00:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:11803 (1:01:45)
00:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Scringe's ghost, the former Brute, on T:12943 (1:13:56)
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00:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Hum (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Aphrodite, on T:20492 (5:46:47)
00:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible karibou's ghost, the former Brute, on T:15077 (1:30:38)
01:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Scringe's ghost, the former Brute, on T:17207 (2:00:31)
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02:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 360 points, T:831, killed by a gnome queen
02:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2241 (0:21:23)
03:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una), 5211 points, T:4359, fell into a pit
03:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una), 692 points, T:1391, killed by a rothe
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06:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] SludgeGunkman (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 257 points, T:1156, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food
06:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1786 (0:33:10)
07:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4275 (1:11:34)
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08:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1351 points, T:3390, killed by a gnome queen
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08:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:2470 (0:16:34)
08:41 <mobileuser> bleh, sewers again
08:46 <mobileuser> looks like I'm lucky with the placements of the stones
08:53 <mobileuser> hah I got a crude spear out of a spear trap
08:53 <mobileuser> because my luck is still zero :-)
08:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Hob Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14394 (9:52:37)
08:55 <mobileuser> ...and there is my luck
08:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law), 2931 points, T:4798, killed by a giant leech
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09:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Hob Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:14752 (10:14:05)
09:15 <mobileuser> thank you smoky fruit juice!
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09:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law) became literate by engraving "bob", on T:3067 (0:31:57)
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09:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Hob Mal Neu) had a mithril scimitar entrusted to him by Mog, on T:14837 (10:21:40)
09:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had a mithril dwarvish spear entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:20023 (2:45:20)
09:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:20164 (2:47:19)
09:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of low boots entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:20192 (2:47:39)
09:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Hob Mal Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon him by Mog, on T:14997 (10:30:38)
09:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha) averted death (suffocated by a water elemental), on T:21700 (2:55:36)
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09:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Issek, on T:5368 (0:53:52)
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10:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:391 (0:02:31)
10:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law) had a blessed cloak of invisibility entrusted to her by Issek, on T:9230 (1:03:49)
10:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:433 (0:03:10)
10:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:9381 (1:05:54)
10:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:9743 (1:08:39)
10:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law), 9389 points, T:9935, killed by a piranha, while frozen by a trap
10:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:718 (0:03:20)
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12:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2150 (0:27:37)
12:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:7288 (0:50:15)
12:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2486 (0:32:02)
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12:19 <rebatela> always a sign of a slow start when i might be reaching XL14 naturally.. 
12:19 <rebatela> do you still have to be 14 in vanilla? 
12:19 <mobileuser> I think so
12:19 <Umbire> 3.7 makes it so quest leaders dying doesn't make the game unwinnable
12:20 <Umbire> And buffs them a la Spork (often times exactly LIKE Spork)
12:20 <Umbire> so if you're REALLY desperate or impatient you could kill 'em
12:21 <rebatela> i still haven't figured out what happened to minetown priest
12:21 <rebatela> i'm sure y'all were up all night wondering 
12:22 <Umbire> well not ALL night
12:22 <Umbire> but yeah, still no trail on that?
12:22 <rebatela> I'd care a lot more if i thought i was going to be able to find him tied up and be able to buy protection (or maybe even GIVEN protection for saving him)
12:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Athena, on T:8341 (1:01:34)
12:23 <rebatela> no temples in dungeon so can't buy AC until valley or kathryn 
12:40 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> hey Janis is playing evil
12:46 <mobileuser> \o/
12:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 116 points, T:792, killed by a boulder
12:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law), 17347 points, T:11100, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster
12:54 <K2> hi
12:54 <Hecubus> Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack
12:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 2267 points, T:3245, killed by an enormous rat
12:59 <Umbire> ab K2
13:03 <K2> hi
13:03 <Hecubus> Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack
13:03 <K2> oh
13:03 <K2> hai
13:03 <K2> 12+ hrs round trip drive in the rain and fog for a 15 min appointment
13:04 <rebatela> backscroll: <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> hey Janis is playing evil      FOR REAL?
