00:01 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:28036 (9:24:49) 00:10 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed Lolth, on T:28353 (9:33:47) 00:20 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of restore ability", on T:28594 (9:44:10) 00:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "fixed magic marker", on T:24049 (11:04:49) 01:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Sam Gia Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:24232 (11:10:43) 01:04 @LoggersVIII I'm hoping to learn the TCG as well 01:04 also way late to ask the right people for this but curse items is the same against Infidels as against any other role, right? 02:18 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) had a steel helmet entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:29929 (10:25:34) 02:20 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:30014 (10:27:28) 02:22 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:30060 (10:29:31) 02:29 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:30635 (10:33:59) 02:42 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:31585 (10:46:45) 02:43 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class e, on T:31593 (10:48:11) 02:58 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Cen Fem Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9109 (2:01:01) 03:09 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Cen Fem Una) had a mithril dagger entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:9795 (2:11:40) 03:20 -!- lordDonut has joined #evilhack 03:21 Difficulty 15, speed 15, base level 13, base AC 7, magic saving throw 50 03:21 Resists shock 03:21 Can fly, walk on water. 03:21 Has ultravision. 03:21 Can see invisibl 03:21 Attacks: 4d5 bite sticky, 4d7 sting shock, 4d4 sting hallucination, 2d8 touch shock, 3d8 gaze fire 03:21 Yowza that is some damage. Barely escaped the fire damage! Man! It whacked me. 03:22 It is now blocking the stairs to up, so I can progress my game. 03:23 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:23 afraid if I go upstairs it will sticky me and then just blast me 03:24 no major fire resistance obtained, intrinsically, or with ring 03:24 I do have shock resistance. 03:28 3d8 gaze fire, so you could blindfold yourself? 03:28 I was wondering.   Really? 03:28 Seemed to good to be true. 03:29 absolutely anything labeled gaz can be avoided via blinding 03:29 ^gaze 03:29 it's like a pyrolisk 03:30 @e?pyrolisk 03:30 pyrolisk (c) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 6 | Res: fire poison | Confer: fire poison | MR: 30 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 6 | Atk: 2d6 gaze fire, 1d6 bite physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, omnivore, oviparous, infravis 03:31 Still did not know you could even avoid their gaze that way too. 03:31 I always see them and freak out for equipment damage. 03:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Hea Elf Mal Neu) had a spellbook of cure blindness given to him by Hermes, on T:46160 (13:15:52) 03:32 did not realize it depended on me seeing it. thoguht it would happen regardless 03:32 funny 03:32 this old fart learned somethin' new 03:33 been palyin' fer nearly 40 years 03:34 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Cen Fem Una) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:10561 (2:35:31) 03:34 fun.  "Crisis" averted.  thanks, mobileuser 03:38 ah excellent! 03:38 ab mobileuser 03:38 ab! 03:47 -!- lordDonut has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:00 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Cen Fem Una) had a cloth armor entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:12272 (3:01:47) 04:03 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Cen Fem Una) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:12353 (3:04:20) 04:05 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Cen Fem Una) had a cloak of invisibility entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:12419 (3:06:47) 04:16 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 04:43 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Cen Fem Una) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:13841 (3:45:08) 04:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Hea Elf Mal Neu) had a leather armor entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:51105 (14:35:35) 05:08 I suddenly wonder: if you #tip a trapped chest, does the trap still activate? 05:10 wiki doesn't say 05:10 do you know Umbire? 05:11 No clue 05:11 Can wiztest for you rq 05:13 hmm, can't set poisoned and unlocked 05:13 maybe in the other order... 