00:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] FIQ (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 107 points, T:622, killed by a falling object
00:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of power entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:2564 (0:32:58)
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00:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had 19 shuriken entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:2725 (0:39:08)
00:35 <dingotron83> Umbire ya. I am guessing that anything pointy or edged is a bad idea. Not sure what's blunt that isn't already unlocked.
00:38 <Umbire> Get an extra skill point you want in that case?
00:39 <dingotron83> ya maybe
00:42 <dingotron83> also found a bones file with a tin of gray dragon meat in inventory. Is that... particularly useful? I was pretty sure gray dragons give no intrinsics
00:44 <Umbire> nah, might be a keepsake or s/t
00:50 <dingotron83> hmm
00:52 <dingotron83> At least I got MoJo, a much-needed source of magic resistance, and a wand of death out of those bones. Thank you dbanethacker!
00:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of protection entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:4385 (0:57:18)
00:56 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> K2 wizards should maybe not start with a scroll of magic detection
00:59 <dingotron83> blessed scrolls of magic detection are still useful for wizards
01:00 <Umbire> it's a pretty mild redundancy and the blessed scroll IDs magical items
01:00 <Umbire> uncursed still maps the items as well
01:00 <Umbire> non-cursed*
01:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:25768 (13:58:21)
01:04 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> ah I thought it just told you magical items in inventory
01:04 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> nvm then
01:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had a pair of glass gauntlets of power entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:5305 (1:09:32)
01:06 <dingotron83> took me while to understand that scroll, now I realize it's a great shortcut for ID full inventory of scrolls. potions, rings etc when blessed
01:10 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> why is this gnome afraid of my eggs
01:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] FIQ (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 344 points, T:1682, killed by a gas spore's explosion
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01:14 <Umbire> Oz reference 
01:15 <Umbire> Gnomes in Evil and xnh are allergic to eggs
01:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire noble, on T:4576 (1:04:46)
01:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had a pair of steel gauntlets entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:6937 (1:30:01)
01:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:7545 (1:43:31)
01:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of power entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:8006 (1:49:28)
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02:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:12798 (3:00:50)
03:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) destroyed fsbt490's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:15459 (3:38:40)
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03:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 30460 points, T:16068, killed by a shadow dragon
03:51 <mobileuser> unlucky poly trap
03:52 <Umbire> F
03:53 <mobileuser> at least time I was really unlucky :-)
03:54 <mobileuser> previous splat was avoidable with hindsight
03:54 <mobileuser> * this time
03:54 <mobileuser> I'll add some drow weapons to the evilhack page later today
03:55 <mobileuser> Haven't gone through all of them yet, but I will put up what I already have
04:00 <Umbire> Aye
04:00 <Umbire> We need to get drow stuff touched up in general
04:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:17055 (4:08:48)
04:15 <mobileuser> ok, added some drow weapons. checking what's left...
04:17 <Umbire> +1
04:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:1206 (0:05:22)
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04:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2644 points, T:2121, diseased by an orc zombie, while frozen by a potion
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06:07 <mobileuser> I'm not sure if drow get the same bonuses for using a dark elven bow (or crossbow) as elves get for an elven bow
06:07 <mobileuser> Will have to ask K2
06:11 <Umbire> Noted
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07:05 <mobileuser> bleh, large spider already on level 3, little dog just saved me. I wonder if there is a spider room on the level.
07:07 <mobileuser> yeah, next came a cave spider...
07:08 <mobileuser> run away!!
07:11 <Umbire> poison res tho!
07:12 <Umbire> also mobileuser, Tal'Gath always leaves a corpse, right?
07:13 <mobileuser> seems to in my games, but I haven't checked
07:13 <Umbire> Huge and larger always leave corpses iirc
07:14 <mobileuser> yeah
07:14 <Umbire> so if that's true then it checks out
07:19 <mobileuser> another large spider, haven't found out yet where these thing are coming from
07:20 <mobileuser> 1 dagger hit my pet, but I had no choice really
07:20 <mobileuser> "The little dog eats a large spider corpse. The little dog looks healthy"
07:21 <mobileuser> well good for you little dog
07:21 <Umbire> yeah large spiders are safe poison res
07:22 <Umbire> might be that a cave spider from a group gained a level
07:22 <Umbire> large spiders gen in groups also I think
07:22 <mobileuser> ah...
