00:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:24401 (7:18:39)
00:49 <Umbire> @e?spotted jelly
01:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 198299 points, T:28706, killed by a snow golem
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02:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] SludgeGunkman (Rog Elf Mal Cha), 134 points, T:1283, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food
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04:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Dwa Mal Law), 1516 points, T:3411, killed by a giant mimic
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07:37 <K2> pinobot is down since last night as you may have noticed. was rerouting power in the basement, managed switch never came back up correctly. until i have time to fix it or reroute what devices are plugged into what, it'll be down
07:38 <Umbire> Ah, bothersome
07:38 <Umbire> I'll make do, thanks for the info
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08:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Orc Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible rebatela's ghost, the former Novice, on T:12669 (6:04:01)
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09:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Orc Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible parasite's ghost, the former Bachelor, on T:12731 (6:20:41)
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09:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a dagger entrusted to her by Odin, on T:778 (0:08:37)
09:15 <mobileuser> elven watchman / dark elven watchman :-(
09:15 <mobileuser> pretty sure they will see my invisible convict
09:16 <mobileuser> shame, as I spotted a co-aligned temple priest there as well
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09:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (woodchucks), on T:2505 (0:27:32)
09:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 59 points, T:248, killed by a system shock
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10:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:5239 (0:56:25)
10:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:5428 (0:58:58)
10:27 <mobileuser> that feeling when you find a dragonhide hat but you're already wearing a helm of speed
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10:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:6778 (1:16:20)
10:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:15587 (7:53:22)
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11:16 <K2> bleh
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12:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:66558 (2 days, 11:17:44)
12:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:66559 (2 days, 11:18:03)
12:13 <K2> woo go dingotron!
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12:14 <dingotron> lets see if I can survive some planes
12:15 <K2> you got this
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12:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 4109 points, T:1084, killed by a gnome queen
12:32 <jonadab> !tell Umbire  Resurecting my databases from the computer on which I did that conversion, is something I've already previously spent hours on and not had success.  I have the entire contents of /var/lib/mysql but have not been able to get MariaDB to start successfully with it.  I've also tried to get old versions of MySQL running in emulation to recover it but have thus far not managed to do so.
12:32 <Hecubus> Will do, jonadab!
12:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class D, on T:66652 (2 days, 11:40:05)
12:34 <dingotron> damn. forgot again that blessed genocide scrolls cant target monsters
12:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) genocided sea dragons, on T:66656 (2 days, 11:42:30)
12:36 <jonadab> !tell Umbire Part of the problem is that a lot of time has passed.  My records indicate that the system in question was running Debian squeeze when it died.  It was a desktop, it was behind a firewall, and I didn't want some of the GUI changes in newer versions...
12:36 <Hecubus> Will do, jonadab!
12:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:857 (0:05:37)
12:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:997 (0:07:52)
12:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 2800 points, T:1789, killed by a giant cockroach
12:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 19 darts on an altar, on T:4989 (0:39:34)
12:49 <rebatela> yes lots of false promises and exaggerated claims, but i'm just dying to know the beatitutde of these darts 
12:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 8744 points, T:5209, killed by a lynx
12:51 <rebatela> thanks a lot god. where were ya there?
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13:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:108690 (23:58:18)
13:06 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> > You kill Juiblex! > You fall into the water!  You sink like a rock.  The water slides right off your Bag of the Hesperides.  Your towel gets damp. > You try to crawl out of the water.  Pheew!  That was close.  You are splashed by Juiblex's acid! in that order
13:07 <dingotron> plane of water taking too long. will come back later today
13:15 <K2> woo boy
13:15 <K2> yeah take your time
13:15 <K2> there's no rush
13:19 <rebatela> sometimes the dishes pile up and those planes can take forever 
13:19 <rebatela> do i really have aphrodite on DL 5?!? is that even possible? 
13:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) killed Dispater, on T:109316 (1 day, 0:12:39)
13:20 <rebatela> either that or there's one room of really pissed off nymphs 
13:20 <K2> yes
13:21 <K2> her level can appear between levels 5-15 inclusive
13:21 <rebatela> so weird i have like a 12x12 potion shop on DL4 (nymph run) and then aphrodite on next lvl 
13:22 <rebatela> i was lucky and there happened to be a level teleporter and it brought me up couple levels 
13:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:67024 (2 days, 12:29:06)
13:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) wished for "12 blessed dilithium crystal", on T:67036 (2 days, 12:33:48)
13:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 6657542 points, T:67037, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dingotron/evilhack/dumplog/1709192453.evil.html
13:33 <dingotron> woop!
13:33 <K2> \o/
13:33 <K2> congrats!
13:33 <dingotron> thx
13:34 <dingotron> that was fun.
13:34 <rebatela> congrats!
13:34 <terracotta> congrats dingotron!
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13:35 <rebatela> were you casting haste for speed? 
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13:35 <dingotron> had a lot of luck on final ascension run. Was able to death ray rodney every time. only had to face one rider (famine). first altar. never lost a hitpoint on astral.
13:36 <dingotron> @rebetela yes I casted haste about 15-20 times just before killing the wizard and picking up amulet
13:36 <rebatela> nice! yeah, it's easy enough to do when you have the PW regen 
13:36 <dingotron> also I rode a pegasus for speed (with a lot of jumping) for the ascension run.
13:37 <rebatela> sweet
13:37 <dingotron> I lost Mjolnir partway through the game so I was nervous about having an effective way to fight hand to hand with wizard if I had to. But it didn't matter.
13:39 <dingotron> I did revive Famine twice by accident as I was trying to teleport monsters out the way that happened to be standing on his corpse. I am glad I didn't make that mistake vs a rider I couldn't just keep putting down with death ray.
13:39 <rebatela> yeah sometimes you can just get lucky with what you are dealt with rodney 
13:40 <dingotron> for sure
13:40 <rebatela> that shit is so easy to do lol ( the teleporting rider corpse )
13:40 <dingotron> lol. as I learned!
13:43 <dingotron> Either-way, the main secret to smooth ascension run is have lots of charges for tele wands and death wands. And through sanctum, purgatory and astral, the best way is just ignore monsters, just be fast and leave them behind. make a path with tele wand and jump past to get to the next stairs, portal.
13:43 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> angelslayer is still missing. how far can monsters levelport down?
13:43 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> current hypothesis is that a balrog generated with it and stepped into a levelport trap
13:44 <dingotron> @shrigis at what point do you just play it out without angelslayer?
13:45 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> i think once i forge the sword of annihilation i won't have angelslayer anymore
13:45 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> and then use the sword for the armor of retribuiton obv
13:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) made his first wish - "uncursed magic marker", on T:110225 (1 day, 0:39:00)
13:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:110246 (1 day, 0:40:28)
13:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:110246 (1 day, 0:40:34)
13:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) genocided alhoons, on T:110248 (1 day, 0:41:06)
13:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) genocided beholders, on T:110250 (1 day, 0:41:27)
13:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:110255 (1 day, 0:43:04)
13:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:416 (0:03:11)
13:53 <rebatela> dingotron: yep... Even in vanilla, i try to save as many teleport charges and then yeah once you have the amulet it's about avoiding things as much as anything. It's tempting to get bogged down and fight
13:54 <rebatela> especially in evil, when there are Yellow @s that have loot etc., but it's best to just walk around things if possible 
13:58 <dingotron> yes! my last ascension, I thought I would try to stop and farm the yellow @ in purgatory for some last minute loot. That was a bad idea. Got mobbed and almost didn't make it.  This time I just ran past them, and still escaped with more loot and gear than I actually needed.
14:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3314 (0:34:37)
14:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2554 points, T:3499, killed by a baby owlbear called FUCK YOU
14:02 <rebatela> yikes! that owlbear had a potty mouth. sorry about that ! 
14:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Rog Hob Mal Neu) had a long sword entrusted to him by Mog, on T:1745 (0:14:36)
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14:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 2217 points, T:1407, killed by a giant cockroach
14:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:113598 (1 day, 1:23:45)
14:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:113599 (1 day, 1:23:48)
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14:43 <mobileuser> woohoo congrats dingotron!
14:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:114085 (1 day, 1:31:45)
14:55 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> late congrats for me, dingotron!
14:55 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> *from me
14:57 <mobileuser> found my quest which will give me an altar, but I can't reach a magic key yet so there will be a lot of walking back to stash without a BoH
14:57 <mobileuser> magic chests have spoiled me
14:57 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> no way to get to the mines end one?
14:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "blessed fixed master key of thievery", on T:114402 (1 day, 1:41:05)
14:57 <mobileuser> I don't want to murder the guards
14:57 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> there. i gave up on angelslayer
14:58 <rld> Loggers_VIII said:
14:58 <rld> !whereis mobileuser
14:58 <Hecubus> rld: [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil]: (Con Orc Mal Cha) T:17573 The Dungeons of Doom level: 13
14:58 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> was gonna get half physical from the armor of retribution and go arti-wishless
14:58 <mobileuser> yeah sometimes you just never find an artifact, been there...
14:58 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> but i think a xorn ate it or something
14:58 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> angelslayer i mean
14:58 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> Are you going for no alignment abuse mobileuser?
14:58 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> cast detect treasure of every level and still nothing
14:59 <mobileuser> not really, but I want to avoid having to kill my quest leader
14:59 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> ah
14:59 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> you can just dig around them if none of them have seen you yet
15:00 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> > You hear futile pleas for mercy! what does that mean?
15:00 <mobileuser> special demon lord level
15:00 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> I think that’s just flavor for the last demon lair
15:00 <K2> ^ this
15:00 <mobileuser> with lots of i
15:00 <mobileuser> thingies
15:00 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> lemurs
15:00 <K2> new monster - thingie
15:00 <mobileuser> :-)
15:01 <K2> or thingy
15:01 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> *lemures :p
15:01 <K2> king julian
15:01 <mobileuser> lol
15:02 <mobileuser> loggers I could dig past minetown, but how to get back up?
15:05 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> yani oracle consultation that tell you the location of a random generated artifact that you missed. super expensive (10k gold+)
15:07 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> very relevant for forging the armor of retribution when there are 3 separate chances to get screwed with a random trollsbane in the corner of the 5th mines level or whatever
15:07 <mobileuser> nice idea!
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15:09 <K2> heh
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15:11 <mobileuser> I can also look for Ludios and see if I can handle the first monster room there
15:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:9607 (2:33:33)
15:12 <mobileuser> will need a better weapon first, that +0 dagger isn't great
15:12 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> > Tiamat steals the blessed fireproof +6 Longbow of Diana! what
15:12 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> why
15:12 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> ???
15:12 <mobileuser> huh?
15:12 <stenno> pew pew
15:12 <mobileuser> can they steal quest artifacts?
15:12 <stenno> a dragon shooting a bow, now thats a view
15:12 <Loggers_VIII> because her artifact-stealing attack wasn't removed when she was made a demon prince
15:13 <mobileuser> oof
15:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) killed Tiamat, on T:114830 (1 day, 1:56:46)
15:13 <mobileuser> bug or intentional?
15:13 <Loggers_VIII> it's been mentioned before but idk if k2 was ever made aware
15:13 <Loggers_VIII> really fucked with one of my healers who was using the QA as their main weapon
15:14 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> oh hey chromatic dragon scales
15:14 <mobileuser> \o/
15:14 <mobileuser> consolation prize!
15:14 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> i guess that can substitute the armor of retribution somewhat
15:15 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> cursed magic lamp overrides the light from them right
15:15 <Loggers_VIII> I think it should re: lamp
15:16 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> > You finish your dressing maneuver.  Ow, that light hurts!  Your set of chromatic dragon scales begins to shine brightly!