05:13 nope 05:13 we'll just do a poisoned chest and see if it gens unlocked 05:16 I'm not even sure if it's possible to tip a container you don't know the contents of 05:16 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204191497331810338/1222836703245504572/image.png?ex=6617aa6d&is=6605356d&hm=f13145fbc09fa38c12a04a5627c8bcd75de0d5d8b36a00ea9bd6675e59fc1ec1& 05:16 it is 05:16 you don't have to know the contents 05:16 and as indicated traps still trigger 05:16 ah, thanks for that! 05:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Hea Elf Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:52339 (15:01:34) 05:18 all you need to tip is an eligible container and have a destination 05:18 can't tip a carried container on the floor if you're on a square with containers, K2 is probably aware though 05:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1207 (0:47:36) 05:38 magic marker in the chest 05:39 the goblin king chest, not the trapped one :-) 05:39 👍 06:45 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:46 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 07:02 -!- stenno has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.1.1] 07:13 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 07:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had a small shield entrusted to her by Venus, on T:42308 (10:50:40) 07:57 cuz when you think ranger, you think shield 08:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:43074 (10:55:39) 08:16 nice 08:20 half-nice 08:25 I don't think ranger has broadsword skill? 08:25 they do 08:25 skilled 08:25 vs shortsword basic 08:25 I just updated the wiki about it 08:25 Evil Rangers get the skill and can reach Skilled in it 08:26 evil rangers? 08:26 ah, then yes, half-nice for now 08:26 oh evilhack duh 08:26 E-VEEL 08:26 EVIL! 08:26 thought you were making a weird alignment statement for some reason :-) 08:26 lol 08:26 where is the meme K2 08:27 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci3rYOH8t3A 08:27 heh, I meant the hecubus one 08:27 i can only see scorpius as the villain from farscape 08:28 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2637/source 08:29 \o/ 08:29 weee 08:29 Impolite! 08:29 and evil! 08:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed Scorpius, on T:44474 (11:27:21) 08:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:44475 (11:27:26) 08:33 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 08:37 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) destroyed the invisible mightyquinn's ghost, the former Investigator, on T:17998 (3:18:06) 08:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:45016 (11:38:19) 09:45 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) destroyed Arcusmagus' ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:20123 (4:06:16) 09:52 lol wtf 09:52 I am getting ambushed by white unicorns 09:52 number 3 just appeared on the same level 09:52 fing nasty unicorns 09:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:4440 (2:35:18) 09:57 smart move by Gollum, stealing the towel I was using to see him. But he should have run away at that point. 10:03 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Hea Elf Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class D, on T:57105 (17:16:44) 10:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had a leather cloak entrusted to her by Venus, on T:50136 (13:07:18) 10:13 blurgh 10:13 ^ this 10:13 for other reasons 10:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had a knife entrusted to her by Venus, on T:51256 (13:35:16) 11:06 -!- mode/Hecubus [+Ziw] by Hecubus 11:06 -!- mercury.libera.chat changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.8.3 available for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack ¤ https://redd.it/16izu25 11:06 -!- mode/#evilhack [+v Hecubus] by ChanServ 11:17 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:45 damn where be my sweet sweet ludios 11:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Hea Elf Mal Neu) had a leather armor entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:59085 (18:31:20) 12:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Hea Elf Mal Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:59516 (18:48:47) 12:22 werebane! \o/ 12:24 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:31961 (11:04:19) 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) averted death (killed by Kas), on T:32339 (11:16:06) 12:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Hea Elf Mal Neu) had a copper elven dagger entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:60438 (19:10:39) 12:39 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:32401 (11:18:40) 12:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:57814 (15:35:20) 12:44 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) destroyed splungetoo's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:25721 (5:08:56) 12:48 argggh nooo no ludios 12:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Hea Elf Mal Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:60920 (19:20:43) 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:59479 (15:53:16) 12:59 now we're cooking with gas 13:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:61040 (16:09:24) 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:33144 (11:37:24) 13:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had a ring mail entrusted to her by Venus, on T:61923 (16:15:17) 13:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had a leather cloak entrusted to her by Venus, on T:62673 (16:21:59) 13:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Hea Elf Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a shambling horror), on T:62748 (20:02:09) 13:42 \o/ 13:45 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:34248 (12:05:39) 14:07 krm26 yeah there's still a very small chance the portal to ludios may not appear 14:08 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 14:20 i finally found it -- i swear i spent like 400 turns on that particular level waiting for the vault message, but magic mapping tells no lies 14:30 k2: potions and scrolls that a gelcube has engulfed should not boil/burst into flame 14:30 they aren't in inventory, they are inside its relaxing gelatinous goo 14:31 i suppose the game doesnt see it that way. huh 14:33 heh, gel cube has an ice box inside it. inside the ice box was a gel cube 14:38 whoa 14:45 you know, gear choices would actually be a lot more interesting if dragon scale primary/secondry extrinsics were swapped 14:46 i guess with the exception of the flying cloak :-) 14:49 :P 14:50 the next time i get an early wish im gonna wish for celestial dragon scales 14:55 I did in my last ascension! 14:55 was nice to have the amulet slot for life saving 15:18 those scales seem to have becomes a 'best kept secret' kind of item 15:18 *become 15:19 yet another white unicorn... are they replacing agents and champions or something 15:22 you are the unicorn god. no matter where you go, they are drawn to you 15:24 urgh ogre showing up just as a bunch of gnolls are attacking 15:25 "when you see an ogre in the early game, you just turn around!" (epic npc man) 15:30 hahah 15:35 does dragonscaled dragonhide studded leather end up being the same as dragonscaled normal studded leather, but heavier? 15:35 i.e. same ac, heavier weight 15:35 no 15:35 keeps its ac advantage? 15:36 yeah dragonscaling always gives a flat +5 AC 15:39 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Cen Fem Una) made her first wish - "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:15355 (4:32:26) 15:40 ah, the first champion of Hermes 15:41 i have become so judgy about wishes, i have to sit on my hands when a wish pops up here 15:42 how about this one form yesterday: 15:42 23:53 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed fixed rings of fire resistance", on T:27738 (9:17:15) 15:42 23:54 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased ring of fire resistance", on T:27740 (9:18:07) 15:42 * from 15:42 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Cen Fem Una) wished for "blessed +2 greased mithril helm of speed", on T:15370 (4:35:40) 15:42 wuutttt 15:42 must have been planning a LOT of fire 15:42 I'm curious what the intention was there 15:43 he should know that this channel is monitored for potential arsonists 15:43 hahah 15:44 K2 the champions have claws in my Illithid game 15:44 are they illithid as well? 15:44 yeah, known bug 15:44 check 15:44 https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack#L14 15:45 havent figured that one out yet 15:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:66426 (18:35:45) 15:54 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:30726 (6:31:24) 16:01 i wonder what happens if i use the landmines in ludios to dig a canal onto the magic chest 16:05 what do you expect to happen? 16:06 lollipops and roses 16:06 btw I don't even know what happens if you dig down on a magic chest square... 