07:22 <mobileuser> there were zombies
07:23 <mobileuser> maybe some cave spiders gained levels
07:23 <mobileuser> that's more likely
07:23 <Umbire> mhm
07:23 <Umbire> I know it's a portion of weight that determines how much res you get but what was the equation exactly
07:23 <Umbire> looking at the code says x/90
07:24 <Umbire> terrapin, that right?^
07:24 <mobileuser> if it was me, I would use the vanilla percentage divided by 2 instead of weight
07:26 <Umbire> like, implementation-wise or when trying to calculate for Evil? :B
07:27 <Umbire> fire giant corpse gives 25% fire res
07:27 <Umbire> weight is... 
07:27 <Umbire> 2250
07:28 <Umbire> vanilla/2 comes out to the same in that case
07:28 <Umbire> I might keep it in mind to test for consistency but I can't do that for Tal'Gath (which is who I'm working on atm)
07:29 <K2> <mobileuser> I'm not sure if drow get the same bonuses for using a dark elven bow (or crossbow) as elves get for an elven bow <--- they do
07:29 <K2> look in src/dothrow.c
07:29 <Umbire> feel a bit like beholders should give slight disint res
07:32 <mobileuser> thx K2
07:34 <K2> https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2475/source
07:42 <mobileuser> heheh "The little dog eats a large kobold corpse" already profiting from its poison res
08:12 <mobileuser> oh K2 can a dark elven bow break if you fire arrows whilst in the light?
08:12 <mobileuser> I suppose not, but better be sure
08:16 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> gotta hit stuff with it I think
08:18 <Umbire> ab Loggers_VIII
08:18 <Umbire> forgot the @ lol
08:19 <mobileuser> ab! yeah that's what I thought too, but this game makes me paranoid ;-)
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08:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) destroyed mightyquinn's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:6286 (1:30:16)
08:25 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> ab!
08:30 <K2> <mobileuser> oh K2 can a dark elven bow break if you fire arrows whilst in the light? <--- no
08:31 <mobileuser> check
08:31 <K2> using it as a melee weapon in the light will break it
08:32 <mobileuser> same for dark elven hand crossbow I assume, which means that is actually a nice weapon for other races too
08:32 <K2> si
08:38 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> can you dual wield hand crossbows?
08:40 <K2> hah
08:41 <K2> i've never tried
08:42 <K2> yes you can
08:42 <K2> but i'm pretty sure you're only firing from your primary
08:42 <K2> it looks cool though
08:42 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> aww
08:43 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> if you have a hand crossbow of fire or something does the extra damage proc when you bash stuff with it
08:43 <K2> launchers dont get obj prop
08:44 <mobileuser> oh I see dark elven hand crossbow has a shorter range
08:44 <mobileuser> makes sense
08:46 <Umbire> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Beholder_(EvilHack)
08:57 <mobileuser> what a rabbit hole... now I wonder if the damage bonus for Elves and Samurai using their own bows/ammo was removed in 3.6
08:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Odin, on T:10000 (2:05:57)
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09:11 <Umbire> It was multishot, I don't think they ever got damage bonuses
09:16 <mobileuser> multishot and to hit as far as I can see
09:16 <mobileuser> wiki claims +1 damage for elven bow/elven arrow
09:17 <mobileuser> but I don't think that's true
09:17 <mobileuser> at least not in 3.6
09:17 <Umbire> https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.7_Released/src/uhitm.c#L848
09:18 <Umbire> remembered once I spotted the citation
09:18 <mobileuser> ok, checking for evilhack...
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09:27 <mobileuser> ok, looks like the dark elven bow / dark elven arrow gets the damage bonus, but not dark elven crossbow / dark elven bolt
09:37 <mobileuser> I think I added all the new drow weapons now
09:40 <Umbire> after sleep and exercise I'll probably get on them
09:41 <K2> they dont? hmm
09:42 <K2> yeah they do
09:43 <K2> oh i see where you're looking
09:43 <mobileuser> https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/04a05fd47b890dad7ed6fd7794b20f46fcde8de7/src/uhitm.c#L1386
09:44 <K2> yeah
09:44 <K2> there's another bit in weapon.c
09:44 <K2> in dmgval()
09:44 <mobileuser>  /o\
09:44 <K2> welp... this is unsatisfactory. everyone stop playing
09:45 <K2> :P
09:45 <mobileuser> !who
09:45 <Hecubus> mobileuser: [hdf-us] No current players :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players
09:45 <mobileuser> heh
09:45 <K2> hah
09:45 <mobileuser> huh
09:47 <K2> err
09:49 <mobileuser> which line in dmgval()? I see nothing specific for dark elven crossbows?