13:04 <K2> they started playing again?
13:04 <K2> hahah
13:06 <rebatela> do people still post on usenet re: nethack? 
13:06 <Umbire> 'course they do
13:06 <Umbire> I haven't checked in a good while though
13:06 <rebatela> i kinda feel like we are for the most part here 
13:07 <Umbire> Can feel that way, yeah
13:07 <Umbire> Funny tangent: you can wish for a normal mummified hand and 'wear' it with no ill effect
13:07 <rebatela> or reddit kinda serves any purpose lacking
13:08 <rebatela> but back in the day, usenet was the only way i ever heard about the game (and janis was the most annoying person on the planet)
13:09 <Umbire> the more things change, eh?
13:09 <rebatela> they used to stack bones against them (which looking back is kinda cruel)
13:09 <rebatela> but it was deserved 
13:09 <K2> they do but there's even less traffic now since google stopped supporting usenet
13:10 <rebatela> they would go down the stairs on DL4 and be met with 4 arch liches etc. 
13:10 <rebatela> ahh ok 
13:10 <rebatela> it used to be deja or something?
13:10 <rebatela> then google groups
13:10 <Umbire> Still google groups
13:11 <Umbire> sorta
13:11 <Umbire> "Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable."
13:12 <Umbire> there's other usenet clients and it's distributed system so
13:12 <Umbire> I'll probably dig around for my own client when the itch arises
13:18 <rebatela> what is it called when you leave bad bones intentionally? griefing? something like that 
13:20 <Umbire> yeah griefing is just generally anything for the express purpose of like, fucking over other players
13:20 <rebatela> oh wow i love how the spoiler gives a few great examples i never have even thought of lol https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Griefing
13:21 <rebatela> i get the scrwed over temple/missing or angry priest quite a bit (like in this game), but i doubt it's usually intentional 
13:22 <rebatela> just a common way to die but it does screw minetown up 
13:22 <Umbire> yeah that's the thing I was about to address, a lot of these can also just happen by accident if you're clueless
13:22 <Umbire> or just plain unlucky
13:23 <rebatela> Digging out every tile of rock and every wall in Minetown, clearing all the stores of loot, and waiting for many monsters to spawn.
13:23 <Umbire> that not so much :B
13:23 <rebatela> lol
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13:24 <Umbire> but yeah, had a string of people's characters eat shit on early water demon bones in NAO the other wek
13:25 <Umbire> week* even
13:28 <Umbire> On rebatela's note of digging out Minetown, I've never tried the whole moat thing that I recall hearing a small handful of people doing
13:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a pair of high boots entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:36273 (9:16:57)
13:29 <rebatela> omg these fucking gifts
13:32 <Umbire> Hey now, your future titan might like 'em :B
13:35 <Umbire> what other pets do you tend towards anyway
13:39 <rebatela> oh shit i forgot about the titan at the castle. i knew there was a reason i stopped 
13:39 <Umbire> lmao
13:39 <Umbire> I know you 
13:39 <rebatela> could really use a marker/wish
13:39 <Umbire> and I mean, titan is just a nice pet period
13:40 <rebatela> yeah and they take care of themselves that's the main thing for me 
13:40 <rebatela> i think they have to eat! but i never notice because you don't have to feed them 
13:40 <rebatela> and they heal themselves, cast reflection (ntm touch of death) 
13:41 <rebatela> like, woolly mamoths are great pets but you have to take care of them 
13:42 <rebatela> feed them, heal them, arm them as best you can 
13:43 <rebatela> titans you need to empty their bags of rocks every now and then and that's about it 
13:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Hum (Kni Dro Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:26846 (8:11:37)
13:51 <Umbire> they're omnivores so yes
14:00 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> god the idea of filling an early level with invisible blue jellies is so funny to meme
14:01 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> *me, not meme
14:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Hob Mal Neu) became Mog's Envoy of Balance, on T:15853 (11:06:39)
14:11 <mobileuser> that was quick...