16:07 id like it to sink the magic chest and then when you open it at any other location the whole level floods 16:07 lol 16:07 \o/ 16:07 swimming pool mode, engage 16:07 it is called the Tortle Maneuver 16:08 "a statue of a white unicorn" this game has a theme 16:12 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Cen Fem Una) killed Medusa, on T:16427 (5:05:21) 16:13 heh 16:14 the Kraken Gambit 16:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:67369 (18:56:56) 16:18 krm26 I had an out-of-order Ludios in one of my games because I fell down a deep shaft 16:19 took me a while to figure that out 16:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:67763 (19:01:08) 16:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:67879 (19:05:39) 16:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Pri Hum Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:67882 (19:05:50) 16:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Pri Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:67900 (19:07:54) 16:31 > As the baby black dragon grows up into a black dragon, it dies! never gets old 16:32 dragon murderer! 16:32 lol 16:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed the illithid high priest of Moloch, on T:68117 (19:18:10) 16:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Pri Hum Mal Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:68138 (19:20:03) 16:43 doh, black dragons genocided. I am slow. 16:43 go go gadget shrigis 16:44 revenge for the disintegrated lucern hammer 16:47 did the hammer of the gods return when he was blind? 16:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed Lucifer, on T:68230 (19:25:14) 16:49 bro did not get 1 hit in. boulder fort + hotdog is a great strat 16:49 heh hotdog 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:68530 (19:31:29) 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered Purgatory, on T:68239 (19:26:41) 16:58 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Cen Fem Una) wished for "cursed +2 dragonhide hawaiian shirt", on T:17373 (5:51:34) 16:59 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Cen Fem Una) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:17382 (5:52:23) 16:59 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Cen Fem Una) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:17385 (5:52:47) 17:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed Saint Michael, on T:68394 (19:37:26) 17:02 is bro just never peaceful? i thought he'd be cool cuz im lawful 17:03 no, lucifer was the cool one 17:18 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Cen Fem Una) became the Emissary of Moloch, on T:18552 (6:11:24) 17:18 willisllama is having a good Infidel game 17:19 i cant get out of bed in 18k turns 17:21 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) used a forge to create the Armor of Retribution, on T:34774 (12:17:10) 17:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:69347 (20:03:40) 17:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:69157 (19:58:56) 17:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:69158 (19:59:02) 17:24 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dem Fem Una) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:19380 (6:17:36) 17:27 I wonder what gave @shrigis his sonic resistance... 17:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Pri Hum Mal Law) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:69274 (20:03:56) 17:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Pri Hum Mal Law) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:69274 (20:04:22) 17:28 years of listening to heavy metal 17:28 priest out of hell 17:29 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dem Fem Una), 390685 points, T:19923, petrified by a beholder 17:29 do goggles not work on the plane of water??? 17:29 for sight? 17:30 seem to work? 17:31 > The water elemental engulfs you! > You can still breathe, though. i thought the implication with magic breathing is that you literally don't need to breathe? 17:31 also no im pretty sure im getting sight from the eye for venca 17:35 the only thing goggles do is let you see further under water 17:35 I don't know what you were expecting? 17:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:69380 (20:13:41) 17:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed the saddled White Horse, on T:69384 (20:14:22) 17:39 "Breathlessnesss, also known as magical breathing, is a property in NetHack that allows a monster to breathe in any environment" (wiki) 17:39 yeah, how are you breathing whilst breathless 17:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a pair of leather yugake entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:11605 (1:15:48) 17:43 in the code, 'Breathless' is used to check if you have magical breathing or are in a breathless polyform 17:44 but, i don't believe the game ever refers to magical breathing as breathlessness to the player, it's just a confusing variable name 17:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Pri Hum Mal Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:69450 (20:21:25) 17:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Pri Hum Mal Law) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:69452 (20:21:36) 17:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a pair of steel tekko entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:12556 (1:20:36) 17:48 \o/ 17:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Pri Hum Mal Law), 7666750 points, T:69489, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Shrigis/evilhack/dumplog/1711139332.evil.html 17:50 congrats! 17:50 grats shrigis! 17:51 i was told lawfuls had extra cool stuff... did not see anything like that in this run 17:51 yeah that was me :-) 17:52 Hammer of the Gods and the Purity Gloves are extra cool for lawfuls. But as a priest getting the gloves is a bit harder... 17:53  did not see anything like that pfffff 17:53 also, that anti-balrog axe 17:54 but again, priest 17:54 bruh 17:54 bro! 17:55 i had to with for the sword remember 17:55 wish 17:55 yeah sunsword 17:55 and all priests get demonbane 17:55 not just lawful 17:55 i had an anti balrog hammer instead anyawy 17:55 heh 17:55 no scratch that 17:56 not a real hammer cuz u cant forge with it 17:56 yup, polearm skill != hammer skill 17:57 also which anti-balrog axe? 17:57 thingy... 17:58 Dramborleg? 17:58 yeah that one 17:58 talk about a niche bane, only gets bonus for 1 type of monster 17:58 extremely niche 17:59 but I still love to one-shot balrogs with a whip 17:59 i think you need to use the axe for that, not a whip 17:59 one-shot (balrogs with a whip) 18:00 the famous prepositional phrase attachment ambiguity 18:00 (I did computational linguistics in a previous life) 18:01 had some of lucifer's balrog dudes wield like axes or something instead of their whips 18:01 that made things easier 18:02 priest restrictions on weapons are pretty interesting, but there really should be a way to forge HoTdoG without wishing 18:04 i don't think i had sonic resistance last game, just stun resistance from chromatic scaled armor 18:04 which is actually a great scale color btw 18:04 cool choice that! 18:06 yeah i was sticking with yellow for a while cuz the yellow dragon at 'duza dropped a set and i needed acid resistance 18:07 but once i had dragonbane i decided displacement + stun res would more useful than stoning res 18:09 Dramborleg is good because MR 18:10 -!- lordDonut has joined #evilhack 18:10 in your flipping weapon slot! 18:10 Does Dramborleg's damage bonus apply vs everything and does it grant MC1 or add 1 to your MC? 18:11 def gotta run a neutral and an infidel next 18:12 wiki says the damage/to-hit bonuses are only vs balrogs but I don't believe that. What's the point of a +1d8 damage bonus when it instakills balrogs? 18:13 the MC is +1 MC 18:13 Dramborleg was supposed to have a +1d8 damage bonus vs any target, but 18:13 it was only applied towards demons. 18:13 it is vs everything 18:18 thanks, good to know 18:22 I feel like there should be some niche way to summon an archon so sunsword isn’t stupid to get for priests 18:25 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:36974 (13:01:00) 18:25 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:36978 (13:01:14) 18:30 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:26610 (12:38:52) 18:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26614 (12:39:17) 18:36 bring back 3.4.3 figurine rules (they get starting inventory) 18:40 +1. 18:40 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) averted death (decapitated by a vorpal jabberwock), on T:37596 (13:15:34) 18:48 U still gotta wish for a figure... 18:49 figurines don't get inventory 18:49 i still think HoOA and repeatedly converting an altar could work 18:50 can archons get summoned as minions? 