00:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 1371 points, T:2737, killed by a dwarven watch captain
00:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had a splint mail entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:6044 (0:21:40)
00:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:6481 (0:23:36)
00:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had a dagger entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:6947 (0:25:53)
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00:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:7302 (0:31:47)
00:47 <dingotron> So an ogre zaps me with a magic wand, which reflects off of me and hits my pet (heavily armored) Master Lich, which somehow suddenly untames the Lich.
00:49 <dingotron> This just after accidentally reading a scroll of enchant weapon when i meant to read the enchant armor one... and instantly vaporizing my +7 Mjolnir.
00:49 <dingotron> Still alive. but dang. It's not my night.
00:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:6234 (0:50:25)
01:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of gauntlets of protection entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:8969 (0:46:56)
01:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had a shield of reflection entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:10478 (0:50:57)
01:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Spear (Cav Gia Mal Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:34103 (8:26:33)
01:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:12540 (0:56:57)
01:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:45732 (1 day, 9:29:28)
01:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:45803 (1 day, 9:36:40)
01:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a quasit, on T:15165 (1:28:42)
01:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 21878 points, T:15231, killed by an orange dragon, while praying
02:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:46085 (1 day, 10:04:26)
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04:12 <mobileuser> Nightsorrow's ghost with a black dragon on the level
04:13 <mobileuser> run away!!
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05:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Kni Orc Mal Cha) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:79396 (1 day, 4:16:05)
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06:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Kni Orc Mal Cha) killed Tal'Gath, on T:80634 (1 day, 4:57:39)
06:15 <Umbire> Guy's actually doing alright this time, think he'll send it?
06:37 <mobileuser> Hard to tell. He does have a habit of walking around burdened and doing strange things
06:39 <Umbire> Granted there's a difference between him being burdened and most anyone else doing it
06:39 <Umbire> I'm still annoyed about that healer bones bag
06:39 <mobileuser> ?
06:40 <Umbire> I think it's in a parked game rn but I found his bones on Healer locate
06:41 <Umbire> bag of holding that put me to strained to try and carry
06:41 <Umbire> and wasn't cursed
06:41 <mobileuser> ah
06:41 <Umbire> I'm like "fuck is you doin"
06:41 <mobileuser> heh
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09:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 87283 points, T:21508, killed by a vorpal jabberwock
10:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 697 points, T:1126, killed by a dwarf lady
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10:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Mon Dro Fem Cha) had 18 steel shuriken entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:12547 (4:10:53)
10:34 <K2> :)
10:35 <Umbire> ab K2
10:35 <K2> hi
10:35 <Hecubus> Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack
10:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Mon Dro Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:13164 (4:24:22)
10:44 <Umbire> trying my hand at a 3.6.7 Itlachiayaque patch as discussed in ##nethack-variants 
10:47 <Umbire> How would I most easily produce a .diff file from that
10:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1070 (0:05:46)
10:52 <Umbire> I've currently applied all the changes, even corrected that one error
10:54 <stenno> git diff
10:56 <rebatela> no earth scrolls in my soko :(
10:57 <rebatela> i want a refund 
10:57 <Umbire> ic
11:00 <Umbire> stenno, and then I just transfer that to a file I named .diff? or is it just made on its own?
11:01 <stenno> just pipe the output to a file, sure
11:01 <stenno> also compare git apply
11:03 <Umbire> which does?
