it as align: -128 i think 08:50 @e?wizard of yendor 08:50 Wizard of Yendor (@) | Lvl: 30 | Diff: 35 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison | Confer: fire poison | MR: 100 | Gen: unique | AC: -6 | Atk: 2d8 weapon physical, 2d12 claw amulet steal, 0d0 cast spell, 0d0 cast clerical | Align: -128 | omnivore, flies, breathless, regen, seeinvis, tele, nopoly, covetous, infravis 08:50 i cannot wait 08:50 yup 08:51 Sword of Kas will be useful against demons! cross-aligned 08:51 0.9 for channukah! 08:55 dammit baphomet is peaceful wtf man 08:56 ive been trained not to hit peacefuls by stupid knight games 09:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Baphomet, on T:90568 (1 day, 17:09:16) 09:02 arghhhh! magic trap uncursed all my gear 09:03 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:41079 (19:47:37) 09:03 uncursed gear is fine. blessed is the problem. 09:16 @Loggers_IX do you know if there is a map of the evilhack sanctum on the wiki? 09:16 I thought there was one, but I can't find it... 09:18 it's likely I was thinking of the wizard tower 09:25 doesnt cursed gear improve spellcasting failure? 09:26 no, blessed gear impairs spellcasting, cursed gear just compensates for that. 09:26 ahhh 09:26 ok 09:27 of course blessed enchant armor blesses your armor, so it's nice to have at least a few cursed items 09:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:23056 (4:08:59) 09:38 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 09:40 mobileuser: I think no re: sanctum map 09:40 thanks 09:40 I was about to say 'there's not one of the wizard tower either' but I literally made that one :P 09:40 =D 09:43 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 09:46 ok k2, saw it happen again. my confused shimmering dragon swallowed my vampire king pet, and when he was regurgitated it is now a vampire lord 09:47 king > "Backup swallows Secunda. Backup expels it. It turns into Secunda." > lord 09:47 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:47 so there is some kinda vampire poly thing going on 09:48 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:48 amazing 09:49 i havent found a bug in quite a while, so i'm due! love cornercases 09:49 damn vamp lost like 7 levels 09:49 it would maybe logical for shadow dragons? 09:50 well, but not for vamps, who are drain immune 09:50 maybe engulfing kills non-players by eroding levels and it isnt really a bug? i dunno! 09:51 in hackem vampires can drain other vampires. I know, that's just a hackem thing. 09:55 can someone remind me the broadsword recipe? 09:58 ah nevermind for some reason I forgot about the cookbook 09:58 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1211 points, T:1611, killed by a wand 09:58 @?e mephistopheles 09:58 No such monster. 09:59 @e?mephistopheles 09:59 Mephistopheles (&) | Lvl: 80 | Diff: 42 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: unique | AC: -6 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 3d4 claw disenchant, 3d4 cast fire, 3d4 cast spell, 0d6 passive fire | Align: 15 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis, demon 09:59 no trim huh 10:00 and broadsword + dagger = runesword Loggers_VIII! it's lighter! 10:00 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:13957 (2:20:59) 10:03 this is the first time I like it that those caged demons are shooting orcish arrows at me 10:03 90 orcish arrows of lightning, thank you 10:04 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1204 (0:04:56) 10:04 no fair! wand of undead turning should turn a fireproof lizard corpse into a fire-immune lizard, and when it dies again, it should still be fireproof :-) 10:04 I really think the hammer at gtown should be 100% 10:04 and if you feed a pet lizard a fire ant and it shivers, when it dies it should be fireproof! 10:04 hah krm26 10:04 he's right... 10:05 stupid spectre unfooproofing my liz 10:06 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1632 points, T:1494, killed by a bolt of fire 10:07 walking through a hallway, goblin walks around the corner and on the same move fires a bolt of fire that hits me, bounces and hits again putting me from ~80% HP to dead 10:09 this is the kind of thing tinklebear would see and proceed to ask a shitass question like "how can you be sure this wasn't an error on your part?" 10:11 goatrobin? 10:12 me and shadowrider are doing a round robin 10:12 you are both the goat :-) 10:13 he's the most stressful person to robin with because whenever you die you think "he wouldn't have died to that..." 10:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:55884 (1 day, 8:26:28) 10:14 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a dragonhide bag of holding, on T:15597 (2:35:00) 10:14 I've never done a robin before, it's great fun 10:17 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2072 (0:09:06) 10:19 how does a round robin apply to nethack? 10:21 shared account, swap off the player after a certain number of turns 10:21 in this case 3k 10:22 there's always a page :-P 10:22 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Robin 10:23 we did a vanilla run but I killed it when Orcus summoned yeenoghu+demo 10:23 figured that was enough of a warm up :P 10:24 weird 10:24 krm26 10:24 your vamp pet 10:25 n=2, it is a definite thing! 10:25 nothing is ever more certain than n=2 10:25 that is almost twice as certain as n=1 10:26 P = NP 10:26 :O 10:27 krm26 i'm assuming your vampire pet had a ring of slow digestion 10:27 lemme check 10:27 no sir 10:27 ive been too lazy to ring him 10:27 wouldnt be regurgitated otherwise 10:27 ah but he was 10:27 now remember for this to happen my dragon has to be confused 10:28 ok but when a monster with a digestion attack swallows another monther, boom dead 10:28 *monster 10:28 confused engulfing is different somehow 10:28 ? 