02:21 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:46 [hdf-au] [evil] Spear (Cav Dwa Mal Neu), 524 points, T:973, killed by a large spider 04:29 [hdf-au] [evil] Spear (Cav Dwa Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5853 (0:43:22) 05:02 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:16 [hdf-au] [evil] Spear (Cav Dwa Mal Neu), 4908 points, T:7171, killed by a piranha 07:02 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:18 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:20 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 08:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Hea Hob Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:9036 (1:39:22) 08:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a staff of war entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:9861 (1:50:17) 08:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Hea Hob Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:10296 (1:59:13) 09:09 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 09:09 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Changing host] 09:09 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 09:31 weeee 09:32 weeee? 09:33 wii 09:33 oui oui 09:33 \o/ 09:33 octopi will be ; in evilhack 09:34 not sure what color 09:34 orange of course 09:34 or purple 09:34 hm that's nice too 09:34 make them steal your items and stuff :) 09:35 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/1615/source 09:35 i didnt take that pic but i was on the dive 09:35 man octopi are so cool 09:35 they are *smart* 09:36 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/1586 <--- buddy and me caught that one 09:36 took us over 30 min to catch it 09:36 it did all sorts of evasive moves 09:36 grabbing shells to cover up holes it went into, etc 09:36 haha awesome 09:37 FYI we didnt catch it just for sport, we ate it 09:37 was it good 09:37 oh yeah 09:37 that and some parrot fish we speared 09:37 nice 09:37 that pic is on shark's cove in north shore (hawaii) 09:38 I've never scuba dived or anything. I'd like to at some point 09:38 it was a lot of fun, saw some really cool stuff 09:39 i stopped logging dives after 150 or so 09:39 but, that last time I dove was in 2007 :( 09:39 :( 09:40 got my wife into it (in this pic we were still just dating) https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/1726 09:40 no wait, this was *right after* we got married 09:40 but she started learning when we were dating 09:41 we'll do it again with mini-me someday 09:42 catch another octopus to eat :) 09:42 heh 09:42 fish are easier 09:42 fish are dumb 09:43 octos are smarter than dogs 09:43 some cuttlefish too 09:44 I think I heard once that octopi can be as smart as a toddler, but that might be one of those made up factoids people repeat cause it sounds fun 09:45 item-stealing non-genocidable octopus on the plane of water 09:45 mermaids 2.0 09:45 \o/ 09:45 named CARL 09:45 \o/ 09:46 i'm gonna make a unique mermaid boss named ariel that if playername == mobileuser, can one-shot kill you 09:46 Carliel 09:46 rofl 09:47 not like that'd be too much of a problem for him :P 09:49 heheh 10:10 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:12 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:22 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1351 (0:07:16) 10:58 The correct plural of octopus is octopuses or octopodes, not octopi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopus?useskin=vector#Etymology_and_pluralisation 10:59 nah 10:59 technically maybe but really I don’t want to believe it 11:00 that's dumb 11:01 octopodedes 11:01 octopi is such a fun whimsical word. to disgrace the distinguished family octopoda with an inferior plural such as octopuses or octopodes is blasphemy 11:01 sir, this is a wendy's? we dont do proper grammar here 11:03 it should really be octopi tho 11:03 octopuses sounds dumb 11:03 they aren't cats 11:04 i had my daughter convinced that the plural of moose was 'meese' when she was little 11:04 octopodes then 11:05 which is the ancient greek plural 11:06 no 11:06 goose -> geese moose -> meese perfectly valid 11:07 dumb mechanic anyway that u need to look it up 11:08 same as shoop -> sheep 11:15 shoop hahaha 11:18 did you see @loggersviii riding that shoop? so crazy 11:34 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:34 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 11:49 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 11:49 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Changing host] 11:49 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 12:10 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 12:11 [hdf-us] [evil] SludgeGunkman (Con