09:51 <K2> not crossbows, but their ammo
09:51 <K2> look at line 362
09:51 <K2> in weapon.c
09:52 <mobileuser> oh, extra damage vs big monsters?
09:52 <K2> brb
10:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Hob Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2804 (1:23:26)
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10:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Hob Mal Neu) had a mithril small shield entrusted to him by Mog, on T:4087 (2:08:32)
10:58 <mobileuser> noice
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11:04 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> morning
11:07 <mobileuser> Good day to thee!
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12:04 <K2> heya @fredriq
12:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu), 25924 points, T:13491, burned by molten lava
12:13 <K2> ooof
12:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 14 points, T:65, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted water moccasin
12:14 <K2> !lastgame
12:14 <Hecubus> K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1709745180.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/evilhack/dumplog/1709716863.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/l/leafG/evilhack/dumplog/1709419086.evil.html
12:14 <K2> hah damn
12:16 <mobileuser> https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1709692366.evil.html
12:16 <K2> :(
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12:49 <mobileuser> "While engraving, your hand slips. You engrave: "Stinc"."
12:50 <mobileuser> does that mean Sting already exists somewhere?
12:51 <Noisytoot> yes
12:51 <mobileuser> damn...
13:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] FIQ (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 7 points, T:11, killed by a crossbow bolt
13:09 <K2> 'stink' would have funnier
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13:16 <mobileuser> nearly!
13:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] FIQ (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1532 (0:15:45)
13:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:1272 (0:38:50)
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13:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2174 points, T:2724, killed by a fall onto poison spikes
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13:39 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> hmm, a magical lamp
13:39 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> nice
13:42 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> heh, cursed ones give off darkness. Helpful for drows, but I am not one 😛
13:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] FIQ (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3967 (0:51:16)
13:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] FIQ (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 5158 points, T:4577, killed by a bolt of lightning
13:59 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> I didn't know books could teach you literacy
14:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 399091 points, T:44904, killed by a blast of disintegration
14:01 <rebatela> !lastgame
14:01 <Hecubus> rebatela: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/F/FIQ/evilhack/dumplog/1709748071.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1706459936.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/l/leafG/evilhack/dumplog/1709419086.evil.html
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14:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:711 (0:32:57)
14:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1977 points, T:3013, poisoned by a gnome zombie
14:15 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> K2: how come containers aren't affected by menucolors unlike the inventory in dumplogs?
14:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 303 points, T:944, killed by a giant mimic
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14:42 <K2> @fredriq i dont know? I wasnt aware there was a problem
14:45 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> it's not a major issue or anything
14:46 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> just a small inconsistency 😛
14:53 <rebatela> oic so fiq must have gotten the bones for the guy with the fumble boots slipping on the pony 
14:53 <rebatela> because i saw that grave but no ghost and now fiq's ghost 
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14:54 <rebatela> i tamed the nightmare, named him jo
14:55 <rebatela> sweet so cloak of MR! 
14:55 <rebatela> this is a much better start i'm having! Got flying, unholy water, mr very early 
14:59 <rebatela> also altar and general store and now these bones. 
14:59 <rebatela> something BAD Is gonna happen....
15:08 <K2> @fredriq gotcha
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15:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 3276 points, T:3471, killed by a dwarf lord
15:10 <rebatela> i wanted his armor. i couldn't hit him 
15:11 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> rebatela: yeah I did, why? was there an issue with the bones
15:11 <rebatela> no 
15:11 <rebatela> i was just confused at first because i found where he had slipped on the pony but no bones
15:11 <rebatela> then i got to your ghost  
15:11 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> ah I might have looted it 😛
15:12 <rebatela> now i just hopefulyl left them on the same level so someone will be confused again lol
15:13 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> haha
15:13 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> I wonder if existing bones levels are more likely to leave chain bones
15:13 <rebatela> not sure although it definitely seems that way 
15:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4344 (0:56:14)
15:21 <rebatela> !lastgame rebatela
15:21 <Hecubus> rebatela: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1709751786.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1663704988.evil.html
15:21 <K2> @fredriq bones beahvior would be the same as vanilla in that regard
15:21 <K2> *behavior
15:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:20037 (5:07:17)
15:36 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> hopeful feeling pff
15:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:3046 (1:26:32)
15:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] FIQ (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 326 points, T:1763, killed by a dart
15:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:3375 (1:32:16)
15:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a helm of brilliance entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:4459 (1:39:19)
16:10 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> hmm looking at object materials, what are the values for real life materials based on?