10:28 i thought confusion let them do a quick taste and throw up 10:28 lemme see 10:29 wiki doesnt mention it 10:29 of course that means nothing 10:30 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 974 points, T:4376, killed by a white dragon 10:31 was your vamp wearing an amulet of LS? 10:33 hah what the hell you can't reverse genocide liches/vampires/beholders while their bosses are alive 10:33 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:18179 (2:53:38) 10:33 seems like something that should be allowed, though I see why no one had discovered that :) 10:33 noope k2, no amulet, no ring 10:34 just wearing some garbage armor -- orcish helm, elven shield, cloak of pro, speed boots 10:34 with a unihorn 10:34 "Thou shalt do no harm to vampires whilst I exist!" you've got me all wrong, man! 10:35 ah wait, "oLS wouldnt work for a vamp anyways. they arent alive 10:36 I'd suggest "got engulfed while shapeshifted" but evil vamp pets explicitly don't do that 10:36 clearly shapeshifting is involved though because of the message 10:37 like engulf, for some reason becomes bat, barfed back out, resumes vamp form 10:37 umbire my man belated happy birthday 10:38 my discord account got temporarily restricted so I had to resort to sending you a !tell in #hardfought 10:38 lmao thanks 10:38 what'd you do 10:38 my friend got hacked and sent me a scam server link. I joined the server as a joke and got in trouble for it :p 10:40 "as a joke" 10:40 yeah that has the same sort of vibe as "asking for a friend" doesn't it 10:40 i cant recreate it krm26 10:41 was your vamp in bat form when it was engulfed? 10:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) destroyed Charon, on T:92510 (1 day, 18:50:37) 10:43 if it was in bat/wolf/fog/whatever form it would make sense cuz they get lifesaved 10:45 no, normal form 10:48 ttyrec time! :D 10:48 two occurences 10:49 grep "It turns into Secunda." 10:50 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:50 so easy to replicate! confused level 38 fiercely loyal shimmering dragon pet adjacent to naked vampire king pet :-) 10:50 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5588 (0:35:19) 10:51 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:54 does anybody ever invoke vecna's body parts? 10:54 I did it once on astral and was disappointed with the results 10:54 it seems like playing with fire but you're a vampire 10:55 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:58 elven boots and dark elven boots shouldn't be ID'd upon wear, because they both do the same thing 10:59 $lastgame nightsorrow 11:00 I hate when people die in shops 11:00 !lastgame nightsorrow 11:00 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/N/Nightsorrow/evilhack/dumplog/1732919586.evil.html 11:01 krm26 you make me sad 11:01 why cant you report bugs that I can fix, like mobileuser and Loggers_VIII do? 11:01 hey didnt you just fix a report of mine yesterday 11:01 perhaps 11:01 sheer LUCK 11:01 :P 11:02 shall i save my game so you can clone it? i've got the two offending pets right on me 11:02 all you have to do is summon a bunch of umber hulks and wait for it to happen again 11:02 no its ok 11:02 (although my vamp is still not a king again yet) 11:03 i have enough info to recreate it myself 11:03 or you could clone my game and go find demonbane for me and then tell me where the f it is 11:03 i havent done the exact conditions you described, but i did have a shimmering dragon engulf my tame vamp king and he came back out as a vamp king 11:03 because it is bothering me 11:03 bored 11:03 was he created as a vamp king, or did he level to a vamp king? 11:03 anything you guys have that you feel's worth documenting? 11:04 my feet are a little cold 11:05 Umbire yeah 11:05 the new demon bosses arent here - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#New_monsters 11:05 and happy bday 11:06 thank 11:07 they're listed elsewhere in the article, should be semi-trivial 11:07 cool 11:07 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:7249 (0:50:57) 11:08 fountain wish :) 11:08 HAX 11:09 baph, lolth, mephisto, graz'zt 11:09 on the fence about whether you want I should mention tiamat 11:10 tiamat is new enough to mention 11:11 yup 11:12 okey doke 11:12 before graz'zt she goes 11:13 now just need notes for each, to the stuff I wrote for about 4 of these guys 11:13 tease-amat who never drops her scales unless you've already made retribution 11:24 -!- Grasshopper has joined #evilhack 11:26 and now annam 11:27 krm26 they dropped for bouquet last night 11:27 his giant samurai 11:27 that is a lie, because bouquet and i are twinsies, and i havent gotten my scales! 11:27 heh 11:28 I got them once 11:28 once on a non-tortle. I get them all the time as tortle 11:29 I think k2 is a proprietor of tortle-racism 11:29 giants can wear the scales but tortles can't? >:( 11:29 wrong shape 11:29 you can like uhhh 11:29 drape it 11:29 k2 is a shapist 11:29 and did 11:30 what about tortles with nutritional deficiencies whose scutes dont grow properly? 