18:50 Don't u need to be super high level for that 18:50 no, but even normal minions have a 1/40 chance of them 18:51 *of sunsword 18:51 oh 18:51 eh sure that’s fine then 18:52 the minion-summoning probability is super confusing though and i'm not certain how to maximize it. it would probably be a real pain to do 18:52 then again so is normal sacfesting 18:52 terrapin: that is why I'm suggesting bringing back 3.4.3 figurine rules, where they did get inventory 18:53 Maybe priests should get blunt sunsword as a gift 18:53 it's not a sword if it's blunt 18:53 sunmace 18:53 you still have to wish for a figurine and that’s lame 18:54 Yeah we need an option that doesn't require a wish or randomly generated artifact 18:55 the conversion thing is fine for me but it’s much too niche and convoluted for the average person 18:55 Way too meta gamey 18:56 It’s just weird that priests have to go to so much work to get sunsword, when it’s a) super holy n shit and b) an ingredient for the ultimate priest weapon 18:56 Yup 18:57 Sunmace don't even sound that bad. I mean, gnomes get crossbow of lenny as their qa 18:58 right, not like there’s no precedent for changing stuff based on your char 18:59 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) genocided alhoons, on T:38108 (13:25:17) 19:00 Your god could very well be stashing a special mace for a special guy 19:00 Priests only 19:00 random insane yani: change sunsword to sunshield, artifact light shield that doesn’t impede spellcasting 19:01 that will not happen but it’s fun to think about 19:01 Sunshirt 19:01 Artefact t-shirt 19:01 Now we’re cooking with rice 19:01 I will not elaborate further 19:04 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:41801 (12:13:58) 19:12 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:38779 (13:38:33) 19:18 sunblock 19:18 ^ artifact shield 19:18 spf 1000 19:18 dramborleg is meant to do extra damage to all targets. it instakills balrogs 19:18 need a drow shield that projects a transient cone of darkness 19:19 must first put facing mechanic in nethack 19:19 if you're wondering why dramborleg is the way it is, look it up (it's a Tolkien thing) 19:20 oooh hey, sunblock, artifact tube of lotion that works like a can of grease. hah 19:21 that's so dumb 19:21 tuor tarambor! 19:22 \o/ 19:23 he made out a lot better than his bro hurin 19:23 [backscroll] yes you can acquire every artifact you need to forge the hotdog (hahaha) without wishing. not every forged artifact is meant to be easy to make 19:27 helps to be lawful 19:29 boo, you can get it but it’s lame and not fun 19:30 you're lame and not fun 19:30 boo on you 19:30 if something isn’t meant to be hard to get it could at least be interesting to get. getting sunsword as priest is just sitting around for 1000s of turns 19:30 boo, I say... boo 19:30 D: 19:30 :P 19:31 or go find an archon 19:31 er, if something isn’t meant to be easy to get i mean 19:31 how, by sitting around for 1000s of turns? :P 19:32 toss a guaranteed imprisoned archon in vecna’s or something 19:32 easy mode 19:32 what do you think this is, unnethack? 19:32 ur easy mode 19:32 :P 19:32 you're just easy 19:32 priests are the best role anyway, they dont need anything to be easier 19:33 says the guy always begging for them to have no spellcasting penalty from shields 19:33 because k2 OWES ME GOOD PRIEST SHIELD 19:33 you're a shield 19:33 lol 19:33 instead of their dumbass quest hat 19:34 shield of alms collection 19:34 how dare you mock the mitre of holiness 19:34 SHAME 19:34 it’s just so mockable 19:35 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased amulet of life saving", on T:39259 (13:51:39) 19:35 it’s not even really bad but it is sort of underwhelming 19:36 ohh it is bad 19:37 helm of speed | oilskin cloth hat >>>>> mitre 19:37 false 19:37 you are alternative facts 19:37 everything it has is one step away from great. half physical, but only for demons. energy invoke, but not regeneration. mc, but only one point 19:37 maybe if the mitre incinerated any zombies or mind flayers that dared pollute its holiness 19:37 the mitre is buffed in evilhack 19:37 you can turn and pray in gehennom whilst wearing it 19:37 does it ever actually give it's damage bonus vs demons? 19:38 barely. you just get to pray in gehennom 19:38 and use turn 19:38 that prayer buff is, pardon my french, and implicitly acknowledge that evilhack is the best variant, bullshorts 19:38 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:38 I forgot turn even existed tbh 19:39 dnh devel makes it give 2x artifact holy damage (3x vs holy haters, 2x vs non-unholy-haters) on headbutt attacks 19:39 make every adjacent undead/demon have to check for fear every turn, that would be cool 19:39 dnh had (and still has in compat) a bug that allowed all non-neutrals to pray in gehennom and nobody noticed 19:39 see, you cant headbutt in evilhack. that would be cool though 19:39 no one needs to pray in gehennom 19:40 yup 19:40 like giving fire resistance after everybody would already have eaten their way to fire resistance 19:40 does it give fire resistance? that is really funny 19:40 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed Demogorgon, on T:39398 (13:57:12) 19:40 (i still think evil needs to nerf the food intrinsics, like cap their effectiveness at 90% or something, to make other gear meaningful) 19:41 that bug was present since the mitre prayer in gehennom thing was added to dnethack in 2022 19:41 priests get fire res at XL20 19:41 tbf, that bug likely wasn't noticed because there were no situations where people would benefit from prayer in gehennom, but rather because everyone assumed there was no bug allowing them to pray in gehennom. so it doesn't really prove anything 19:42 i hate you 19:42 *uh, add a not after the first because 19:42 *before it I mean 19:42 fuck, I can't type at all 19:42 * K2 runs away to cry, curled up with his mitre of holiness 19:43 they just dont understand us! we'll show them! someday... someday! 19:43 stop those crocodile tears, deceiver! 19:43 hahah 19:43 :P 19:44 i think i have acquired more mitres of holiness than any other evilhack player. and i regret every one 19:44 Any advantage to increase riding skill?  i.e., had Evil modified anything? 19:44 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:44 not really, just the being able to pick stuff up at basic I think 19:44 Like skilled or expert you can go down stairs without falling off your steed, burdened? 19:44 Or, eat off the floor at expert? 19:45 No, just picking up items and fighting efficiently while mounted, that's all the skill cares about. 19:45 P. sure. 19:45 ab Loggers_VIII 19:45 waddup 19:46 Adult baby? 19:47 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?4238 19:47 it's a stupid inside joke that has had surprising longevity 19:49 Ω 19:51 the fraternity 19:51 I want to ride a drider! 19:52 I man it is like a centaur. 19:52 easily done! one amulet, one ring, one potion 19:52 k2 says they are too proud to let you ride them 19:52 driders ride themselves 19:52 dnh makes riding skill give a carrycap bonus (and you use steed carrycap while riding) 19:52 monsters should be able to ride you if you are a centaur 19:53 So do centaurs.  The very definition of a drider "A centaur-like being that . . ." 19:53 smop or whateve 19:53 *whatever 19:53 centaur-like != centaur 19:53 Only dark elves should be able to ride them. 19:53 I mean they basically are centaurs but with horse swapped for spider 19:54 they are made in a different way though 19:54 lolth likes to turn drow into driders 19:54 silly really, without the chelicerae you've lost the best part of being a spider 19:54 krm26  so, yeah, become a drider, eh? 19:54 maybe there's a horse god turning guys into horses :p 19:55 like being a lizard without hemipenes 19:55 now, head of a spider on a lizard body, ooooh baby 19:55 i'll be in my bunk 19:55 pfff 19:58 K2: you can headbutt if you poly into certain forms (elder minotaur is probably the most usable), but I don't think any of them can wear helms 19:59 add pachycephalasaurus or whatever that headbutting dinosaur is called 19:59 Minotaurs can wear soft helms 19:59 pacheycephalosaurus 19:59 damn, I *knew* it was an o 19:59 off by one, still p. good :B 19:59 make the mitre a soft helm and give it the headbutt bonus 20:00 make it a dragonhide oilskin helm 20:00 dragonhide oilskin toque of brilliance 20:00 dragonhide oilskin toque of brilliance and speed 20:00 what do you think this is grunthack 20:00 I would kill for a hat like that 20:01 tortles rejoice 20:01 i think it'd be cool if barbarians could go into a berzerker mode when low on hit points, and they'll headbutt 20:01 scotish martial arts 20:01 oops 20:01 *scottish 20:02 that is a funny idea 20:02 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Fem Una), 75 points, T:136, killed by a contaminated potion 20:03 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Fem Una), 18 points, T:50, killed by a newt, while sleeping 20:03 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbMMuVbWaMI 20:04 heh 20:05 erik the viking 20:05 funny movie 20:05 if monks are confused or stunned they should do more goofy martial arts 20:05 i'm kinda proud of the halucination messages i made for martial arts 20:06 damn, wasnt willisllama just on a great infidel run? or am i confused 20:06 they were 20:06 hmm 20:07 -!- Loggers_VIII16 has joined #evilhack 20:07 -!- Loggers_VIII16 is now known as log 20:08 get outta here loggers viii 20:08 !lastgame willisllama 20:08 log: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/w/willisllama/evilhack/dumplog/1711670541.evil.html 20:09 if you logged in you could ghost yourself 20:09 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:10 wow real 20:10 there can only be one 20:10 -!