16:10 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> wouldn't platinum be a rather terrible choice for armor in real life? 😛
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16:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] FIQ (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 105 points, T:2121, killed by the Goblin King
16:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 2076 points, T:4314, poisoned by a snake
16:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:21593 (6:01:39)
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16:27 <Vic> Really basic question: does TH in status line mean "To Hit?"
16:30 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> how much damage does Psionic Wave do?
16:31 <rebatela> oh man i got that bones level!
16:32 <rebatela> that dwarf lord is gonna mess me up again if i go there but i gotta get the bones if this is really it. i'm pretty sure
16:32 <rebatela> !lastgame rebatela
16:32 <Hecubus> rebatela: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1709751786.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1663704988.evil.html
16:32 <rebatela> yep this is it
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16:35 <rebatela> ahhh dammit and i died in the dungeon
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16:35 <rebatela> so now that lvl is lost 
16:35 <Noisytoot> Vic: yes
16:35 <Vic>  Noisytoot Thanks!
16:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had a pair of copper gauntlets entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:23375 (6:19:14)
16:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Hea Elf Fem Neu), 523 points, T:1653, killed by the Goblin King
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16:52 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> 600wt cap for illithids before gop/etc
16:52 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> heh
17:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had 20 shuriken entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:25533 (6:42:24)
17:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] FIQ (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3113 (0:49:54)
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17:12 <mobileuser>  20 shuriken, wow
17:12 <mobileuser> same as the limit for a wish
17:13 <mobileuser> Chih Sung-tzu is generous for parasite
17:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] FIQ (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 3835 points, T:3600, killed by an electric shock
17:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) became Chih Sung-tzu's Envoy of Balance, on T:27147 (6:55:56)
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17:34 <K2> nice
17:34 <K2> looks like parasite is having a decent run
17:34 <K2> FIQ stop using thrones until you improve your luck :P
17:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3629 (0:25:01)
17:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3632 (0:25:07)
17:58 <rebatela> yeah i usually annotate  throne and go back 
18:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Nalzok, on T:26728 (14:40:46)
18:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26794 (14:47:05)
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18:14 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> K2: that was not a throne
18:14 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> but a chest trap
18:15 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> been killed by 3 of them so far lol
18:15 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> also got zapped with a wand of lightning a while back
18:15 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> my wizards seem to have a bit of an electrical issue
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18:16 <rebatela> i've been getting screwed by chest and random traps as well 
18:17 <Umbire> The throne would've said "electric chair"
18:17 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> yep
18:17 <rebatela> have traps become more common? It's annoying I'll search like 4or 5 times and not find the trap  and then boom 
18:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Fem Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:73135 (14:34:16)
18:17 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> earlygame chest traps always felt a bit bs to me but w/e 😛
18:17 <rebatela> also i know it goes by level? like if you carry a chest from DL 1 down to DL 3 you have better chance of disarming? somethingj like that 
18:17 <dingotron74> sigh. once again I have accidentally 'seriously abused alignment' before completing quest. Can't say I love that new game mechanic.
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18:18 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> at least evil doesn't have dynahack's ramped up magical property chances of projectiles
18:18 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> was always fun to be oneshot by a dart of detonation on dlvl3
18:18 <Umbire> that's been a mechanic for a few versions now
18:18 <Umbire> also legit what are you doing
18:18 <rebatela> i always just kill the quest leader and then make it up to god with sacrifices
18:19 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> IMO chest traps, whatever else is done to them, ought to "remember" if you've tried to untrap them
18:19 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> you should only get one attempt, as to avoid encouraging people to #untrap them like 10 times
18:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Fem Cha) had a cloak of displacement entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:73280 (14:36:31)
18:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] SludgeGunkman (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 233 points, T:920, zombified by a diseased kobold corpse
18:20 <Umbire> I feel like that's a good way to make people just not bother
18:23 <rebatela> I just feel like i put in all the effort to search for the trap and then try to disarm and get punished the same as if i just tried to open it 
18:23 <rebatela> and yeah if you go back to to the chest you won't find the trap again on the first try! you should remmber it 
18:25 <terrapin> you don't try to disarm traps because you think it will work, you do it so you can feel properly annoyed at the game when they go off anyway
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18:31 <Umbire> I always untrap like 10 times as a matter of principle
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18:33 <dingotron19> ya i never bother to search for traps. It would be waaay too tedious to play always checking chests and doors first. So instead you just end up taking the random punishment.