Dro Fem Cha), 0 points, T:73, killed by a grid bug, while dragging an iron ball 12:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:10336 (1:09:08) 12:14 wait no I forgot how this works I wanted the toooolllll 12:19 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:20 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:28 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 12:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1725 (0:23:30) 12:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3304 points, T:2829, killed by a hill orc 12:44 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 13:02 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/449dfe80b865...8e3ac530bf1d 13:02 [EvilHack] k21971 8e3ac53 - Proper encyclopedia entries/lookup for the artifact rings. 13:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Hea Hob Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:20178 (4:02:00) 13:16 canceling a magic lamp will just uncurse it, right? 13:19 I can wiztest 13:19 You see here an uncursed magic lamp. 13:19 heh. thanks! that would suck huh? 13:19 but this is latest master 13:19 nice thanks! 13:19 (that included the commit from 17min ago) :) 13:20 appreciate it :) 13:20 np! 13:20 might as well put my wizmode to use :) 13:21 i need to get evil installed locally... It's been on the to-do list for so long! 13:21 running linux, so it should be _that_ hard to build 13:22 other than the fact that i don't really know what i'm doing... 13:22 meant to say shouldn't* 13:24 want my build script? 13:24 probably will just make it more complex :P 13:24 though 13:24 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:29 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Changing host] 13:29 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:29 i actually gotta do some work on this box first. Might wipe in clean actually, but after that? Yes, i would definitely love yuor script or anything that will help get it running! 13:30 I feel like i attempted once and got stuck at some step. It was a while back though 13:31 but i'm always running either the latest version of Mint or Ubuntu, and actually this PC still has win 11 installed on it. Is there a windows binary I can just run and go into wizmode? 13:31 That would be hilarious if my only use for windows was to run nethack... 13:40 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:11561 (1:44:41) 13:41 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack#installation 13:42 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 14700 points, T:12012, killed by an elven watch captain 13:42 damn I think my balrog pet got levelported :( 13:43 he just needed some space 13:43 you've been a bit smothering 13:43 it's gonna be a bit nasty if I have to fight him, I gave him a mithril dwarvish mattock 13:43 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a pair of wooden gauntlets entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:46735 (12:58:02) 13:43 cmon chih 13:44 i always forget that figurine 13:44 i have so many damn pairs of good gloves. i just want dragonbane 13:44 "gonna use it once i get a magic whistle" -> never use it 13:44 it's a great advantage early 13:44 and yeah I only bothered cuz I found a magic whistle 13:44 they're way too slow otherwise 13:44 i have a stack of blessed eucalptus because i still haven't found a whistle 13:44 name him killstealer 13:44 or xpstealer 13:45 something to show that he takes away your xp 13:45 +5 wooden gauntlets : puke : 13:45 i have gauntlets of dexterity, protection, dragonhide, power, etc. etc. i don't need wooden crap i need dbane so i can throw it in the forge 13:46 gonn have to wish 13:46 I always name him dagul 13:46 gauntlets of purity??? 13:46 yeah that's what i want 13:46 you have some you can lend me? 13:46 do they even give acid resistance? 13:46 no 13:46 no they don't even give acid resistance 13:46 booo 13:46 but they are better than dbane 13:47 no acid resistance 13:47 he found the one flaw 13:47 yes. correct 13:47 you gotta figure that out 13:47 if you don't care about losing the AC from dragonbane, anyway. so sometimes on tortles I like dbane more 13:47 AND worse ac??? 13:47 it definitely depends...i freaking had my disitengrated while fighting lucifer 13:48 no boulder fort? 13:48 the thing is i always play weaponless 13:48 monk 13:48 suriken 13:48 hm. maybe I will do the quest and try and sleep kaen 13:48 attack spells 13:48 so i am using them for martial arts the silver on demons etc 13:48 yeah i do all that too 13:48 and i ascended plenty of monks before the purity gloves existed 13:49 can i enjoy them? they are still a novelty to me lol 13:49 are they good? 13:49 no 13:49 they don't even have acid resistance 13:49 lmao 13:49 you're right 13:49 man it definitely depends 13:49 what? gauntlets of purity are way better than dragonbane 13:49 exactly 13:49 are they "good" ? 