- log is now known as Loggers_VIII 20:10 also willisllama got petrified by a beholder like 2 hours ago 20:11 doh 20:17 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1305 (0:13:52) 20:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had an axe entrusted to her by Venus, on T:72372 (21:58:57) 20:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:73075 (22:04:39) 20:24 sneaky venus trying to get me to blow up my hesperides 20:28 I think that +0 magicbane is safe to put in a bag now maybe? 20:28 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a dwarvish spear entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:14799 (1:38:54) 20:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:73963 (22:21:10) 20:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a helm of speed entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:15218 (1:43:49) 20:49 hmm, should i get peg instantly devoured or instantly death magiced 20:49 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Fem Una), 7553 points, T:3522, killed by an air elemental of Crom 20:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) used a forge to create Dichotomy, on T:74160 (22:32:23) 20:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Goon (Kni Dro Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Lolth, on T:44879 (15:28:11) 21:12 Is Ixoth carrying/holding the Mirror from the get go? 21:13 as with most (all?) quest nemeses, no 21:13 it's on the ground underneath him 21:14 the QA is always generated on the same square as the nemesis to my knowledge 21:14 so stealthy movement could wand of death him. 21:14 conveniently found one on a locator level 21:41 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.2.1] 21:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Goon (Kni Dro Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed set of celestial dragon scales", on T:45743 (16:28:02) 22:04 the mitre is really quite nice on lawfuls/neutrals 22:04 drow poison only makes beings fall unconscious, correct? 22:05 chaotics don't #turn as much, but it's really great on illithids---eat quest wraith for like 700 power and then just hover around 500/700 all game, invoking every hundred turns for budget energy regen 22:05 lordDonut either that or an extra...1d3? damage 22:05 maybe 1d2, can't remember 22:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Goon (Kni Dro Mal Cha) had a pair of dark elven bracers entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:45914 (16:40:57) 22:09 How convenient. An elven priest for my chaotic drow on the knight Quest. 22:10 Thanks terrapin  So, unless you want to lay someone down for a nap, kind of useless. 22:10 well...yes 22:11 drow poison is sleep, yes 22:11 but laying someone down for a nap is usually useful 22:11 ^ 22:11 not a lot of sleep resistant monsters 22:11 also being put to sleep without resistance yourself usually loses you the game lol 22:11 incapacitating a monster for even a few turns can be the difference between life and death 22:35 oh sure, I completely value sleep wand and spell.  And it is another resource for it.  I should say, useless in terms of doing damage. 22:35 *eyes Kathrynn* 22:38 its purpose isn't to deal damage directly but enable you to do more without as much retaliation 22:38 also she's sleep resistant lmao 22:38 use para pots instead 22:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Goon (Kni Dro Mal Cha) killed the invisible Ixoth, on T:46706 (17:23:51) 22:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Goon (Kni Dro Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:46756 (17:24:30) 22:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:22435 (2:41:51) 22:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Goon (Kni Dro Mal Cha) completed his quest without incident, on T:47052 (17:33:30) 22:59 why lmao? 22:59 I was not worried about sleep.   I know that.  Was worried about the poison and the damage. 22:59 She goes down far too easy with poison. 23:00 Was not sure if drow poison is a poison and can kill or if it is just sleeping 23:00 And one cannot use paralysis w/o free action. ;-) 23:01 my pots are waiting in my  chest until I get it 23:02 you can throw the pots also 23:02 with high Dex they're actually sorta reliable 23:04 and with an elf, well... hmmmm.... 23:05 So used to thrown potions not being all that effective. 23:05 But I always use poison, or boulders if a giant. Usually only takes a few hits. 23:06 Will try paralysis first. 23:08 up to you 23:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:23740 (2:52:27) 23:38 no. it is the hivemind's decision. 23:38 01100010 01100101 01100101 01110000 00001010 23:47 ...ok.