15:16 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> ok yes it does
15:17 <mobileuser> what cloak were you using?
15:18 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> dragonhide displacement
15:18 <mobileuser> nice
15:18 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> how is that relevant? i attached the scales to my crystal pl8 anyway
15:19 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> looks like chromatic scaled armor does not give displacement
15:19 <mobileuser> oh, if you had been using a cloak for MR, then you would have gained options
15:19 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> finally freed up ammy slot for lifesaving
15:19 <mobileuser> ah
15:19 <mobileuser> flying!
15:20 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> nah i'll stick with lifesaving
15:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Rog Hob Mal Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Mog, on T:4701 (1:27:52)
15:20 <mobileuser> what have you been using for MR then? gray scaled?
15:20 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> ammy
15:21 <mobileuser> my brain is failing
15:21 <mobileuser> ammy?
15:21 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> ammy
15:21 <mobileuser> ammy!
15:21 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> amulet
15:21 <mobileuser> lol
15:21 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> the light range is bigger than the dark range
15:21 <rld> <Shrigis> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204191497331810338/1220089932585111732/image.png?ex=660dac4c&is=65fb374c&hm=d12343a83099010403d2bd9132144b3f4d6287b2535870ad9da59207bedcc87e&
15:22 <mobileuser> heh funny
15:22 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> also tiamat is both a gold dragon and a shadow dragon, so it should be 50% chance to eithet give off light or darkness in every game
15:22 <mobileuser> unbless the armor?
15:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 1602 points, T:1001, killed by the Goblin King
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15:23 <Noisytoot> I don't think tiamat is a shadow dragon
15:23 <Noisytoot> unless evilhack changed AD_RBRE to include that
15:23 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> she has drain resistance
15:23 <K2> as a demon, yeah she has drain res
15:23 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> both a demon and a dragon?
15:23 <K2> yes
15:25 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> crap my arrows are gonna crumble in the light circle
15:30 <mobileuser> no unholy potions on you?
15:30 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> i have 200 arrows its fine
15:30 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> might go back to those sweet wooden GoP now that i have both reflection and acid resistance from body armor
15:31 <mobileuser> if only you still had the hand of vecna
15:32 <mobileuser> oh wait
15:32 <mobileuser> or did you get the eye?
15:37 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> oh yeah right
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15:38 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> so i didnt even need to wish for the key
15:39 <mobileuser> "hungerless regeneration, half physical damage, and disease resistance"
15:39 <mobileuser> sounds good
15:40 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> i god disease from crowning and used up a wish for mkot for half physical
15:40 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> got*
15:40 <mobileuser> ah ok
15:40 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> regeneration and bonus cold damage do seem nice tho
15:41 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> plus +7 and can't deteriorate
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15:41 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> at least the key has slotless warning, teleport control and unlocks crystal chests so its not a complete waste
15:44 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> gonna need to remember to nurse dance my hp back up before the ascention run
15:45 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> also eating spiders for drow should count like eating dogs
15:47 <Umbire> https://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/68190/how-would-drow-react-to-players-having-using-becoming-spiders
15:47 <Hecubus> Umbire: Message from jonadab at 2024-03-20 12:32 EDT:  Resurecting my databases from the computer on which I did that conversion, is something I've already previously spent hours on and not had success.  I have the entire contents of /var/lib/mysql but have not been able to get MariaDB to start successfully with it.  I've also tried to get old versions of MySQL running in emulation to recover it but have thus far not managed to do so.
15:47 <Hecubus> Umbire: Message from jonadab at 2024-03-20 12:36 EDT: Part of the problem is that a lot of time has passed.  My records indicate that the system in question was running Debian squeeze when it died.  It was a desktop, it was behind a firewall, and I didn't want some of the GUI changes in newer versions...