11:03 <Umbire> actually lemme peek
11:03 <stenno> take a guess
11:04 <Umbire> right, will read and mess with
11:04 <Umbire> ty
11:05 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> @e?greater pegasus
11:05 <Hecubus> greater pegasus (u) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 24 | Res: sleep poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: special | AC: -6 | Atk: 2d8 kick physical, 2d8 kick physical, 4d6 bite physical | Align: 0 | herbivore, flies, oviparous, regen, nopoly, infravis
11:05 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> @e?pegasus
11:05 <Hecubus> pegasus (u) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 24 | Res: sleep poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: special | AC: -4 | Atk: 2d6 kick physical, 2d6 kick physical, 4d4 bite physical | Align: 0 | herbivore, flies, oviparous, regen, nopoly, infravis
11:06 <rld> <Shrigis> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204191497331810338/1217126660051173376/image.png?ex=6602e488&is=65f06f88&hm=b0af49d9d7c50e283d3397dbba3c41097ae2ac2c7ae8b38d4ec98bef0ae4a255&
11:07 <K2> hah
11:07 <K2> i hatch into myself
11:07 <K2> edit it @shrigis
11:24 <Umbire> whee, that was easy
11:24 <Umbire> need to see if it actually works though
11:25 <Umbire> K2, what do you pluralize pegasus as again
11:30 <K2> pegasi i think is the correct term
11:30 <K2> could ask teh google
11:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:7475 (0:52:07)
11:34 <Umbire> Pegasi is the correct term, but idk if that's what you used in-game
11:34 <Umbire> just wanted to make sure :B
11:56 <K2> the game should automagically use it
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12:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:8552 (1:23:16)
12:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:8667 (1:25:09)
12:11 <Noisytoot> if you want to export a commit as a patch, the correct way is git format-patch to create the patch and git am to apply it (which applies it as a commit rather than just onto the working tree like git apply)
12:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:9064 (1:33:04)
12:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Scringe's ghost, the former Pawn, on T:9079 (1:33:25)
12:24 <Umbire> K2, can you still use confused taming and a magic whistle to "cheat" the pegasus out of the cell it's in?
12:25 <Umbire> on Ice Queen's last level
12:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:4068 (1:52:12)
12:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5534 (1:35:05)
12:39 <Umbire> Noisytoot, noted
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12:48 <K2> Umbire probably. i've never tried it but i dont see why that wouldnt work
12:48 <Umbire> I know someone's tried and done it before
12:49 <Umbire> Was just making sure it hadn't been changed before I updated the article :B
12:49 <Umbire> ab Loggers_VIII 
12:49 <Umbire> I did a thing
12:49 <Loggers_VIII> sup
12:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:6146 (2:17:12)
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13:11 <rebatela> oh good... I don't have to bother anymore with this mimic of the mines crap level because something  hit the polytrap for me and became a vorpal jabberwock
13:19 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> @e?vorpal jabberwock
13:19 <Hecubus> vorpal jabberwock (J) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 70 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -2 | Atk: 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 claw behead, 3d10 claw behead | Align: 0 | carnivore, flies, infravis
13:20 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> only 12 speed, you can try to maneuver around it
13:26 <Umbire> K2, terrapin: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/makemon.c#L1242
13:26 <Umbire> if I'm reading this right, an elven monster gets an elven helm only IF they're one of the listed monsters?
13:26 <Umbire> (I'm probably not)
13:27 <terrapin> yeah that's right
13:27 <Umbire> And that's a 1/2 chance for said listed monsters?
13:28 <rld> <hackemslashem [@hackemslashem]> rebatela: what a relief!
13:28 <terrapin> yup. 50% chance an elf gets a hat/cloak. If they do, they get a cloak unless they're a listed monster, in which case it's 50/50
13:29 <rebatela> hehe i can't stand that level, plus i had removed  my robe out of fear of hitting the trap i'm sure was there 
13:31 <rebatela> in the old days, I would have hit the poly trap, torn the robe, and thrown my laptop across the room 
13:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a pair of cloth riding gloves entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:9669 (2:22:49)
13:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha), 102 points, T:399, killed by a fox
13:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:10739 (2:31:06)
13:45 <rebatela> yeah, i was gonna try to do the illiterate thing. Really had it going there for a bit ! 
13:47 <rebatela> i'm gonna go back to focusing on where the F is my stash... 
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13:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha), 1375 points, T:1838, killed by a bolt of lightning
13:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:11325 (2:44:29)
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14:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha), 889 points, T:1536, killed by the Goblin King
14:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1091 (0:06:23)
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14:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had 16 shuriken entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:12244 (2:55:21)
14:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Hob Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:17564 (11:40:26)
14:16 <mobileuser> still no altar or holy water, maybe I can write blessed remove curse now
14:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha), 1612 points, T:2117, quit
14:21 <rld> Shrigis said:
14:21 <rld> !lastgame
14:21 <Hecubus> rld: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Shrigis/evilhack/dumplog/1710266577.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/post163/evilhack/dumplog/1710121309.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/l/leafG/evilhack/dumplog/1709419086.evil.html
14:21 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> any idea why lolth was displeased there? i just wanted to uncurse the blindfold
14:23 <K2> 'You were unlucky.'