11:30 they can wear cloaks 11:30 should prob. add other new quest mons but later 11:34 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 11:43 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:04 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:20 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Orcus, on T:94114 (1 day, 20:28:27) 12:23 beep boop beep 12:23 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/b93ef857bc2f905b8b51c050f0fdd91ee42a8265 12:23 fixes https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack#L9 12:27 yay 12:30 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:31 hmm 12:31 i need to revisit that 12:33 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had a dwarvish spear entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:10349 (1:20:01) 12:39 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had a steel dwarvish spear entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:11124 (1:22:54) 12:45 ok there we go 12:45 right as rain 12:46 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had a short sword entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:12043 (1:29:32) 12:46 dammit! why do i report things! 12:47 heh 12:47 ok food time, bbl 13:12 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 13:21 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:13975 (1:40:41) 13:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:94838 (1 day, 21:30:50) 13:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:94840 (1 day, 21:30:55) 13:24 <@Loggers_IX> !lastgame splungetoo 13:24 @Loggers_IX: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/splungetoo/evilhack/dumplog/1733121064.evil.html 13:26 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:28 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu) stole 7111 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Ayancik's used armor dealership, on T:14503 (1:47:19) 13:29 oh no goatrobin 13:29 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:22835 (4:24:17) 13:34 <@Loggers_IX> overpriced ass magic lamp 13:37 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:38 can you really put a price on woodchuck figurines 13:42 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4083 points, T:3723, killed by a winter wolf cub 13:43 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:45 Dagul levelported and I searched from 1 to 30, no Dagul :-( 13:46 chance of current level plus 3, which means I'm going to have to give up on him 13:46 he probably has my demonbane 13:50 in his oilskin sack 13:57 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:15740 (1:59:57) 14:01 :( 14:02 im just irritated, even with detect treasure and going through the whole dungeon, to not be able to turn up demonbane 14:03 but that's pretty irrelevant? 14:03 it just bugs me not really knowing 14:03 heh 14:03 im just taking it on faith that there is a 100% artifact drop rate at level 26 14:05 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:05 that's correct 14:06 so you say 14:06 but maybe me getting a 2nd infidel ascension is threatening to you, with so very very few more infidel ascensions 14:06 "By the time you reach experience level 26, if a gift were to be generated, and non-quest artifacts are still available, the chance is 100% of receiving an artifact." 14:06 very very very very few more 14:06 lol 14:08 amazing, no one else has bothered to try for a second infidel 14:08 i have TRIED 14:08 i just havent succeeded 14:08 im sure i'll find some way of faceplanting this one too 14:08 since now im just running around the dungeon trying to find a way to make non-silver barding of reflection for this shadow dragon 14:09 which helps me in precisely 0 ways 14:09 are you wearing life saving? 14:09 no, im wearing reflection 14:09 (y) 14:09 go vorpal J :-P 14:10 yup, this could be their game! 14:10 i have had a game where i had an instant vorpal J generation + decapitation in a single unavoidable round 14:10 I remember... 14:10 so maybe i am not due for a 2nd 14:11 you went for the vecna hand I saw 14:11 like a 0.00001% chance that the game just randomly prints "you lose" :-) 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16832 (2:14:03) 14:11 yeah, well, the hand dropped, and at least it cant be deteriorated 14:11 i guess i coulda gone retribution 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] eri (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible adh123's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:3216 (0:23:44) 14:11 but then id have acid resistance 14:15 <@shadow_rider> where is the magic key in mines end? 14:15 depends on the level -- it will have engraving over it 14:16 <@shadow_rider> i have orc temple 14:16 far back of the maze, lower left corner somewhere i think 14:16 <@shadow_rider> ahh ok ok thanks 14:17 and grats on the best mines end! 14:17 <@shadow_rider> indeed it is the best one 14:17 <@shadow_rider> i remember the other time i got this end when i started playing evil i blindly ran into the safe room thats guarded by lava and burned everything 14:19 [hdf-us] [evil] eri (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 10678 points, T:4331, killed by a bolt of lightning 14:20 <@Loggers_IX> krm26: you know your god is out of artifacts if they give you a mundane item and it says “use my gift wisely” instead of the “valorously” message 14:20 <@Loggers_IX> the item will also always have an oprop iirc 14:21 <@Loggers_IX> that’s how it was last time it was relevant to me, anyway. take it with a grain of salt 14:23 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 210721 points, T:24169, petrified by a cockatrice 14:23 @e?newt 14:23 newt (:) | Lvl: 0 | Diff: 1 | Spd: 6 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 8 | Atk: 1d2 bite physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, swims, amphibious, passes-bars 14:26 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:30 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:32 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 14:33 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:43 @e?gelatinous cube 14:43 gelatinous cube (b) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 8 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison acid petrification | Confer: fire cold