15:47 <Umbire> Ah, unfortunate. Hmmm
15:48 <Loggers_VIII> I think the idea behind the dog/cat eating thing is that the monsters of the dungeon think eating those is messed up
15:48 <Umbire> but yeah also drow are kinda "supposed" to be fucked up and weird
15:48 <Loggers_VIII> so it aggravates monster
15:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Rog Hob Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:7854 (2:03:30)
16:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Rog Hob Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:8991 (2:16:28)
16:15 <botifico> [EvilHack] jkoudys opened issue #173: Shadowblade evades grasp for non-Chaotics - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/issues/173
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16:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Rog Hob Mal Neu) destroyed parasite's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:9862 (2:28:52)
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17:00 <mobileuser> all those dark elven monsters invoking darkness everywhere really add a new element to the game
17:00 <mobileuser> stop messing up my quest home dark elven prison guard
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17:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Orc Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:19760 (10:05:14)
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17:14 <mobileuser> finally a somewhat serious weapon
17:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Monk (Mon Hum Mal Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a rock troll corpse, on T:38820 (13:59:53)
17:15 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> hahaha monk the monk
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17:32 <lordDonut> You kill the rock troll! You are beginning to feel hungry.
17:32 <lordDonut> Picks up food. Put food in bag. Removes uncursed food ration from bag.
17:32 <lordDonut> Y - an uncursed food ration.
17:32 <lordDonut> Eat what? Type capital 'Y'.
17:32 <lordDonut> You feel guitly.
17:32 <lordDonut> What?!
17:32 <lordDonut> Of course I missed the "There is a rock troll corpse here; eat it? [ynq] (n) y"
17:33 <lordDonut> In my nearly 40 years of playing Hack, never encountered this.
17:33 <lordDonut> I know about being careful with inventory letters.
17:34 <lordDonut> Also assign food that is "special" with specific inventory letters.
17:34 <lordDonut> And I know: "be careful, pay attention."
17:35 <stenno> yeah a classic interface screw
17:35 <lordDonut> Long story short: so, NetHack does not discern between captial with prompts? It accepts a capital as 'y' answer?
17:35 <lordDonut> ^capital
17:35 <stenno> Y
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17:35 <stenno> didn't know that either i have to admit
17:36 <stenno> would paranoid_confirm make you type yes?
17:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Rog Hob Mal Neu) destroyed parasite's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:13847 (3:44:01)
17:37 <lordDonut> I know I did capital, too. As I always hit and hold down shift and then type the letter. Just a habit I've gotten used to with roguelikes over the years.
17:38 <lordDonut> I was wondering if there was a way to avoid that.  Especially with food.  And also quitting. I am so paranoid about hitting 'y' to 'Really Quit?' after tired, long Hack session.
17:38 <stenno> check out the paranoid_ options
17:38 <lordDonut> I've have accidentally quit before in roguelikes.
17:38 <stenno> they force you to type 'yes' instead of 'y'
17:38 <lordDonut> Will certainly do so!
17:39 <stenno> lordDonut: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Options#paranoid_confirmation for vanilla, dunno if there are more in evil
17:39 <lordDonut> Especially as I do not see this as "oh well, I ate meat, time to eat a floating eye corpse for telepathy."
17:39 <lordDonut> I see it as samurai honor/code:
17:40 <lordDonut> #suicide
17:40 <lordDonut> i.e.,  quit rather than continue.
17:40 <stenno> quite the dedication :)
17:41 <lordDonut> Well, it changes the game drastically.
17:41 <Umbire> I mean you still take alignment record penalties
17:41 <lordDonut> Seeing a pink '5' or purple '4' without telepathy is scary. :)
17:41 <Umbire> and they're also more significant in Evil
17:41 <lordDonut> Oh, I know, that too, Umbire.
17:42 <lordDonut> Was gonna try to do perfeect conduct.
17:42 <lordDonut> Hell, I did that before it was a thing, in NetHack.
17:42 <lordDonut> Hit with wielded weapon?     #quit
17:43 <lordDonut> Was having a unique challenge in this game with _no_ altars other than Minetown.
17:44 <lordDonut> Sure, sure: the quest. But all you get is Xorns and and stalkers.