14:23 <K2> alignment rating was good (pious) but never pray when unlucky
14:24 <K2> also, dont quit - you can overcome that. or at the very least, die and leave some neat bones for future players
14:27 <Loggers_VIII> bonesbonesbones
14:28 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> isnt that from the failed prayer
14:29 <Loggers_VIII> shrigis did you touch iron maybe?
14:30 <Loggers_VIII> that has a luck penalty for drow, -1 I believe
14:31 <Loggers_VIII> prob for elves too
14:31 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> permament?
14:31 <Loggers_VIII> no just temporary
14:31 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> no it's not that then
14:31 <Loggers_VIII> you'll get a message like 'you feel very uneasy wielding cold iron'
14:32 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> i wasn't wearing anything iron at the time
14:32 <Loggers_VIII> did you touch any within like 600 turns of praying?
14:32 <Loggers_VIII> or however long the luck timeout thing is
14:32 <K2> tonight it'll be a new moon
14:33 <Umbire> It's still a new moon right now
14:33 <Umbire> so bad luck was from that
14:33 <Loggers_VIII> no luck penalty from new moon
14:33 <K2> oh its currently new moon time?
14:33 <Umbire> or, no, I'm mixing it with Friday the 13th
14:33 <Umbire> (again)
14:33 <Loggers_VIII> yeah
14:33 <Umbire> K2, but yes it is new moon time
14:33 <Umbire> until like, 8PM my time?
14:33 <Umbire> !moon
14:33 <Umbire> how does it not have that...
14:33 <Loggers_VIII> !pom
14:33 <Hecubus> Loggers_VIII: The moon is new for 1 more day.
14:33 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> wait you just said it was temporary???
14:33 <Umbire> Right, thank you
14:33 <K2> welp. you did something to make your luck negative
14:33 <Loggers_VIII> shrigis: yes, like it times out?
14:34 <K2> luck (good or bad) always times out
14:34 <Umbire> As in not applied to your base luck
14:34 <Loggers_VIII> you just lose one point of luck whenever you touch iron
14:34 <Umbire> iirc
14:34 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> a cursed luckstone gives temporary -3 luck
14:34 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> when you drop it you no longer have the -3 luck
14:35 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> is iron weilding iron the same way? yes or no?
14:35 <Loggers_VIII> no
14:35 <Loggers_VIII> you just lose one point of luck
14:35 <Umbire> luck items are modifiers to base luck, touching iron is a penalty (see also busting boulders in sokoban et. al.)
14:35 <Umbire> if that makes enough sense
14:36 <Loggers_VIII> it's not "while wielding iron, lose one point of luck", it's "when you wield iron, lose one point of luck", if that makes sense
14:36 <K2> in vanilla, having a luckstone in open inventory pauses the luck timeout. in evilhack, there's still a timeout, but its slows it down greatly
14:37 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> same as in pretty much every variant
14:38 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> i assumed the luck was only while touching the item
14:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3128 (0:20:42)
14:40 <Umbire> Alright, for player monster generation on Astral and such, specifically boots - it's object probability divided by the total probability for everything of that object type, right?
14:41 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> hey how come arrow traps can shoot arrows made of 1 material when you untrap the entire stack can sometimes be of a different (same) one?
14:42 <Loggers_VIII> they always coincidentally shoot out the different material arrows first leaving you with a neat stack of same-material ones
14:42 <Umbire> object generation quirks
14:42 <Umbire> just run with it
14:42 <Loggers_VIII> it would be neat if traps like that had a set mat for the projectiles, but idk how hard that'd be to do
14:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:3512 (0:25:48)
14:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:13619 (3:18:25)
14:48 <terrapin> i know there's some variant that has uniform stacks from projectile traps, but i forget which
14:50 <terrapin> oh it's xnethack
14:54 <K2> prob wouldnt be a bad idea to incorporate that
14:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping an amulet of reflection on an altar, on T:4680 (0:36:49)
14:55 <K2> back in a bit
14:55 <terrapin> yeah
14:58 <Umbire> Speaking of incorporating stuff, what do you think a variant based on 3.6.7 Absolutely Needs in terms of cherry-picked commits
14:59 <Noisytoot> dnethack does too
14:59 <Loggers_VIII> paranoid water and displace peacefuls, for a start
15:00 <Loggers_VIII> re: 3.6.7 variant
15:00 <Umbire> I'll displace you
15:00 * Umbire pushes
15:00 <Umbire> (unless you give me a commit I can cherry-pick :B)
15:00 * Loggers_VIII gets angry!