sleep shock | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 8 | Atk: 2d4 touch paralyze, 1d4 engulf wrap, 1d4 passive paralyze | Align: 0 | genocidable, omnivore, mindless, vegan 14:43 why do these fuckers resist everythingggg 14:43 because they are jello 14:44 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:20506 (2:45:58) 14:44 I'm pretty sure jelly doesn't resist everything (eg, being eaten nom nom) 14:44 <@shadow_rider> amulet :| 14:45 well the good news is that I actually had an un-ID'd amulet of reflection, the bad news is also that I had an un-ID'd amulet of reflection so I should have grabbed the tool in hopes of marker 14:45 only had to cheat once in soko at least 14:45 <@shadow_rider> lowkey always taking the tool there even with no reflection 14:45 <@shadow_rider> marker is just too op and rare 14:46 yeah the more I'm thinking about it the more I realize I should've thought about it more 14:46 I had some really traumatic black dragon memories I think 14:46 <@shadow_rider> tru the more you think the more you think 14:47 I really need to get into the habit of thinking while playing nh 14:47 <@shadow_rider> nethack maybe evilhack eh no need 14:47 are you the kind of guy who would be ok with me throwing all our rings down a sink 14:47 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:20900 (2:49:29) 14:47 <@shadow_rider> what do you think 14:48 yeah I knew the answer before the question 14:50 ok I have to go but I played like 2.5k so you can go @shadow_rider 14:50 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:50 <@shadow_rider> ok 14:50 <@shadow_rider> i approve of wasting fire charges to write useless message 14:51 <@Loggers_IX> it uses the same amount of charges as if you decline 14:52 <@Loggers_IX> (engrave testing) 14:52 <@shadow_rider> oh i confused number of characters affecting turns vs charges 15:00 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:05 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:05 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:15 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:17 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:32 ah F the stupid alhoon has a wand of striking 15:36 dumb alhoon 15:36 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:25684 (3:38:11) 15:36 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25755 (3:38:19) 15:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 oilskin toque", on T:57326 (1 day, 9:18:38) 15:39 take that stupidly clever alhoon 15:43 \o/ 15:46 well he's not dead yet :-P 15:47 had to go back to stash first 16:03 now he is 16:11 vecna his ass 16:13 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1141 (0:07:05) 16:19 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Mal Una) murdered Hecubus, his faithful lesser homunculus, on T:1858 (0:13:22) 16:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:57922 (1 day, 9:55:49) 16:31 hand :-( 16:31 alhoons better grab their butts 16:31 heheh 16:31 getting the vecna body part you dont want just means retribution, so yay! 16:31 i shoulda done retribution instead of using the hand, just got carried away 16:31 was hoping for the eye to free up my magic lamp 16:32 I am an orc wearing bone chain mail 16:32 (and  I don't want to spend a day altar camping) 16:33 i dont understand 16:33 -!- cbus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Orc Fem Cha) genocided alhoons, on T:57944 (1 day, 9:59:47) 16:35 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu) refused to give up The Platinum Yendorian Express Card to Twoflower, on T:25897 (3:41:27) 16:36 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 16:36 eat shit twoflower 16:38 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 16:39 well, you did steal that magic lamp 16:39 no wonder he didn't trust you with the PYEC :@ 16:42 ooh green dragon 16:42 scales plz 16:42 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:42 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 16:43 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Nightsorrow's ghost, the former Joshu, on T:26434 (3:49:00) 16:43 e - a set of green dragon scales noice 16:46 y - a marker 16:46 MUHAHAH 16:48 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 16:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Orc Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:58088 (1 day, 10:08:32) 16:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Orc Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:58089 (1 day, 10:08:42) 16:49 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 16:54 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:00 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Mal Una) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5259 (0:49:10) 17:03 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Mal Una), 10095 points, T:5327, killed by a champion of Odin 17:04 check this out - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/0ba97b77171e4bc42781f61c94cf0b7f75868cc6 17:05 cool! flollop? 17:06 oh that's sick 17:06 isn't flolloping what those mattresses in the hitch hiker's guide do? 17:06 yup 17:06 heh 17:07 the shambling horror flollops! 