14:12 <mobileuser> meme works too
14:13 <Noisytoot> I use gnus (the emacs mail/NNTP client) and eternal-september.org to access usenet
14:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Hum (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:28150 (8:41:29)
14:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Hum (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven long sword entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:28203 (8:42:45)
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14:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 20195 points, T:10862, poisoned by a gray fungus
14:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:4133 (0:14:28)
14:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 719 points, T:1497, killed by a rock gnome
15:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law) had a blessed flail entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:7678 (0:32:32)
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15:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1231 points, T:3071, zombified by an orc zombie
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15:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Hob Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:16816 (11:32:07)
15:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1225 points, T:1786, killed by a giant mosquito
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15:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law) destroyed elron's ghost, the former Adept, on T:13874 (1:06:48)
15:37 <AmericanTickler> Hey Ho! merry dol — does long sword to attain Dirge have to be metal?
15:37 <AmericanTickler> seems logical?
15:38 <AmericanTickler> unless the gods transform wood?
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15:41 <mobileuser> good question, let me check...
15:41 <mobileuser> any long sword will do
15:41 <mobileuser> it will get changed to mithril
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15:43 <AmericanTickler> thankfully! finally found an elven long sword. long swords have been oddly rare in this game.
15:45 <AmericanTickler> got gifted a dark elven one, but dammiot if I cannot remember to darken the area. . . <:‑|
15:46 <mobileuser> heh yeah, you really need a cursed magic lamp AmericanTickler
15:47 <mobileuser> Umbire https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Dirge
15:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:14866 (1:18:47)
15:48 <mobileuser> the article and stats talk of poison damage and drain res, but in evilhack it's acid damage and acid res
15:49 <mobileuser> I don't know how to edit because it may be true in other variants
15:51 <Umbire> It IS true in other variants
15:51 <Umbire> just needs way more proper separation, it's been on my list forever
15:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:15203 (1:22:59)
15:55 <AmericanTickler> mobileuser have yet to find any magic lamp at all.  last drow game had 3 but could not get to cursing water. kind of gave up on the character, goofed a lot of stuff up
15:55 <mobileuser> aw, shame that!
15:55 <AmericanTickler> and of course the drow does not leave a corpse .  :-S
15:56 <mobileuser> damn
15:56 <mobileuser> a drow zombie would be great
15:56 <mobileuser> they work for same race sacs
15:57 <AmericanTickler> been lining it up. watch captain elf no pet I have can handle it . . . and trying to not abuse alignment . . . odd that attacking and killing a GUARD as a chaotic would be bad, but yeah. . .
15:58 <AmericanTickler> well, purple worm would, lol.   Burrrrp!
15:58 <mobileuser> heh
15:58 <AmericanTickler> i thought it was any elf that would work
15:58 <mobileuser> hmmm
15:58 <AmericanTickler> not just drow?
15:58 <mobileuser> it should?
15:59 <mobileuser> it's cannibalism to eat elves
15:59 <mobileuser> ^ K2?
16:00 <terrapin> yup elves & drow count as the same race for sacrificing
16:04 <mobileuser> so that should work to get Dirge. But you need to wield the long sword.
16:05 <mobileuser> Actually I think we had a misunderstanding :-)
16:05 <mobileuser> just wanted to point out that zombies can be pretty nice for that purpose
16:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Val Gia Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3641 (0:17:13)
16:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Val Gia Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4001 (0:20:15)
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16:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1107 points, T:3252, killed by a dingo
16:23 <AmericanTickler> mobileuser I thought that was the case (zombies) — I've been playing since 0.3.x, took a break after 0.7.x. I was going to try it anyway. But drow zombie I had in Mines failed to resurrect. Of corpse, right? The ones you _want_ to go away . . .