17:44 <stenno> if only you'd gotten orctown :P
17:45 <bhaak> jonadab: could you give a short summary of the timeline? I completely missed how it came to be and only noticed it when it got into more variants
17:45 <lordDonut> Thought I had my solution with a newly found purple worm and newly found scroll of taming. A few hundred turns later, I am riddled with guilt!
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17:45 <lordDonut> Orctown is love/hate for me.
17:45 <lordDonut> Evilhack certainly makes it better!
17:46 <stenno> what are the changes?
17:48 <mobileuser> at least it has a shop
17:48 <lordDonut> Shopkeepers corpses are generated with their items.
17:49 <lordDonut> Yes, the shop, of course.
17:49 <lordDonut> So many times I go to regular Minetown with no general store..... really sucks.
17:49 <lordDonut> There is more loot in general.
17:50 <mobileuser> even a magic lamp sometimes
17:50 <lordDonut> Do priests have their inventories in vanilla? Robe, spellbooks?
17:50 <lordDonut> I do not think they do.
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17:52 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> the dead priest in orctown? no
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17:53 <mobileuser> ""I had spent many years enchanting my iron ball [...] turning it into the Striped Shirt of Liberation" :-)
17:53 <mobileuser> K2 that text needs adapting somewhat
17:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Monk (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 188064 points, T:38923, killed by a purple worm
17:55 <lordDonut> There's an interesting bones file (if it generates).
17:55 <lordDonut> Rather than quit.  Or is that deemed inappropriate?
17:57 <rld> Loggers_VIII said:
17:57 <rld> !lastgame
17:57 <Hecubus> rld: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Monk/evilhack/dumplog/1710797556.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/parasite/evilhack/dumplog/1710922784.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/l/leafG/evilhack/dumplog/1709419086.evil.html
17:58 <lordDonut> Want to play a male lawful dwarven warrior.
17:59 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> what’s your username on hdf lorddonut?
17:59 <lordDonut> Samurai seems odd.
17:59 <lordDonut> It is Monk.
17:59 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> ah I see, that makes sense
18:00 <lordDonut> And somtimes Spear.
18:00 <lordDonut> And sometimes . . .
18:00 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> and yeah dying on purpose is nicer than quitting cause then someone can find your bones
18:00 <lordDonut> My mood changes. Magic-user. Headbasher.
18:01 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> heh fair enough
18:01 <lordDonut> I want to try and leave a scenario where there is risk/reward . . . but digressed.
18:01 <lordDonut> ^wanted
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18:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Orc Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Tymora, on T:21113 (10:26:03)
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20:01 <dingotron> Loggers_VIII a late thanks for the congrats! and thanks for your help and tips along the way
20:02 <Umbire> gg
20:11 <Loggers_VIII> no problemo
20:25 <K2> @e?vorpal jabberwock
20:25 <Hecubus> vorpal jabberwock (J) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 70 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -2 | Atk: 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 claw behead, 3d10 claw behead | Align: 0 | carnivore, flies, infravis
20:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1422 (0:08:20)
20:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed greased magical dragonhide +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:1429 (0:08:51)
20:31 <Umbire> we're so fucking back
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21:54 <K2> gnite all
21:55 <Umbire> Night
21:55 <K2> !tell mobileuser thanks for the heads up about the convict quest wording bug o/
21:55 <Hecubus> mobileuser shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, K2.
21:56 <Umbire> yz K2, sleep well o7
21:56 <K2> yz
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22:07 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> yz
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22:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:3054 (0:15:16)
22:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arcusmagus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5394 (2:00:39)
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22:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:5019 (0:27:47)
22:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arcusmagus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6216 (2:08:07)
23:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 8628 points, T:9265, killed by a piranha
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23:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3228 (0:57:13)
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23:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arcusmagus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:8303 (2:30:36)
23:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:5429 (1:16:28)
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23:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 800 points, T:1683, killed by a rock piercer
23:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arcusmagus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "DX", on T:11739 (3:04:50)