15:00 <Loggers_VIII> reality is still based on 3.6.7
15:00 <Umbire> I mean I did also explicitly push you
15:01 <Noisytoot> why base on 3.6.7?
15:01 <rebatela> i'd be lost without paranoid water. I just like to slap my fat hands around as fast as possible 
15:01 <Loggers_VIII> that's a better question, 3.7 is peak
15:01 <Loggers_VIII> rebatela omg same
15:01 <Loggers_VIII> :P
15:02 <rebatela> i thought about dieting or actually paying attention, but it was easier to just cry and get the rules changed
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15:02 <Noisytoot> where does set_trap_ammo come from? dnethack and xnethack have it, but vanilla and evilhack don't
15:03 <Umbire> Loggers_VIII, familiarity in terms of code + latest stable, felt like it was sufficient for my needs
15:04 <Umbire> Not remotely opposed to something 3.7-based
15:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Hob Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:18370 (12:10:40)
15:06 <Umbire> just that I'm still learning the nethack code as it is :B
15:06 <terrapin> Noisytoot: this and other commits: https://github.com/copperwater/xNetHack/commit/ab9223321849e425084da1f62954b9375dbb1bef
15:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 3795 points, T:2634, quit
15:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:7087 (2:34:56)
15:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 582 points, T:799, killed by the Goblin King
15:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha), 7751 points, T:5963, killed by a piranha
15:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Inf Ith Mal Una), 346 points, T:741, poisoned by a rotted goblin corpse, while helpless
15:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1240 (0:07:13)
15:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 2632 points, T:1601, killed by an orcish arrow
15:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:7936 (2:49:45)
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15:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1314 (0:08:20)
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15:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha), 1356 points, T:1631, killed by a rock gnome
15:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:979 (0:05:15)
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15:40 <dingotron> I guess I don't understand yet how blessed scrolls of genocide work in evil.  When you try to geno a specific monster with a blessed scroll what is the expected result? I tried to geno master mindflayers, but it wiped out regular ones and not the masters, which was... inconvenient. Did I make a typo, or do blessed scrolls not actually allow you to
15:40 <dingotron> be specific?
15:40 <Umbire> Blessed scrolls are class specific
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15:40 <Loggers_VIII> they don't allow you to be specific. it genocides two random monsters from one class
15:40 <Umbire> in vanilla it wipes out all monsters of a given letter
15:40 <Umbire> in evil, what Loggers_VIII said
15:40 <Loggers_VIII> if you want to genocide one monster in specific, use uncursed scrolls
15:45 <terrapin> blessed genocide is rarely useful. it's nice for taking out all the liches in two scrolls, but most genocide-worthy monsters share a class with with harmless ones (relevant here is mind flayers & dwarves)
15:48 <Loggers_VIII> I think blessed genocide could stand to be a little better
15:49 <Loggers_VIII> idk how though
15:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering a gnomish wizard corpse on an altar of Lolth, on T:3065 (0:23:00)
15:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) had a pair of dark elven bracers entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:3065 (0:23:00)
16:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:84761 (2 days, 13:40:36)
16:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha), 7896 points, T:4459, killed by a giant cockroach
16:08 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> it should probably wipe out the specified one plus a random one
16:08 <mobileuser> peaceful giant priestess of Mog
16:09 <mobileuser> woohoo, holy water machine
16:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:84874 (2 days, 13:48:16)
16:13 <mobileuser> ah, if you try to displace a peaceful priest, they briefly become scared
16:14 <mobileuser> that could explain some unfortunate accidents in previous games
16:14 <terrapin> no way! that does explain a lot
16:15 <terrapin> i've always felt that if you #chat in a direction without someone there it should scare nearby peacefuls
16:15 <terrapin> add some stakes to protection racketing
16:16 <mobileuser> heheh
16:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha), 941 points, T:1099, killed by the Goblin King
16:18 <Umbire> "You stop! <x> is in the way" has the monster become scared so it'll attempt to move out of your path
16:19 <mobileuser> or "X doesn't want to exchange places"
16:19 <mobileuser> it's also funny how demon lords become angry if they try to chat to you, but they can't quite place where you are
16:20 <Noisytoot> dnethack devel removed that scared priest becoming hostile interaction
16:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha), 494 points, T:744, killed by a magic missile
16:21 <mobileuser> shambling horror in the distance on level 15 already... going to avoid that for some time
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16:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha), 169 points, T:508, zapped himself with a maple wand
16:29 <dingotron> thanks for clarification. I thought it would be at least as specific as an uncursed scroll. Like I was hoping it would geno the named monster then either give you nothing more, or 1 other random more from same class.