16:35 <mobileuser> yeah a zombie elf or drow corpse will work for same race sac
16:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 4836 points, T:1541, killed by a water troll, while unconscious from rotten food
16:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 768 points, T:853, killed by the Goblin King, while sleeping off a magical draught
16:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:19766 (2:22:40)
16:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Val Gia Fem Law), 23814 points, T:8869, killed by a warg, while praying
16:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Hum (Kni Dro Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:31209 (11:13:18)
17:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 705 points, T:2216, killed by a pony
17:23 <K2> ugh
17:23 <K2> in chores hell
17:28 <K2> promised mini-me we'd rearrange her room today. moved everything around. now she has a clear line of sight to her bedroom and closet door for casting acid blast
17:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Hob Mal Neu) had a copper long sword entrusted to him by Mog, on T:18123 (12:16:58)
17:33 <K2> nice
17:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Hum (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had Dirge gifted to her by the grace of Lolth, on T:32163 (11:53:50)
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17:36 <K2> AmericanTickler are you Hum?
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17:40 <AmericanTickler> K2 Yes.
17:42 <AmericanTickler> Now that you've added all this crazy stuff, and soon to be even more (!), the monster gen rate needs to upped!
17:42 <AmericanTickler> soooooo many turns wasted trying to learn all this new stuff!   :P
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17:43 <AmericanTickler> edit for content: crazy ^good stuff
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17:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law) had a blessed steel heavy mace entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:22644 (2:49:39)
17:51 <K2> heh
17:51 <K2> thanks AmericanTickler!
17:51 <K2> glad you're enjoying the game
17:52 <K2> if I were increase the monster gen rate any higher than it gets now in the endgame, the torches and pitchforks would come out
17:53 <K2> AmericanTickler if you want to be spoiled - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack - a few of the ppl here have been really good about getting it up to date with current released version (0.8.3)
17:54 <AmericanTickler> no. you mistake me. I meant it should go from 65,000 to like 100,000
17:54 <AmericanTickler> defintely does not need more
17:54 <AmericanTickler> EvilHack really is love/hate
17:54 <AmericanTickler> I like to tinker
17:55 <K2> oh, it's not really based on turncount anymore
17:55 <AmericanTickler> I like, no love, pets (I am odd in that way, so many dislike them)
17:55 <K2> hasnt been for awhile now
17:55 <K2> i dont like starting with pets, they get in my way. but lategame they can be fuuuuun
17:56 <AmericanTickler> has it been completely removed? if so, that is a GREAT sigh of relief.
17:56 <K2> turncount will increase based on events/milestones
17:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Hob Mal Neu) had a chain mail entrusted to him by Mog, on T:18759 (12:34:45)
17:56 <AmericanTickler> I understand the milestones thing
17:56 <AmericanTickler> It makes sense to up the gen rate then.
17:56 <AmericanTickler> Last I knew it was maybe a bit
17:56 <AmericanTickler> ~too! much
17:56 <K2> oh wow this info is not on the wiki page
17:56 <K2> one sec
17:57 <AmericanTickler> I would get t o the stairs after getting the amulet and there would like 15 new monsters at t he  stairs.
17:57 <K2> well yeah that's still a thing, during the ascension run, monsters can spawn at the upstairs
17:57 <K2> not a guarantee, but it can happen
17:58 <K2> however, the ascrun has changed considerably since you last played (I read the discuss from earlier)
17:58 <AmericanTickler> And that makes sense.  I like it. The Wizard sending minions to stop ya. But there are loads and loads
17:59 <AmericanTickler> Took an ADOM break. Coming back after my first successful No Kill (pacifist in NetHack terms) game there
17:59 <AmericanTickler> EvilHack was lurking in the back of my mind.
18:00 <AmericanTickler> (while taking a break)
18:00 <K2> oh nice
18:00 <K2> i've never pulled of a pacifist asc
18:00 <K2> relevent info for when mongen rates go up - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/allmain.c#L260-L280
18:01 <K2> so basically
18:01 <AmericanTickler> I also like hardcore mode in Minecraft and was included in my "breek.". A lot like a roguelike (I know, I know — it is not) . . . but man the similarities are interesting with hardcore mode.
18:01 <AmericanTickler> ^break
18:01 <K2> it goes up 2x when you enter gehennom, or are crowned, or if you start the quest before reaching exp level 14
18:01 <AmericanTickler> Really, really glad to see this.
18:02 <AmericanTickler> To me , it was something that really goofed the fame up, that 65,000 turn thing.