18:35 <dingotron19> oof. speaking of abusing alignment. I haven't played as a human in ages. So ofc (on mental autopilot) I just tried eating a tin of nurse meat, and sacrificing a wererat in fairly rapid succession.... These were not good ideas.
18:38 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> but what if you wanted to aggravate monsters? 😛
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18:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] FIQ (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 0 points, T:114, killed by an arrow
18:40 <Umbire> yeah idk what you expected at that point
18:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:74288 (14:56:45)
18:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] FIQ (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 210 points, T:1545, killed by a sewer rat, while fainted from lack of food
18:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had 18 shuriken entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:31344 (8:29:57)
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18:52 <Vic> have cauchemar's, or even herbivore's specifically, resistances gained from corpses been nerfed?
18:53 <Vic> I've fed numerous cauchmar's several blue jellies, red molds, brown molds, and they never get any resistance from them
18:53 <Vic> even early in the game when I know for a fact they've not encountered any of those yet
18:53 <Vic> furthermore, I keep my pets close to me
18:55 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> huh, I thought that pets always get 100% resist from an eligible corpse but maybe not
18:56 <terrapin> when things can give multiple resistances there's an equal chance of each
18:56 <terrapin> molds and jellies giving poison resistance to a nightmare would have no effect or message
18:57 <terrapin> but it's very unlucky for it to happen several times in a row
18:57 <Vic> I am aware of cauchemar's posion resistance.
18:58 <Vic> Should still get cold resist.
18:58 <Vic> Did not know that they could get multiple from one corspe, though!
18:58 <terrapin> they can't
18:59 <terrapin> it's an either/or
18:59 <Vic> oh, equal chance of each
18:59 <terrapin> sorry, i wasn't very clear
18:59 <Vic> yah.
18:59 <Vic> got excited for flesh golem corpses for one thick second
19:01 <Umbire> yeah you're running on a fairly lowish chance from feeding them molds/jellies
19:02 <Vic> Seems it should only be low for omnivores.
19:02 <Vic> I mean, herbivores only eat veg, so . . .   :)
19:05 <Umbire> that doesn't really scan but eh
19:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] FIQ (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 208 points, T:2272, killed by a gas spore's explosion
19:07 <terrapin> okay this has got to be on purpose :P
19:09 <Vic> it is the only way they can get resistances. Carnivores get resistances fairly reliably.
19:10 <terrapin> (i was referring to FIQ's several gas spore/cloud deaths)
19:10 <terrapin> re: herbivores i feel like it's a reasonable downside for them being such good mounts in general
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19:18 <Vic> (I was referring to Umbire) :)  I knew tha twas FIQ
19:18 <Vic> Really? I am constantly having either horses or cauchemars die easy deaths. Even woolly mammoths die fairly easily.eeee
19:19 <K2> <Vic> have cauchemar's, or even herbivore's specifically, resistances gained from corpses been nerfed? <--- no
19:20 <Umbire> you have to actively maintain your steed's HP and not leave them to deal with stuff like zombies et. al. on their own
19:20 <Umbire> also remember that when riding attacks can fall upon your steed if they miss you
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20:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a large cave lizard, on T:34800 (10:10:15)
20:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6516 (2:09:02)
20:35 <Umbire> alright, drow stuff, drow stuff...
20:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu), 115247 points, T:34819, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster
20:37 <Umbire> F
21:05 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> terrapin: no, typo death
21:05 <rld> <FIQ [@fredriq]> like floating eyes
22:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:9252 (2:36:33)
22:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5749 (0:57:38)
22:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5841 (0:59:15)
22:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 32235 points, T:10660, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster
23:03 <terrapin> dang that sucks @fredriq :(
23:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Hum (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:44936 (21:04:36)
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23:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 16398 points, T:8660, killed by Lolth, while sleeping
23:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Hum (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had a pair of steel kicking boots entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:45613 (21:20:12)
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23:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2755 (0:25:08)
23:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:738 (0:35:13)