16:29 <mobileuser> killed by wand of light
16:30 <dingotron> I get that evil wanted to nerf blessed genocide a little, but agree that it could use some more thought
16:31 <mobileuser> amazingly, that info seems to be missing on the evilhack page
16:31 <mobileuser> todo noted
16:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1472 (0:06:50)
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16:33 <mobileuser> K2 death reason "zapped himself with a maple wand" seems wrong. Shrigis was writing with it.
16:34 <krm26> i kinda think genocide is still too good, and blessed genocide should genocide one monster (or one random monster if you enter a class), and uncursed genocide should genocide one random monster from a class or from the class the monster you named belongs to
16:35 <krm26> makes early throne genocide slightly less good
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16:35 <mobileuser> some variants do: blessed = 1 monster dungeon wide, uncursed = 1 monster on the level
16:35 <krm26> that would be a good nerf as well
16:36 <mobileuser> and sometimes uncursed is still useful in that case
16:36 <krm26> although uncursed might as well be one class on the level at that point
16:36 <mobileuser> eg for a pesky black dragon in the early game
16:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha), 2693 points, T:2210, killed by a magic missile
16:41 <Noisytoot> krm26: that would be bad (a dwarf selects "mind flayer" as a throne genocide, random h gets selected, dwarves get genocided)
16:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:959 (0:05:48)
16:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arcusmagus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2498 (0:16:03)
16:46 <mobileuser> Can you actually geno your own monster type in evilhack?
16:49 <mobileuser> eg there are no living "dwarf" monsters, but there are mountain dwarfs etc.
16:50 <terrapin> yes
16:50 <mobileuser> ah ok
16:50 <terrapin> there are still dwarf/orc/etc monsters defined, they just don't get generated
16:51 <mobileuser> that's what made me wonder
16:51 <K2> only thing i need to decouple are hobbits
16:53 <K2> heya krm26 long time no see
16:53 <K2> was thinking about you when we were in FL a couple weeks ago. visited the aquarium in tampa
16:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Ran Dro Mal Cha), 2066 points, T:2617, killed by a jellyfish
16:57 <rld> Shrigis said:
16:57 <rld> !lastgame
16:57 <Hecubus> rld: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Shrigis/evilhack/dumplog/1710275882.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/post163/evilhack/dumplog/1710121309.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/l/leafG/evilhack/dumplog/1709419086.evil.html
16:57 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> that level had no down stairs
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16:57 <Loggers_VIII> I kind of doubt it
16:58 <terrapin> sometimes they're off in a corner among the water
16:58 <Loggers_VIII> probably just in some shit spot next to a water square
16:58 <dingotron> If a weapon happens to be tethered to you, shouldn't that make it harder to steal?
16:58 <dingotron> It's like having your wallet on a chain
16:59 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> i checked the water too
16:59 <rld> <Shrigis> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204191497331810338/1217215438191202475/image.png?ex=66033737&is=65f0c237&hm=a9a2837b51603afed0b60fb42a0d92f44c0e12532780478d21e94af866a57c9f&
16:59 <Loggers_VIII> unless you magic mapped the level I'm certain there was a stair in some lame spot you didn't check
17:00 <Loggers_VIII> I've also had levels like that
17:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1531 (0:37:07)
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17:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 3002 points, T:2651, killed by a giant spider, while praying
17:18 <dingotron> If you push a boulder onto a landmine, does the landmine go off?