18:02 <K2> then it goes to 3x when entering the first tier demon boss level, 4x on the 3rd tier demon boss level, and 6x when you kill reodney
18:02 <AmericanTickler> Pets waste so many damn turns!  :-D
18:02 <K2> 8x when you perform the invocation
18:02 <K2> 8x is max
18:02 <AmericanTickler> oops fame = game
18:03 <K2> there will be some mongen creep if you hang out for too long, but it's fractional
18:03 <bhaak> exp level 14? really? not 10?
18:03 <AmericanTickler> Yeah, penalty if done early.
18:03 <K2> you can start the quest as early as exp level 10, but if you start it before exp level 14, mongen doubles
18:03 <K2> this can sometimes be a good thing depending on how you look at it
18:03 <bhaak> that's ... obscure
18:04 <AmericanTickler> oh wait.... thought you typo-ed.
18:04 <AmericanTickler> I knew about the early quest thing.
18:05 <AmericanTickler> That and the alignment thing.... I always utterly destroy my alignment
18:05 <K2> heh yeah it can be hard to keep your align abuse score clean
18:05 <K2> but, it's doable. mobileuser has earned that conduct a few times i think
18:06 <K2> ascended without abusing alignment
18:06 <K2> i may have done it once? i need to look
18:06 <mobileuser> 2 times, but it's pretty difficult
18:06 <K2> \o/
18:07 <mobileuser> eg you can get knocked into peaceful monsters
18:07 <K2> AmericanTickler, the ascension run is much shorter now. do not confuse that with it being easier
18:07 <mobileuser> and the banes can easily anger a peaceful monster
18:08 <K2> i need to stop procrastinating and get druid done. my self-imposed deadline is may 1st
18:08 <K2> in typical fashion, there'll be a scramble to finish it a week before may
18:08 <K2> alex, i'll take 'human nature' for 800
18:10 <AmericanTickler> i look forward to druid greatly, if it is done how I think it will be
18:10 <Noisytoot> why does monster generation go up if you accept the quest before XL14 but not after?
18:11 <AmericanTickler> magic, community with nature, natural creatures aiding them
18:11 <mobileuser> a pet hawk named bobo
18:11 <AmericanTickler> introduce . . . the BEAR.
18:13 <K2> yup bear will be a thing
18:14 <K2> grizzly, prob polar bear for the ice queen realm
18:14 <K2> dunno yet
18:14 <AmericanTickler> Druids can tame bears . . . birds would be quite an interesting thing. But pet commands would have to expanded or developed.
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18:14 <AmericanTickler> fun.
18:15 <AmericanTickler> have a bear cave at the beginning of the game, a wide open mine-like layout on the far side of a dungeon level.
18:15 <AmericanTickler> first, the player see bones, corpses, skeletons laying on the ground.
18:16 <AmericanTickler> dead things. . . fish, maybe an adventurer.
18:16 <AmericanTickler> they hear odd "roars!"
18:16 <AmericanTickler> Have a small piles of loot on the other side of the bear, maybe a small prize
18:16 <AmericanTickler> maybe some water
18:17 <AmericanTickler> anyways. . . I get carried away with my ideas , ,. , :)
18:17 <K2> no it's fine
18:17 <AmericanTickler> The ideas are easy (for me). The programming is what needs to be figured out.
18:17 <K2> it sounds like that scene from monty pythons the holy grail
18:17 <K2> the killer rabbit
18:18 <K2> the Rabbit of Caerbannog
18:18 <AmericanTickler> Been a long, long while since I've watched them.
18:18 <AmericanTickler> Been meaning to for some time.
18:18 <K2> i need to introduce that movie to my kid
18:19 <K2> <Noisytoot> why does monster generation go up if you accept the quest before XL14 but not after? <--- because that's the consequences for starting the quest too soon
18:20 <AmericanTickler> There are great benefits to completing the quest (for some classes) if you can, so you are penalized.
18:21 <K2> oh that info is on the wiki, how'd I miss that?