17:07 \o/ 17:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:98641 (1 day, 23:12:50) 17:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided black dragons, on T:98642 (1 day, 23:12:53) 17:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided gray dragons, on T:98642 (1 day, 23:12:55) 17:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided orange dragons, on T:98643 (1 day, 23:14:21) 17:18 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:19 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided umber hulks, on T:98655 (1 day, 23:16:23) 17:21 i love the pokedex and am glad to see it getting more important info! as well as info on flollopiness 17:24 that's the most important bit 17:24 flollopiness 17:24 oh hey, new obj property 17:33 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:28372 (4:14:47) 17:33 reflection dance ftw 17:34 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:52 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:75817 (17:16:04) 17:53 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:75819 (17:16:15) 17:57 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided vampire mages, on T:76121 (17:21:01) 18:03 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 18:11 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:11 -!- jonadab has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:21 -!- jonadab has joined #evilhack 18:24 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1794 (0:12:46) 18:27 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 18:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:33566 (7:17:48) 18:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:33661 (7:20:36) 18:35 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 18:35 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:42 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Inf Ith Mal Una), 5250 points, T:4438, killed by a raven 18:45 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:76921 (17:45:15) 18:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 rustproof helm of brilliance of decay", on T:33828 (7:40:07) 18:53 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 200 points, T:1567, killed by a small mimic 19:15 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a rothe), on T:4446 (0:22:10) 19:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 920 points, T:2576, killed by a magic missile, while sleeping 19:17 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "sdflkj", on T:4850 (0:23:55) 19:18 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) had a knife entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:5088 (0:25:33) 19:20 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:5664 (0:26:41) 19:27 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6737 (0:33:48) 19:35 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a bolt of fire), on T:7718 (0:41:57) 19:41 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha), 9740 points, T:8692, killed by Zlaw; the shopkeeper, while attempting to cheat Death 19:46 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a pair of kicking boots entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:77721 (18:05:03) 19:53 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:58 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2441 (0:12:28) 20:06 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "sdflkj", on T:4195 (0:20:39) 20:06 -!- Loveaabb has joined #evilhack 20:12 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:42306 (20:24:33) 20:13 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:42311 (20:25:43) 20:15 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:42314 (20:27:01) 20:22 -!- cbus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 256751 points, T:36657, killed by a green dragon 20:30 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:37 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 8192 points, T:7314, killed by a Woodland-elf 20:48 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2655 (0:10:39) 20:49 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) had a large shield entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:3206 (0:12:07) 20:51 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.3.1] 21:19 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:10713 (0:42:23) 21:20 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) had a mithril dwarvish spear entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:10718 (0:42:34) 21:26 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:11750 (0:48:37) 21:26 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:11867 (0:48:59) 21:43 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14205 (1:06:04) 22:06 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:10 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) had a pair of iron gauntlets entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:17908 (1:33:28) 22:13 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:18217 (1:36:22) 22:26 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 22:54 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:25387 (2:16:35) 23:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) consumed animal products (fortune cookie) for the first time, on T:3551 (1:48:24) 23:39 y'known, doing that extinctionist run last month taught me to no fear any Liches. Evilhack is reminding me why they need to be genocided though! 23:47 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) had a helmet entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:32022 (3:10:23) 23:52 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by Ixoth), on T:32399 (3:15:01) 23:52 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by Ixoth), on T:32405 (3:15:10) 23:52 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) killed the invisible Ixoth, on T:32411 (3:15:21) 23:53 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:32437 (3:15:35) 23:54 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) completed his quest without incident, on T:32652 (3:17:25) 23:55 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 559 points, T:1036, killed by an Angel of Shan Lai Ching 23:55 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:81103 (19:10:28)