17:19 <Umbire> Yes
17:20 <Umbire> I think
17:20 <Umbire> I know for sure it goes off if it rolls over one
17:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arcusmagus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3501 (0:50:52)
17:27 <dingotron> do polearms not work over boulders in evilhack?
17:29 <Noisytoot> they don't in vanilla either
17:29 <dingotron> oh weird, I thought they did
17:30 <dingotron> anyway, my boulderfort plus lucern hammer of fire strategy for taking out master liches on Kas level is going to need some rethinking
17:32 <Umbire> You have to be able to see the target square to pound at it
17:36 <dingotron> Ok a little hammer of the gods, and some alkys tossing took care of that first wave of liches
17:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Hob Fem Neu) had a long sword entrusted to her by Mog, on T:18908 (12:40:05)
17:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:47873 (1 day, 11:49:52)
17:49 <dingotron> Rip Kas
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18:05 <mobileuser> nice
18:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arcusmagus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:7721 (2:04:59)
18:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:639 (0:03:53)
18:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:697 (0:04:16)
18:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Law), 2287 points, T:1270, killed by a hill orc called Thosogakhog of Ogthosubane
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18:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "the blessed master key of thievery", on T:9232 (2:10:25)
19:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1041 (0:04:49)
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19:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arcusmagus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:9740 (2:39:00)
19:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 6533 points, T:2367, diseased by a gnome zombie
19:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arcusmagus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) destroyed mitsilvan's ghost, the former Bachelor, on T:10548 (2:54:24)
19:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vecna, on T:49065 (1 day, 12:47:04)
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19:27 <dingotron> got the hand
19:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:496 (0:05:04)
19:30 <K2> woop
19:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:12704 (4:43:34)
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19:45 <dingotron> hmm should I wear the hand? after blowing up mjolnir (oops) I could use some extra damage bonus. But then I'd need to figure out which other slots to give up for reflection and acid resistance instead of dragonbane.
19:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 5062 points, T:2070, killed by a piranha
19:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:49073 (1 day, 13:08:58)
19:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:306 (0:02:52)
19:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) genocided alhoons, on T:49075 (1 day, 13:10:35)
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19:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) wished for "fixed magic marker", on T:49079 (1 day, 13:14:00)
19:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:49082 (1 day, 13:14:48)
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19:59 <dingotron> vecna's throne taunted me with 15 "you feel out of place" in a row then puff of smoke
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20:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 2950 points, T:1400, killed by a bolt of lightning
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20:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13483 (2:51:08)
20:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arcusmagus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 32477 points, T:17703, killed by a barbed devil of Moloch
20:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had a javelin entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:14056 (3:08:18)
20:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:14127 (3:09:20)
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20:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had a large shield entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:15122 (3:16:44)
20:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:17114 (3:22:51)
21:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:922 (0:13:33)
21:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12865 (4:47:07)
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21:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3063 (0:31:55)
21:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 9790 points, T:3092, killed by a dwarf lord
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21:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 275 points, T:596, killed by dipping into a forge
21:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:469 (0:03:21)
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22:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 2548 points, T:1402, killed by a gnome lady
22:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a spotted jelly, on T:20324 (4:53:40)
22:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Mon Dro Fem Cha), 119847 points, T:22255, killed by an earth elemental
22:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arcusmagus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 347 points, T:933, killed by the Goblin King
22:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arcusmagus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 49 points, T:174, killed by a fox
22:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arcusmagus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 575 points, T:1218, killed by a hobgoblin
23:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arcusmagus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1784 (0:09:41)
23:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +3 gray dragon scales", on T:21962 (5:31:33)
23:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:19219 (6:27:28)
23:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arcusmagus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:3906 (0:23:47)
23:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arcusmagus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering killer bee corpses on an altar of Ptah, on T:4637 (0:28:50)
23:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:24015 (5:45:05)
23:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:24469 (5:48:14)
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23:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Arcusmagus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) destroyed mitsilvan's ghost, the former Bachelor, on T:6517 (0:45:00)
23:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Ixoth, on T:26132 (6:07:37)
23:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26134 (6:07:41)
23:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) completed his quest without incident, on T:26683 (6:13:59)