18:21 <K2> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Monster_spawn_rates
18:21 <K2> it needs to be updated
18:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:68477 (12:33:42)
18:22 <Noisytoot> yes, but why that specifically? who's sending all those monsters to you because you started the quest early?
18:23 <AmericanTickler> I greatly enjoy Monty Python. The absurdity is wonderful. But I tend to forget things, for some reason. So, I forget a lot of the episodes and movies. Watching them now would be like watching them for the first time again
18:23 <AmericanTickler> Noisytoot The Wizard is keeping and watchful, yet sleeping?, eye on you!
18:24 <AmericanTickler> I do love the story behind the "horses" in Holy Grail. Practical and hilarious.
18:25 <AmericanTickler> ^an ever watchful, yet sleeping, eye   (I always butcher typing)
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18:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:281 (0:01:36)
18:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 896 points, T:532, killed by Mr. Cire Htims; the shopkeeper, while sleeping
18:39 <Umbire> ab again K2
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19:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1182 points, T:4204, killed by a giant spider
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19:26 <K2> heya Umbire
19:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:928 (0:05:47)
19:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:1031 (0:06:29)
19:32 <Umbire> how's your evening
19:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 3401 points, T:2171, killed by a gnomish wizard
19:45 <K2> finally able to wind down hah
19:46 <K2> gonna update 370-hdf and prob gnollhack later tonight
19:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 4 points, T:74, killed by a water moccasin
19:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:134 (0:01:21)
19:55 <rld> <nabru [@nabrurocks]> Fastest goblin king kill ever?
19:56 <K2> oh damn
19:56 <K2> yeah that is fast
19:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 3034 points, T:786, burned by a fireball
19:58 <K2> !lastgame
19:58 <Hecubus> K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mitsilvan/evilhack/dumplog/1709513458.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/l/leafG/evilhack/dumplog/1709419086.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/parasite/evilhack/dumplog/1709484173.evil.html
20:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:922 (0:05:15)
20:09 <Umbire> I've seen subminute ones
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21:04 -!- tungsten.libera.chat changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.8.3 available for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack ¤ https://redd.it/16izu25
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21:06 <Umbire> uh oh
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21:06 <Umbire> there you are
21:09 <K2> patching servers
21:09 <K2> made znc and the channel bots restart
21:11 <Umbire> ah
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21:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law) had a blessed steel war hammer entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:27504 (3:05:39)
21:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law) had a blessed helm of brilliance entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:33133 (3:20:09)
21:31 <K2> nice
21:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Lugh, on T:33921 (3:24:14)
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21:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Pri Hob Fem Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:35401 (3:35:44)
21:55 <K2> gnite all
21:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had a splint mail entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:1046 (0:08:15)
22:02 <Umbire> night
22:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Kni Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fireproof fixed greased Bag of the Hesperides", on T:1113 (0:14:46)
22:09 <Umbire> ^lacks critical information
22:15 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> That is sad
22:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:6512 (2:08:47)
22:17 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> also wow that’s a REALLY fast gk kill by mitsilvan
22:18 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> probably the fastest by turn count ever
22:19 <Umbire> what're the odds this leaves another bones with a BoH containing half the dungeon
22:19 <Umbire> I'm still a little pissed over that older one in healer quest
22:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had a pair of levitation boots entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:3837 (0:31:05)
22:20 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> heh Janis does tend to carry around a bunch of stuff that is straight up useless
22:20 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggersviii]> manages to be stressed with a bag of holding somehow
22:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had an Uruk-hai shield entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:4695 (0:38:40)
22:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had an orcish long sword entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:6100 (0:51:41)
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22:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:7225 (2:40:12)
22:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:6851 (0:59:54)
22:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Kni Orc Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:6860 (1:00:24)
23:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Kni Orc Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:9003 (1:22:16)
23:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Kni Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (locusts), on T:9171 (1:23:59)
23:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] knnn (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 813 points, T:1370, killed by a rock gnome
23:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Kni Orc Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:9613 (1:31:11)
23:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 2718 points, T:2449, killed by a fall onto poison spikes
23:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:297 (0:02:26)
23:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 3005 points, T:1447, killed by a giant spider, while praying