13:49 every game is different 13:49 you get death resistance, spell power regeneration, and reflection 13:49 that's the thing 13:50 i used to always wish for eota 13:50 you can't cast your attack spells with no pw... 13:50 they're easily better than dragonbane for a monk, because they're silver 13:50 now you wish for grayswandir? 13:50 yeah 13:50 pretty much 13:50 or just play lawful monks 13:50 hehe 13:50 that too 13:51 i used to play neutral mostly for the artifacts 13:51 pyec/eota etc. 13:51 but it doesn't seem like god wants to give me dbane so i might have to wish for both 13:51 havne't done castle yet so don't know wand sitch 13:52 you gotta be lvl 26 to gurantee artifact gifts 13:52 oh that's right 13:52 very high imo 13:52 i forgot level matters 13:52 so i'll just wait 13:52 til i level up 13:52 i always forget that. thnks! 13:52 can't eat wraiths cuz meat 13:52 i was wondering why i was getting garbage 13:52 that sucks 13:52 but i'm only 14 13:52 and i got to 14 from killing things lol 13:53 huh? i eat wraiths 13:53 i'm not a good monk... 13:53 dang 13:53 i eat everything 13:53 I've eaten so many monsters as this monk :P 13:53 did u have to fight ur quest leader 13:53 just gonna kill po 13:53 po? 13:53 yeah i always kill him 13:53 master po 13:53 monk leader is called master po in evil 13:53 is the quest leader 13:54 it takes a bunch of high quality corpses to get back in good standing after doing that... 13:54 https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-gif-24481897 13:54 mollify 13:54 i always do it though. thanks for reminding me i have to do it in my game too 13:54 lol shrigis 13:54 i try to do it early so i can get back to normal and pray etc. 13:55 that's po telling you you can't have the quest artifact 13:55 haha 13:55 i have a freaking potion shortage in my game 13:55 I have a billion potions and no bags 13:55 3.7 monk or evilhack monk, which is stronger? 13:56 evilhack and it's not close at ALL 13:56 fr? 13:56 evilhack monks have some of the most consistently good DPS of any role, and they basically never miss 13:56 you get an extra turn at grand master in evil 13:56 evil is way more fun 13:57 also you can break boulders with F 13:57 statues too 13:57 they get two extra attacks (punch and kick), you get enchantment bonuses on your attacks from gloves/boots, and you get at least two melee attacks every turn (I think the kick is rng based) 13:58 my biggest complaint (and it's not an evil thing) is the monk quest totally blows 13:58 they just copied stuff from the priest quest but then there's no loot! 13:58 that does sound better than 3.7 with the rng 2nd hand 13:58 at least the priest quest has that graveyard with all the chests 13:58 a late-game monk wearing silver boots and gloves against a silver-hater is some of the highest DPS in the game 13:58 xnh changes the quest up a little at least 13:59 yeah the monk quest is lame 13:59 I like kaen but that's it 13:59 yeah, but for how hard kaen IS? Thre should be some reward lol 13:59 one time in vanilla i found a WoW and all this loot in the quest it was so weird 13:59 and never happened again 14:00 true, monks should get some special loot or something 14:00 well, in 3.7 they get some spinach on the home level :P 14:00 or just comparable to the other quests.. there's like nothing in that whole branch 14:00 and the levels are boring 14:01 the mid level is the same as the rogue quest too 14:01 no 14:01 it has extra doors 14:01 and the start level is the same as the priest level 14:02 lmao you are right the monk version has one more door 14:02 it's pathetic... they took the role from slash i think but then didn't change it or add anything. it was added in a hurry it seems 14:03 fuck. no wish from the lamp. i was gonna try to wish for dragonbane 14:03 you freed me! fuck off 14:03 i'm gonna kill him 14:03 even the goal level is the same as the priest quest 14:03 lame 14:03 haha it is isn't it 14:04 vanilla should really change that at some point 14:10 but yeah the PW regen thing from those gloves is clutch... Like i said in vanilla, i usually wish for eota because you only have to carry it to get the PW effects 14:11 I really like there's pw regen available for non-wizs who don't wanna wish for the eota 14:11 it makes it so you can stack spells like haste and reflection too... 14:11 *that there's 14:11 logers_viii: ME TOO!!! 14:11 loggers8 14:11 * 14:11 lol 14:11 bah 14:12 i totally agree tho 14:12 they should add pw regen to vanilla 14:13 well eota has it but you have to be neutral and arti-wish (unless you're wizard obviously) 14:13 a lot of people are against wishing for quest artifacts in general 14:13 but it's pretty much impossible to cast spells regularly as a non-wiz without 14:14 it would be neat if one of the DSMs gave pw regen but I can't think of any that would be good for that thematically 14:14 ...besides gray, which obviously can't have it :P 14:14 gray (: 14:14 i said it first 14:15 I thought it first 14:15 lie 14:15 source: trust 14:15 you don't think 14:15 real. I'm but a bot in this matrix 14:16 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204191497331810338/1228045981988163594/bgf8f8f8-flat750x075f-pad750x1000f8f8f8.png?ex=662a9df2&is=661828f2&hm=f8a16437a5c3ac49f14a5d7aac17a43381548dc161d10d79400b14ed95263e22& 14:16 hahaha 14:17 agh. these xorns and elementals hit too hard. I should leave 14:18 'the wolf jumps, easily evading your clumsy kick' hey waddahell I have grandmaster in martial arts 14:18 yeah they will surround you 14:18 oh yippeeee a random priest playermon had a BoH 14:18 i usually stay on the stairs for that big open level and go back up to heal 14:18 wait no it's just a sack 14:19 also watch out for trap doors that go down to his lair 14:19 that's why giants are fun. don't have to worry about that crap 14:20 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:21 i just went to look at his game, and gone? 14:21 were they playing on US? 14:23 just stopped playing 14:24 imagine if high level pmons sometimes had the QAs for their roles haha 14:24 that'd be crazy 14:26 that’s a funny idea 14:36 oh god... be careful what you wish for 14:36 lol 14:38 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:40 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided black dragons, on T:47169 (13:20:06) 14:50 i like to kill all the electic eels etc. that are around the castle?\ 14:50 i don't care what kinda shape i'm in... lI get rid of those thigns so i never have to worry about them again 14:51 i had an electric eel destroy the castle wand for me on one of my very first ascensions. might have bgeen the first. i don't even know how it happened or that they could do that 14:51 buti didn't have it in bag 14:52 this was vanilla a few years back 14:52 can they really do that or did i dream it? 14:52 Any wand in open inventory can be destroyed by electric attacks, it's one of the few ways grid bugs can be dangerous 14:52 so now i keep a lot of thigns just bagged with those shocking spheres etc?? krm26 keeps everything bagged 14:53 ah ok thanks pinkbeast! 14:53 hope things are good! 14:54 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:56 grid bugs can’t destroy inventory items cuz they’re too low level, even though their attack is shock damage 14:58 i THINK I already geno'd shocking spheres this game.. i usually write it down 14:58 their attack is 0d1 so if they gain a level they can 14:58 but is there any way to get a list without dying? 14:59 #genocided 14:59 Loggers: That must be new - I remember someone (raisse?) on rgrn reporting it happened to their starting wizard back in the day. 14:59 ("new" in this context means "after about 1997" :-) 14:59 it can happen if they gain a level somehow, maybe that happened 15:00 Conflict or a very unfortunate pet can get them a level 15:01 omg thank you! 15:01 #genocided !! 15:01 i'll never waste a geno scroll again 15:02 no problem 15:05 pinning that for wiki later today 15:05 that a vanilla thing or no 15:06 Unless I'm missing something, couldn't the ordinary operation of adj_lev (makemon.c line 1755) give you a level 1 grid bug quite easily? 15:07 nope, their default level is usually 0 15:07 Ok... why not? 15:07 couldn't tell you the how and why of that but they've always generated with that level 15:09 isn't the max level a monster can normally generate with 1.5*base level? 15:09 1.5*0=0 15:09 Aha, good catch 15:10 sounds about right 15:11 that was my inclination tbh but I hadn't checked the relevant code to be sure 15:15 i forgot to lock magic chest 15:15 entire fucking thing got looted i'm assuming while i was raiding castle 15:15 i don't know where the shit went though? 15:15 may something ate it? 15:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a club entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:22236 (5:05:06) 15:16 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed +5 grayswandir", on T:50007 (13:55:06) 15:16 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +5 dragonbane", on T:50009 (13:55:21) 15:17 all my spellbooks and potions and what not 15:18 this is gonna be a long game... It was a beautiful stash. the best! 15:19 and there was probably a hammer in there, and instead i have to go find one 15:19